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Hey guys, I am probably going to be banned on here soon, because of this little thing I did not scar scripts forums to try and trick arrogant noobs.

As you know, I have not been active at all. I basically quit scripting and RS. But my friend recently got hacked, so I figured I would release this sort of "keylogger" (just takes password and username when they enter it) to a less-educated site, where I figured there would be noobs that thought it was really going to Hack Runescape for them. They would then email me the entire folder in a ZIP file that contained disguised sounds (a heartbeat noise that would play and then a nuke going off) and a file that was written with their username and password in it. I did not want to release it here because I like this community and did not really want to take anything form anyone here.

I thought that this script was not bad, because it really is not hard to find the actual code, and was originally meant as a joke that I was going to post here in the members forums and laugh about, but I never really ended up posting it.

But then I realized IceFire was on that website when he posted in my thread that had the link to the script. I knew that he was a fairly good scripter when I saw him before I was inactive here, so I really did not understand why he would be associated with those forums that were really much less educated in SCAR and SRL. Then he claimed to figure out who I was on here, and he ended up being completely wrong. I found it very funny how he could get some random person instead of the actual me, so I told them who I was on here. I don't want Robin (kid that apparently was me) to get banned for something I did. And now I think I figured out that YoHoJo or some of his friends or someone he knows ran the ip test for me, and it was wrong, so that probably is not a reliable way to test.

Idk, I really didn't think I would get in trouble here, seeing that I purposely left SRL alone and have never done anything malicious on this site (maybe a few small arguments but nothing serious), but it just seems that no-one really understands that this script was geared to leechers that just took scripts and really had no idea what SCAR could or couldn't do, and that I might get banned.

Hopefully I'll be able to stay on here, but if not, so be it. I had a great time with you guys when I was still active on here, and I tried to help out as much as I could. If anyone wants to see the script (now knowing what it does, eliminating the risk), then just download it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/161327794/HackRuneScape.rar.html
You can scan it, but I'll just tell you that there are no viruses on it or anything.
And if you wanna talk or anything, my MSN is [email]PWNMEISTER@live.com[/email].

What you have done is wrong. Very wrong.
But seeing you posted this here, I don't think you really deserve a ban.
It takes some guts to post it here, and it's brave that you want to protect the other guy, named Robin.

I don't have much more to say, except for this:

Don't ever do this again… :)

From: Wizzup?
What you have done is wrong. Very wrong.
But seeing you posted this here, I don't think you really deserve a ban.
It takes some guts to post it here, and it's brave that you want to protect the other guy, named Robin.

I don't have much more to say, except for this:

Don't ever do this again… :)

Thank you very much. I won't do it again, but it really was made as a joke (it minimized the window into the system tray or whatever, played the heartbeat a few times, then played a nuke going off, and popped up with "YOU'VE BEEN HACKED" but really didn't take anything). Although I won't do it again, I do believe that if someone really will not take the time to read about and understand what the program they are using can do, then that's their fault for being falling to an obvious trick. And I did not cross that line, because I did not disguise it as something that SCAR actually COULD do, such as auto-woodcut or something to that effect. I won't do it again though don't worry.

BUT WARNING: My friend did copy this zip onto his flash drive, and I don't know if nor where he plans to use this. I'll tell him not to, but there really is nothing I can do now. I'm just saying this so you guys realize to watch out for it, but I'm sure you guys here are all smart enough to glance through the script and see if it's obviously a trick. If you look at mine, then I'm sure it'll be almost the same thing, but possibly disguised as something different.

EDIT: Also, I wanted to try and script something for SRL, but I have not scripted in a long time and I don't know if all of my procedures/functions will work. I'll give it a try though. But I have one question. Which is the more popularly used mouse function, WindMouse or MMouse? If it is WindMouse, what does WindMouse do that makes it better?

MMouse uses WindMouse.. xD

use MMouse

Lol thanks… Now I just have to download the new SRL =O.

Edit:Ummm…MouseSpeed is unidentified for me… I have 3.15 and the newest SRL. Is this because 3.15 does not have MouseSpeed? Do I need to use 3.20 Beta 8? I really don't feel like checking plus I have a friend over, so just respond please.

It's not so much that you released malicious material on scar-scripts it's the fact that you were being a complete asshole and calling all of my friends retards for telling other people not to download your file.

