SRL Archive - RuneScape News and General

Gambling Removed + Goldfarming/Botting


Jake

2013-03-18 13:01:09

Good job Jagex.
http://services.runescape.com/m=news/dealing-with-games-of-chance

Hi everyone,

We talked at the beginning of the year about how we wanted to make 2013 fun, memorable and special to all of you. We’ve still got a lot to do, but are starting to make good progress, especially in the war on botting and gold farming. From listening to your feedback we've made changes to address an issue that many of you brought up as a point of concern: player-run games of chance.

Also known as flower games, hot/cold games or dicing, these games of chance had grown to become a major problem for the community and for us as the administrators of the RuneScape. In these games of chance, “hosts” offer other players a deal - usually by publicly spamming - and take a bet on the outcome of a randomised event.

Such activities create many problems: they encourage spam advertising; the trust-based trades are rife with scamming; they're disruptive to the game's economy; they create feelings of unfairness; and have links with real-world trading and gold farming.

From the recent forum discussion thread on this topic started by Mod Mark, it's clear that the overwhelming majority of you do not want this activity to remain in RuneScape. As such, we are making the following changes:

Firstly, with immediate effect, we’re making an addition to the rules of RuneScape:

You must not advertise, organise, promote or participate in player-run games of chance, where game money or items are staked on the outcome of a random activity.

Any account found to be involved in such games of chance will receive a strike against their account. As with other offences, this will escalate from muting to temp-banning, and then to a last-resort action of permanent ban.

While the hosts and advertisers of such activities are the obvious part of the problem, the players taking part are also at the root of the issue. If we’re to stamp out this type of disruptive behavior, everyone involved needs to be held accountable.

The full details of this new rule can be found in the Rules of RuneScape. As with all rules, this applies to both the main and old school services.

Secondly, in today’s game update we’ve made changes to certain in-game items which are regularly used in games of chance: mithril seeds, the Easter Ring/Ring of Egg, the Seal of Approval emote and the Classic Cape emote. To prevent their use in games of chance and to reinforce fair play, we have removed all randomised outcomes and actions from these items:

Planted mithril seeds now always grow the same coloured flower, although picking the flower will still result in a randomly coloured flower in your inventory.
Using the Ring of Egg will now always turn your character into a blue egg.
The Seal of Approval emote now chooses the same seal every time it’s used.
Clicking on the Skill Cape emote button when wearing the Classic Cape will always display a rune hatchet image.

As with our war against botting, this is an ongoing effort and not a one-off resolution. We will continue to monitor the situation and make updates as appropriate in an effort to provide the fairest and most balanced resolution to this issue.

Thank you for your comments on this topic so far. Please continue to give us your feedback so we can ensure we’re tackling the problem in the long term. Let us know on the forums.

Thanks for reading,

Mod Pips
Executive Producer

Full details are available on our FAQ here.

Jake

2013-03-18 13:12:37

I was on mobile and can't edit the OP without having my phone browser crash, but here is the FAQ
Note that this new rule affects to OLD SCHOOL RS and EOC RS.

FAQ on Gambling Removal
What if I just play chance games in my friends chat? I won’t be disrupting players there.

The new rule covers all types of and venues for player-hosted chance games. There are multiple reasons for the rule, of which chat disruption is just one.

What’s happening in OSRS? Will the rules be the same?

All moderation for Old School RuneScape and the main game is the same, as the account used to log into both games is the same.

If people use throwaway accounts, will their main accounts have action taken against them?


When moderating, we always look into alternative accounts to ensure that all factors are taken into consideration.

What about doubling?

Any betting on random outcomes is not allowed.

Why aren't the bans more severe?


Repeat cases of involvement in games of chance can lead towards being permanently banned from the game. That's pretty severe!

Are you going to add more PMods to mute them in game?

We are working with the PMod mentors at the moment to get a training programme in place for new volunteers who come into the fold.

We will be keeping a very close eye on the amount of reports we are receiving about games of chance and will keep it in mind when recruiting in the future.

litoris

2013-03-18 13:14:27

Yay! I hope rares do crash, hoping to buy one myself :D

Richard

2013-03-18 13:15:03

I lol'd at the bit about PMods. They were a nice idea back in the day, but these days, 90%+ of them are corrupt.

Jake

2013-03-18 13:19:17

Taken from reddit

The Killer

2013-03-18 13:20:46

From: Richard
I lol'd at the bit about PMods. They were a nice idea back in the day, but these days, 90%+ of them are corrupt.


shhh, I want pmod :P. Who's going to suspect a pmod for botting :stirthepot:

Jake

2013-03-18 13:28:06

From: The Killer
shhh, I want pmod :P. Who's going to suspect a pmod for botting :stirthepot:

Haha, I know one or two that do ;)

Austin

2013-03-18 13:31:10

Support.

Silentcore

2013-03-18 14:06:48

I totally support gambling to be removed from the game. Hopefully that fixes all the spamming in the g.e.

Jake

2013-03-18 15:15:34

So it has begun

Benny

2013-03-18 16:08:16

Holy crap is everyone panic selling Rares? :/

litoris

2013-03-18 16:24:28

Spent some time trying to buy rares off people for 70m :D Peopel are trying to sell in panic, but not for lower than the market price. Hope the supply pulls the price own.

speedster

2013-03-18 16:37:51

Wow, lol - so many people panicking right now :) but the 1st panic sale happened when Jagex has 1st announced their intentions, I doubt that rares will go down for much :)

Itankbots

2013-03-18 16:46:04

They are gonna crash, then skyrocket, then crash and stablize as gamblers quit/get banned and stop manipulating the market.

ATM the whole market is just manipulation

Jake

2013-03-18 17:33:52

From: Itankbots
They are gonna crash, then skyrocket, then crash and stablize as gamblers quit/get banned and stop manipulating the market.

ATM the whole market is just manipulation

Yeah I was assuming the same thing. Then you also have that new skill coming out in June/July, so that could affect rares in a way too in regards of how profitable/the demand the skill would get players, and then if those players are interested in the rares.

goon mike

2013-03-19 00:38:02

Good riddens gambling ruined Rs as much or more than botting.