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Back in the old days, the scripting competitions were a lot of fun. In fact I even made a powerfisher for SC #2 back then (wow, I completely forgot I actually made that thing :o) and was happy to see me being ranked #2 right behind The Claw. After all, he was the dev and I was only SRL Member for a few months. It sure was fun to do it.

However, since then a lot of members left and a lot of new members arrived. So I was wondering, isn't it fun to have another one?
I can judge those scripts so that wouldn't be a problem. This time reflection will most likely be allowed so laziness isn't an excuse for not competing ;) Also I don't mind allowing both jr members and regular membs.

So, who wants to join regular SRL Scripting Competition #6 with an actual RS script as goal in mind?
Also, shall we make it a fully open contest (you can submit any script) or do we have some brilliant ideas for things we want scripted? Nothing p2p only please, might scare participants off!

I am 100% in!!!

Ill join in, but i think we should have a goal for the comp

Collaboration dungeoneering script, whoever contributes the most gets the cup :p

From: TomTuff
Collaboration dungeoneering script, whoever contributes the most gets the cup :p

I was thinking of that for a scirpt ! Ive posted a couple of idea's somewhere, in the khans i think.

But that would be great if a group of us could get together and i make one, i would be 100% in

Sounds nice, but perhaps some sort of preset idea; it's hard to grade in a fair way otherwise.

Yeah, agree with Wizzup?, definitely have a preset idea and not a collaborative script xD

I'm agreeing with having a goal. Free style might be a bit wild to judge.

Couple of ideas:
- Dungeoneering script
- Tutorial runner
- Rune Mysteries completer

I'd also happily be judge if need be.

I wouldn't mind a Rune Mysteries Quester :L

-Boom

If there is a competition, I would join. And nobody has written a tutorial runner yet :eek: I wanted to write one, but I thought it had already been done!

I'd definitely join in if the goal is a tutorial runner. :)

I would be interested in joining any type of open competition. Since I'm still a newbie to scripting, I would look at the goal as extra practice.

But te ideas of either a Tut runner or a Rune Myst completer sounds fun, the Tut runner would certaintly take a little bit more dedication to get the timing correct.

Tutorial runner!!!

Tut runner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like a pretty hard script. A miner can already be quite challenging if you want to make it a good one.

From: Wizzup?
Sounds like a pretty hard script. A miner can already be quite challenging if you want to make it a good one.

But it's done a million times already, and we need a good tutorial runner more than yet another good miner

I think a slayer :D
Would be hard but rewarding.

-Boom

From: Dynamite
I think a slayer :D
Would be hard but rewarding.

-Boom

p2p :/
"Nothing p2p only please, might scare participants off!"

Ahh, yes sorry forgot xD

-Boom

I'd be down for joining in on the tutorial runner script :)

I think a tutorial runner is something that could be tackled with MSI or another collaborative effort.

Something like this should be something simple that someone could really make super awesome accurate or run wild and make it super extensive.

I was actually thinking of saying a `Power Skiller` with the basic skills covered, Mining, WC, and Fishing.

tut runner is too easy tbh(its nothing at all compared to the old tut island), maby a "all in one" script for a specific town, like draynor or fally :)

From: Rich
I'm agreeing with having a goal. Free style might be a bit wild to judge.

Couple of ideas:
- Dungeoneering script
- Tutorial runner
- Rune Mysteries completer

I'd also happily be judge if need be.

From: Dynamite
I wouldn't mind a Rune Mysteries Quester :L

-Boom

rune mysteries and the tut are both >5 mins to do yourself tho :P not long at all.
maybe something a bit more… substantial? just my opinion. but i will not be competing. im curious to see the outcome and what kinds of scripts are made however.

From: P3rs0nal1ty
rune mysteries and the tut are both >5 mins to do yourself tho :P not long at all.
maybe something a bit more… substantial? just my opinion. but i will not be competing. im curious to see the outcome and what kinds of scripts are made however.

<5 ;)
Also, I think you should make it a script that is one of the main skills (mining, fishing, woodcutting, cooking, firemaking etc) but make it a specifically hard place xD

-Boom

Why make it hard? If we make it easy more poeple enter and get active but also the best of the best make it GREAT and super, and poeple would use it as its would be a easy place which is normaly common

I would like a challenging script to make, but I don't want the choice to scare off the other newer scripters. It's more fun if there's more people competing.

