SRL Archive - Technology

That hit my eye the most, I understand all the other stuff said, but ONLY $750 for a petabyte in 5 years (max), that is.. unreal to me.

Wow. I'm surprised, honestly, but not that much, due to the immense amount of technology advances that I've seen so far In my lifetime. 1 petabyte ssd? :P

>Buy 1 petabyte HDD
>Drop it on the ground
>Mechanical malfunction

From: sahibjs
Wow. I'm surprised, honestly, but not that much, due to the immense amount of technology advances that I've seen so far In my lifetime. 1 petabyte ssd? :P

Soon! Glad they started advancing so much on SSD.. it's sad how much earlier we invented SSD storage than HDD.. but at least we came back to it

From: litoris
>Buy 1 petabyte HDD
>Drop it on the ground
>Mechanical malfunction

I'm gonna warranty mine for as many years

probably gonna build some cheap i3 32GB RAM for a hard drive cache server and run 10gbps lines all around my house and just use that drive as storage for like 10 different computers & servers.. shit would be so fast. especially now that intel has 10gbps NICs for like $100, I remember when they were like $1000 -.-

Hmm, still. I got ~60 kBs internet per second. That is 5184000 kB per day or 4.943 gB a day. In one year I can download 1804.5 gB, which is like 1.76 tB a year. It will take me roughly 582 years to fill a petabyte! Unless of course our village finally updates the internet cable to my house -_-. Anyway, my point is, I don't really need a petabyte :P.

From: masterBB
Hmm, still. I got ~60 kBs internet per second. That is 5184000 kB per day or 4.943 gB a day. In one year I can download 1804.5 gB, which is like 1.76 tB a year. It will take me roughly 582 years to fill a petabyte! Unless of course our village finally updates the internet cable to my house -_-. Anyway, my point is, I don't really need a petabyte :P.

loooool

yea I calculated it on googles 1gbps fiber, it'd still take about 100 days to fill

on "good" internet (so like 50mbps) you're still looking at around 2000days, at $750 though that price is ridiculously good… maybe they'll have like 10TB drives for like $20

My dad works for the MoD, and where he works has recently invested in 2PB of storage for their servers, but it cost them over £1m. However, this comes with all the ridiculous costs that ATLAS charge.

I'm not sure 1PB will cost as little as $750, given the rate of inflation, and storage really hasn't cheapened that much over the last couple of years.

From: Richard
My dad works for the MoD, and where he works has recently invested in 2PB of storage for their servers, but it cost them over £1m. However, this comes with all the ridiculous costs that ATLAS charge.

I'm not sure 1PB will cost as little as $750, given the rate of inflation, and storage really hasn't cheapened that much over the last couple of years.

storage has more than cut in half over just the past year in USA..

From: grats
storage has more than cut in half over just the past year in USA..

We're really unlucky here in the UK then. My 500GB HDD cost me just under £30 two year ago, now the cheapest is £40. Which is actually above the rate of inflation too.

I highly doubt manufacturers have any intention of doing such a great step towards a petabyte. Imagine if they did ? That would mean they would be able to cover data storage needs really cheap, people won't ever need to upgrade if you think about it.

So I am pretty certain that we will still get those silly terabyte Hard Drives for a while now, each year releasing versions with slightly more space, and avoiding making the jump to Peta, even if is possible, it would ruin every HDD manufacturer.

From: speedster
I highly doubt manufacturers have any intention of doing such a great step towards a petabyte. Imagine if they did ? That would mean they would be able to cover data storage needs really cheap, people won't ever need to upgrade if you think about it.

So I am pretty certain that we will still get those silly terabyte Hard Drives for a while now, each year releasing versions with slightly more space, and avoiding making the jump to Peta, even if is possible, it would ruin every HDD manufacturer.

I know, I don't believe it either.. isn't it like half a million dollars to get 1PB today?

that would be like $1 per TB if my quick math in my head is somewhat correct.. I really find it unbelievable, but it really excites me at the same time.

From: Richard
We're really unlucky here in the UK then. My 500GB HDD cost me just under £30 two year ago, now the cheapest is £40. Which is actually above the rate of inflation too.

