SRL Archive - News and General

The recent update marked the end of an era. Lots of people are angry and frustrated, but we cheaters have no real reason to be frustrated. This update was directed directly to us. Jagex has done its utmost to prevent further influx of bots and RWT. I am not going to say anything in favour or against the new rules, all I know is we need a radical change of strategy. True, the profit of an army, one of the backbones of SRL, will be reduced to virtually zero if Jagex persist with these changes. But this doesn't mean SRL is dead or cheating development will stop here.

From now on we will focus more on the skill side of things as opposed to rsgp. As some of you might now, I have been working on a thieving project and have boosted on of my Players to thieving 93 without any risk. This in itself is a great challenge, and I could not have done this without SRL.

We will need to be more creative then we have ever been. I wont stop developing and hopefully you wont either. In fact it is my firm believe this will lead to more quality scripts, less leeching and a better community. All those that where in for pure leeching profit will ultimately leave, but those that are here for the community, the challenge and the fun will stay.

Dont leave us, we need you here more then ever. SRL is not dead , not while I am around.


The Fawk!

Glad to hear that SRL is sticking around.

The army days might be over but I think with the amazing scripters we have here SRL will overcome and new ways will be found.

I now I am not of much value here, I just give some opinions, posted a bad script that was out of date, and alot post progress reports but I have been working on a thieving script as well and have given thoughts to working on scripts that I can use on my main for leveling, since that's all I've been interested in, not really gp at all.

I'll be interested to see all the developments in the next weeks as to what will be done to keep everything alive. It is a shame but with the knowledge we have here I am sure we can figure things out.

i was waiting for you to tell us how where going to continue.
when you posted that link to a other game i thought. ''fakawi gave up to?''

RuneScape vs Real-world Trading

as they said, its a battle, and imo they haven't win him yet.

yes,, the script will start beeing more quality cause we have to changed our style. but does this basically mean we'll continue on our mains and stuff? or do we focus our self to find a way around that new 3k system? and multi play.

Fawk your opinion in us using multiplayer autoing still?

From: hugolord
Fawk your opinion in us using multiplayer autoing still?

Actually, multiplayer might just be the key to still making money with the new trade update. ;)

From: Wizzup?
Actually, multiplayer might just be the key to still making money with the new trade update. ;)

er.. but how ?

im with u fakawi.. hope not too many people will leave because of this update

~Spaz

From: rikjess
as they said, its a battle, and imo they haven't win him yet.

then its time for us to fight back now ^^

lets show we can't be killed! but jagex was stupid this time, they are killing runescape.

From: rikjess

RuneScape vs Real-world Trading

as they said, its a battle, and imo they haven't win him yet.

It was a battle, but then once Jagex realized they couldn't win, they nuked the entire place just so real-world traders wouldn't be able to either, and took out everyone else with it

I'm with you about not giving up. Only thing that worries me is that too many RS members will leave and they shut down the servers. F2P doesn't pay the bills.

I think this could be a huge improvement for SRL. The leechers only care about money and if that option is gone then most aren't willing to risk their mains. The ones who care and want to script and want to be part of all this will remain though. Less people will be looking for macros now though since they think that money making is impossible. This will leave just the few who truly are out to learn something and that will make the scripts worth risking your mains for.

This doesn't affect me a whole lot, I never traded to my main, only traded to my banker but I guess I can keep the money on my autoers and but things with it.

There is already one script here that would work around the system, I think.

IIRC, Rune Mule would log in every 30 minutes, claim runes, and then trade them to a mule account.

Each of these trades would pass under the 3k limit, but you could be doing this on multiple accounts 24/7.

I think it would be worth trying out a system like this for long periods of time to see how detectable it really is.

3k every 15 minutes adds up to 300k per day.

Three things we can do
1. Find a way around the 3K limit
Pretty hard to do, and well, they'll patch it.
2. Only auto for XP
No $ for us, but good XP, as we take banking out of our scripts
3. Single player approach
One player (main), auto more on it, reintroduce sleepcycles, blablabla.

Well, I too am glad that we aren't just giving up. Although in my opinion we have already won, due to the fact that jagex had to destroy the whole game in order to just slow us down a bit. :spot:

i never autoed for the fact of making money in rs. i donated tons of money here and there to several sites and its not a factor of the trading for me.

i am just really disappointed with their way of 'changing' pking, i mined to make money for my pker…now that my pker is finally of quality, 60 1 75 and 52 prayer and 60 ranged…they bust out this update

i tried the Bounty Hunter and got raped in 20 seconds by lvl 90+ armys that hit double 20's with spec and 4 of them do so that 160+ damage and i dead in 1 round…

that is the only thing that disappoints me with this update…they should make the old wilderness back, may BH a minigame somewhere else, but incorporate some BH in wilderness…like only allow food, pots, weapons and armour into the wilderness and if you have cash or anything like that have them not allow you to cross that damn wilderness wall

EDIT: This really pisses me off, just died again by level 90's! damnit….when i end up comming back to this community and scripting again, this will make me just make me make GREATER scripts to beat jagex

Well the SRL community is one of those targeted. However, we definitely aren't the primary target. Its those level 3-4 power cutters etc, compared to those we are the dust of the sand pile. If they actually put the monsters and mechanisms in to stop the lvl 3-4 autoers that would stop at least 80% of their target.

For example a monster in the area that can actually 3-4 hit them, but is only like level 5ish or so, so won't attack those 10+. (some one mentioned this I know)
Or do what we have had a script to do already. Use one guy that sits there and reports the level 3-4s switch worlds once done and does it again. And they could go much more in-depth with this concept. IE send a message to them, if they don't answer correctly then ban them on the spot. (with appeal option for those actually legit).

I'm sure there is many more possibilities but they serious are very light on banning people allowing this to get out of hand. In the end they had to do some thing like this to stop it.

All in all, its not skill oriented autoing now as mentioned. Hopefully I can manage to commit to this and not lose interest in the game otherwise I'll probably fall back to WoW or start a new game.

From: tarajunky
There is already one script here that would work around the system, I think.

IIRC, Rune Mule would log in every 30 minutes, claim runes, and then trade them to a mule account.

