SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

This is the location to discuss the various pronounciations of various words. Keep in mind that others may not share your opinion, and you should respect theirs too.

Please post how you pronounce them, remember to spell phonetically. :)

Format

Word
Your Pronunciation
Other Pronunciations that you've heard
Why You Think Your Way Is Right


Example
GIF
gif
jif
I think gif is right because I have usually heard it like that and jif sound's weird to me, even though the creators of the gif pronounce it jif.

Meme is meant to be pronounced (pron.: /?mi?m/; meem), but I went from saying MEEEMEEE to mem, both of which are wrong. :o

From: Runehack123
Meme is meant to be pronounced (pron.: /?mi?m/; meem), but I went from saying MEEEMEEE to mem, both of which are wrong. :o

It is Me Me, Me and another student had a long discussion at school.

From: John
It is Me Me, Me and another student had a long discussion at school.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dErjFPTarc

Have a look there John. It's pronounced meeeem. :o

From: John
It is Me Me, Me and another student had a long discussion at school.

From: Runehack123
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dErjFPTarc

Have a look there John. It's pronounced meeeem. :o

It's definitely "meem." I don't like those "pronunciation book" videos, but it's most definitely "meem." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme gives the pronunciation, and the first citation explains it again.

Wikipedia is an invalid source ;D

From: John
Wikipedia is an invalid source ;D

Okay, how about the Oxford University Press? http://books.google.com/books?id=WkHO9HI7koEC&pg=PA192&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false second paragraph (counting starting from paragraphs started on that page).

From: BMWxi
This is the location to discuss the various pronounciations of various words. Keep in mind that others may not share your opinion, and you should respect theirs too.

Please post how you pronounce them, remember to spell phonetically. :)

Format

Word
Your Pronunciation
Other Pronunciations that you've heard
Why You Think Your Way Is Right


Example
GIF
gif
jif
I think gif is right because I have usually heard it like that and jif sound's weird to me, even though the creators of the gif pronounce it jif.

It's fine if you think it sounds right, but you're wrong

http://www.olsenhome.com/gif/

normally I look up a word to check how it should be said, and respect the creators.

From: grats
It's fine if you think it sounds right, but you're wrong

http://www.olsenhome.com/gif/

normally I look up a word to check how it should be said, and respect the creators.

Normally I'd side with the creators, but the G in gif stands for graphical, which is a hard G. Hence why I chose gif over jif :)

From: BMWxi
Normally I'd side with the creators, but the G in gif stands for graphical, which is a hard G. Hence why I chose gif over jif :)

That does make sense, and it's been the argument for 10+ years.. I prefer saying jif just because of how many people say it incorrectly. I'm sure the creator says it should be pronounced "jif" just to rustle peoples jimmies himself.

I can't really think of anything that has had more discussion on how it's said

From: grats
That does make sense, and it's been the argument for 10+ years.. I prefer saying jif just because of how many people say it incorrectly. I'm sure the creator says it should be pronounced "jif" just to rustle peoples jimmies himself.

I can't really think of anything that has had more discussion on how it's said

I say "gif" because I'm not talking about peanut butter.

do you also say 'you are' because you can't figure out whether it's your or you're in a sentence?

From: grats
do you also say 'you are' because you can't figure out whether it's your or you're in a sentence?

No, choosy mom's choose jif. I'm not a choosy mom. <3

From: i luffs yeww
No, choosy mom's choose jif. I'm not a choosy mom. <3

what about rein, rain, reign, too, two, to.. do you have to spell those out when you talk?

From: grats
what about rein, rain, reign, too, two, to.. do you have to spell those out when you talk?

No.

Alright, just checking my thoughts to make sure I was correct in viewing your original post as stupid

From: i luffs yeww
Okay, how about the Oxford University Press? http://books.google.com/books?id=WkHO9HI7koEC&pg=PA192&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false second paragraph (counting starting from paragraphs started on that page).

Ok ok, Even though it doesn't make much sense to me :P
(i'm still saying me me :))

My mother tongue being french, I have a few weird experiences with pronunciation. Therefore, I'll use this thread to suggest to change the pronunciation of some words to avoid having other people face the same disarray I did.

First, the "th" sound should be eradicated and forgotten.

