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If the FBI searched your Computer..


Sin

2013-03-27 17:53:13

If the FBI searched your computer RIGHT now, no chance to delete anything, how screwed would you be?

They'd find Adobe shit, booter source, Sony vegas, illegal programs.. etc :S

NKN

2013-03-27 17:55:20

Here we go.


11 bot nets.
2 booters
1 crypter
Neptune
BlackShades
Crypter
Facebook Phishing
Adobe Flash
Adobe Aftereffects
Xsplit
Adobe Photoshop CS5 and CS6
Mount&Blade
I Am Alive
Dishonoured
Black Ops 2
Mark of the Ninja
My runescape client
Deadspace


And that's about it

Nebula

2013-03-27 17:57:45

they'd find lots of porn :3

not srs

Silentcore

2013-03-27 18:02:29

On my pc they will find:

1. Photoshop
2. Simba and Epicbot
3. Gold4Fun full info of company + names + real adress + wages.
4. Pokemon pictures, lol.
5. 25+ movies I downloaded
6. 3K + songs
7. Pictures of art/museum/travel

masterBB

2013-03-27 18:03:24

Let's start with… wait a second, are you a cop?

Sin

2013-03-27 18:04:06

From: masterBB
Let's start with… wait a second, are you a cop?


:).

Gala

2013-03-27 18:10:13

Attention, we have some uber hackers here with booters and "advanced rats" like bshades. (And 11 botnets rofl)

@topic
not at all, FBI can't do anything in this country (I hope) :P

Justin

2013-03-27 18:11:10

From: NKN
Here we go.


11 bot nets.
2 booters
1 crypter
Neptune
BlackShades
Crypter
Facebook Phishing
Adobe Flash
Adobe Aftereffects
Xsplit
Adobe Photoshop CS5 and CS6
Mount&Blade
I Am Alive
Dishonoured
Black Ops 2
Mark of the Ninja
My runescape client
Deadspace


And that's about it


Watch out, we have a skiddie here

Gala

2013-03-27 18:12:45

From: Justin
Watch out, we have a skiddie here


yep.

senrath

2013-03-27 18:14:28

I've never understood the desire to brag on a publicly accessible website about the illegal stuff you're doing.

NKN

2013-03-27 18:16:45

From: Justin
Watch out, we have a skiddie here


Skiddie to the max.

BadKarma

2013-03-27 18:57:37

Stuff. Just stuff :f:

tristen8878

2013-03-27 19:49:46

From: NKN
Here we go.


11 bot nets.
2 booters
1 crypter
Neptune
BlackShades
Crypter
Facebook Phishing
Adobe Flash
Adobe Aftereffects
Xsplit
Adobe Photoshop CS5 and CS6
Mount&Blade
I Am Alive
Dishonoured
Black Ops 2
Mark of the Ninja
My runescape client
Deadspace


And that's about it


Why do you have bot nets on your computer do you ddos servers?

Austin

2013-03-27 20:00:14

From: senrath
I've never understood the desire to brag on a publicly accessible website about the illegal stuff you're doing.


^^^

deathcrow

2013-03-27 20:10:38

Let's just say that it wouldn't be good for me at all. >.>

StickToTheScript

2013-03-27 20:34:50

They would find nothing.. I got lots of crap. But nothing to get me in trouble! XD

Neznam

2013-03-28 01:05:42

I don't have any illegal stuff, but my friend zebra has quite a few movies dled and few games/programs that should have been payed for.

slushpuppy

2013-03-28 09:43:03

er pls show me ur warrant

idontlikeu

2013-03-28 13:31:33

Rest of my life in jail highest secured no joke.

rj

2013-03-28 17:16:06

They would find a Bi-racial version of YoHoJo's avatar, my rs vids… that's about it

Debug

2013-03-28 17:21:18

runescape

:/

azriel

2013-03-28 17:25:49

Only thing they would get on me is my win7 install, since its fresh and before that was a full ext3 reformat when i had to install linux for a short while so theres no previous data saved.


