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As suggested from other members, why not close SRL registration for a little bit?
Close registration until we can:
- Have SRL 5 ready
- Advance MSI a bit more
- Fix bugs
- Advance Simba a bit more
- Fix up the forums to aid new comers easier
- More scripts available

Just a suggestion :).

I don't really see a point in closing it off, that would just discourage many potential new members. What we can do is make some quick changes to make new members feel more at ease here, such as create new updated tutorials and more color scripts for them to use.

We need a clear link to a download tutorial on the main page. Too many people are asking how to install everything correctly, instead of looking around for it instead.

From: DeSnob
We need a clear link to a download tutorial on the main page. Too many people are asking how to install everything correctly, instead of looking around for it instead.

I just made a thread, hopefully more will check that out. Anywho, sorry kingarabian, but I'm not for this idea.

From: DeSnob
We need a clear link to a download tutorial on the main page. Too many people are asking how to install everything correctly, instead of looking around for it instead.

That is inevitable. A leech is a leech, they are not looking to put any effort into anything. Simply refer them to tutorials, try to help them out, and hope for the best. That's the price you pay for a populated community.

From: NCDS
That is inevitable. A leech is a leech, they are not looking to put any effort into anything. Simply refer them to tutorials, try to help them out, and hope for the best. That's the price you pay for a populated community.

I'm still wondering why the SRL Junior Members script section was removed. I'd rather have users either get SRL Members or wait the 6 months instead of leeching completely. As Flight has added before, we aren't here entirely to bot, we are mainly for scripting. Why feed the useless users more scripts? It's not like they will entirely benefit the community. Someone should post the list of color scripts offered in SRL Members to get more people to apply.

Or just leave registration open, and the developers can keep on working on the things until they are ready to be released.

If you were going to join SRL only to find out registrations were closed, you would most likely try and find another runescape macro website, amirite? I doubt they are going to check the page everyday and wait until registrations are open.

From: DeSnob
I'm still wondering why the SRL Junior Members script section was removed. I'd rather have users either get SRL Members or wait the 6 months instead of leeching completely. As Flight has added before, we aren't here entirely to bot, we are mainly for scripting. Why feed the useless users more scripts? It's not like they will entirely benefit the community. Someone should post the list of color scripts offered in SRL Members to get more people to apply.

We will most likely be re-introducing members scripts to MSI. We are doing what we can, but that's only so much. I wouldn't be surprised if the jr. members script section is re-added before too long.

From: DeSnob
I'm still wondering why the SRL Junior Members script section was removed. I'd rather have users either get SRL Members or wait the 6 months instead of leeching completely. As Flight has added before, we aren't here entirely to bot, we are mainly for scripting. Why feed the useless users more scripts? It's not like they will entirely benefit the community. Someone should post the list of color scripts offered in SRL Members to get more people to apply.

Hopefully, by feeding them scripts, they will want to create one themself. That is what happened to me. When I found SRL, my only intentions were to bot and leech. I was intrigued by the challenge of scripting, and I've come to love the eurika moment of figuring out an error in your script after staring at it for hours.

Sure, some will always be leechers, but that is inevitable. What we can hope for is that some will accept the challenge of scripting and grow through experience.

From: PatDuffy
Hopefully, by feeding them scripts, they will want to create one themself. That is what happened to me. When I found SRL, my only intentions were to bot and leech. I was intrigued by the challenge of scripting, and I've come to love the eurika moment of figuring out an error in your script after staring at it for hours.

Heeh same here, and look where I am how. :rolleyes:

And where I am now ;) But at least I can be honest about not asking any questions (not even non-stupid) until I was SRL member.
Just keep them open for now, them people aren't hurting us atm

From: Markus
And where I am now ;) But at least I can be honest about not asking any questions (not even non-stupid) until I was SRL member.
Just keep them open for now, them people aren't hurting us atm

Hheh I honestly don't know if I can say the same. :p

I've always been the type of person to learn from example work. If I was able to modify an already working script then I could learn from that to see how it worked and why it was coded the way it was. If I had problems then I would check out some of the tutorials, just for further help/answers.

