SRL Archive - RuneScape News and General

As the title suggests, PowerBot will/may be updating very soon.
As many of you know they have delayed the deadline for months, however;
contributors and V.I.Ps claim they had access to the beta version of it during the last couple of days.
A couple of minutes ago an announcement was posted, stating they are getting their hands on the last technical difficulties. The bot itself is claimed to be fully functional.

It seems as if a major amount of people will be masscreating new accounts and start claiming f2p worlds again. Any thoughts?

In my honest opinion, I do think JaGeX has expected this and has another so called "bot-nuke" ready for whenever the release will be.

Discuss.

But how will they avoid the legal side of it? It's possible for a company like Jagex to go out of their own country and have you detained for copyright infringement.

From: RISK
But how will they avoid the legal side of it? It's possible for a company like Jagex to go out of their own country and have you detained for copyright infringement.

I do not see the difference compared to the last years. PowerBot and many other bot company's have been sue-ed. It might also be a smart move for bot companies to move over to countries like Sweden, in order to bypass these copyright laws.

The difference is that if you deobfuscate the Runescape client (Like what Powerbot and Nexus do), you are infringing copyright that is owned by Jagex as their intellectual property. You can't evade it anymore.

At least, that's what I've been reading.

From: RISK
The difference is that if you deobfuscate the Runescape client (Like what Powerbot and Nexus do), you are infringing copyright that is owned by Jagex as their intellectual property. You can't evade it anymore.

At least, that's what I've been reading.

You might be right. Honestly, I don't have a clue. I'm not quite into laws and the way they work. Still, the laws have not changed since PowerBot have exicted. Yet, PowerBot is still up and running (well not at the moment, but soon they will).

Maybe powerbot made an OGL bot or they are stupid enough to bring out another reflection bot. I don't think they will be back up. At first they said they won't face any legal issues, but now they also said they are working on some legal issues…

Eh, however they do it, if they do it, I'll be joining and creating scripts for it. Just for some monetary gain to put away towards my college education fund.

If you have a good eye, you'll notice that the video they uploaded last week was actually filmed on 22th July last year. I highly doubt it'll be released within the next month, if ever.

From: Richard
If you have a good eye, you'll notice that the video they uploaded last week was actually filmed on 22th July last year. I highly doubt it'll be released within the next month, if ever.

I've seen that, probably just another move of PB to fool people…

From: okokokok
Maybe powerbot made an OGL bot or they are stupid enough to bring out another reflection bot. I don't think they will be back up. At first they said they won't face any legal issues, but now they also said they are working on some legal issues…

I don't really get your point. Why are they stupid at all? It's not like they have not thought about legal actions taken against them. It's not like the bot came out of nothing. It is a well thought-through process. Even though I hate the administration and the attitude of the site, the work they produce is admirable.

From: blabla7
I don't really get your point. Why are they stupid at all? It's not like they have not thought about legal actions taken against them. It's not like the bot came out of nothing. It is a well thought-through process. Even though I hate the administration and the attitude of the site, the work they produce is admirable.

Bringing out a reflection bot equals a lawsuit they will not win.

From: okokokok
I've seen that, probably just another move of PB to fool people…

I have seen that, however. Why would the video have to be recent? They never claimed the bot to be working while posting the video. That has only been done today, the expected release date. I highly doubt the bot working, but you got to look at the other site. When releasing a good injecting bot, you're website will attract a lot of (new) users. Therefore it is usefull to have a setup video at the frontpage of your website. If the interface of your bot has not changed, there is no need to create a new video.

They claim that the bot is already working, as they ran multiple scripts for a period of over 48 hours.

That now have to wait till legal issues are solved so they can release the client to the public.

Let's try not to be hostile. :x

From: RISK
Let's try not to be hostile. :x

What are you referring to?
I've not seen any hostile behaviour in this thread.

From: blabla7
I have seen that, however. Why would the video have to be recent? They never claimed the bot to be working while posting the video. That has only been done today, the expected release date. I highly doubt the bot working, but you got to look at the other site. When releasing a good injecting bot, you're website will attract a lot of (new) users. Therefore it is usefull to have a setup video at the frontpage of your website. If the interface of your bot has not changed, there is no need to create a new video.