If they could retroactively get all the software, music, films and other*cough*films i'd be going away for a long time…

then again FBI doesn't have juristiction in the UK.






yes, I've just realised that wouldn't actually stop them

The Killer

2013-03-28 17:50:28

Ok. I'd get it easy, Runescape bots with scripts. 5 films and 1 game. Me is a good boy ;)

Wetish

2013-03-28 18:05:28

Edit:
Why am I posting this to the public. Silly me should think before posting.

Wu-Tang Clan

2013-03-28 18:10:36

Whats stuff like crypter and booter? And why do you need a facebook phisher?
I have Adobe CS5, Minecraft, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Steamcrack, and some Windows, OSX, and Alienware OS cracks.

Brandon

2013-03-28 18:21:12

From: Joseph D
Whats stuff like crypter and booter? And why do you need a facebook phisher?
I have Adobe CS5, Minecraft, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Steamcrack, and some Windows, OSX, and Alienware OS cracks.



Don't mind him.. he just got the names from the top posts on hackforums.. lol..

Real guys use backtrack and metasploit and roll their own.


11 bot nets <– no comment. Probably not believe this..
2 booters <– no comment.
1 crypter <– Same as below?
Neptune <– crap.
BlackShades <– Worst than DarkComet & Paradox..
Crypter <– probably no FUD stubs.
Facebook Phishing <– no one would go to a silly fb phishing site.


I don't see what good any of these things will do you.

Wetish

2013-03-28 18:22:06

From: Joseph D
Whats stuff like crypter and booter? And why do you need a facebook phisher?
I have Adobe CS5, Minecraft, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Steamcrack, and some Windows, OSX, and Alienware OS cracks.


Crypter: A file used to make a virus undetectable by antivirus software.
Booter: Used to stress a server or hit people offline.
Facebook phisher: To gain access to peoples facebook accounts and spread your virus to obtain more slaves on your botnet.

sahibjs

2013-03-28 18:26:15

CS5, windows, and a few gigs of music :P

If the FBI comes knocking on my door, I'm holding you and this thread responsible Sin haha

Wetish

2013-03-28 18:37:23

If I saw the FBI at my door I would consider taking a hammer to my hard drives.

Benny

2013-03-28 21:40:12

Just simba and powerbot.. maybe a few songs here and there…

also probs some random google searches but nothing stored.

deathcrow

2013-03-28 21:44:20

From: Wetish
If I saw the FBI at my door I would consider taking a hammer to my hard drives.


Don't forget to use a strong magnet.

rj

2013-03-28 21:45:28

From: Wetish
If I saw the FBI at my door I would consider taking a hammer to my hard drives.


Actually a better option:

Set-up cameras outside your house and stream the video to your computer, write a simba program so when there are more then 500 pixels shifting a alarm goes off, have gasoline ready, dump the hard drives in the gas, throw a lit cig in the bucket and answer the door

l6bustank

2013-03-30 14:56:04

… , they'd get distracted by my awesome movie collection :p

Jakkle

2013-03-30 22:34:43

This
From: masterBB
Let's start with… wait a second, are you a cop?

This
From: senrath
I've never understood the desire to brag on a publicly accessible website about the illegal stuff you're doing.

And this ;) lol.
From: l6bustank
… , they'd get distracted by my awesome movie collection :p

Gala

2013-03-31 12:00:17

From: Brandon

I don't see what good any of these things will do you.


It will make him feel legionz.

[XoL]

2013-03-31 16:31:15

:( I buy my things…

WinterDream

2013-04-03 08:43:14

I download"ed" all my Music, Movies from illegal sources which is a legal thing to do here….so i think im fine when the FBI knocks on my door.

Timba

2013-04-03 09:35:08

Just a lot of torrents :P

Xeronate

2013-04-03 15:58:48

my l33t w4r3s, ub3r hecks, and rapenets (bot nets)

As in, I system restore my computer once a month and I never have anything besides college homework and simba. Sometimes other bot clients. Not even any illegal songs downloaded.

Bearzs

2013-04-04 12:41:14

You wouldn't get in any trouble for any of this…

Kazimx

2013-04-11 04:20:47

I got mainly just pirated games as I'm not stupid enough to do anything serious on my home computer.
The main stuff such as black market phone software that is used for altering IMEI's etc… Is left for someone else to do, obviously as I don't own any of it :).

