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Looks like they've gone hard. I know a couple people have been hit :(

The War against Bots Continues
14 hours ago


We recently introduced the next phase of our anti-bot technology Botwatch, and it's already showing its teeth in the battle against botting activity in RuneScape. Last night alone, we conducted a mass ban of no less than 20,000 gold farming accounts. This is a huge blow against gold farming, and you should see the difference in game right away. These new anti-bot systems aren?t limited to gold farmers, however - users of 3rd party clients and botting software are also being aggressively targeted by the newly updated Botwatch.

Of course, this is just one victory in the ongoing war against botting. Our zero-tolerance policy stands, and we won't rest while botting and gold-farming exists in your game. It's an ever-evolving race, but with hard work and the support of the community, we'll stay well ahead of the game. We're already working on the next phase of anti-bot tech, which we're looking forward to rolling out over the coming months.

The RuneScape Team

Zero tolerance? What happens to 3 strikes?

Scary stuff, I wish I knew how it worked. Perhaps it's what that guy from Powerbot was talking about, monitoring the way people do these repetitive tasks in Runescape and comparing them with other players to see if mouse movements, click types, idle time (ect), matches near-perfect with multiple other accounts.

If that's the case (only a theory) then public scripts are at risk. I can think of a few ways they'd go about macro detection, and honestly, that's the best case scenario.

Edit:
It must have been very recent. This morning I was ranked in the top 4,000 in Magic, I'm now ranked in the top 1,500, and I'm well over 40,000,000 Magic XP. So what kind of gold-farmers use that much Magic? Super-heaters perhaps?

From: Flight
Scary stuff, I wish I knew how it worked. Perhaps it's what that guy from Powerbot was talking about, monitoring the way people do these repetitive tasks in Runescape and comparing them with other players to see if mouse movements, click types, idle time (ect), matches near-perfect with multiple other accounts.

If that's the case (only a theory) then public scripts are at risk. I can think of a few ways they'd go about macro detection, and honestly, that's the best case scenario.

Yeah its really hard to say. Like why would PB get hit super hard at LRC and none for us? Is it the human-like qualities of the scripts? Is it the number of people using it? Is it the client itself?

These new anti-bot systems aren?t limited to gold farmers, however - users of 3rd party clients and botting software are also being aggressively targeted by the newly updated Botwatch.

I wonder how they're going about detecting 3rd party clients.

I'm still dubious that they detect 3rd party clients, because if they could then we would have seen bans. I think the most likely reason is Jagex targeting specific scripts that have many users.

From: BMWxi
I'm still dubious that they detect 3rd party clients, because if they could then we would have seen bans. I think the most likely reason is Jagex targeting specific scripts that have many users.

It seems that way. If worst comes to worst I have no problem at all running my Herb-Farmer in the normal client.

Has anyone heard any word from Powerbot on any bans they've had lately? I imagine if there's anyone complaining of being banned, it's PB users.

From: Flight
It seems that way. If worst comes to worst I have no problem at all running my Herb-Farmer in the normal client.

Has anyone heard any word from Powerbot on any bans they've had lately? I imagine if there's anyone complaining of being banned, it's PB users.

Apparently tons of bans reported for LRC, GOP, and grotworms in the past day or so

From: Ashaman88
Apparently tons of bans reported for LRC, GOP, and grotworms in the past day or so

I suppose that would explain why my Magic (and Smithing level as well!) level has jumped up; super-heating ores in the LRC. I'm assuming 'Grotworms' are also killed via a PB script; do those script use Magic to kill them? If so then that makes sense as well.

See guys
Those who paid $2-$5 for x amount of memberships to vote for 'Oldschool 07 Servers', most likely contributed to Jagex's ability to hire and pay people/put bot watch on more places now.

people have been banned playing legit in the powerbot client I have heard.

From: tristen8878
people have been banned playing legit in the powerbot client I have heard.

I'm guessing their account was already marked for execution, and they just happened to be playing legit when the sentence was carried out.

From: BMWxi
I'm guessing their account was already marked for execution, and they just happened to be playing legit when the sentence was carried out.

I thought the sentence carry out occurred as soon as the mark for execution is set aside. Do they analyze their findings in non-real time to determine who's a bot?

Good thing all those powerbot users that pay for scripts, are getting banned. We got the same scripts here for free but they say we suck. Look at us now powerban, no bans at all from using scripts here..

