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Jagex could theoretically detect us all


rj

2013-03-03 21:19:58

If jagex could detect tenths of milliseconds couldn't they detect us bots easily? It would be obvious which are bots since they wait for example 1000.0 milliseconds instead of a human which would might be 1000.4

Just a interesting theory

Justin

2013-03-03 21:31:23

I'm sorry, what?

What is this 'jake'?

rj

2013-03-03 21:35:14

From: Justin
I'm sorry, what?

What is this 'jake'?


You can thank iPod touch auto correct lol

Ian

2013-03-03 21:36:54

Interesting idea, but I think that enough random time to cancel this out would occur because of the time it takes for a command to be sent/acted on.

No idea if this is right but imagine it takes .4 milliseconds for Simba to read a command and then get SMART to do the action, Jagex would only receive the time when the action actually started and not when Simba told it to start. If that makes any sense :p

rj

2013-03-03 21:43:27

From: BMWxi
Interesting idea, but I think that enough random time to cancel this out would occur because of the time it takes for a command to be sent/acted on.

No idea if this is right but imagine it takes .4 milliseconds for Simba to read a command and then get SMART to do the action, Jagex would only receive the time when the action actually started and not when Simba told it to start. If that makes any sense :p


I was thinking the same thing that samba might not be 100% accurate with waits but if it was most of the time it could still be enough. Of course if this was added then I guess we would just add tenth of millisecond waits but if they put it in without us noticing we could have a massive ban wave

Ashaman88

2013-03-03 21:45:24

Coulda shoulda woulda jagex

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============Version: 1.2=============
Time Running: 1 Weeks, 1 Days, 4 Hours, 37 Minutes and 54 Seconds
Hunter Experience Earned: 19867991
Hunter Experience/Hour: 101041
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Flight

2013-03-03 21:46:45

I'm not following 100%. Yes I'm sure they can record time between actions, but what actions are you talking about? You never specified… Wait times between clicking? Typing keys on the keyboard? Moving the mouse?

rj

2013-03-03 21:53:44

From: Flight
I'm not following 100%. Yes I'm sure they can record time between actions, but what actions are you talking about? You never specified… Wait times between clicking? Typing keys on the keyboard? Moving the mouse?


Let's say your bot is high alching and waiting 1000-3000 milliseconds each alch, what if jagex noticed your waits were like:

1342.0
2531.0
1852.0

These are very random but it always a exact non decimal

Flight

2013-03-03 21:58:05

From: rjj95
Let's say your bot is high alching and waiting 1000-3000 milliseconds each alch, what if jagex noticed your waits were like:

1342.0
2531.0
1852.0

These are very random but it always a exact non decimal


I really expect them to use better methods than that. :/ I think it's an insignificant variable for Jagex to monitor for every player. Perhaps wait time in milliseconds or seconds, yes, but tenth of milliseconds… I would very much doubt that.

Richard

2013-03-03 22:18:06

Yeah, but there's at least a thirty second ping on any world. The huge range in ping means that timing really isn't something they detect, I expect.

I'm 90% sure that their detection works more on your variance of tasks over time, rather than individual moments. It's more just a case of "how often do they repeat this taskwith x amount consistency"

I could easily be wrong, but that's how I reckon they function

speedster

2013-03-04 10:25:51

From: Ashaman88
Coulda shoulda woulda jagex

========AshamanButterflyHunter=======
============Version: 1.2=============
Time Running: 1 Weeks, 1 Days, 4 Hours, 37 Minutes and 54 Seconds
Hunter Experience Earned: 19867991
Hunter Experience/Hour: 101041
Agility Experience Earned: 3741780
Agility Experience/Hour: 19029
=====================================


Hahah, nice! :D


I doubt Jagex is looking for stuff like that, and if they did I bet anything that even with the brightest mind at jagex they wouldn't be able to come up with an algorithm to use the data in order to differentiate human from bot.

Benny

2013-03-04 16:25:18

From: Ashaman88
Coulda shoulda woulda jagex

========AshamanButterflyHunter=======
============Version: 1.2=============
Time Running: 1 Weeks, 1 Days, 4 Hours, 37 Minutes and 54 Seconds
Hunter Experience Earned: 19867991
Hunter Experience/Hour: 101041
Agility Experience Earned: 3741780
Agility Experience/Hour: 19029
=====================================


I think you tease people too much with your ability and scripts.