If I couldn't find an answer even then, then I'd make a question here on the forums with not much hope of it getting answered, but to my surprise I had some high-ranked members just come right out and give me detailed suggest. I wasn't even a Jr. member! This is the point at which I gained ALOT of respect for the community.

We don't have many color scripts right now, it would surely be a bad time to limit which of those are available to only a select group. I say release all you can, give people the chance to learn.

The only reason why I'm an SRL-Member is because of curiosity. I first came to SRL to run bots so I can level up while I was away. Then, I wanted the challenge of scripting.

Don't close out others who are looking for that challenge.

From: Flight
I've always been the type of person to learn from example work. If I was able to modify an already working script then I could learn from that to see how it worked and why it was coded the way it was. If I had problems then I would check out some of the tutorials, just for further help/answers.

If I couldn't find an answer even then, then I'd make a question here on the forums with not much hope of it getting answered, but to my surprise I had some high-ranked members just come right out and give me detailed suggest. I wasn't even a Jr. member! This is the point at which I gained ALOT of respect for the community.

We don't have many color scripts right now, it would surely be a bad time to limit which of those are available to only a select group. I say release all you can, give people the chance to learn.

Same here. I always look at what others have coded first to get an idea on what to do. If I still need more help I go straight to tutorial island or ask someone on Msn.

I mainly make private scripts for my own use, but as soon as exams are finished I'm jumping onto the MSI scene. Have a lot of ideas. :)

From: Flight
I've always been the type of person to learn from example work. If I was able to modify an already working script then I could learn from that to see how it worked and why it was coded the way it was. If I had problems then I would check out some of the tutorials, just for further help/answers.

If I couldn't find an answer even then, then I'd make a question here on the forums with not much hope of it getting answered, but to my surprise I had some high-ranked members just come right out and give me detailed suggest. I wasn't even a Jr. member! This is the point at which I gained ALOT of respect for the community.

We don't have many color scripts right now, it would surely be a bad time to limit which of those are available to only a select group. I say release all you can, give people the chance to learn.

+1 I will try get some spare time and convert some of my scripts to color :)


~Home

No to closing!

But SRL5 isn't that far off.. I just need time to help :(

From: Nava2
No to closing!

But SRL5 isn't that far off.. I just need time to help :(

A lot of times I only put in ~10 mins worth of work, then just commit that until I have more time. It's better than nothing :rolleyes:

Closing the forums now, why exactly?

We already have quite some working scripts and now that people are coming here, a lot is happening. Why would you want to stop that advancement? We can use all the extra users.

From: PatDuffy
Hopefully, by feeding them scripts, they will want to create one themself. That is what happened to me. When I found SRL, my only intentions were to bot and leech. I was intrigued by the challenge of scripting, and I've come to love the eurika moment of figuring out an error in your script after staring at it for hours.

This, exactly happened to me as well :)…

About the thread, no i'd like to see more new talented scripters.

Might be some scripters from rsbuddy who want to join here to continue their great work.
But we have to stay small to not be ddossed or something by jagex likewised happend to powerbot.

Despite it being contrary to the SRL philosophy, this is a way to earn a few bucks, paid registrations.

From: Dervish
Despite it being contrary to the SRL philosophy, this is a way to earn a few bucks, paid registrations.

Certainly not.

From: NCDS
Certainly not.

Paid scripts (yes i know about the leaking problem).

From: Dervish
Paid scripts (yes i know about the leaking problem).

You know what would be the best? The use of Wizzup's server to save script code on the servers, like RSBuddy did. :) And then, possibly have pay scripts.

Sorry an absolutely no to pay scripts. Were not here for a business. Primarily here to learn and contribute.

@Wizzup and everyone else:
I just thought since there are so much players coming to us now, we should close up for a week and take the time to fix up some things and reorganize.

I honestly believe rsbuddy will not be the last community to close down… and this means more users coming to SRL. Don't get me wrong guys I love this influx of massive amounts of users flocking to SRL and I'm really happy.

If you're worried about stuff not working, try to fix them (such as some stuff in MSI not working properly). That's the main issue (you help newbies quite a bit I've seen). Closing down regs for a bit won't help, and will just hurt us in the end.

i can sort of agree to closing or at least making it harder to get in for people who will just use scripts but not make any. we should allow people who want to script in but keep the leechers out.