Kazimx

2013-04-11 04:25:20

From: Bearzs
You wouldn't get in any trouble for any of this…


Where on Earth do you live as pirating particularly in UK has a 5 year jail sentence and hefty fines, so trouble isn't the word if you get caught.

So get using PeerBlock for when you download any torrents as they are tracked.

t4q

2013-04-11 05:32:40

Windows, PS CS5, songs, movies and few games..
15 years and I've bought only hardware :redface:

digitalninja

2013-04-11 12:08:07

Apparently I am pretty much a good guy … other than terabytes of anime I dont download hacked programs. And by saying SIMBA are we suggesting its an illegal program? Not sure why people even mention it. Oh … and the occasional movie which I delete right after watching but I should probably hide my ip while downloading … I am not sure the FBI is more concerned with the downloading or the watching but if they cant find it then who knows … Im also not too sure on the legality of anime fan subs. I suppose until a US distributor picks up the series its like TIVO but man alive I hate english dubbed anime -.-

happy hippo

2013-04-11 12:24:10

Lol In ireland the FBI cant do shi*t, but lets say if my comp got in there hands… i would be royaly screwed sideways

Itankbots

2013-04-11 16:11:43

I Buy most my stuff legally. If i like someones product enough, they deserve to have the lil bit of money it costs.

Anyways, FBI doesn't know my password to my computer ;)

AutismBot

2013-04-11 21:04:29

I probably might be screwed. In my mancave I have a server built using a few terrabytes of space just for storing bootlegs… plenty of porn, the usual, few homemade videos lol, but i guess when your 19 you can't have pics of 17 year old friends unless you wanna go to jail lol.

Uhh, blacksbooter, email bomber, hotspotshield, ghostmouse 2.0, simba, cheat engine, demonbuddy, all my old rsbots scripts, Wspy, a long list of tools from the hackingforums themself… so yeah id be raped. its not really the programs, its actually what their used for lolol

Rincewind

2013-04-12 17:15:40

^ Who downloads porn in this day and age?

Sawyer

2013-04-12 17:49:49

Under the CFAA in the U.S. simply breaking Jagex's TOS is a felony and is punishable by decades in prison. It's ludicrous.

Gala

2013-04-13 09:46:17

From: Sawyer
Under the CFAA in the U.S. simply breaking Jagex's TOS is a felony and is punishable by decades in prison. It's ludicrous.


Source/more infos about this?

John

2013-04-13 18:31:32

I don't have a door :(

Sawyer

2013-04-13 20:59:41

From: Gala
Source/more infos about this?

https://ilt.eff.org/index.php/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act_%28CFAA%29
That gives an explanation.
From: That Website


The tragic death of Internet activist Aaron Swartz, who killed himself in January amidst prosecution for downloading 4.8 million academic articles from JSTOR, has brought one of the primary U.S. computer crime laws under intense public scrutiny. Known as the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, or CFAA, the law was the basis for 11 of the 13 felony charges against Swartz, who faced more than three decades in prison and a potential $1 million fine for his actions. Some of these CFAA-related charges partially stem from the fact that Swartz violated JSTOR’s Terms of Service – you know, the type of absurdly long document we all agree to but never read.

If Swartz could be charged with nearly a dozen felonies for violating a ToS, does that mean anyone who violates such terms could be charged with federal crimes?
What is the CFAA?

Enacted in 1986 as an amendment to the Counterfeit Access Device and Abuse Act, the CFAA makes it illegal to do a whole bunch of stuff related to computers and computer networks, from stealing government documents and committing fraud to sending out spam emails. It’s an extremely broad law, which means a lot of activities can get pushed under its umbrella by federal prosecutors. And it’s been amended so many times that it’s completely unruly.

Why the CFAA is problematic

Much of this breadth is due to the fact that the CFAA prohibits anyone from accessing a computer “without authorization” or by “exceeding authorized access” for certain purposes, which includes attempts to “obtain information” from a “protected computer” if doing so includes “interstate or foreign … communication”.