In high school, at the middle of an English class, for whatever reason (I don't remember the subject), I exclaimed myself "I'm Guy The Turd", attempting to proudly say I'm the third person in a row in my lineage with the name Guy. Yes, major fail.

Also, something is absolutely wrong with the way you guys say lieutenant. How the hell does it turn into lou-te-nant? For about 4 seasons of Star Trek, I was convinced Loutenant was the name of a character that had no screen time at all but was mentioned all the time (like "You'll go on this mission with Loutenant.").

Lastly, why do you say "wind" as "wend", but "rewind" as, well, "rewind"?

I hate you all.

From: Wardancer
My mother tongue being french, I have a few weird experiences with pronunciation. Therefore, I'll use this thread to suggest to change the pronunciation of some words to avoid having other people face the same disarray I did.

First, the "th" sound should be eradicated and forgotten.

In high school, at the middle of an English class, for whatever reason (I don't remember the subject), I exclaimed myself "I'm Guy The Turd", attempting to proudly say I'm the third person in a row in my lineage with the name Guy. Yes, major fail.

But there are too many words that use the letters "th". You can't replace all of them :D

From: Wardancer

Also, something is absolutely wrong with the way you guys say lieutenant. How the hell does it turn into lou-te-nant? For about 4 seasons of Star Trek, I was convinced Loutenant was the name of a character that had no screen time at all but was mentioned all the time (like "You'll go on this mission with Loutenant.").

I agree that there is something wrong with lieutenant. Except in Canada (and all the other commonwealth countries & UK) it's pronounced "leftenant" for some weird reason (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant#Pronunciation)

Afaik, it's only pronounced "Loutenant" in the US

From: Wardancer

Lastly, why do you say "wind" as "wend", but "rewind" as, well, "rewind"?

I hate you all.

I say wind like "Winned" (As in I winned a trophy for my grammar :D)

Rewind is pronounced rewind because historically it meant to "re-wind" as in to wind something up (think wind-up toy :D)

From: BMWxi

Rewind is pronounced rewind because historically it meant to "re-wind" as in to wind something up (think wind-up toy :D)

That's the issue I have! The i of wind and rewind are different! Blasphemy!

From: Wardancer
That's the issue I have! The i of wind and rewind are different! Blasphemy!

the "wind" in rewind can also be pronounced like "whined", afaik it's the same sound :)

From: BMWxi
the "wind" in rewind can also be pronounced like "whined", afaik it's the same sound :)

Really? That's not what I hear though.

By the way, leftenant is just as awkward. No idea how you guys turn "lieu" (two syllables in french, probably the language you took the word from) into one random syllable.

From: Wardancer
Really? That's not what I hear though.

I guess it's different for every place.

From: Wardancer

By the way, leftenant is just as awkward. No idea how you guys turn "lieu" (two syllables in french, probably the language you took the word from) into one random syllable.

I'm with you on that one, makes no sense to me either :p

From: Wikipedia
Middle English spellings suggest that the /lju?-/ and /l?f-/ pronunciations may have existed even then.[2] The rare Old French variant spelling luef for Modern French lieu ('place') supports the suggestion that a final [w] of the Old French word was in certain environments perceived as an [f].[2]

Bagel. Ive heard it pronounced "beg-el" should be pronounced "bag-el"

Jalapeño. I constantly head it pronounced "Ja-lep-N-O" should be "Hal-a-peen-yo"

Battery. My friend pronounced is "Bat-tree" should be "Batter-ee"

Wendy. Ive head it pronounced "Windy" should be "When-dee"

Scissors. Ive heard it pronounced "Skizzors" should be "sizzers"

Debian:
Dehb-ee-yuhn
Deeh-biyun
This is how the devs pronounce it, named after the creator's then girlfriend, must be kinda awkward, having one of the most widely used (if you count ubuntu as deb-based) Linux distros named after your Ex.

Ubuntu:
oo-boo-ntoo
oo-buh-ntoo
Also how devs pronounce it, it is an African word and this is most likely the reason for the pronunciation.

Linux:
Lih-nuhks
Leeh-nuhks
Named after Linus(Leeh-nus) Torvalds, this is a forgivable mistake, however Lih-nuhks is the standardized way of pronouncing the name.