I think everyone should at least view this thread http://forum.scar-scripts.com/scar-discussion/111-hack-runescape.html

And for the record Yo Ho Jo is the one who ran the IP (67.159.44.138/ 67.159.45.52) check not myself, besides 'the robbin' is a leecher who has been inactive for several months.

@Wizzup? are you sure now that you know the whole story he only deserves a fair warning for trying to scam innocent people?

This is quite a compromise to your security seeing as other people viewing this thread now know they can get away with such a thing with out any punishment other than a "fair warning".

@Doofy After all of this though, I'm a reasonable person and I'll say no hard feelings but the least you could do is apologize at www.scar-scripts.com aswell instead of just posting this here just to get you out of trouble.

Do not think you are completely off the hook just yet,

you've avoided the death penalty by pleading guilty but you may still serve some time.

Attempting to steal people's passwords?

Sorry I can't trust you anymore and TBH I think you deserve a ban even though you came clean after your password stealing script epically failed.

Edit: Your attitude on that forum is a lot different than here. Why is that..?
Any reason to be particularly nice here? =P

From: Hugolord
Attempting to steal people's passwords?

Sorry I can't trust you anymore and TBH I think you deserve a ban even though you came clean after your password stealing script epically failed.

I agree with Hugo… we simply can no longer trust someone in his position. Although he did plead guilty, I believe we can not just let him off with a simple warning…. it would encourage others to do as he did if we don't.

I'm in favor of ban, thanks for coming clean Doofy, but you should never of tried to hack people in the first place…

From: IceFire908
I agree with Hugo… we simply can no longer trust someone in his position. Although he did plead guilty, I believe we can not just let him off with a simple warning…. it would encourage others to do as he did if we don't.

I'm in favor of ban, thanks for coming clean Doofy, but you should never of tried to hack people in the first place…

But no.. The admins here will just give a slap on the wrist just like with Hey123 or w.e he's called.
Or close this and not even mention it actually.
I remember the time when SRL was really anti-scammers/hackers… back when someone likeMage Of Begu would be banned in 5 seconds.
Oh wel.. :(

SCAR-SCRIPTS ADIMISTRATION
Plead can be defined simply as admitting you did something wrong, and even if it wasn't a virus it was malicious and had the attentions of stealing innocent people's accounts which is very low so even though it wasn't a "virus" it was just as bad if not worse.

So I'm going to ban you from this site for good, and I think that you'll find your friends at SRL will no longer trust you

Sorry Doofy, but you made a stupid decision and now you're going to pay for it dearly…

Goodbye.

In case anyone was wondering what was to come of him at the site of the offense.

@SRL's Administration: I would recommend the same, but I'm sure you'll make a wise decision so I'll leave that you ya'll

Just thought I report some mis-doings even though they were not committed here, none the less they were committed in the name of SCAR and runescape cheating…

Don't trust me, really. You know that you don't have to. But if you read my posts here, would realize I was onl

ATTITUDE DIFFERENCE: Already explained. I'll reiterate. I LIKE this community, it is noob free (at least the members' section). MY attitude is only bad over there because kids were not checking on things before they posted, such as it was a virus and how I was Robin…

BTW IceFire: I AM NOT ROBIN!!! I won't respond to Robin, sorry. I don't know if you are actually talking to this Robin person or me…

Also, I have never done anything malicious on this site ever, only helped it by releasing scripts such as my Alcher & Teleporter and releaseing several functions. I really am no security threat.

ALSO: This is a SCAR script, I have never seen another password taker SCAR script (although I'm sure someone else probably has made one), but I don't think many non-members would be able to make this, and members that could would not post it here, because they are trusted.

I did not give out any viruses, and you can easily check for viruses by scanning. I have done nothing malicious on this site.

And BTW: Not even close to as bad as a virus. If I gave you a virus, it would be unbelievable how much information I could take, anything entered into your computer, not just a little RuneScape account. Not even close.

EDIT: I did not call your friends retards until they started making false accusations about the download, such as how it was a virus when it was not, and how you guys were wrong about a lot of stuff, but insisted on you being right.

From: Doofy
Don't trust me, really. You know that you don't have to. But if you read my posts here, would realize I was onl

ATTITUDE DIFFERENCE: Already explained. I'll reiterate. I LIKE this community, it is noob free (at least the members' section). MY attitude is only bad over there because kids were not checking on things before they posted, such as it was a virus and how I was Robin…

BTW IceFire: I AM NOT ROBIN!!! I won't respond to Robin, sorry. I don't know if you are actually talking to this Robin person or me…

Also, I have never done anything malicious on this site ever, only helped it by releasing scripts such as my Alcher & Teleporter and releaseing several functions. I really am no security threat.