Each of these trades would pass under the 3k limit, but you could be doing this on multiple accounts 24/7.

I think it would be worth trying out a system like this for long periods of time to see how detectable it really is.

3k every 15 minutes adds up to 300k per day.

also another possibility would be just to do your money making and such miner or wc then get the cash onto the armies…then make a merchanting script that will log in players and trade every 15 minutes and have a different player login to trade each time…just a thought for those that are worried about money transfering…you could have 1 army make money 1 day while another trades, and then switch have the army that made money transfer the next day , that may be pretty detectable though b/c you would always have 1 bank acc logging in and out….

we will find a way to beat this even if it does take time to do so, still im pisssed about this pking issue

EDIT: damnit again…step in for 10 sec and dead..that is 3 ddp++ in the last 20 minutes

I am not leaving either ;)

I just use (mostly) single player scripts on my new main/pure (my caver, chicken killers, stuff like that) and ChopYBank (doesn't give cash, but gives exp ;))

I auto mostly on my main, so this really is good news for me,
I only use the best quality scripts I can access, such as King's catherby fisher, or Hy's cave runner, so no bannage.
I'll love getting these new improved scripts.

Well, thanks for the ride, SRL. It was fun while it lasted. I autoed mostly to try to keep up with the other autoers, and I've noticed that they are mostly gone now (didn't notice any baldy woodchoppers running around in Lumby today in F2P–amazing), so I don't need to do it anymore. It was also neat to beat the system too, but now I'll focus on finding the best ways of skilling and making gp in the new RS system without autoing.

Awesome, really didn't expect us to give up. Although they won a battle, the war is not over. I'm definitely gonna redouble my efforts to create quality scripts and learn amazing SRL scripting :).

From: Markus
Three things we can do
1. Find a way around the 3K limit
3k limit in trading? how do we trade whips then…?
Pretty hard to do, and well, they'll patch it.
2. Only auto for XP
No $ for us, but good XP, as we take banking out of our scripts
3. Single player approach
One player (main), auto more on it, reintroduce sleepcycles, blablabla.

1: 3k limit in trading? how do we trade whips then…?
2: Only auto for XP, i get that…
3: Single player approach
One player (main), auto more on it, reintroduce sleepcycles, blablabla. What!?!?! auto on our mains.? why would we do that..?

From: rikjess
i was waiting for you to tell us how where going to continue.
when you posted that link to a other game i thought. ''fakawi gave up to?''


as they said, its a battle, and imo they haven't win him yet.

yes,, the script will start beeing more quality cause we have to changed our style. but does this basically mean we'll continue on our mains and stuff? or do we focus our self to find a way around that new 3k system? and multi play.

oh trust me they are going to win the rwt battler. just not the srl battle

From: Markus
Three things we can do
1. Find a way around the 3K limit
Pretty hard to do, and well, they'll patch it.
2. Only auto for XP
No $ for us, but good XP, as we take banking out of our scripts
3. Single player approach
One player (main), auto more on it, reintroduce sleepcycles, blablabla.

Well I think $ will still have something to do with it. After all we just dont want to shell out of our pockets to pay for members do we? As I have said before $ will be a factor for me and many other people. My idea is still to auto and bank goods. After all how will those people that "dont have time" to earn gp going to get there gp? They will need to just buy an account with gp on it. But they arnt just going to buy a lvl 3 since that isnt possible anymore there going to want to buy a main. Well I am saying this

I am going to auto for $ and I will donate that $ here, after I pay for members on my army. So I am going to sell parts of my army off every now and again for some $.

But the thing is people are always going to want to get ahold of gp somehow. And people arnt going to stop buying accounts. They are simply going to have to pay up with $.

So I am here to stay!!!

From: Timer
1: 3k limit in trading? how do we trade whips then…?

You tell me, we need a way to get around the 3K limit.

From: Timer

3: Single player approach
One player (main), auto more on it, reintroduce sleepcycles, blablabla. What!?!?! auto on our mains.? why would we do that..?

To make some cash?

I just realized this. I can make another script a chopper and burner, chop then burn. How wonderful. This all poped into my head since some poeple will just be autoing for XP.

I don't know if Jagex knows this, but their up-coming updates are really to OUR advantage.

SCAR is by far the most reliable and undetectable autoing tool available. Safe to use on main-accounts.

RSDemon and iBot were only level 3 accs to get money for mains around the globe, and now they can't earn anything.
And because of the ban rate on RSD and iBot, they don't dare to use it on their mains. But we do. We are undetectable. I honestly believe, that Jagex can't dissect us from real players.

I didn't get here because of money, but I'm making a fair share. I love scripting more than pixels, and that's still my reason for staying.

Glad to see Fawk showing to the public that we still are alive.

I gave my Catherby Fisher 110% percent of myself, but it won't end here! Future script will be 200% percent. ATLEAST 5 hours on each account (Not counting unsolvable randoms).

-Knives

Yes I agree. I am not going to auto on my main. Dont want to risk it getting banned any more. But I am making new mains. Which I have said I am going to sell for $ and donate some $ here. But Yes I believe you can auto on your main just choose very carefully upon what scripts you are going to use.

EDIT: If we are going to auto on our mains we will need to work on the randoms. Every human can solve the maze random. We should be able too.

Wizzup is correct, what he meant by 'the key' is that now Jagex is looking on shop prices. 3k is actually a wide range for many autoed goods (Coal, Yews, Runes, Lobsters) so we actually gained ground on that pathetic update.
Poor Jagex, such a simple company.
On Christmas I am releasing two scripts. The World 16 Air Runner (By John and Jane Krawl) and The Summoner's Air Crafter (By John Krawl).

From: JackLKrawl

On Christmas I am releasing two scripts. The World 16 Air Runner (By John and Jane Krawl) and The Summoner's Air Crafter (By John Krawl).

arnt they the same thing??? :P lol look forward to them.. as of the update, now ive thought about it, i dont think its too bad,ok pking was a complete fuck up, but otherwise not many autoed goods exceed 3k per item so thats not soo bad.. ok drop trading has gone.. but so…

~Spaz

The way I interpreted it was that you could only trade a 3k+or- of the market value of the entire set of goods you are trading. So really there isnt much of a point in trading items to your main. Unless they are raw materials which you can make into more valuable goods.