Ofcourse it doesn't have to be recent, but it is suspicious.

From: RISK
Let's try not to be hostile. :x

We are not hostile, but we are just discussing what we think will happen or is going on :)

If they come back, I'd be suprised, won't be too suprised if there is another setback. ;P

If they do come back, all I can say is good luck and good bye leechers. I honestly hope they don't come back.

From: Kyle Undefined
If they do come back, all I can say is good luck and good bye leechers. I honestly hope they don't come back.

So do I. PowerBot updating might even be good for us. Might get the focus of JaGeX off of us, because PowerBot is way bigger. Therefore they will have less time creating updates which will set srl back.

I'm looking at it from the legit side of playing RS. Powerbot totally ruined the game.

From: Kyle Undefined
I'm looking at it from the legit side of playing RS. Powerbot totally ruined the game.

True that, but if powerbot does not update; It will only be a matter of time before everyone will start using srl or RiD.

From: blabla7
True that, but if powerbot does not update; It will only be a matter of time before everyone will start using srl or RiD.

Probably RiD, because leacher don't want to put effort in figuring out how SRL works.

SRL is "too hard" for people to use apparently, so they will go with RiD. I don't care, since I don't want those type of people here in the first place.

SRL isn't as hard to set up as it used to be a couple of years ago.
I remember using subversion and moving plugins, it was a pain in the ass.

Simba is way easier than scar. You can just enable the updaters in the extensions menu and update everything. You hit start MSI and a lot of scripts are useable. It's just a tiny bit harder than rsbot…

It would be interesting to see a Java bot go up again. I'm mainly interested in how long they can stay up though.

If they come back I will PPos shit out of their site. Just because I hate what they do. Damn greedy bastards taking small ones moneys.

~Angry Home

Lol Home, calm down :D

/offtopic I still need to give you your money.

From: Kyle Undefined
Lol Home, calm down :D

/offtopic I still need to give you your money.

No rush. Take your time :)


~Home

From: Home
If they come back I will DDos shit out of their site. Just because I hate what they do. Damn greedy bastards taking small ones moneys.

~Angry Home

Super Home to the rescue.

From: Kyle Undefined

If they do come back, all I can say is good luck and good bye leechers. I honestly hope they don't come back.

:thumbsup:


Anywho, I'm not gonna hold my breath. I think if anyone's really curious about it, you could drop (Name Removed) a line. He's tied in with Powerbot last I heard. He's probably a good source to cite.

From: RISK
The difference is that if you deobfuscate the Runescape client (Like what Powerbot and Nexus do), you are infringing copyright that is owned by Jagex as their intellectual property. You can't evade it anymore.

At least, that's what I've been reading.

I don't think either of those bots deobfuscate the client, but their developers may do so to understand how it works. What would be illegal, as far as I know, is circumventing the encryption that protects the client. However, the loader will decrypt the client for you, and I'm not too sure of the legality surrounding access to the client after that point.

Anyway, I'd rather wait and see what happens than speculate about the chances that the bot will be updated.

All I got to say if they go back up Timer must be amazing, along with the help th other devs

From: Scaper
All I got to say if they go back up Timer must be amazing, along with the help th other devs

I heard they got the majority of their hooks after (Name Removed) supplied them with, if I remember correctly, a deobfuscated client. If my memory serves me well.

From: Flight
I heard they got the majority of their hooks after PyroRyan supplied them with, if I remember correctly, a deobfuscated client. If my memory serves me well.

So basicly they didn't pull it off alone and they are not as powerfull as they claim to be. They could not have done it without PyroRyan (at least not this fast).

From: blabla7
So basicly they didn't pull it off alone and they are not as powerfull as they claim to be. They could not have done it without PyroRyan (at least not this fast).

True, but Pyro is no more in anything what is related to Rs botting.