ALSO: This is a SCAR script, I have never seen another password taker SCAR script (although I'm sure someone else probably has made one), but I don't think many non-members would be able to make this, and members that could would not post it here, because they are trusted.

I did not give out any viruses, and you can easily check for viruses by scanning. I have done nothing malicious on this site.

I did not say you were robin after you admitted you were Doofy,
I did not ever say it was a virus, infact I said it was not a virus but just as bad as one if not worse

The fact of the matter is you released a file with very bad attentions, and if you would read what I have posted instead of assuming I agree with everyone else you would know what I think.

From: Doofy
Don't trust me, really. You know that you don't have to. But if you read my posts here, would realize I was onl

ATTITUDE DIFFERENCE: Already explained. I'll reiterate. I LIKE this community, it is noob free (at least the members' section). MY attitude is only bad over there because kids were not checking on things before they posted, such as it was a virus and how I was Robin…

BTW IceFire: I AM NOT ROBIN!!! I won't respond to Robin, sorry.

Also, I have never done anything malicious on this site ever, only helped it by releasing scripts such as my Alcher & Teleporter and releaseing several functions. I really am no security threat.

Doesn't really matter if it wasn't on this site.
The whole point of SRL members is that they are chosen to be above average scar scripts and they are TRUSTWORTHY <—– YES THAT OVER THERE

Even today I saw a couple of new scripts that had the password of whoever ( can't remember who) made the script still in them. If you had been the first person to open that link and see that password I am 100% sure you would have changed password and not given it back to the respectful owner unlike most other SRL members who would have.
This is why I think you should at least be dismembered (or dememberized I dunno) until you gain our trust again.
Also, you are being very stupid to having the same attitude that you have on scar-scripts to IceFire, I suggest you leave all the mockery and sarcasm out of this thread. You like this community? You barely know this community you are barely active and have only like 185 posts (doubt all are helpful).
Also, nobody gives a **** if it was a virus or not. You and I both know that no virus scanner will detect a .scar as a virus so why even bother going there?

From: Doofy
(it minimized the window into the system tray or whatever, played the heartbeat a few times, then played a nuke going off, and popped up with "YOU'VE BEEN HACKED" but really didn't take anything).

From: Doofy

Although I won't do it again, I do believe that if someone really will not take the time to read about and understand what the program they are using can do, then that's their fault for being falling to an obvious trick. And I did not cross that line, because I did not disguise it as something that SCAR actually COULD do, such as auto-woodcut or something to that effect. I won't do it again though don't worry.

That not the policy of scar.

From: Hugolord
Doesn't really matter if it wasn't on this site.
The whole point of SRL members is that they are chosen to be above average scar scripts and they are TRUSTWORTHY <—– YES THAT OVER THERE

Even today I saw a couple of new scripts that had the password of whoever ( can't remember who) made the script still in them. If you had been the first person to open that link and see that password I am 100% sure you would have changed password and not given it back to the respectful owner unlike most other SRL members who would have.
This is why I think you should at least be dismembered (or dememberized I dunno) until you gain our trust again.
Also, you are being very stupid to having the same attitude that you have on scar-scripts to IceFire, I suggest you leave all the mockery and sarcasm out of this thread. You like this community? You barely know this community you are barely active and have only like 185 posts (doubt all are helpful).
Also, nobody gives a **** if it was a virus or not. You and I both know that no virus scanner will detect a .scar as a virus so why even bother going there?

No, I actually would have given them back. Like I said, I like this Community. Don't even tell me I don't know about our community. I was very active when I used to script, and BTW, I signed up and was active on this site before you.

Also, there is no attitude towards IceFire that is malicious (no mockery nor sarcasm) in my other post, I have no idea what you were reading.

And yeah, post count doesn't mean everything, to let you know. And I'm sure all of your thousands of posts are all helpful, just like this one im responding to right?

And IceFire, in your post here you said "@Robin". It seemed like you were talking to me though.

From: Doofy
And IceFire, in your post here you said "@Robin". It seemed like you were talking to me though.

Hmm it does… I'll change it.