Way to discourage generosity.

? wat was the poem thing for? spam or dissing fakawi?? lol cos that would be a bad move :P hehe

Found this quite funny

T'was two weeks before Christmas, and all through Runescape Not a player had known what would soon be their fate. The updates were posted on the website with care, In hopes that all players would like what was there. I logged onto Runescape and what did I see? Four new updates were listed, Wonder what they could be? Real world trading is bad, its evil they say A new Jagex fight against cheaters today! Real money for gold, their raking in lots. Kill all the autoers, kill all the bots! Removing unbalanced trades, *What the heck is that? Means all those merchants will never get their phat! Farewell birthday gifts, no more helping a friend. No more running nats, *Just where will it end? This 1st post was painful, yet I just pressed through. But I held my breath as I opened number 2. Trade and drop changes, seems like lots of chatter. I clicked on the link to see what was the matter. 3k gold pieces is now the trade limit. No more getting Barrows, unless millions are in it Drop parties are out, drop transfers are too. A gravestone is left if a Fire Giant kills you. No more getting rich when a noob makes a mistake. Those items are no longer yours for the take. I could not believe, in what was to be With an unsteady hand, I clicked post number 3. Wilderness changes? Please say its not so! Revenant ghosts? Now thats a low blow! Bounty Hunter, Bounty Hunter, Why is it multi? If you go solo, you surely will die. I PKd for a living, I guess thats now done. Jagex, you ruined it, its no longer fun. No more PKing, no more easy dough. No more Runescape, looks like its time to go If you liked this post, and I hope that you might. Copy and paste it, LETS PUT UP A FIGHT! We can get our Wildy back, if we all stick together. If Jagex don't listen, we'll all quit FOREVER

From the ruinscape forums

From: spaztaz666
arnt they the same thing??? :P lol look forward to them.. as of the update, now ive thought about it, i dont think its too bad,ok pking was a complete fuck up, but otherwise not many autoed goods exceed 3k per item so thats not soo bad.. ok drop trading has gone.. but so…

~Spaz

They do close to the same thing, but I had to go to a less-desirable way to make the World 16 Air Runner, because the road was always filled w/ white, Summoner's will also have a better 'performance' because it doesn't have to interact so much.
You'll just have to see for yourself, but I haven't gotten Summoner's to work perfectly yet.

100% with you. bye leachers…… ITS TIME FOR A NEW BATTLE. THE BATTLE OVER THE WORLD OF RUNESCAPE

We will survive, maybe not on runescape but will may move to another game.

putting all your effort in 1 char sounds like a lot of fun. definitely something new for us

bring on the challenge i say!

10th December I woke up,
Drank my choco, washed the cup,
Opened the window , And what do I see?
My ugly neighbour , Screaming at me :
"They Ruined RuneScape" he said , cried and ran
I turned on my PC , Like a real man
Opened my browser, turned off my TV
And suddenly on my homepage, What do I see?

"RuneScape vs Real-world Trading " I began to read
Sicker and sicker I am starting to feel
"Wilderness changes" maybe it's not as bad as it seemed
This must be a joke, this can NOT be real

Understanding what my friend was talking about
I logged on the forum, and started to shout!
Why Jagex? Why have you done this to me?
Destroyed the thing I love, yet can you see
How much Time we have wasted, we are no longer free

I Wanted to kill, but I couldn't PK,
I lost my merchanting, whats the point to play?
Duel Arena stinks, the Grand Exchange is a bore,
Jagex you yet again, fail us once more.

Why are messages hidden, Jagex are you scared?
Do you feel that the truth, is something not bared?
Or do you want to lose your members more then ever,
Because you have ruined this game, for now, and for ever.

You can remove our posts, and keep us quiet,
But when it goes down, there will always be riot
Rants upon rants, people throw their fits,
Until this day came, now its time to call it quits.

I know the rhymes, might mistake, but can't you see?
It's Jagex! Please do not blame it on me!
If you thought , that the Poem is great
Post it again, and we might yet change our Fate!

I hope they change it back :(

There is no reason for SRL to die now. This is probably one of the greatest challenges ever given to us. And I'm gonna stand on SRL's side.

We are the only Autoing-tool left for RS which is safe to use on main accounts, as long as you remember to use the right scripts.

Now we must show strength! This is going to be the hardest and biggest war - and we shall win as we won the last one. Jagex doomed themself with the ridiculous updates, which also showed us that they were too blind and weak to make a working effort.

-Knives

I'm not going anywhere. Granted I have only just joined these forums, but I really want to learn SCAR scripting, hopefully, what I know in java will make it easier :)

Cheers!

From: Widget
It was a battle, but then once Jagex realized they couldn't win, they nuked the entire place just so real-world traders wouldn't be able to either, and took out everyone else with it

yes that seems to hold true.

but i think further updates of RS will present it's opportunity to us.

From: aran armath
Yes I agree. I am not going to auto on my main. Dont want to risk it getting banned any more. But I am making new mains. Which I have said I am going to sell for $ and donate some $ here. …

Those who say they are going to sell accounts apparently don't understand this update. You won't be able to do unbalanced trades, which means you won't be able to sell accounts. Unless you're willing to sell an account for 3k! [Edit: my bad, i wasn't paying attention–you said for real world $, not gp]

From: srl user
Those who say they are going to sell accounts apparently don't understand this update. You won't be able to do unbalanced trades, which means you won't be able to sell accounts. Unless you're willing to sell an account for 3k! :p

I think they're saying sell accounts for real world cash. Like $20 Paypal for your lvl 80 miner with 5 mil on him. New people could buy these accounts to use as mains. Not that I'm planning to do it, but there could be a market for it.

From: tarajunky
I think they're saying sell accounts for real world cash. Like $20 Paypal for your lvl 80 miner with 5 mil on him. New people could buy these accounts to use as mains. Not that I'm planning to do it, but there could be a market for it.

What I said. I know there will be a market for accounts. But in the past when you buy an account there would likely be nothing on them, but now they will have cash since there is no way to transfer the items and gold to another account. This is the way I found of still autoing runescape.