From: BMWxi
I'm guessing their account was already marked for execution, and they just happened to be playing legit when the sentence was carried out.

Or the client itself is being detected….and since it is identified as Powerbot's client they do not have to connect too many dots to say you were botting.

IMHO Jagex is carrying on the personal war with Mister Paris & his team…and yes I believe it is personal. I think they (Jagex) are not trying to shut Powerbot down 100% at the moment, but is rather using the "death by a million cuts" strategy to make the leadership at Powerbot pay in pain ending eventually in an Implosion from within the PB community itself….

Just my opinion…I do not have any inside info….but if I were Jagex and had the "history" between these two camps that they have then THIS would likely be my preferred strategy…..as it is much more satisfying this way.

Just a thought.

From: Silentcore
Good thing all those powerbot users that pay for scripts, are getting banned. We got the same scripts here for free but they say we suck. Look at us now powerban, no bans at all from using scripts here..

They say we suck…and I am inclined to allow them to believe that…. most of them (not all of course) are simply Jerks behind a Keyboard….who would cower if they were in the same room as you, But are Junior Bad Asses when they are behind an avatar on a computer.

From: Silentcore
Good thing all those powerbot users that pay for scripts, are getting banned. We got the same scripts here for free but they say we suck. Look at us now powerban, no bans at all from using scripts here..

I was thinking what would happen to us now
Because you have all these confused and New people from PB/EB joining this community and making threads like '[PP] [BUYING] $10 FOR WCER PLZ [MUST BANK]"

Hopefully major RS 07 scripts are not released here to the new comers that either: Joined in the past week or decided to go online for the first time even though they have join dates back from 2006-2012

From: krasniy
They say we suck…and I am inclined to allow them to believe that…. most of them (not all of course) are simply Jerks behind a Keyboard….who would cower if they were in the same room as you, But are Junior Bad Asses when they are behind an avatar on a computer.

Exactly, I also wouldn't be surprised that a member from their community is watching them with them trying out there very own scripts..

From: nivek1989
I thought the sentence carry out occurred as soon as the mark for execution is set aside. Do they analyze their findings in non-real time to determine who's a bot?

From: krasniy
Or the client itself is being detected….and since it is identified as Powerbot's client they do not have to connect too many dots to say you were botting.

IMHO Jagex is carrying on the personal war with Mister Paris & his team…and yes I believe it is personal. I think they (Jagex) are not trying to shut Powerbot down 100% at the moment, but is rather using the "death by a million cuts" strategy to make the leadership at Powerbot pay in pain ending eventually in an Implosion from within the PB community itself….

Just my opinion…I do not have any inside info….but if I were Jagex and had the "history" between these two camps that they have then THIS would likely be my preferred strategy…..as it is much more satisfying this way.

Just a thought.

The only reason that I can think of is that they ban then in waves, or that there is a short wait between the botting and the analyzing. Not sure though.

From: Silentcore
Good thing all those powerbot users that pay for scripts, are getting banned. We got the same scripts here for free but they say we suck. Look at us now powerban, no bans at all from using scripts here..

Of course they say we suck. When you say, "Good thing they lost their money" it doesn't make us look good. It makes you look like a child.

From: Flight
Scary stuff, I wish I knew how it worked. Perhaps it's what that guy from Powerbot was talking about, monitoring the way people do these repetitive tasks in Runescape and comparing them with other players to see if mouse movements, click types, idle time (ect), matches near-perfect with multiple other accounts.

If that's the case (only a theory) then public scripts are at risk. I can think of a few ways they'd go about macro detection, and honestly, that's the best case scenario.

Edit:
It must have been very recent. This morning I was ranked in the top 4,000 in Magic, I'm now ranked in the top 1,500, and I'm well over 40,000,000 Magic XP. So what kind of gold-farmers use that much Magic? Super-heaters perhaps?

That's some very big gains there!

It's quite frightening to see such vast action being taken!

From: tif
Of course they say we suck. When you say, "Good thing they lost their money" it doesn't make us look good. It makes you look like a child.

Well Im not saying it directly but what I actually ment to say was that they say we suck and that our scripts are bad but look at them, they got banned with their super undetectable scripts which they say they have..

From: tif
Of course they say we suck. When you say, "Good thing they lost their money" it doesn't make us look good. It makes you look like a child.

Hey man, are you a powerban fan?