I still never said it was a virus, and as Hugo explained I'm sure no one will care that it wasn't a virus because it was much worse than one.

From: Doofy
No, I actually would have given them back. Like I said, I like this Community. Don't even tell me I don't know about our community. I was very active when I used to script, and BTW, I signed up and was active on this site before you.

Also, there is no attitude towards IceFire that is malicious (no mockery nor sarcasm) in my other post, I have no idea what you were reading.

And yeah, post count doesn't mean everything, to let you know. And I'm sure all of your thousands of posts are all helpful, just like this one im responding to right?

And IceFire, in your post here you said "@Robin". It seemed like you were talking to me though.

Excuse me but if you want to take the time to read every single one of my posts I have never have a scamming attitude.
You would have given them back? haha that's gotta be a joke
Someone that's just posted a password scamming script on a forum tells me that he wouldn't steal an account if he got the chance? wow make up your mind about scamming or not kiddo.
Also, you lied on your first post. (read my post above and you will see how)

I never said that you said it was a virus. But you did say it was as bad, if not worse, and that is where you are completely wrong. If I gave you a virus, I could get not only just your RuneScape account's info, but all of your other accounts info (if you have more RS accounts), all your forum info, access to basically everything on your computer. I could open a school paper you have saved, for instance, and find out your name, teachers name, anything like that. I could then find out where you live with this info and come kill you. Is that really better than taking your RS account? To me no, but I guess that depends on how much you like RS, and that better be a whole lot.

HugoLord:
I didn't say you've had a scamming attitude, I said your posts arent all helpful.
Have I ever had a scamming attitude on this site? NO.
Like I said, I WOULD NOT STEAL ANY ACCOUNTS ON THIS SITE. IF I WANTED TO, I WOULD HAVE DONE SO BY NOW. OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANT TO THOUGH. HONESTLY, THINK ABOUT WHAT I TYPE BEFORE YOU RESPOND.

And what did I lie about? Tell me, because I see nothing wrong.

Actually a virus wouldn't be worse because most people have anti-virus and it would easily of been detected and removed as opposed to a scar script that relies on some one's trust.

I guess you could say a virus would be worse, but only if it worked which there is a small chance of if you compared it to the chance of your script working.

Regardless of the fact of whether or not it's worse than a virus it's an account stealer and it's still bad. You really aught to stop saying it wasn't a virus… I think we got that by now.

From: Doofy
I never said that you said it was a virus. But you did say it was as bad, if not worse, and that is where you are completely wrong. If I gave you a virus, I could get not only just your RuneScape account's info, but all of your other accounts info (if you have more RS accounts), all your forum info, access to basically everything on your computer. I could open a school paper you have saved, for instance, and find out your name, teachers name, anything like that. I could then find out where you live with this info and come kill you. Is that really better than taking your RS account? To me no, but I guess that depends on how much you like RS, and that better be a whole lot.

You're a moron.
1. Stealing runescape accounts is the saddest thing on the internet.
2. I doubt you culd even make a VB virus.
3. even if you did know where I lived I doubt you'd try anything because you're probably a very sad 16year old. (You want my ip? pm me if you want)

Also, don't try to justify what you did as "not being a very harmful thing" because even though it epically failed it was harmful and I'm sure if I pm'ed Fakawi (which I will do tomorrow when I have time) he would de-memberize you.

"but I guess that depends on how much you like RS, and that better be a whole lot."

By the looks of it, you would marry runescape and have sex with it every single day of your life (if you could) since you were trying tosteal runescape accounts from a SRL-ish Forum :f:

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to bed. :spot:

Comparing account stealing scripts to viruses is like comparing 1st and 3rd degree murder and the only difference between the two is that one is worse (virus) but another is easier to do (acc script).

Just because it wasn't a virus, and regardless of whether or not which one is worse. You did something horrible and saying it could of been worse doesn't make your situation any better.

-Last thing I'm gonna say about the "it's not a virus" crap

You're right it is a bad thing. And if you want me to stop saying that it's not a virus, then stop saying it is worse than a virus because it is not.

@HugoLord:

1) No, that's not the saddest thing on the internet. You thinking I'm a sad 16 year old is.
2) No I couldn't make a VB virus. I could make something similar in Java/C+ though.
3) Dude, don't even start talking shit through the internet. What's funny is I am 16 and I guarantee I would be the living shit out of you regardless of your age. And no, I don't want your IP, nerd.