Hah, hai SRL!

I decided to come back to srl after not playing RS for a while. I came back one week ago, just in time for them to start ruining things! YAY!

So, once again I'm turning away from legit playing.

I'll be here, scripting badly, learning and showing jagex just how autoing is meant to be, invisible. :p



This does provide a lot of opportunity to us, especially if they begin to think that autoing has stopped.

Well, I'm off to resurrect some old scripts and dust off my pascal skills. Caio

Once I have time, I'll start working on some sexy script now that this sexy challenge is here.=]

This is just GREAT for me :). Now i will have time to focus on learning scripting and become an SRL member :). Plus, since i auto SOLELY on my main, the new scripts will likely be to my advantage. Auto on your mains i say!

Im in total agreement with you, the update will lead to people gaining more from the game itself and not purely seeking profit. The only upset for me is that im now restricted to autoing on my main and no longer have the security of transferring items over. Auto responsibily :p

Edit: It has also killed the millions of level 3 bots that infested the free worlds

I agree whit the thing that SRL is not dead, we have to make good and safe scripts to run with our mains, i have been running Masterkills pestcontroller on my main and no problems ;)

Looking further on making a fighter script…

That's it. I am going to read all the tuts my brain can handle.

This is where the men get separated from the boys.

Those who leave are not a loss, they are not here for the art, skill and challenge.

This infact could present some fun and interesting new challenges.

We could just trade items in the Bounty Hunter… Let me explain

Use your macro army get iron or whatever. Then go buy rune scims on the grand exchange with it. Go to the bounty hunter and get killed by your lvl 55 pure (which u all beter have).

we could even make a SRL clan? to help us trade our own items without getting owned?

Edit: also i think we should make a GRAND auto-responder :) it would own… or we could write an ai… thatd be cool.

edit edit: we could make it learn from other peoples responses to questions.

From: Ruroken
This is where the men get separated from the boys.

Those who leave are not a loss, they are not here for the art, skill and challenge.

This infact could present some fun and interesting new challenges.

Total agreement. So can we move on now from the stage of "ohh no jagex ruined runescape"? If so then lets get back to work.

From: metagen
We could just trade items in the Bounty Hunter… Let me explain

Use your macro army get iron or whatever. Then go buy rune scims on the grand exchange with it. Go to the bounty hunter and get killed by your lvl 55 pure (which u all beter have).

we could even make a SRL clan? to help us trade our own items without getting owned?

In theory it would work but in game you'll get jumped by a clan and dead in the first 10 seconds your in the mini game. Ask Hypersecret, he had some nice and personal experience with it, it left him with a kinda warm feeling towards "Bounty Hunter". :p

Yeah when there's RS, there's SRL… But one thing made me think:

"Not while I'm around"

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Retired SRL Leader
King Black Dragon

:oops:?

he is not the official leader of srl^^ but actually he is. its just like with a child, even if it grew up, its still your child:)

fawki has been retired for a very long time now.

if only we could get his activity bar to drop a notch, lol.

oh, my rant about … idiots.
http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/showthread.php

hopefully they have snapped out of it.

we will never die =) i'll just auto my main stats now

And if we auto on our mains, ch00bs wont be like… err hes lvl 24 fishin sharks, report the autoer or, err these lvl 3 n00bs are cuttin wood… lets report them. every one of our mains will be a different uniq lvl and jagex wont know wats hit them!


All these ch00bs complaining about err jagex lost half there members, but the half of the population was mainly srl's money farmers anyway.

hmm just the beginnin, i think its about time i really learnt how to script and began truly contributing. I'm willing to spend the time to beat jagex at thier new updates. I also like the skilling idea, but i guess to get funding for our pures we would have to risk getting them banned if we were to auto on them

hi i have a main (he is muted) um and he is lvl 84… is it ok if i bot with him…?
i mean he can't talk so people can't report him… is there a random event breaker to make sure that every time i have a random event it gets it rit??? plz relp to answer my message!

think of this as a guide line, dont auto on mains

u can if u want but theres never a 100% guarantee that they wont be banned so take caution

~Spaz

i havnt been here long but it seems pretty cool, i hope to stick around a lot longer

i alrey figgured it out jist look at my previous poast

heh, i find it interesting how in the past i was just here for some free scripts but now that jagex is trying to kill autoing i have decided to actualy get involved as more then just a leech

I might be a really new member but I for one plan to stick around! You can do it!

i have autoed on my mains since i joined srl…all the way to my 85 mining now,and im gonna continue to do so.with a good autoresponder,i believe that scar will be undetectable

SRL is gonna keep head up :) !

Keep Head Up Fellows !
Because we are The Leaders Of Cheating
~Home

yes the new updates were all terrible, january is going to suck. but i agree, that srl is far from dead. runescape (jagex) will maybe never be able to stop auto programs, and srl has some of the best

oh yea its also sad they tooking pking away, but there is not much we can do there

oh does anyone know of a good auto fisher? i really need one please answer

I am with everyone, this will only show who is here for the challenge and fun, and who is here just for some quick rsgp. I am in 200%! I am learning scripting very fast and plan on releasing a first script soon. Hope fully I can get good and help you guys beat this challenge. Actually I think on this as a good thing, we haven't had a good challenge in awhile, time to show Jagex what's up!

From: Tepaz
Good to hear

keep on spamming…

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16690

Only time will tell if this is a good or bad thing. It kinda makes me mad that they are nuking the whole game just to stop autoers. Even though they know that it will certainly not destroy us.

in truth they are nukeing the whole game to get rid of RTWers, it just happens to be tha tthier main tool has always been bots but that is just something that those of us who bot for the pure shits and giggles we get from botting will have to deal with.

either we will stop boting for the quick rsgp and bot simply to continue to stick it to jagex or we will start haveing disposable mains. in all honesty who here would find it hard to replace(skillwise) thier main by the end of a month?

It looks like we must simply make the best of things, nomatter what Jagex tries to pull.