~Home

I want to see how long it will last, Jagex claims they have multiple clusterflutters ready to use. (I imagine this is a bluff, like how we bluffed the amount of Abombs we had when we bombed japan)

This will be interesting, regardless I am staying here.

I'm interested in how Paris intends to bypass the laws surrounding AES. Apparently, he has a solution.

From: RISK
The difference is that if you deobfuscate the Runescape client (Like what Powerbot and Nexus do), you are infringing copyright that is owned by Jagex as their intellectual property. You can't evade it anymore.

At least, that's what I've been reading.

Its the laws surrounding AES, not deobfuscation, that are causing legal concern. Deobfuscation has been done for a rather long time without issue.

From: okokokok
Bringing out a reflection bot equals a lawsuit they will not win.

Exactly my thoughts.

From: R4nd0m
I want to see how long it will last, Jagex claims they have multiple clusterflutters ready to use. (I imagine this is a bluff, like how we bluffed the amount of Abombs we had when we bombed japan)

This will be interesting, regardless I am staying here.

Obfuscators sure, but cluster flutterers just convert instances to Object[]s. I don't think there is much more that could be done with cluster flutterers. They did update their obfuscation recently so we'll see if they have more.

Powerbot is owned by gold4rs I believe they have locations in china or i believe might be wrong but i think it's china anyways china doesn't believe in copyright laws aslong as you pay up as far as I know.

Personally I don't see the definate return of rsbot you might ask me why?
Well simply becouse the price of buying rsgold has been going up so those people don't expect powerbot to be back and they should know that becouse if they didn't they would lost alot of cash.

Also jagex and bluffing? personally they haven't bluffed alot regarding reflection becouse they simply don't alow it anymore you can say like oh they don't allow idc but they do own the game so bringing in an update will only be a matter of time if reflection comes back.

From: Richard
If you have a good eye, you'll notice that the video they uploaded last week was actually filmed on 22th July last year. I highly doubt it'll be released within the next month, if ever.

It's an old tutorial. It has nothing to do with the new bot they're releasing -.-

In US they are breaking DMCA (by decrypting the client), but outside of it? Doubt it.
If they get back up, they will get a tremendous amount of respect from me, but take my word: Jagex will try to crack them down quick.

From: Markus
In US they are breaking DMCA (by decrypting the client), but outside of it? Doubt it.
If they get back up, they will get a tremendous amount of respect from me, but take my word: Jagex will try to crack them down quick.

Personally jagex if they want to they can if they got no more updates against powerbot they can close down the game everytime powerbot updates and wait till they got a anti bot update this far they can go.

The only thing powerbot is updating is their stealthbot integration into the bot. Have fun getting hacked. Never trust those morons over there, honestly.

From: XxX Toxin XxX
The only thing powerbot is updating is their stealthbot integration into the bot. Have fun getting hacked. Never trust those morons over there, honestly.

Honestly, I trust them 125% I used to bot on my main account got 5 99's because of RSBot but then I quittet because it was getting boring to see everyone just bot.

From: andreasx22
Honestly, I trust them 125% I used to bot on my main account got 5 99's because of RSBot but then I quittet because it was getting boring to see everyone just bot.

That doesn't mean a single thing that your account slipped by. Mine did too, and I actually was a fairly frequent user of pb for an army of miners, lol. Those all got killed though after all the bs happened. I honestly wouldn't trust them at all one bit. Partnering up with companies and websites such as rsgold4life, which is now gold4fun only makes them more sketchier. The fact that you can't even go to them and 'trust' them with making a purchase anymore is pathetic in my eyes. Anyway, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

From: XxX Toxin XxX
That doesn't mean a single thing that your account slipped by. Mine did too, and I actually was a fairly frequent user of pb for an army of miners, lol. Those all got killed though after all the bs happened. I honestly wouldn't trust them at all one bit. Partnering up with companies and websites such as rsgold4life, which is now gold4fun only makes them more sketchier. The fact that you can't even go to them and 'trust' them with making a purchase anymore is pathetic in my eyes. Anyway, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

I won't ever purchase ANYTHING from them, I only use their free bots :).