Now, this probably sounds like a bunch of legal blather – and it is – but it is legal blather that could potentially affect anyone who uses the Web. Here’s why:

“Without authorization”


While the CFAA does explicitly define what a computer is (“an electronic, magnetic, optical, electrochemical, or other high speed data processing device performing logical, arithmetic, or storage functions, and includes any data storage facility or communications facility directly related to or operating in conjunction with such device, but such term does not include an automated typewriter or typesetter, a portable hand held calculator, or other similar device”) it does not define what “authorization” means. And that’s a big problem; because of this, prosecutors can (and have) interpreted this to mean that violations of a website’s Terms of Service are tantamount to accessing that website’s computers “without authorization.”

“Obtain information”

“Obtaining information” could mean a whole swath of things, from downloading top-secret nuclear launch codes to loading a Web page. And again, this legalese could be used to argue that someone has violated the CFAA, and has therefore committed a felony.

“Interstate or foreign communication”


You are almost certainly engaging in “interstate or foreign communication” by reading this article, since Digital Trends’ servers are probably not in the same state (or country) where you live. In other words, using the Internet is, almost by definition, “interstate or foreign communication” with a computer.

“Protected computer”

A “protected computer” under the CFAA is any computer that is connected to a government network, or is used for “interstate or foreign commerce or communication.” So if the computer is connected to the Internet, it is “protected.”

How CFAA applies to Terms of Service

Okay, so now that we’ve sifted through the most troubling parts of the CFAA, let’s look at how this applies to websites’ Terms of Service.

Every website you go to, every social network you’ve joined, every Internet-connected service you use has a Terms of Services that you had to agree to before using it. Even your Internet service provider has a Terms of Service. And chances are you didn’t read any of them.

Having read through quite a few myself, however, I know that many of them include a big list of rules – things you can’t do, or ways in which you are expected to conduct yourself. For example, most websites – including behemoths like Google – prohibit access by people under the age of 13. On Facebook, users are barred from using pseudonyms, or doing anything “misleading.” Many websites prohibit the posting of sexually suggestive content, or “harassing” anyone.

If a prosecutor so chooses, she can use the CFAA to argue that anyone who violates a Terms of Service is committing a felony. That means every 12-year-old who uses Google Search (or Facebook, for that matter) could technically be targeted under CFAA.
Case in point

This argument was made most famously in United States v. Drew – a case you’ve probably heard of even if it doesn’t ring a bell. In this case, defendant Lori Drew was accused of violating the CFAA when she made a fake MySpace profile, and used it to torment one of her teenage daughter’s enemies. The girl Drew was bullying, 13-year-old Megan Meir, eventually, tragically, took her own life. Prosecutors argued that Drew’s MySpace communications led to her suicide. Drew was later convicted of a misdemeanor violation of the CFAA.

A judge eventually vacated Drew’s conviction, arguing that it was inappropriate to interpret the CFAA. “But other criminal defendants haven’t been so lucky,” writes Marcia Hofmann, staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Hofmann points to AT&T “iPad hacker” Andrew Auernheimer, who was recently convicted under the CFAA for his role in downloading more than 120,000 email addresses of iPad users that AT&T had left unsecured on its network. (He plans to appeal the conviction.)

“It’s possible that Auernheimer’s unsympathetic reputation as an Internet troll played a role in the government’s decision to indict him,” writes Hofmann. “And the CFAA’s vague and over-broad language gave the jury an excuse to punish someone who didn’t carry out anything remotely resembling a serious computer intrusion, even though that’s the concern that caused Congress to criminalize ‘unauthorized’ access in the first place.”

sm0k3

2013-04-13 21:08:10

well allready had my HD full of SteamRips siezed and destroyed so dont keep much on my devices these days
but if you wanted to thats what pay/g 3g networks and remote vpn/i2p connected nas is for isnt it oh Yeh and mini pen drives and sdcards that slide between just about anything, SecureSD cards are great if/when shit hits the fan cut them up :)

Sawyer

2013-04-13 21:36:13

The FBI should have more important things to do than prosecute people for cyber crimes.. what about stopping all of those shootings or domestic terrorist plots? Or murders? Come on…

Sirenia

2013-04-14 04:30:38

I havent paid for any software on my computer, I pay my gametime with botted gold on respective game ;)