I'm glad to hear this I'm a new member to SRL. My wife plays RS and had me turned on to this and I'm a Navy man so my thought is work smarter not harder. So once I play and learn I'll try and share what i can with everyone the site.
-Steffen

i totaly agree. this update will weed out alot of leechers, and it will force those dedicated to make scripts that dont put their mains at risk. i am only just getting into scripting, but i started it as a hobby, not realy to make money, or even lvl, but just a challenge. this update may seem huge now, but im sure other updates tht are easy to get around today, at one time threatened the idea of cheating rs. this will just make the communty of those who dont quit stronger.

From: monkeyboob
in truth they are nukeing the whole game to get rid of RTWers, it just happens to be tha tthier main tool has always been bots but that is just something that those of us who bot for the pure shits and giggles we get from botting will have to deal with.

either we will stop boting for the quick rsgp and bot simply to continue to stick it to jagex or we will start haveing disposable mains. in all honesty who here would find it hard to replace(skillwise) thier main by the end of a month?

me… 99 attack and strength… workin on defence now
all from mr hy71194's fight caver ;)

i am a lvl 115+ main and i auto consistantly (been doin so for 3-4 months).. like 20 out of 24 hours a day

Still 0 bm's :o

From: spaztaz666
im with u fakawi.. hope not too many people will leave because of this update

~Spaz

If pplz won't quit because of that update ppl will quit cuz of the wilderness removal.. But hey.. Haxxors will survive every battle.. We Own :sasmokin:

Good Speech !
There are still someways to trade gp , but they are dangerous .

From: HyperSecret

they should make the old wilderness back, may BH a minigame somewhere else, but incorporate some BH in wilderness…like only allow food, pots, weapons and armour into the wilderness and if you have cash or anything like that have them not allow you to cross that damn wilderness wall

Good idea, but then they would just go and say 'buying d med 300k' or s/t and then he buys for 300k, goes to wildy, dies, gets his mule to grab it, and then just sells it but also, about bein behind the wildy wall is a problem, theyll have to make like a safe so u cant use tele grab while out of the wildy:D

Edit: dude.. I dont know if thats spam but dont do that again.. and mods plz edit this out if this is back seat modding

What measures is Jagex going through to slow SRL exactly; I know about the 3k trading thing but what else?

Also, what measures are SRL taking to counteract this self-nuking of RS by Jagex?

This is probably the dummest thing jagex could have done to runescape ROFL XD
Didn't they say something like: "If we don't completely stop this now, the bots will eventually become Undetecable!"
Well, that's exactly what they are forcing us to do, by making it impossible for our armies to work for our main, they are litterally forcing us to make scripts which are worthy to be run on our mains. Like Fakawi already said, this is a new era, in which our scripts will surpass all limitations, and also eventually max out our mains in a few categories, because we are forced to use them on them if we want to have an impressive character.
In fact, this has destroyed all those autoers that broke the rules, by autoing at lvl 3 and in default clothes, so it is a good change overall.
There might be some frustration, because all of our multiplayer scripts turned useless, I felt the very same for a few minutes, because i could scrap my entire tutorial island runner, which i have been working on for about 4 months now and was almost finished, but heck, it gave me some much needed experience in scripting, which i will now put to use in order to learn the more advanced stuff, and eventually, maybe, create an undetectable script. So, we should just forget about how things were, and how we would like them to be, and face the things how they are, and with full determination and make the best out of this!

good on ya fawk!

I've loved SRL for so long! I've autoed every night for the past 7 months. (almost) and I love every minute of it!

Man, I have a question. Have we lost? No because there is no loss. They have only limited us to stop RWT. Has Jagex lost? Yes, they lost money, members and the economy (really unstable atm). Why don't we just make our accounts "legit" for now until the heat is off and then auto. Think about it. We can over through the economy! We can be the kings of RuneScape. We can make people think were legit and auto at night. I know these thoughts are weird but I'm just throwing ideas onto the table. Very nice speech fawk.

woah nice speeches everyone. I thought autoing was dead after the update but now I think otherwise.

Nice speech man nice speech. I was thinking of quiting autoing once and for all but now i see the light. Its time to show the bastards at fagex that we will not be destroyed and we will not be defeated, cause we're pimps :f:

Lets bring down this update piece by piece until the bitches are left crying in their bosses lap. It's time for an srl-forums overhaul. We're going to get through this as a community. Just shows you who is loyal here and who isn't.

Happy hunting from Aus
startroop

EDIT: Just by the way thanks to all the tut writers and all the high level members in this community who have kept this thing together. Now its our turn, as a community.

wow i really thought this would all be stop now, well done

I'm in it for the pure fun and joy of training skills.
Was never for the money.
Jagex doesnt understand that most of us are just having fun,
we never bothered anyone.
Maybe had better skills, but we definately didn't rub it in.
They should just go about different ways to stop real world trading
instead of ruining The entirety of the game itself.

Yeh Fagex keeps on ruining and ruining the game… whats their point? are they tired of making money?? there were macros that were members….so what the hell is wrong with them? most of us autoers are members too, and we dont bother anybody as the guy above me said , its boring like to keep on clicking rocks for years to get 99 mining , while its fun and faster to auto it with some like JuKKa's Guild Miner, we dont get stressed , dont waste our lifes in front of a screen clicking rock by rock…. as someone said, the games are for having fun , not to become boring and pointless, we just level up with a little…BIG help so whats their problem , do they want to end up with no job at all? well….I guess not so they shouldnt be ruining the game anymore but fixing it…:p:D

I would never even think of leaving this awesome community

Neither would I , this rock's there is a lot of Awsome programmers here , I wanna become one too :p im learning to program yet, so in some months ill be doing a script for this awsome community and hopefully applying to become a srl member, hehehe :D

From: dracody
Neither would I , this rock's there is a lot of Awsome programmers here , I wanna become one too :p im learning java so in some months ill be doing a script for this awsome community and hopefully applying to become a srl member, hehehe :D

lol, java?

Thanks for the update.

Yeah, is there anything wrong with that?? if there is just let me know , because so far I have seen Java and Scar languages are very very similar… so why do you say that?

well, java is considered a teaching language. even though it doesn't have many practical applications which will earn you money (exception runescape), the skills found in java can be transferred to higher level programming languages. it's good that you are so enthusiastic about learning.

i really dont like the new updates but since srl and autoing are still here, ill stick with it

hopefully we will see it through :D

SRL lives on!