GNU:
Newh
guh-Newh
The G is silent, but some people still kinda pronounce it with the G.

# (on another, but very similiar vein):
Hashtag
Crunch, bang, number sign, etc …
Perhaps more opinion than anything else, it seems theres no real standard here. "Hashtag" is however the one true way.

From: Wardancer
My mother tongue being french, I have a few weird experiences with pronunciation. Therefore, I'll use this thread to suggest to change the pronunciation of some words to avoid having other people face the same disarray I did.

First, the "th" sound should be eradicated and forgotten.


In high school, at the middle of an English class, for whatever reason (I don't remember the subject), I exclaimed myself "I'm Guy The Turd", attempting to proudly say I'm the third person in a row in my lineage with the name Guy. Yes, major fail.

Also, something is absolutely wrong with the way you guys say lieutenant. How the hell does it turn into lou-te-nant? For about 4 seasons of Star Trek, I was convinced Loutenant was the name of a character that had no screen time at all but was mentioned all the time (like "You'll go on this mission with Loutenant.").

Lastly, why do you say "wind" as "wend", but "rewind" as, well, "rewind"?

I hate you all.

Idk :p French is weird. With all of the eiuox's and iuox, and eaux's,( Yes, I did them wrong) I never know how to pronounce anything.

From: Hobbit
Bagel. Ive heard it pronounced "beg-el" should be pronounced "bag-el"

Jalapeño. I constantly head it pronounced "Ja-lep-N-O" should be "Hal-a-peen-yo"

Battery. My friend pronounced is "Bat-tree" should be "Batter-ee"

Wendy. Ive head it pronounced "Windy" should be "When-dee"

Scissors. Ive heard it pronounced "Skizzors" should be "sizzers"

Haha Skizzors :)
I've heard "liberry" for library

From: DrChill
Debian:
Dehb-ee-yuhn
Deeh-biyun
This is how the devs pronounce it, named after the creator's then girlfriend, must be kinda awkward, having one of the most widely used (if you count ubuntu as deb-based) Linux distros named after your Ex.

Ubuntu:
oo-boo-ntoo
oo-buh-ntoo
Also how devs pronounce it, it is an African word and this is most likely the reason for the pronunciation.

Linux:
Lih-nuhks
Leeh-nuhks
Named after Linus(Leeh-nus) Torvalds, this is a forgivable mistake, however Lih-nuhks is the standardized way of pronouncing the name.

GNU:
Newh
guh-Newh
The G is silent, but some people still kinda pronounce it with the G.

# (on another, but very similiar vein):
Hashtag
Crunch, bang, number sign, etc …
Perhaps more opinion than anything else, it seems theres no real standard here. "Hashtag" is however the one true way.

+1 for following format :D

Following your theme:

Xubuntu
Zoobuntu
exubuntu
I use Zoobuntu because it sounds nicer, and I also use loobuntu for Lubuntu. I really don't know if I'm right though :)

From: Sawyer
Idk :p French is weird. With all of the eiuox's and iuox, and eaux's,( Yes, I did them wrong) I never know how to pronounce anything.

French makes much more sense than English.

From: Hobbit
French makes much more sense than English.

I think German makes the most sense :)

I've never really had much experience with German aside from playing RS on the German servers for ahwile due to less people when they first came out :p

Apparently Greek is thought to be a grammatically perfect language by most linguists. It has like 8 tenses or something like that. Whether or not this is true I'm not sure but that's what a couple of linguistic majors at my uni have told me.

From: DrChill
Debian:
Dehb-ee-yuhn
Deeh-biyun
This is how the devs pronounce it, named after the creator's then girlfriend, must be kinda awkward, having one of the most widely used (if you count ubuntu as deb-based) Linux distros named after your Ex.

Ubuntu:
oo-boo-ntoo
oo-buh-ntoo
Also how devs pronounce it, it is an African word and this is most likely the reason for the pronunciation.

Linux:
Lih-nuhks
Leeh-nuhks
Named after Linus(Leeh-nus) Torvalds, this is a forgivable mistake, however Lih-nuhks is the standardized way of pronouncing the name.

GNU:
Newh
guh-Newh
The G is silent, but some people still kinda pronounce it with the G.