I quit around 2 years ago or so, and you still have thousands of posts on this forum so don't try and tell me you aren't obsessed with it. If you could fucking read, then you would see I am saying how someone else must like RuneScape a hell of a lot.

And it was not a SRL-ish forum. It was a bunch of noobs.

Just because someone is a noob or arrogant doesn't give you a right to take what isn't yours.

How would you like it if someone did this to you?

And what about the rest of scripters?

You think this gives us good rep. that scripters are using other scripter's trust and and their own talent to deceive unsuspecting people? (YES ASSHOLE, "NOOBS" ARE REAL PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE THAT REALLY EXIST TOO)

Putting malicious code in SCAR scripts makes us all look bad, handing out malicious material of any kind makes us all look bad.

SCAR was created to eliminate people like you from doing bad things by creating open sourced scripting, the fact that anyone would find a way around this and exploit it is a disgrace to us all…

From: IceFire908
Just because someone is a noob or arrogant doesn't give you a right to take what isn't yours.

How would you like it if someone did this to you?

And what about the rest of scripters?

You think this gives us good rep. that scripters are using other scripter's trust and and their own talent to deceive unsuspecting people? (YES ASSHOLE, "NOOBS" ARE REAL PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE THAT REALLY EXIST TOO)

Putting malicious code in SCAR scripts makes us all look bad, handing out malicious material of any kind makes us all look bad.

SCAR was created to eliminate people like you from doing bad things by creating open sourced scripting, the fact that anyone would find a way around this and exploit it is a disgrace to us all…

No, it really does not at all. Obviously everyone doesn't do this, or else you wouldn't be bitching at me. It does not disgrace you and you know it.

BTW. I wouldn't let a SCAR script hack me. It wouldn't happen to me.

From: Doofy
No, it really does not at all. Obviously everyone doesn't do this, or else you wouldn't be bitching at me. It does not disgrace you and you know it.

BTW. I wouldn't let a SCAR script hack me. It wouldn't happen to me.

Some one hacked your friend so you're going to go hack some one else… so everyone else hacks everyone – Great thinking…

The entire reason your plan might of worked is because other honest people do work and gain the trust of others by doing great things, if it weren't for us no one would trust you. So you are exploiting the trust we have with the common "noob" by creating an account stealing script claiming to be a "scripter" like us.

It disgraces me to associate what I do with something that has been known to steal from innocent people like you.

What you did was a disgrace to SRL, to SCAR, to scripters.

If you don't believe me then whatever

Let the SRL community decide, I'm taking a break from this thread for a while now so others can reply

You'll see here soon by the many posts that will come in what every one thinks about account stealing scripts…

This thread title kinda leads people away because Good bye threads are common and annoying…

So I made you a nice little poll.

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38053

When you move from another country because of a crime, does that countries government persecute you for that crime, even if they know of it? Yes, if other people know, they won't think of you the same way, but they really can't hold what you did against you. Please, don't compare it to murder – it is completely different in every way besides the fact that they are both looked down upon.

From: IceFire908
so everyone else hacks everyone – Great thinking…

What the fuck are you talking about? I never said anything like that, so don't even know how to respond.

Edit: Thank you Robot. I understand it was a bad thing, but its not murder nor even a virus.

From: R0b0t1
When you move from another country because of a crime, does that countries government persecute you for that crime, even if they know of it? Yes, if other people know, they won't think of you the same way, but they really can't hold what you did against you. Please, don't compare it to murder – it is completely different in every way besides the fact that they are both looked down upon.

How'd I know someone was gonna flip and say I was comparing

Account stealing -> Murder

I'm comparing

Virus vs Account stealing is like comparing 1st to 3rd murder

You're blowing my comparison out of proportion saying I'm comparing Account stealing to murder…

From: Doofy
What the fuck are you talking about? I never said anything like that, so don't even know how to respond.

Edit: Thank you Robot. I understand it was a bad thing, but its not murder nor even a virus.

What the fuck?

You would think that if you are going to confess to something you think you would admit what you did was bad but instead you go about looking for any trace of justification you can find to save you i.e. word games, spelling errors, things that are worse than what you did, and how "your friend was hacked so you can help him out by hacking someone else is OK" which for all we know is a load of shit you made up…

I really hope you see that trying to steal people's accounts is bad and the fact that you are trying to justify it by saying you were stealing from noobs was OK and that it's not as bad as a virus (or murder, wtf…?) is just plain stupid.