500GB isn't going down. they're getting larger and cheaper

example: 500GB here is probably around the same price, 45-50 or so

1TB is anywhere from 60-110 depending on quality
2TB is anywhere from 70-200 depending on quality (now quality in both these, includes WD black, which are like double the price of others)
and 3TB is like $120 or something, obviously black is way more, again

but I mean, overall, there's like a $10 difference between 1 and 2TB drives

Yeah i got a 4tb drive insanely cheap. was crazy

From: Richard
My dad works for the MoD, and where he works has recently invested in 2PB of storage for their servers, but it cost them over £1m. However, this comes with all the ridiculous costs that ATLAS charge.

I'm not sure 1PB will cost as little as $750, given the rate of inflation, and storage really hasn't cheapened that much over the last couple of years.

It will happen… in 1986 I bought a chained set of a pair of 20 meg hard drives…total 40 megs… cost close to $2,000…. yeah I am not joking ;)

Will it happen precisely in that amount of time… who knows? could be longer… but it also could be quicker… just depends on how the tech evolves…..

Interesting article if anyone is curious…. note I am positive of its accuracy, but it seems realistic. http://www.computerweekly.com/feature/Apollo-11-The-computers-that-put-man-on-the-moon

Only gripe with the infographic is 1GB = 7 minutes of HD video, not the compression ratio I download at lol.
But either way…I don't even know what I would put on a harddrive like that lol. Download everything supa HD obvs and loads of music…hmmm. Grats has the right idea with that server.

Well, I think it would all depend on how fast we can make Internet work in those 5 years. If you could reach download speeds where our terabyte harddrives would be bottlenecking us, then of course I can see something like this happening, but right now they're still making money off of companies buying such large drives.

What I'm saying is, once individual users starts finding uses for this much data, the prices will go down for sure.

Its actually amazing if you think of how much our world has changed. We went from nothing to so much! Its awesome!

From: StickToTheScript
Its actually amazing if you think of how much our world has changed. We went from nothing to so much! Its awesome!

I agree

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_hard_disk_drives

scroll down a bit to that timeline, it's insane how fast we went up.. we barely could make 100GB and then BAM 2TB

From: cause
Only gripe with the infographic is 1GB = 7 minutes of HD video, not the compression ratio I download at lol.
But either way…I don't even know what I would put on a harddrive like that lol. Download everything supa HD obvs and loads of music…hmmm. Grats has the right idea with that server.

Real HD…
you can do 1080p at 100kbps or 100000kbps, the size differences are extreme.. however only 9000kbps max is considered the "HD" for 1080p

it's actually annoying as hell how horribly standardized it is

WoW this is amazing and I remember the day my father was told they were making it possible to put 1Meg of date into a single disc and almost had a hard-on.

That is a lot of data, i for one clearly dont need this.

Thats alot of data 1 terabyte is more than my whole hard drive a billion times over ha crazy

What would you even put on there? And even at USB 3 speeds that'd take well over a month of non-stop copying to fill up. It's good to see technology is advancing, but I fail to see how a regular household user would benefit from so much storage.

I don't see a point in owning a petabyte drive unless its for a business which requires such an amount or government use or whatever. For personal use however… even if one was to FILL the entire hard drive with movies for example, the chances of you watching even 10th of that would take quite a few lifetimes. IMO not really excited for it nor would I ever get one even if it were as cheap as 50$ or less.

EDIT: but like others have said, it's nice to see the advancement in technology.

From: Rich
What would you even put on there? And even at USB 3 speeds that'd take well over a month of non-stop copying to fill up. It's good to see technology is advancing, but I fail to see how a regular household user would benefit from so much storage.

The fact that a Terabyte would be like $1 is the benefit, just like 4TB drives exist today, doesn't mean you have to buy them.

I have 500 GB (2 x 250GB) and that is plenty for me. I don't know why you would need a petabyte.

From: Noob King
I have 500 GB (2 x 250GB) and that is plenty for me. I don't know why you would need a petabyte.

I don't remember how much space games take up, but movies are ~1gb each, so it would take hundreds of them to fill yours. I have a 1TB drive just because it didn't cost much more than a 500gb one.