Yes, indeed, more skills=more money!

From: nhstarter10
Well, I too am glad that we aren't just giving up. Although in my opinion we have already won, due to the fact that jagex had to destroy the whole game in order to just slow us down a bit. :spot:

i agree
jagex did destroy the game
even though theyre making adjustments to out likeing
it would be way better the way it was before

I auto mostly on my main, so this really is good news for me,
I only use the best quality scripts I can access, such as King's catherby fisher, or Hy's cave runner, so no bannage.
I'll love getting these new improved scripts.

Those lvl 3 macronoob realworldtraders always kind of annoyed me. Sometimes it seemed that they far outnumbered people who actually play the game.

It doesnt work if you have multi-accounts?? You can ALSO RECEIVE max 3000 gp /15 min.. But Jagex doesnt understand the economy in RS i think..

srl will never die!!!!!!!

Why auto w/o any challenge?

It is not the challenge that disappeared, but the money that people could make with RuneScape cheating.

If you pretend that RWT is a disease in rs2 his legs, he cut it off and now they can't heal to 100% anymore :D

From: Wizzup?
It is not the challenge that disappeared, but the money that people could make with RuneScape cheating.

I meant that the challenge in RWT is just good.

Good stand up post, im just getting into the macroing business tho, and im pretty interested on it.

We gotta admit, Jagex is smart, hehe…but thats where the fun is, going around them. :D

How would we manage to get around that 3K rule anyways? For the F2P players, we can't up it like members supposedly can, so that kills that idea, and i dunno about you guys, but certainly don't want to risk my level 80 Account and have to build him up Again

no matter what jagex does,there will always be autoers not necessarily for money but the exp and levels you can get from it.im hoping jagex stops looking for a while so we can get some good exp

it is good that srl lives

yes it is very good
srl is great when im bored i sometimes read the forums it cant leave… i will be sad…

From: shro0ms
we will never die =) i'll just auto my main stats now

Well, your last post was on 01-12-2008, 11:20 AM. Did you give up?

For exampe i am making 3 80 lvl rangers for bh with scar right now.
The quality of scripts has improved a lot and i can be 90% shure that i will not get ban. That's very good i think :) I think that in next few years scripts will become undetectible and it will solve all randoms.

on your mains, over time you must have accumulated hundreds of k worth of items… in junk that YOU CAN'T SELL. well…. why not make an autoer and give it to them in exchange for logs ore or just straight cash. Summoning scrolls…. who uses those? no one. sell those to your noob account in exchange for pure cash. those reeeeeeaaaally hard to find items and just as frustating to sell items, sell them to your noob. stock up on charcoal to scam people or some other useless item before the damnable trade limit came in?? check the grand exchange i gaurantee you, you can make a shiny penny off of that junk on your pure.



99 summoning impossible? blasphemy. sell your scrolls to your noob and make back 10x more than you had before. you set your autoers to play while you sleep and are at school or work…. come back and do a little summoning, turn those pouches into scrolls and sell them to your rich rich rich pure skill account. what have you to lose? a few worthless scrolls no one in there right minds would buy anyways.


:sasmokin: ice l0rd22:sasmokin:

From: Wizzup?
It is not the challenge that disappeared, but the money that people could make with RuneScape cheating.

truer words of wisdom have never been spoken.




:sasmokin: Ice L0rd22:sasmokin:

I'm sure this will be completely irrelevant to the topic considering I'm replying to what was said at the thread's start and we're three pages in.

I wanted to acknowledge the fact that I haven't seen a community of such high standards since RSCN many years ago.

I may have a wallowed in the darkness for sometime now, popping in at odd intervals, but from here on out I'm joining the army.

We as cheaters unite, and united we are one, and as one we will conquer!

EDIT: I guess I haven't been here as long as I thought xD Although my join date says otherwise, I've been lurking around SRL for sometime now, I can guarantee you that.

Hooray for SRL, we shall fight on!

its good to know that srl will be around for a while yet. grinding for skills is just no fun

jagex are becoming quite annoying with these little fetures they add such as the 3k limmit they are makeing ppl hate the game r dey stupid??:sasmokin:

I auto on my main on 101 to 92 wcing never got caught then gave to my friend.
Autoing on my 105 now with firemaking still not banned.
Seriously scar is great and jagex just sucks at catching autos.
Btw autoing on your main is a advantage…noobs think u just don't want to talk to them.

From: alberttai
I auto on my main on 101 to 92 wcing never got caught then gave to my friend.
Autoing on my 105 now with firemaking still not banned.
Seriously scar is great and jagex just sucks at catching autos.
Btw autoing on your main is a advantage…noobs think u just don't want to talk to them.

I recommend not using those pictures in your signature. Everyone who uses 'view image' will be able to view your rs name.

From: Wizzup?
I recommend not using those pictures in your signature. Everyone who uses 'view image' will be able to view your rs name.

i removed them thanks.
:)

Glad to hear SRL will still be active.

All Hail SRL!

From: knights870
I think this could be a huge improvement for SRL. The leechers only care about money and if that option is gone then most aren't willing to risk their mains. The ones who care and want to script and want to be part of all this will remain though. Less people will be looking for macros now though since they think that money making is impossible. This will leave just the few who truly are out to learn something and that will make the scripts worth risking your mains for.

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LEECHER LEECHER LEECHER !!!!!!!!!!

hes got 1 post count and hes talking about leechers!
how does he even know there will be an improvement??? he hasnt been around to see anything different!!!

ive been thinking about the new graphic update to runescape.
the new look will be a challenge and theyre already added much more unique colors on several monsters and things. btw many colors of monsters has the same colors as,.,.,.,. maybe,.,.,., a sign, or a crate or some blood on the floor, all in all: hidden colors that prevent us of cheating.
now there isnt 3k limit (i got 83 quest points and my limit is 8.200gp)

From: shrubie1
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LEECHER LEECHER LEECHER !!!!!!!!!!

hes got 1 post count and hes talking about leechers!
how does he even know there will be an improvement??? he hasnt been around to see anything different!!!

for all u know he maybe got an older acc on srl and found out that his forum name got same name as his runescape username, or his friend told him about srl, or he have just been reading alot on the forums…

These changes to runescape will sure piss us off. If it hasnt already.
But more importantly itll motivate some of us to push our limits.
Srl will be forever so let them try to flush us out.