From: kingarabian
@Wizzup and everyone else:
I just thought since there are so much players coming to us now, we should close up for a week and take the time to fix up some things and reorganize

This was my first thought:

From: Harry
If you're worried about stuff not working, try to fix them (such as some stuff in MSI not working properly). That's the main issue (you help newbies quite a bit I've seen).

:)

From: mika
i can sort of agree to closing or at least making it harder to get in for people who will just use scripts but not make any. we should allow people who want to script in but keep the leechers out.

I don't think you read the thread. People that came here to leech are now talented scripters and high ranking staff. We want everybody that we can and hope for some to learn to script :). That is how SRL works.

From: Harry
If you're worried about stuff not working, try to fix them (such as some stuff in MSI not working properly). That's the main issue (you help newbies quite a bit I've seen). Closing down regs for a bit won't help, and will just hurt us in the end.

Not really worried about things not working I'm sure they'll be fixed in time. I was thinking if were going to have a lot more members coming in at once we will need to reorganize the forums a bit to lessen the spam load and be more new user friendly.

But it's not a done deal yet, because those communities won't neccessarly shutdown and not much users will come here yet…

Don't close off registration

Relevant © Hobbit

Well okay close the thread :). The only thing important for me is for this community to strive.

From: Sex
I don't think you read the thread. People that came here to leech are now talented scripters and high ranking staff. We want everybody that we can and hope for some to learn to script :). That is how SRL works.

This ^

If people join while things are kinda broke, I see only people wanting to help fix it and wanting to further develop it to work, will stay, no ?

From: Markus
Relevant © Hobbit

Well true but it seems to me that a large percentage of these posts are "make dis script I need it plz" -requests or "this not work too hard" -posts.

That's activity, yes, but does not give a lot to the community.

I am doing my best to create some color scripts for their use. It would be nice if some of them read at least one tutorial before they PM'ed me about a user error on some of my scripts. I would be open to the idea that you must make x amounts of posts before you may download a script, to prevent leeches.

I vouch to clean the forums. Takes me forever to find anything and the search function has a brain the size of a peanut.

Even though I am still considered new here, I feel as though I am growing on the community (I love this community its not centered around "Runescape botting" but rather the learning aspect and the friendliness you would not generally expect from a RS related site)

Like in Rsbuddy every other post has someone swearing, complaining, being of no use to the community but here it is different everyone who posts (At least the members who post often) 99% are helpful/kind which is great!

Pay Scripts = No
It completely devalues this community, donations should be allowed if you really liked the script go for it donate! :p

Closing makes us more exclusive which I suppose would be nice makes people more interested in joining (Perhaps an activity monitor, keep active = keep using scripts) Something of the sort.. not sure.

For now I say Stay Open, although the majority of new users are leachers we are getting a few solid members here and there but then again I am new I don't know what everyone bases "solid" on :P

I haven't been a member here that long so I don't know whether or whether not my opinion will be heard. I have been seeing an large use of MSI from this website by numerous bots and it makes me nervous that Jagex will become more aware and work harder towards removal of color bots. Closed registration may be bad and kill off new comers but what if this site used Demonoids methods of registration. Its closed but will open every couple of months for registration on a random cycle, also you can get in by referral by existing members who are old and respected enough.

/inb4beingcalledaleachandaskedwhyimtalking

From: Dosbag
/inb4beingcalledaleachandaskedwhyimtalking

You don't have to worry about that here, we're a good community :)

On topic: They can try to stop up, but never will ;)

From: Camo Developer
You don't have to worry about that here, we're a good community :)

I'm glad for that.

There are going to be the users who want to associate with the forum and contribute and then there are the people who want the pure profit, maybe they run websites or whatever else. I just feel that the open to everyone attitude will ruin this community eventually. Generosity and openness like this usually does not go well on the internet.

Also, how far fetched would a log in process be for MSI that requires you enter your forum name and password be?

From: Dosbag
I'm glad for that.

There are going to be the users who want to associate with the forum and contribute and then there are the people who want the pure profit, maybe they run websites or whatever else. I just feel that the open to everyone attitude will ruin this community eventually. Generosity and openness like this usually does not go well on the internet.