From: XxX Toxin XxX
That doesn't mean a single thing that your account slipped by. Mine did too, and I actually was a fairly frequent user of pb for an army of miners, lol. Those all got killed though after all the bs happened. I honestly wouldn't trust them at all one bit. Partnering up with companies and websites such as rsgold4life, which is now gold4fun only makes them more sketchier. The fact that you can't even go to them and 'trust' them with making a purchase anymore is pathetic in my eyes. Anyway, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Not much of a partnering I believe as gold4fun owns powerbot as far as I know.

From: jordi1104
Not much of a partnering I believe as gold4fun owns powerbot as far as I know.

Prior to the ownership of one another they were singlely proprietorship'ed as individuals. It was only later then that they formed into one. Just saying, don't get too excited, lol.

From: XxX Toxin XxX
Prior to the ownership of one another they were singlely proprietorship'ed as individuals. It was only later then that they formed into one. Just saying, don't get too excited, lol.

Meh I really hope injection won't come back for another month or more since things are so stable right now everyone got used to rs the way it is atm and the way it should be….

After all the mass hacking and developers adding stuff to block people from using rsbuddy I would not touch the bot with a ten-foot pole.

From: weequ
After all the mass hacking and developers adding stuff to block people from using rsbuddy I would not touch the bot with a ten-foot pole.

My point exactly. Creating FUD viruses no days is fairly simple, especially with the ability to just buy a freakin' FUD crypter, it almost takes zero work (emphasizing on the almost, person dependent).

As for I know we don't have acces to a beta version..

I hope runescape isn't ruined again like before…

I hope PB never comes back, worst place ever. It's like:
Lechers: Moths
PB: Light.

If PB gets revived chaos will happen.

PB should never be revived. It was a plague on the RS community, much worse than most bot sources.

^ completely agree. When u can just hit add or delete script from a website its gone to far.

I extremely doubt they would ever come back.

The reason they say a release is imminent, is to continue attract users to come to their site is for increased revenue, either from Gold4rs or the ads they run.

I would like to see it come back, but after playing legit post bot nuke I have mixed feelings about it.

From: caterham20
I would like to see it come back, but after playing legit post bot nuke I have mixed feelings about it.

Powebot won't return, they just say it to still get money. If they were going to return they would have a tets version for vips or something like this.

And I also prefer that they don't return or runescape will be ruined again.

Powerbot has many goldfarmers and nerds :/

With the optimus algorithm they will be back where they started in October.

Powerbot won't be the big community they once were.

The community is great, but the bot is terrible. In my opinion I hope powerbot becomes a runescape fansite and actually do good for once.

From: yep
The community is great, but the bot is terrible. In my opinion I hope powerbot becomes a runescape fansite and actually do good for once.

I don't know, but i really don't like the community lol. It is full of leechers and people who think they know things better then everybody else.

From: okokokok
I don't know, but i really don't like the community lol. It is full of leechers and people who think they know things better then everybody else.

It is but what's a community without idiots? It's no fun, if everyone was serious then it'd get boring.

i say, that they are experiencing alot of issues with the bot, as JaGex will probably have another "nuke-bot" as soon as its released, and yet they will have another fail but, none of this will happen unless PowerBot actually releases something, i mean, the releasing vid of it working, is from a while back, no money pouch, i think they are trying to get it running, they may have suceeded, but it may be a private bot for the creators, i highly doubt, anyone should wait for PowerBots lies, Everyone should sync with Simba/Villavu, as when they say their updating so n' so, Their UPDATING. and i don't think many people has been caught, with the Color Bots.

From: Wizzup?
It would be interesting to see a Java bot go up again. I'm mainly interested in how long they can stay up though.

Not very long.

/offtopic Will Optimus affect Simba?

From: KeepBotting
Not very long.

/offtopic Will Optimus affect Simba?

Has anything they've done before majorly affected Simba? ^^

I think Optimus is this new system where the screen is black for around 2ms every game tick (0.6 seconds), so it could do.