At least I stopped botting EoCscape when 07 came out ^_^

From: Flight
Perhaps it's what that guy from Powerbot was talking about, monitoring the way people do these repetitive tasks in Runescape and comparing them with other players to see if mouse movements, click types, idle time (ect), matches near-perfect with multiple other accounts.

I guess according to that all public scripts should use random wait by username, what i mean, convert username/login email. to integer and add that value to random wait values maybe include some randomness in points. so each waiting idle will be totally different and effect to performance will be small since value will be added in ms. lets say algorithm of converting it will return value up to 1000ms. it's pretty much something :DD

I bet they detect by all the people using the scripts and whether it is human-like. I was testing out a PB auto-fighter that is well used and it was getting a crazy amount of kills. But it looked way too botlike. Time to start using Simba!

This is why I bot in areas where there are RARELY people around. Means not a lot of people are using the same script, therefore I stay under the radar.

Why would you bot at LRC when theres like 20 people at a time there. Obviously you're just asking to be banned. I don't feel pity for those people who got hit. Especially at grotworms. Why would you use your main to bot them. CLEARLY goldfarmers are using them for money and it was just a matter of time.

Oh well.

From: krasniy
Or the client itself is being detected….and since it is identified as Powerbot's client they do not have to connect too many dots to say you were botting.

IMHO Jagex is carrying on the personal war with Mister Paris & his team…and yes I believe it is personal. I think they (Jagex) are not trying to shut Powerbot down 100% at the moment, but is rather using the "death by a million cuts" strategy to make the leadership at Powerbot pay in pain ending eventually in an Implosion from within the PB community itself….

Just my opinion…I do not have any inside info….but if I were Jagex and had the "history" between these two camps that they have then THIS would likely be my preferred strategy…..as it is much more satisfying this way.

Just a thought.

I'm sure Jacmob wants to stick it to Paris for not letting him buy the website.

From: Neznam
This is why I bot in areas where there are RARELY people around. Means not a lot of people are using the same script, therefore I stay under the radar.

Why would you bot at LRC when theres like 20 people at a time there. Obviously you're just asking to be banned. I don't feel pity for those people who got hit. Especially at grotworms. Why would you use your main to bot them. CLEARLY goldfarmers are using them for money and it was just a matter of time.

Oh well.

Hello 100m mining xp :)

From: Laimonas171
I guess according to that all public scripts should use random wait by username, what i mean, convert username/login email. to integer and add that value to random wait values maybe include some randomness in points. so each waiting idle will be totally different and effect to performance will be small since value will be added in ms. lets say algorithm of converting it will return value up to 1000ms. it's pretty much something :DD

For sure bud. We'll have to start thinking much more random and user-defined soon it seems. I would only imagine aspects of a script in this manner will simply be a requirement then. Pro human-like anti-bans, very custom mouse movement & idle time, and script-specific details like the order in which a task is done; these should all be as dynamic as possible, alternating between every user.

I've worked a lot of this into my Herb-Farmer and there's still areas I can improve upon in this manner. I shall certainly do so. :)

From: Flight
For sure bud. We'll have to start thinking much more random and user-defined soon it seems. I would only imagine aspects of a script in this manner will simply be a requirement then. Pro human-like anti-bans, very custom mouse movement & idle time, and script-specific details like the order in which a task is done; these should all be as dynamic as possible, alternating between every user.

I've worked a lot of this into my Herb-Farmer and there's still areas I can improve upon in this manner. I shall certainly do so. :)

Flight: More humanlike than actual humans :p

I guess the day's of going for the absolute fastest XP / collecting of stuff, are coming to an end, it's going to become more about who can look the most human

From: Flight
For sure bud. We'll have to start thinking much more random and user-defined soon it seems. I would only imagine aspects of a script in this manner will simply be a requirement then. Pro human-like anti-bans, very custom mouse movement & idle time, and script-specific details like the order in which a task is done; these should all be as dynamic as possible, alternating between every user.

I've worked a lot of this into my Herb-Farmer and there's still areas I can improve upon in this manner. I shall certainly do so. :)

I like it! Much support! I try to incorporate lots of randomness in my scripts, but I agree that we should start making it way more dynamic and individual between users.

From: DannyRS
More humanlike than actual humans

YES.

:p

Not sure if im just paranoid but I renamed simba so if jagex gets the ability to detect running programs then they wont see anything but "Itunes.exe" running.