I might give you some credit if you apologized to scar-scripts and SRL for doing something as low as handing out account stealing scripts instead of trying to save your ass like this and then trying justifying what you've done.

If you walk away from this with a slap on the wrist (especially with your current attitude and thoughts justifying it) all I have to say is this community isn't what it once was and I'll be very disappointed at very least…

@SRL members, FFS! see through this charade…

From: IceFire908
How'd I know someone was gonna flip and say I was comparing

Account stealing -> Murder

I'm comparing

Virus vs Account stealing is like comparing 1st to 3rd murder

You're blowing my comparison out of proportion saying I'm comparing Account stealing to murder…



What the fuck?

You would think that if you are going to confess to something you think you would admit what you did was bad but instead you go about looking for any trace of justification you can find to save you i.e. word games, spelling errors, things that are worse than what you did, and how "your friend was hacked so you can help him out by hacking someone else is OK" which for all we know is a load of shit you made up…

I really hope you see that trying to steal people's accounts is bad and the fact that you are trying to justify it by saying you were stealing from noobs was OK and that it's not as bad as a virus (or murder, wtf…?) is just plain stupid.

I might give you some credit if you apologized to scar-scripts and SRL for doing something as low as handing out account stealing scripts instead of trying to save your ass like this and then trying justifying what you've done.

If you walk away from this with a slap on the wrist (especially with your current attitude and thoughts justifying it) all I have to say is this community isn't what it once was and I'll be very disappointed at very least…

@SRL members, FFS! see through this charade…

For one, if you haven't read any of my posts, I HAVE BEEN SAYING I KNOW WHAT I DID IS BAD!!! IM ADMITTING IT!!! I also am not justifying it, I was just telling you why I did it, because you asked on Scar-scripts forums. I have no idea what you're talking about with word games, but the spelling correction was making fun of We Run US or whatever because he did that to me (I was basically mocking him).

I said it's not as bad as a virus cuz YOU SAID IT WAS WORSE. I am just responding to the shit you've been saying, not justifying myself.

You don't have to believe me about my friend being hacked, but you fucking asked why I was doing it.

And you're using this "the community isn't once what it was" shit to try and get me banned and make it seem worse than it is. Maybe Wizzup just understands that I actually came clean, when I could have just as easily sat there and given the script to SRL and tons of other sites through a proxy and fake username and never have stopped or told anyone who I really was. Maybe he has some respect for what I did in that aspect.

You are just making it seem like everyone will lose respect for SRL because Wizzup (possibly) respects the choice I made in turning myself in.

From: Doofy
For one, if you haven't read any of my posts, I HAVE BEEN SAYING I KNOW WHAT I DID IS BAD!!! IM ADMITTING IT!!! I also am not justifying it, I was just telling you why I did it, because you asked on Scar-scripts forums. I have no idea what you're talking about with word games, but the spelling correction was making fun of We Run US or whatever because he did that to me (I was basically mocking him).

I said it's not as bad as a virus cuz YOU SAID IT WAS WORSE. I am just responding to the shit you've been saying, not justifying myself.

You don't have to believe me about my friend being hacked, but you fucking asked why I was doing it.

And you're using this "the community isn't once what it was" shit to try and get me banned and make it seem worse than it is. Maybe Wizzup just understands that I actually came clean, when I could have just as easily sat there and given the script to SRL and tons of other sites through a proxy and fake username and never have stopped or told anyone who I really was. Maybe he has some respect for what I did in that aspect.

You are just making it seem like everyone will lose respect for SRL because Wizzup (possibly) respects the choice I made in turning myself in.

You're lucky you even have a chance to explain yourself, in the good old days your ass would be long gone by now… sadly this is not the case.

Hopefully tomorrow or the next day will prove me wrong… when your kicked out of here.

Nah IceFire, a similar thread was opened recently in regard to Hey123 (or w.e he was called) coming back under this other name (Sand Storm or w.e) http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37583?t=40442 just got locked and no more dicussion.
Then a made a poll to ask if people think he should get banned and Wizzy promptly locked it =)
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37776?t=40641

Oh well, this forum is really not what it used to be I think I don't trust SRL members much anymore nor their scripts.