Depending on when it is on I would participate. Please make it somthing that is simple on the outside(Fisher, Miner, Woodcutter), but can be made very complex.

I won't do a tutorial runner for sure, it's way too complex and also hard to test (I am NOT going to create 20 accs just to see if the tut runner actually works, besides old tut island is gone :().
Fisher/miner was already done.
How about a firemaker and/or woodcutter?

A all in one woodcutter and fm would be nice

I would be down to join this competition as long as everyone has to make something similar and f2p. I actually have gathered all the information for a tutorial runner and a nice outline complete… Would take me around a day or two to complete. I have work in 8 hours and haven't slept yet…. maybe an all nighter to try and get it done. In my opinion, it's wayyy to easy now that the tutorial island isn't used. I would suggest a quest competition. F2p quests only and the tutorial doesn't count. It would be interesting to see who would make Dragon Slayer lol.

I like the idea of a WCer and FMer. Have the option to bank, drop, or burn logs after chopping them, and also a normal FMer.

From: Rich
I like the idea of a WCer and FMer. Have the option to bank, drop, or burn logs after chopping them, and also a normal FMer.

This pl0x :) <3

-Boom

I like the FM'er and WC'er, a novice scritper like myself will be able to finish it, but I can see how somebody could add detail(multiple locations, log types, etc.). The thought of an all-in-one skiller as also mentioned, scares me enough I might not even attempt to start it.

All-in-one is too complex, same with tutorial. Any brilliant idea's besides FM/WC?

Dungeoeeringer? (sorry can't think of if this is p2p or not)

Dungeoneering is f2p but I can't imagine how you'd script it. RSBot can do it with some reflection hax but colour would instantly be excluded.
Too complex I think..

A tutorial runner that does rune mysteries quest after the tutorial is done

From: Dynamite
I wouldn't mind a Rune Mysteries Quester :L

-Boom

From: Troll Man
Tut runner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Markus
Dungeoneering is f2p but I can't imagine how you'd script it. RSBot can do it with some reflection hax but colour would instantly be excluded.
Too complex I think..

Dungeoneering script would be some intense stuff, no doubt about it.

I didn't even think it was possible at all, but I don't have any idea how rsbot runs

However much fun a tut runner would be, it would be bad/silly to judge

From: Markus
All-in-one is too complex, same with tutorial. Any brilliant idea's besides FM/WC?

I think an all in one could work. (WC or FM or something) The advanced scripters could do all the things that they desire with the skill, while the beginners could have just a power chopper or something.

You could leave it at woodcutter / firemaker and let the people pick if they want flawless 1 loc or all in one

Before starting a new competition, we first need to post the results for JM#2 and competition #5.. :X

So I voted accidentally for the wrong option, I meant to vote for option 2, if a staff could change it :)

Also, I like the idea of a simple script like a woodcutter or something, because there are advanced object tracking portions which a scripter can impress with, and others will fall victim to reflection's ease of use with two lines of code to check for cutting, etc. I think that it would be a good idea to start up, because it allows new scripters to give it a shot and get good feedback.

From: 3Garrett3
So I voted accidentally for the wrong option, I meant to vote for option 2, if a staff could change it :)

Done :)

Fishing! :v

From: Hobbit
Done :)

Oh I wasn't going to even bother you guys, but I did the same thing yesterday lol…

#2 definitely

I'm up for another competition, I'll take part in this one.

In terms of the script, I think it should definitely be colour, as (IMO) there's many more options with colour scripting, so it takes more skill, ergo making it generally better to differentiate between the good ones, and the great ones. The script itself, I think something highly basic, like a woodcutter/fishing, as this would get a large amount of use after the competition.

How about we leave it reasonably open, but still keep it to stuff we need. Dungeoneering resource area scripts…

If the competition is open to non-SRL Members then I may enter it for fun. I've been planning on trying my hand at a Reflection tut runner (I'm still garbage at pure Color scripting) since I'm in the process of building up my army anyways; however, I'd be willing to put that off if the competition was about something else.

Also I feel like an AIO Dungeoneering script would require something exponentially above the level of MSI, which is a much bigger undertaking than could be done with a single competition. You'd need to be able to perform any of the (what is it now, 26?) skills in every possible randomly generated room; be able to fight each boss with the required methods/strategies; and keep track of the locations of items and room features, as well as the map layout of the entire dungeon. This would be pretty difficult and time-consuming to pull off even with Reflection, and I doubt it can even be done period with Color alone.