Alot of them were manual perm bans, jacmob has been at Lrc for over 20hrs now banning people, And the bans come in waves. They are not constant at all. 2 months ago big bans, then non, 2 weeks ago bans , none since.

Then yesturday alot of bans. The lack of consistent bans makes me think its not as automatic as most think it is. I believe its requires alot of manual work to be done right now. And thats why we only see the bans in waves.

:( all the goldfarmers are gone so now I can't buy supplies that instant bought at mid lol.

From: Neznam
This is why I bot in areas where there are RARELY people around. Means not a lot of people are using the same script, therefore I stay under the radar.

Why would you bot at LRC when theres like 20 people at a time there. Obviously you're just asking to be banned. I don't feel pity for those people who got hit. Especially at grotworms. Why would you use your main to bot them. CLEARLY goldfarmers are using them for money and it was just a matter of time.

Oh well.

I bot at LRC and didn't get any bans, and I ask for because it runs 24/7 + very small breaks (then usual).. and guess I have like 4 accounts 13m+ exp. I doing the same thing with Woodcuting 24/7 and have more then 7 accounts with 99wc some of them even have all skills 1 except wc of course.

I started out botting using EB and Rarebot about a year back EB is and always has been a failure lols and Rarebot had too much downtime same as EB but when the bots were up to date and running god like I hit 97 thieving botting for almost two months strait at the farmers same thing with attackers at alkarid or whatever the town is with them guards and nothing ever happened but you guys are right I notice a lot of scripts if for example it turns the camera angel it turns it then turns it back next loop it does the same exact thing now I'm sorry but if your playing runescape legit your not going to turn your camera angel to the right by 30 degrees and to the left by 40 degrees exact on the dot for 20+ hrs strait and if you are fighting a monster for example Cockroaches when you kill all the roaches it has the character wait in the middle at the same exact tile every time you are waiting for a spawn so yeah I think you guys are right I just never said anything cuz i'm not going to bash anyone's script

From: Angel Heart
Not sure if im just paranoid but I renamed simba so if jagex gets the ability to detect running programs then they wont see anything but "Itunes.exe" running.

That's actually really clever. You should maybe write a guide to doing that!

From: Benny
That's actually really clever. You should maybe write a guide to doing that!

lol I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Cause it ain't easy renaming something.

From: Rincewind
lol I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Cause it ain't easy renaming something.

Not sarcastic!

I think it would be awesome to know how to do it!

I certainly have no idea whatsoever on how to change these things so it would be appreciated.

Did you rename the .exe, or the process itself? Renaming the process could be fairly useful if they do start to read our running processes to try and determine if we're botting.

From: Rincewind
I bet they detect by all the people using the scripts and whether it is human-like. I was testing out a PB auto-fighter that is well used and it was getting a crazy amount of kills. But it looked way too botlike. Time to start using Simba!

I kinda think this is because most people who script(paid scripters) for powerbot have never played the game before, though they are very intelligent scripters, they don't try to act like a normal player.

Simba scripter's (most likely) play the game and replicate their bot to play like they normally would play. (this is what I do anyway) Maybe i am wrong about this though :)

From: mcbain
I kinda think this is because most people who script(paid scripters) for powerbot have never played the game before, though they are very intelligent scripters, they don't try to act like a normal player.

Simba scripter's (most likely) play the game and replicate their bot to play like they normally would play. (this is what I do anyway) Maybe i am wrong about this though :)

this is a fairly valid comment to make sir.

I also think it's easier to act more human like when the script is written not to hop to random preset points - admittedly we can do this but we tend not to as it has been proven to be bannable

I add this to all the public scripts I use, acts just like an antiban except it is for idle times and reactions.

procedure Reaction;
 var
 i: Integer;
begin
  if not loggedIn then Exit;
  i := Random(150);
  case i of
  1: Wait(RandomRange(2000,3000));
  2: Wait(RandomRange(100,400));
  3: Wait(RandomRange(150,300));
  4: Wait(RandomRange(100,150));
  5: Wait(RandomRange(500,700));
  6: Wait(RandomRange(2000,8000));
  7: PickUpMouse;
  8: PickUpMouse;
  9: RandomRClick;
  10:RandomRClick;
  11:Wait(RandomRange(10,100));
  12:Wait(RandomRange(300,800));
  13:Wait(RandomRange(200,210));
  14:Wait(RandomRange(1,10));
  15:Wait(RandomRange(1000,2500));
  end;
end;