From: Hugolord
Nah IceFire, a similar thread was opened recently in regard to Hey123 (or w.e he was called) coming back under this other name (Sand Storm or w.e) http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37583?t=40442 just got locked and no more dicussion.
Then a made a poll to ask if people think he should get banned and Wizzy promptly locked it =)
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37776?t=40641

Oh well, this forum is really not what it used to be I think I don't trust SRL members much anymore nor their scripts.

Just take a good look over the script before use ;)

From: IceFire908
You're lucky you even have a chance to explain yourself, in the good old days your ass would be long gone by now… sadly this is not the case.

Hopefully tomorrow or the next day will prove me wrong… when your kicked out of here.

Do you really think so? I thought 'in the old days', we were even easier on people who did something wrong…? That's at least that people normally say… We were, however, harsh at lairs, which is not the case now.

From: Hugolord
Nah IceFire, a similar thread was opened recently in regard to Hey123 (or w.e he was called) coming back under this other name (Sand Storm or w.e) http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37583?t=40442 just got locked and no more dicussion.
Then a made a poll to ask if people think he should get banned and Wizzy promptly locked it =)
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37776?t=40641

Oh well, this forum is really not what it used to be I think I don't trust SRL members much anymore nor their scripts.

There was a lot more scamming in the old days, however. Your argument is not valid. I did lock it, as there was no need to flame on Hey321, it had already been discussed, and it was not up to you to decide, or start a poll so you could hope to overthrow the decision of the SRL Forum's team.

Like sandos wisely stated:

From: sandos1234
well i never knew the guy but if he was banned for being a pixel thief then reallistically he ruined a lot of the community, that's like inviting iroki back, and the admins should be discussing it not us maybe you should have just pmed one of them

From: Wizzup?
Do you really think so? I thought 'in the old days', we were even easier on people who did something wrong…? That's at least that people normally say… We were, however, harsh at lairs, which is not the case now.



There was a lot more scamming in the old days, however. Your argument is not valid. I did lock it, as there was no need to flame on Hey321, it had already been discussed, and it was not up to you to decide, or start a poll so you could hope to overthrow the decision of the SRL Forum's team.

Like sandos wisely stated:

pm you? hell you'd LOCK my private messaging or something if I tried that.
And Fakawi isn't active much so I couldn't really private message him and as for the other admins they're mostly busy/dont care/inactive.

Also, Doofy lied on his first post and tried to deceive people completely which was what IceFire was trying to clarify.

My argument was not valid? Well the first thread was locked so to FINISH the discussing about Hey321 I opened up a second post which instead of moving to the BBQ pit you just locked.
Go on, delete my thread if you really don't want people to read this. -,-

From: Hugolord
My argument was not valid? Well the first thread was locked so to FINISH the discussing about Hey321 I opened up a second post which instead of moving to the BBQ pit you just locked.
Go on, delete my thread if you really don't want people to read this. -,-

Give me one good reason to move it to the BBQ pit instead of lock it…?
If you wanted it to be a flame topic, then you should have posted it in the BBQ pit.

From: Wizzup?
Give me one good reason to move it to the BBQ pit instead of lock it…?
If you wanted it to be a flame topic, then you should have posted it in the BBQ pit.

I wrote in underlined bold red letters no flaming which meant people were supposed to give their opinion much like the thread IceFire just made.
If you THOUGHT it would turn into a flame war you could then move it to the BBQ and if it really got out of hand you could have locked it.
You did not give it a chance.

From: Hugolord
I wrote in underlined bold red letters no flaming which meant people were supposed to give their opinion much like the thread IceFire just made.
If you THOUGHT it would turn into a flame war you could then move it to the BBQ and if it really got out of hand you could have locked it.
You did not give it a chance.

Because it didn't deserve one. If you feel it was unjust, feel free to send me a personal message, but let's stay on topic now?

I doubt he locked it because of the possible (and likely) flame. More likely because it's not your decision Hugo. Nor is it IceFire's. Nor is it mine. In fact, the admins make the decisions and we must trust they make the right ones, and so far I believe they have done the right thing. After all, SRL hasn't grown to 50.000 members by pure luck.

Have a nice day.
-Knives

From: King of Knives
I doubt he locked it because of the possible (and likely) flame. More likely because it's not your decision Hugo. Nor is it IceFire's. Nor is it mine. In fact, the admins make the decisions and we must trust they make the right ones, and so far I believe they have done the right thing. After all, SRL hasn't grown to 50.000 members by pure luck.