And about my opinions on the competition script: I think it needs to be a single skill/objective for sure, not a multi-skill sort of thing. Now if it was one skill with required support of at least 2 locations, I think that would be fair; also, any quest runner could be good.

IMO it should be FULL color. Although reflection is an option, where is the fun in that? I just think that a competition with a nice first second third cup prize(just like I have the old timer one.) should be full color. I honestly don't think JaGeX will ever step up and have the balls to ban all the bots who blatantly auto with information they are gathering from the client itself! But what if… you know? What if JaGeX started paying attention? Everyone would come here for the genius that is simple color. Having a competition that challenges all to show what they are made of(rather than the rs client itself) would just further the color learning here.

In my honest opinion, there will be a day where all bots fall. Only one will stand. And that bot(it's not just a bot to me actually… It's knowledge, a fantastic community and a common goal to be better) will be simba. Or it could be scar… All I'm trying to get at is that we will be here(having a program do tasks for us in a game with colors) way longer than those who take the easy way out.

As much as I support the use of Reflection, I do agree that perhaps it should be colour only. If not colour only, perhaps a limit on how much Reflection can be used?

Maybe limit to only allowing reflection in walking?

From: Dynamite
Maybe limit to only allowing reflection in walking?

Or maybe use reflection but you lose marks for heavy use/breaking if reflection is out dated. So it can be fail safe and also you dont lose to many marks for walking?

From: Troll Man
Or maybe use reflection but you lose marks for heavy use/breaking if reflection is out dated. So it can be fail safe and also you dont lose to many marks for walking?

This sounds about right. I think you should be allowed a Reflection backup for the sake of keeping the script running, but the script should primarily rely on color for everything that isn't walking.

From: Tlachtli
This sounds about right. I think you should be allowed a Reflection backup for the sake of keeping the script running, but the script should primarily rely on color for everything that isn't walking.

Nah i think more marks if you walk in colour

What if our reflection(the information some of us use from the client to create precision) broke and could never be fixed? That's why we need to move away from it. What good is a script that includes walking ONLY if you have reflection? The only way I see using reflection as a legit operation is ONLY if the script fully works without it just as well. And then, what would be the point in creating a reflection side to your script at all? Like I said, taking the easy way out.

We will ALWAYS have COLORS. Reflection IMO will not be around forever.

Reflection is allowed, though there will be a point cap as not to disadvantage people using colour.

From: Markus
Reflection is allowed, though there will be a point cap as not to disadvantage people using colour.

extra points for hybrid?

How about you REQUIRE both to display that the scripter has lots of knowledge.

Honestly, both shouldn't be required as reflection is wayyyy easier than pure color.

From: Nava2
extra points for hybrid?

Not for hybrid per-sé, but if you use both you can get more points. (Points for using reflections cheating-like running style, points unbreakable colour runtime).
Oh well, we'll be going live within 24 hours so you can see what I've got then yourself ;)

From: Nava2
extra points for hybrid?

Obviously not? You're still using reflection?

I have this problem that I often want to script something, but I can never decide what I want to script. So having a pre-set script would be great for me.

It'll be a pre-set script. As soon as Hobbit opens up the forums, the competition can start!

No! Color only! Or 1000 points possible for color but only 750 possible for reflection.

From: Markus
It'll be a pre-set script. As soon as Hobbit opens up the forums, the competition can start!

How soon/long will that be? I want to enter :p

From: lordsaturn
No! Color only! Or 1000 points possible for color but only 750 possible for reflection.

Reflection's maximum is 250 (out of 1200) lower than colour. Also, most reflection scripts are easier than colour so they will score less on creativity and scripting technique.
One isn't necessary rated above the other. Hybrids, however, get best of both worlds.

Best of both worlds, but more time spent(for no added gain). You should just save people time and say color only.

From: Troll Man
How soon/long will that be? I want to enter :p

~45 min :)

urg, can't wait, probably another ~15mins or so:p

From: PatDuffy
urg, can't wait, probably another ~15mins or so:p

Well if your like me, being opening then super hard tuts and get ready :p

GO GO GO GO!


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