I think this won't have success, but who knows :p

pb wont return.

but Bot wont bank anything, he mines and drops, and repeats.
Don't know if it's due to update or i need to bank myself, help?

inb4 :google:

Hopefully it doesn't come back.
Now i can use simba, and bot anywhere without having tons of botters around me.
And, the price of items are going high.

But, its possible that they'll be back.

I'm not one to envy or hate.. so I'd like to see it come back.. Just actually wanna see the code behind it really as I'm usually intrigued by just code.. Also wanna see how it works and how they got around the legal crap and stuff. Plus I wanna see timer's work on it since he actually started here first.. Other than that.. meh i couldn't care less.. Paris is obv just in it for money.. nothing else.. that's why he doesn't restrict usage or do anything about leechers.

From: Richard
I think Optimus is this new system where the screen is black for around 2ms every game tick (0.6 seconds), so it could do.

What? Whered you hear that?

From: Richard
I think Optimus is this new system where the screen is black for around 2ms every game tick (0.6 seconds), so it could do.

1. That's not gonna in no way stop us. Slow us, yes.

2. That WILL annoy legits.

I thought powerbot was already taken down for legal issues and that they were one of the people that would be fined $1,000,000+ if they brought it back?

It's imitating Rsbuddy :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QdOQ8t6HhSE

and they have still this link too lol

Download RSBot and get started in seconds

more like 5 months with alot of wishful thinking

From: noidea
What? Whered you hear that?

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73905

From: kingarabian
1. That's not gonna in no way stop us. Slow us, yes.

2. That WILL annoy legits.

It clearly has no affect as far as I've seen. It might not even be intentional, just bad coding.

From: dakotist
I thought powerbot was already taken down for legal issues and that they were one of the people that would be fined $1,000,000+ if they brought it back?

You're mistaking for Impsoft, the creators of reflection bots.

From: Richard
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73905



It clearly has no affect as far as I've seen. It might not even be intentional, just bad coding.

I agree.

But it may be the reason why colors are changing at a faster rate? (at least for me)

powerbot is dead, its time to be burried, but the users there are too stupid to see it

I'm new to this community, and I can say that Simba/MSI is amazing in the way that it was the ONLY major platform to survive the Botnuke. It's simplicity (as compared to other bots) was key to it's survival, as were it's dedicated scripters and devs (btw, thanks guys). However, it isn't flawless, and if Powerbot is truly back I'd be happy to see it. The odds are that they're bluffing to stall it's leeches, but if they're online I'll definitely need to check it out. I hope they're not pulling an RSBuddy and lying it off to troll users.

trololololololololol lets go work for fagex okie?

From: blabla7
As the title suggests, PowerBot will/may be updating very soon.
As many of you know they have delayed the deadline for months, however;
contributors and V.I.Ps claim they had access to the beta version of it during the last couple of days.
A couple of minutes ago an announcement was posted, stating they are getting their hands on the last technical difficulties. The bot itself is claimed to be fully functional.

It seems as if a major amount of people will be masscreating new accounts and start claiming f2p worlds again. Any thoughts?

In my honest opinion, I do think JaGeX has expected this and has another so called "bot-nuke" ready for whenever the release will be.

Discuss.

False.

I'm a VIP and trust me no BETA Version has been released. powerbot won't be releasing their bot anytime soon, so don't wait on it. :)

Jagex has won the law suit and i don't think powerbot will be releasing the client out

From: blabla7
I do not see the difference compared to the last years. PowerBot and many other bot company's have been sue-ed. It might also be a smart move for bot companies to move over to countries like Sweden, in order to bypass these copyright laws.

It doesnt matter what country you are in, it's international. You cant just break JAGEX's TOS and get away with it because your country dosnt have any internet copyright infringe laws.

From: exilednoob
It doesnt matter what country you are in, it's international. You cant just break JAGEX's TOS and get away with it because your country dosnt have any internet copyright infringe laws.

Just to clear some things:
Breaking TOS is not illegal. But reflection (or in this case BCEL Injectionbots) uses Jagex compyrighted material which is illegal. And also if you live in china its a lower chance of getting sued cuz i dont think chienses care that much.