Have a nice day.
-Knives

Maybe we should have had a public admin decision instead of just being told by Hey321/Sand Storm then?
OnTopic:
I do not think you will be banned Doofy so you're a lucky man/woman.

This has been blown a bit out of proportion, how do you think about cmparing a pixel stealing script with murder?
secondly, who looks through a script before trying it? Right most of us (im assuming). Since by checking it, you cover the risk of this sort of thing happening for malicious intent.
So if you look at the sciprt you would know straight away that its no normal script from they fact it might look obfuscated, but copy it into notepad and all the "obfusced" text is copied. So if you look at the sciprt u can then notice the english/code and piece together the actual script (like Lacky did over at scar-scripts)

Now with gp creation "scripts" everyone in their own mind would be weary, secondly if its done by a script, then it can be done by a human no?
(tell me if im wrong ive been gone a while) and so a bug like that A) wouldnt last long if it existed and B) would never exist anyway.

So even though what he did was wrong:
It was in no connection to this site
It is in no way like murder
Being banned for something not done to this community is too harsh
Lastly its non of your calls bar admin. Therefore who gave you the right to be judge jury and executioner?

~Spaz

From: Hugolord
Maybe we should have had a public admin decision instead of just being told by Hey321/Sand Storm then?
OnTopic:
I do not think you will be banned Doofy so you're a lucky man/woman.

There was. As stated in SandStorm/Hey321's thread, the admins accepted his request. I also posted on the thread if I recall correctly, stating that he was allowed to come back. How much more public do you want it?

From: [S]paz
This has been blown a bit out of proportion, how do you think about cmparing a pixel stealing script with murder?
secondly, who looks through a script before trying it? Right most of us (im assuming). Since by checking it, you cover the risk of this sort of thing happening for malicious intent.
So if you look at the sciprt you would know straight away that its no normal script from they fact it might look obfuscated, but copy it into notepad and all the "obfusced" text is copied. So if you look at the sciprt u can then notice the english/code and piece together the actual script (like Lacky did over at scar-scripts)

Now with gp creation "scripts" everyone in their own mind would be weary, secondly if its done by a script, then it can be done by a human no?
(tell me if im wrong ive been gone a while) and so a bug like that A) wouldnt last long if it existed and B) would never exist anyway.

So even though what he did was wrong:
It was in no connection to this site
It is in no way like murder
Being banned for something not done to this community is too harsh
Lastly its non of your calls bar admin. Therefore who gave you the right to be judge jury and executioner?

~Spaz

Correct

Murder is a million times worse than account stealing but if you read carefully:

No one was comparing

Account stealing to murder

they we're comparing

comparing Account stealing to Virus sending

to

comparing 1st to 3rd degree murder…

It clearly says that, and in another reply it already explains this.

Nice reading… I'll just assume you scrolled down to fast or something ;)

And there was is a fine line between stating your opinion and trying to force upon the decider to do something, I do not think that line was crossed at this thread…

And in a way this did affect this site because someone (FROM SRL) was using SRL's platform to deceive people even though it was not posted here… it has probably the largest connection to this site if any…

Hope I clarified all of your misinterpretations up there ^

I'd probably be less mad if Doofy didn't apologize to just SRL and to scar-scripts because after all he did flame everyone there and tried to post his script there and not here… w/e.

Please put your thoughts on one line.


Even though with what he did, I think he shouldn't have been banned. Just because there are fanatical people does not mean they should be listened to.

Think – if every crime went punished, it would be easier to use the prisons as fortresses.

From: R0b0t1
Please put your thoughts on one line.


Even though with what he did, I think he shouldn't have been banned. Just because there are fanatical people does not mean they should be listened to.

Think – if every crime went punished, it would be easier to use the prisons as fortresses.

Just because someone doesn't see eye to eye with you doesn't mean they are fanatical… I never claimed you to be fanatical… if anything accusing other people of such is in it self the same but I'll leave that alone seeing as you probably haven't considered that just yet.

If someone knew they could get away with something, then they'd be less inclined not to do it.

Same with others viewing this thread thinking of trying to steal accounts might believe the punishment for doing so isn't so bad. Severe Punishment would discourage people from committing offenses in the first place which is the ultimate goal.

Seriously, if you don't want to be banned, then don't do bad things to begin with it's that simple…

And think!

If every crime did go punished then the amount of future crime would have a serious decline… which is, like I said, the ultimate goal of this entire system.