SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

Does using antibans cause more bans?


slushpuppy

2013-03-03 08:12:13

While looking over scripts in the script section i thought of this hypothesis, does antibans cause more bans?

I notice a fair number of anti bans implementations- when over time- would make you more obvious to any anti bot monitoring program i.e. bot watch.

Those antibans I seen, are often implemented into the program loop with simple randomnization to determine when the program routine should jump to the antiban routine. And it is also worthy to note that these antibans are in any part relevant to the job the script was created to do.

Statistically, over a long period of time, that certain script will perform XX number of the same set of actions. This signature, combined with 100s of accounts using the same script, makes it easier to gather data and differentiate bots from humans


Discuss

blockay

2013-03-03 08:18:30

thats a good point, i personally dont think many 'antibans' people put in their scripts help much, a lot of them are way too simple and repetitive. people need to put more thought into it, i think that antibans are very essential in every good script, but only if done right

Sjoe

2013-03-03 08:27:29

Better if people use their own antibans in scripts, so it has some diversity.

But in the end: scripts like Ashaman's LRC Miner get used on a big scale and no-one got banned using that script ( that we know of)

DannyRS

2013-03-03 08:36:16

I tend to focus on the mouse movements in my scripts, not doing random things that no legit player would ever do,

For example, hovering a skill, moving the camera randomly, all things I'm pretty sure 90% of legit players don't do, the only really good anti-bans I would say would be the RandomRClick, and pickupmouse or something,

Basically if I wouldn't do it while playing the game, I don't do it lol

Sjoe

2013-03-03 08:42:32

From: DannyRS
I tend to focus on the mouse movements in my scripts, not doing random things that no legit player would ever do,

For example, hovering a skill, moving the camera randomly, all things I'm pretty sure 90% of legit players don't do, the only really good anti-bans I would say would be the RandomRClick, and pickupmouse or something,

Basically if I wouldn't do it while playing the game, I don't do it lol


I do it all the time legitting, playing with the camera's, Spam clicking with the mouse, Moving the mouse at rapid speeds. lol

The Killer

2013-03-03 08:45:34

I never really use antiban, I feel that it is only necessary if you're doing something slow (such as woodcutting or cooking) and I feel that fast paced things don't need any whatsoever.

Sawyer

2013-03-03 09:08:44

I agree that fast paced things such as minigames and some monster killing doesn't need antiban, but slow and boring things such as skilling do.

Ashaman88

2013-03-03 09:37:48

Would the same not apply to mouse movements?

Itankbots

2013-03-03 10:48:16

I dont normally do antibans either, aside from all mouse movements and clicks randomized (to a degree)

litoris

2013-03-03 10:59:51

I think the best antiban is just mobing the mous off the screen and taking a break for a while. If you don't do that occasionally, then that's rpetty obvious.
I think I had it in my miner that if you botted for over half an hour, the breaks started, and they got more frequent after 90 minutes.

Netzone

2013-03-03 11:20:34

I would argue that the best antiban would be simululating tabbing out of the game, like drop focus of the game.

rj

2013-03-03 13:30:05

I add randomness inside of randomness but the best thing to do is something unique

Sequence

2013-03-03 13:59:11

From: DannyRS
I tend to focus on the mouse movements in my scripts, not doing random things that no legit player would ever do,

For example, hovering a skill, moving the camera randomly, all things I'm pretty sure 90% of legit players don't do, the only really good anti-bans I would say would be the RandomRClick, and pickupmouse or something,

Basically if I wouldn't do it while playing the game, I don't do it lol


I'm often hovering the skill I'm training, rotating the camera etc. when I'm playing legit.

Olly

2013-03-04 00:31:58

Antiban is the hardest thing to judge(im always changing ranges and stuff!), it all depends what you are doing and what type of antiban :p

DaWu

2013-03-04 12:16:49

I've always believed that the best antiban is no antiban at all. I'd rather mimic a hardcore player who tries to play to max efficiency instead.

And for those who call randomization in clicks antiban, no I didn't mean leaving those out.

Le_don

2013-03-05 08:39:01

From: DaWu
I've always believed that the best antiban is no antiban at all. I'd rather mimic a hardcore player who tries to play to max efficiency instead.

And for those who call randomization in clicks antiban, no I didn't mean leaving those out.



Hows that working for you??

DaWu

2013-03-05 11:13:54

From: Le_don
Hows that working for you??


Well, I don't get banned its that simple.

Le_don

2013-03-05 12:00:16

From: DaWu
Well, I don't get banned its that simple.

How long do you bot for etc?