BECAUSE WE ARE 300!!! we are SPARTA!!!!!!!

crazy!!

From: WT-Fakawi
As some of you might now, I have been…

(now should be know)?just saying…

umm i think it would be helpful if you say which updates your talking about…is this the "better graphics" update?? or is this back with the GE update? anyway good i guess, keep spirits high, but i dont think rs main reason was to stop cheating, i think it was about improving game quality….but if this is about the GE update, wow am i late, and yea, it was to stop cheating…but made the game worse..

Could you transfer between accounts by finding a world with like nobody on it late at night, and dropping items into the party room with autoer on SMART, and then have your main up at same time in another SMART window (or regular rs window) and simply grabbing the dropped items?

Another idea is to get your two accounts up at the same time and go to bounty hunter and let one of them kill the other, then I guess just run around and hope that your penalty runs out before you get killed.

Or perhaps (this is sort of like the 3k per 15 minute idea) just make enough army soldiers to the point where you can continue recieving 3k over and over and over continuously and just have enough to the point of when you're done with the long line of trading autoers it will have been 15 minutes and you can start over, thus recieving 3k continuously.

jagex is not going to win this war, i hypothesise..

yeah, no chance.

From: Psychor
I'm with you about not giving up. Only thing that worries me is that too many RS members will leave and they shut down the servers. F2P doesn't pay the bills.

actually, i expect they get quite decent ad revenue from all the f2p players… Why dont they just make it free and throw in some in game advertising. i.e. BEER is not longer BEER but some brand name and RAW CHICKEN is not longer that but lillydale or some shit.

.

so i thought i might throw this out there but im guessing the new graphics update which i am witnessing right now changes things?

A question here, how long will it take for you guys to update SRL? With all this new GFX, its probably going to take months.

ha they do months of work to stop us and we in a few days will have already over come this

A question here, how long will it take for you guys to update SRL? With all this new GFX, its probably going to take months.

Are you serious? "All this new GFX" - all they changed that will affect us are logon, and logging out, options tab and now it goes automatically to High Detail and you have to switch to Low Detail.

jagex are idiots the do stuf like take out trading and wildy and think that that is gunna make it better no one like it mmore

they try to hard they need to take a step back and see what they all have in common

lvl 3-10 1 high lvl skill online for long periods of time dont talk

etc etc etc

If Jagex really wanted to stop us then they should just get rid of Runescape be cause it's gonna be nigh impossible to catch out botters forever!

I want you guys to know that we all are thankful for the scripters that will now have to work even harder to make good scripts regardless of the update.

I know for sure that i'm gonna stay, but so far i do not know much about how to script. So if maybe the really good scripters could teach the incredibly stupid ones like me we can make it through just fine. The more people who know how to script the more of a chance we have.

This was for the wilderness / trade update… :p

for the people with no idea how to script visit the tut in my sig to get started


was it really wizz

They can't get rid of me, I'm HIV.

From: whiebris
so i thought i might throw this out there but im guessing the new graphics update which i am witnessing right now changes things?

yeah alot of stuff :P;)

In all honesty, I skipped half this topic because I tend to do that to topics I find late. I was too ecstatic about the new update yesterday to check up on SRL.

A lot of you seem to think that the 3k trade update was completely aimed to stop hackers just because they "ruin the game," etc.

However, there were actually justifiable reasons for Jagex to do this.

The main reason for all these Level 3-4 woodcutters and bots was to make money to sell in real life. The way these people could afford to make so many member accounts was because they were stealing credit card numbers. The credit card companies noticed that a lot of the stolen money was going to Jagex and they threatened to drop Jagex. This is not to mention that Jagex had to pay back the money stolen along with some 200% interest.

In other words, Jagex was spiraling downwards (RuneScape would have died) and the only way to solve it was to either implement a trade limit or cut off payment by credit card. They couldn't do the latter due to credit card being more than a majority of all the membership payment methods.

That was the reason for the 3k trade limit. The only possible way to transfer to my knowledge is through Bounty Hunter, although I have no tried as I'm very paranoid of any situation where I can lose items.

i'll try helping srl to make new bitmaps of very much things

wow this whole update really blows but since i usually auto on my main and i am learning to script because i like the challenge it doesnt really matter for me cuz ive never really been one of those rich people anyway lol :D

Good to hear SRL will not just give up

From: Ghostman
Good to hear SRL will not just give up

Give up? Why would SRL give up?

They haven't given up before.. so why start now? :)

If you build it, I will post proggies ;]

From: mercvii
If you build it, I will post proggies ;]

Like a true leecher does….

Anyway people the New Srl will be out sometime next week. There are some temp fixes in the public test corner… Some things such as Fishing spots will not be updated until the next rev comes out

YAY can't wait to auto again !

From: strikerx25
Like a true leecher does….

<SNIP>

gotta start somewhere eh?

great to here that we won't let jagex keep us down

From: Markus
Three things we can do
1. Find a way around the 3K limit
Pretty hard to do, and well, they'll patch it.
2. Only auto for XP
No $ for us, but good XP, as we take banking out of our scripts
3. Single player approach
One player (main), auto more on it, reintroduce sleepcycles, blablabla.

there already is a way around that 3k system. example u want to transfer like 300k. you buy 10k fire runes, then go to less populated world at nigth, when its like 50 ppls in lowest world, and you put in for 49997gp fire runes so bankers wont call for a drop. you do this 6 times, and you transfer 300k :). Another way is with BH, you come with items, damage down more than half hp, get out of bh, and suicide with that char with less than half hp and items, when he dies you quickly get in bh and collect all the stuff :). Never tryed this one with bh, but ppl say it works. :). another way is to buy lots of Green Dragonhide chaps witch is under 3k and drop somewhere where noone less would come. For multi-logging acc use mozzila+I.E. :)

whoo team power!! we need to beat jagex

Well SGT, we've actually already beaten them up :)
New graphics -> 10 days work for Devs -> 3 months for Jackex
New bank -> 3 hours for devs -> 14 days work for Jackex

Well, we sure have beaten them up… now it's time for level 3. Lv1 was… well it was nothing. Lv 2 was the introduction of some randoms, and basic detection software, Lv 3 is the "advanced" randoms, a simple change of organization, and the restricted trading.