The thing is though if you really want the best scripts you need to be a contributing member to the community. (SRL member) so there is a good check and balance system in place.

From: Dosbag
I'm glad for that.

There are going to be the users who want to associate with the forum and contribute and then there are the people who want the pure profit, maybe they run websites or whatever else. I just feel that the open to everyone attitude will ruin this community eventually. Generosity and openness like this usually does not go well on the internet.

Also, how far fetched would a log in process be for MSI that requires you enter your forum name and password be?

I really don't see the point of making them enter their forum credentials.

From: Camo Developer
I really don't see the point of making them enter their forum credentials.

So when someone mirrors the installer on another website and some joe smoe gets to download it from rapidshare they wont be able to use it.

But it's free, I could understand if it was a paid software…

From: Camo Developer
But it's free, I could understand if it was a paid software…

But its based around this community, there will be people who have no interest in this community and who only want to use these scripts. A login would filter them out along with more restrictive registration and leave us with mainly people who want to be a part of the community.

You may not agree with what I'm saying but I hope you can see the point I'm trying to make.

I see the point you're making, but making them sign up will do nothing to get them interested in the community. They'll just sign up, and never return, then they would pass their login around so others won't have to sign up.

From: Camo Developer
I see the point you're making, but making them sign up will do nothing to get them interested in the community. They'll just sign up, and never return, then they would pass their login around so others won't have to sign up.

That would happen but doing what I suggested earlier and making registration closed and open on a cycle and by referral, the amount of people doing it would be lower than if it were open.

From: NCDS
Certainly not.

^^ this.

From: DeSnob
You know what would be the best? The use of Wizzup's server to save script code on the servers, like RSBuddy did. :) And then, possibly have pay scripts.

We don't sell scripts here because we are free and open. We aren't/don't want to be RSBuddy.

As a new member it was pritty hard to find all the stuff.
Finding how to install was a bit searching but the forum should have a button where it says download instead of going to the other website where you have to search the word installer.

From: NexPB
As a new member it was pritty hard to find all the stuff.
Finding how to install was a bit searching but the forum should have a button where it says download instead of going to the other website where you have to search the word installer.

I feel like the big button in the forums leading to a guide on how to exactly install and setup Simba is simple enough….

Also, do not make any scripts pay to use. Jagex will try and shut us down then, because we are making profit from their game.

From: Silent SPY
I feel like the big button in the forums leading to a guide on how to exactly install and setup Simba is simple enough….

I disagree. Installing Simba is the easy part. It is actually running scripts that had me stumped right at first. I actually have a list of tutorials in order that helped me learn. I still check them. I think they should go on the front page.

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58935
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19162
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=372
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47374

From: Grihmm
I disagree. Installing Simba is the easy part. It is actually running scripts that had me stumped right at first. I actually have a list of tutorials in order that helped me learn. I still check them. I think they should go on the front page.

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58935
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19162
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=372
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47374

He wasn't talking about scripts though :redface:, he was talking about Simba. I may make another video tutorial on the basics of using SRL scripts… Will be next week before I can though…

I actually read the whole thread and,

I think we should just leave it for the moment and let it unfold. We could always react fast enough if something goes off course.

From: Wizzup?
Closing the forums now, why exactly?

We already have quite some working scripts and now that people are coming here, a lot is happening. Why would you want to stop that advancement? We can use all the extra users.

I don't think the correct words are being said here. "use" the newcomers? That's ermm…. going to be … odd… considering:

a) Pretty though because most of them are from a bot where you click your mouse twice and you're able to run the bot no problem.

b) The time spent on moderating the forms with an intake of such a high registration user/day is probably greater than the actual production of scripts.

c) To be honest, and fair, there is too much help around the forums… but it is unorganized. Landing pages to forums, or even a more organized forum for new users so they can't see anything except for a couple sections which will be highly maintained as oppose to full website access (with the exception of Members, etc…)

Just my two cents.

E: However… there could be a workaround for all this nonsense, easy… Just make a few deliberate errors which MUST be fixed before running the script.

I been visiting the forum for the past few months, but just now I decided to make an account… I don't know what to say about your suggestion as I am still trying to learn the ropes.

Definitely keep the forums open, it's great to see so many new people. Do you smell that? Do you smell the winds of learning?