I think it would be awesome<3 I want to own it, why? I have tons of hours of HD video that I've shot that fill my HDD, I have 750gb and its 700GB full.

tech doubles fast yo

From: BMWxi
I don't remember how much space games take up, but movies are ~1gb each, so it would take hundreds of them to fill yours. I have a 1TB drive just because it didn't cost much more than a 500gb one.

They're also faster, the bigger drives.. the more you stay on the outer edges of platters, the faster they are (basic circle circumference and wheel turning speed maths etc)

hard drives actually benefit a lot from staying on the outer edges of the platters

not that I'd spend $750 for something I didn't need, just that.. if this became a reality.. we would have $10TB drives for like $20, probably.

From: grats
They're also faster, the bigger drives.. the more you stay on the outer edges of platters, the faster they are (basic circle circumference and wheel turning speed maths etc)

hard drives actually benefit a lot from staying on the outer edges of the platters

not that I'd spend $750 for something I didn't need, just that.. if this became a reality.. we would have $10TB drives for like $20, probably.

You think? Seems like even for the cost of materials and construction $20 doesn't offer that appealing of a profit margin…

From: cause
You think? Seems like even for the cost of materials and construction $20 doesn't offer that appealing of a profit margin…

Their patent for the technology that I read, shows a pretty much total "redo" of the current harddrive technology we use now, as far as how they read etc

I'm not too "into the guts of hardware" knowledgeable, but inside the super drives there are some gasses (I know helium is used a lot in hardware, but not sure in this case) they're talking about having a pressurized rotation chamber which would keep it much cooler than the regular drives now, so they could spin faster and be smaller and have more friction while not melting themselves etc…

It's kind of like most technology we've made in the past, SSD's for example were pretty much our first methods of storing stuff, and then we developed the spinning disks and pretty much gave up on SSD technology for a long ass time until recently when we got smart enough to make SLC, MLC and TLC much more durable (because we needed them WAY smaller) and much cheaper.

so I have a feeling that may happen with hard drives in the future, it's pretty insane spending a million dollars for a petabyte when majority of big sites are using that much data.. IMO

From: grats
Their patent for the technology that I read, shows a pretty much total "redo" of the current harddrive technology we use now, as far as how they read etc

I'm not too "into the guts of hardware" knowledgeable, but inside the super drives there are some gasses (I know helium is used a lot in hardware, but not sure in this case) they're talking about having a pressurized rotation chamber which would keep it much cooler than the regular drives now, so they could spin faster and be smaller and have more friction while not melting themselves etc…

It's kind of like most technology we've made in the past, SSD's for example were pretty much our first methods of storing stuff, and then we developed the spinning disks and pretty much gave up on SSD technology for a long ass time until recently when we got smart enough to make SLC, MLC and TLC much more durable (because we needed them WAY smaller) and much cheaper.

so I have a feeling that may happen with hard drives in the future, it's pretty insane spending a million dollars for a petabyte when majority of big sites are using that much data.. IMO

Well that is awesome…platter disk hard drives have waaay too much latency for our current generation of hardware IMO, I mean, Grandma buys a new computer from futureshop and it still takes 30 seconds (or longer after crap is loaded) to boot! That's the same or slower than her old Windows 98 computer!

Ya time for better and cheaper hard drives.

From: cause
Well that is awesome…platter disk hard drives have waaay too much latency for our current generation of hardware IMO, I mean, Grandma buys a new computer from futureshop and it still takes 30 seconds (or longer after crap is loaded) to boot! That's the same or slower than her old Windows 98 computer!

Ya time for better and cheaper hard drives.

Yea hard drives are far behind, definitely

I'm liking SSD's getting up in the 512GB range, hope to see them completely take over, nobody cares about having a few TB hard drive for movies and stuff, but it's pathetic to see programs take like 5+ seconds to start up when ram/cpu today can handle thousands of instances of these programs..

I have a feeling it won't be long ( less than 10 years) until pcie SSD's are pretty main stream and the only thing connected to sata are storage drives… kinda how everything else went, used to be external, now it's directly attached / built onto the motherboard

I'm just thinking of the amount of porn I'll be able to torrent :)

The only problem with this is that its a bit ahead of its time. Very few ppl/companies have a need for this. Might take like 10 years for the data amounts to catch up.

E: Ooo, 300 posts :D