We beated them quit bad for them to result to that. Perhaps we would've been able to stay autoing like before, if some of us did not decide to profit off using bots. That's the main reason for the trade update (as Kold said earlier), and it actually does work… well, just slowed it down… ALOT.

So, in a sense we are beating them, and in another sense, we have also beaten ourselves.

Anyways, just my own personal opinion to this matter.

Yeah, SRL is good and will never go down.
Im still having trouble with the scripts but soon i should make some fairly decent ones. Srl will never go down!

Srl staying is a huge thing, it going is a huge disappointment.

And yes, we can still auto for money, and for exp =). just think creative.

dead not even close
ha i have always known how to make scripts just always use other pples then when the updates came i got thinking mabey this would be a start i have made one that workes but most ppel dont use it becouse of the w8 periods but at least it works with the new runescape i quite tring to make an essence miner i tried and tried but i only got as far as getting to the shop why didnt my scripts work i do not know so now i have a tut island one in making and no failures thistime i failed becouse of colors changing after protal if you can help on my essence miner we can make mining a breeze making

soon if we all do the smae thing just adjust and I can gurantee it we will be able to achieve anything also i am curently workign on a java script that will allow silent mouse to work i have been looking at runescapes code and theres many loop holes only a scripter like myselve could see and heres a big one for you there server provider!;)

around the trade limit…


drop party room in deserted worlds?

only trade in 30k of a time though, cos otherwise it shouts at the banks.


i got 300k onto my pure from main that way, in less than 1 hour.

From: Psychor
I'm with you about not giving up. Only thing that worries me is that too many RS members will leave and they shut down the servers. F2P doesn't pay the bills.

F2P is a complete lose to them, The adverts when you play, websites play lots for that, so when your a member, there is not need.

I am not leaving ever. SRL is not dead, we know that :D

From: mint25642
around the trade limit…


drop party room in deserted worlds?

only trade in 30k of a time though, cos otherwise it shouts at the banks.


i got 300k onto my pure from main that way, in less than 1 hour.

The bankers only shout if the drop is equal to or more than 50k, hence people use rune plates a lot, easier to get, but if people see you they can get the drop. That's why I use money instead. If you put 50k or more bankers announce and Party Petes counts all the way down from 99. If less than 50k he counts from 14 and no one announces.

I busted a lot of party drop while trying to do my own party drops =D.
I would be waiting in chest when some low level would log in, I would just log out wait 5 secs and log back in get plate log out lol. Got about 20 rune plates,12 rune scimmies,5 rune 2h and a lot of cash lol.

i throught srl and scar was dead when the new updates came on before this year so i quit came bak on like month a go and i couldnt go on srl so then i throught it was dead but i checked back again then wow its not dead

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS
:(h):

Thank god for bounty hunter, huh? :D

Well… I've been around this site for a fairly long time I've watched it evolve into what it is today. I'm glad to say I'm finally gonna try scripting for Rs2. I've only used scar to write scripts for RsC.

I know this doesn't have anything to do with this thread, but I figured I'd finally introduce myself after being a registered member of this site for… almost 2 years(had to check). :) Can't wait to read up about what exactly SRL can do.

i think it is good that we are staying and we should keep on fighting against fagex and we should keep on making better and better scripts for a long time yet

I agree to beating Jagex. If I can do anything to help make good scripts or help upgrade the SRL database, just ask. I'm not yet a good scripter but I can do other things to help untill I am.

jagex will never prevail in our rs domination! so i say! MARCH ONWARDS TO VICTORY MY FRIENDS!!!

I've just recently joined this community, and to me, it seems determined now. And this is way after the RuneScape updates against rwt. I've been trying to learn scripting, and looking at some of the free-for-all scripts. Now with the updates, everyone will have to make quality scripts, mostly for exp, not much banking or cash anymore. In a small way, the updates were for the better?

Ok first. Jagex already knows about SRL? they probably have mods searching for scripts so they can update RUnescape to piss us off (sorry for language but it IS frustrating when you have just learnt to script…:p) also…wondering WHEN SRL is back up will it be SMART AS WELL AS Non Smart (check my chicken Raper for a example of Non smart….also for person asking…you have to earn ureself to become more then a "chicken" you have to be found worhty/contribute to the FOrums…read a few tutorials if you get lost :) Gl Wt-Fawaki/Rest of SRL members.

This is a minor wound to the arm for us, it is just a matter of finding a way around Jagex and their "improvements." It is obvious they are scared of us, or they would not have unleashed this update. We just need to clean up our scripts a bit, fool-proof them, ready our keyboards, and terrorize Jagex till dawn!!!

Scripters… Tonight, we dine, in OUR BASEMENTS!!!!

From: david493
I'm staying no need to worry bout me.

Don't worry, I wasn't. (h)

this is almost a year ago…

Skills is the reason im starting to cheat, hundreds of hours of my time spent at the computerscreen for what… to be ridicled by the level 20's for not giving them cash…

Srl Shal Prevail!

Nice soo SRL is good to GO i assume;)

From: Rikje
i was waiting for you to tell us how where going to continue.
when you posted that link to a other game i thought. ''fakawi gave up to?''


as they said, its a battle, and imo they haven't win him yet.

yes,, the script will start beeing more quality cause we have to changed our style. but does this basically mean we'll continue on our mains and stuff? or do we focus our self to find a way around that new 3k system? and multi play.

I completely agree with this.

Great.. Rsbot 2 is going to be out though. So you will have competition :P

I still have fun with scar without making money.
It's all about the skilling to me.

They may have knocked us down, but we are not out.

you can still xfer througth bh its pretty easy in my opinion
they cant remove autoing,RWTing out of a game, there will ALWAYS
be ways to RWT

Can we just lock this. It is the most gravedug topic…

Just a question, how do you get xBank and xMapWalk?