# (on another, but very similiar vein):
Hashtag
Crunch, bang, number sign, etc …
Perhaps more opinion than anything else, it seems theres no real standard here. "Hashtag" is however the one true way.

debian as in debra + Ian (the names) correct? (I find your pronunciations confusing)

and linux like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSQ4L-fGH5k


I'm bad at the GNU, anything with all caps I say each letter.. G.N.U. G.U.I. etc



one that I used to hear in Oregon a lot:
height vs heith.. hear a lot of people say "heith" as in "what is the heith of that building" instead of height -.-

not so much now, I live in a very well educated part of Colorado though, when I was in Oregon down in the south part I think it's still the drug baby capital of the world, lol..

From: Hobbit
French makes much more sense than English.

Everything makes more sense than English O_O
The only reason I like English is because we literally make up words on the spot, for everything in existence.. there are lots of languages that don't have words for certain things.
IMO that makes it an amazing language… and naturally one of the difficult ones to learn… with all of our rule breaking
i before e except after c
weird etc break the rule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_before_E_except_after_C

I think what appeals to me about German is how similar the grammatical structure of simple sentences is to English.

For example

English:

I have a green train

German:

Ich habe einen grünen Zug

That, and compound nouns :D

English:

Gloves

German:

Handschuhe

(Literally Hand-Shoes :D)

This should be renamed "Why English is stupid thread".

I pronounce all the letters in the word salmon. Sal - mon, unlike people who pronounce it like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9x0o-qOCcM

i always pronounce it gif, i've never even heard jif before.

heres a few of my favorites from midwest US

i've heard washer pronounced
'war-sher'

toilet being pronounced 'tor-let'

and then there is always the fun of someone saying 'spacific Ocean' instead of Pacific Ocean

From: grats

Everything makes more sense than English O_O
The only reason I like English is because we literally make up words on the spot, for everything in existence.. there are lots of languages that don't have words for certain things.
IMO that makes it an amazing language… and naturally one of the difficult ones to learn… with all of our rule breaking
i before e except after c
weird etc break the rule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_before_E_except_after_C

I before E except after C and when sounding like A ex. in neighbor and weigh

only reason i've been able to remember that is from a joke someone said 'I before E except after C and when sounding like A in neighbor and weigh, on Weekends and Holidays and all throughout may, but you'll always be wrong no matter what you say'

Let's rename the thread to "Why language X is stupid", then?

I'll begin:
The Norwegian language is stupid because we have 9 different ways of saying "I" as in "I am": "Jeg er", "Eg e", "Æ er", "I er" and so on (I don't know the rest, but there's a lot of them).
The Norwegian language is stupid because "married" and "poison" is the same exact word, just pronounced differently; "gift". "Jeg er gift" means either "I am poison" or "I am married".

From: Megaleech
i always pronounce it gif, i've never even heard jif before.

heres a few of my favorites from midwest US

i've heard washer pronounced
'war-sher'

toilet being pronounced 'tor-let'

and then there is always the fun of someone saying 'spacific Ocean' instead of Pacific Ocean




I before E except after C and when sounding like A ex. in neighbor and weigh

only reason i've been able to remember that is from a joke someone said 'I before E except after C and when sounding like A in neighbor and weigh, on Weekends and Holidays and all throughout may, but you'll always be wrong no matter what you say'

vein

debian as in debra + Ian (the names) correct? (I find your pronunciations confusing)

and linux like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSQ4L-fGH5k

Yes and yes.

Hmm, wikipedia has a standard pronunciation table thing, although it's confusing until you learn it(or just use it as a reference).

Whilst learning Japanese I constantly saw things that made more sense than in English, which is why I'm glad I'm a native English speaker. Japanese has standardized pronunciation, there's one way of pronouncing words. The only reason Japanese is one of the harder languages to learn is because they have 2k plus symbols.

From: Wardancer
My mother tongue being french, I have a few weird experiences with pronunciation. Therefore, I'll use this thread to suggest to change the pronunciation of some words to avoid having other people face the same disarray I did.

First, the "th" sound should be eradicated and forgotten.

In high school, at the middle of an English class, for whatever reason (I don't remember the subject), I exclaimed myself "I'm Guy The Turd", attempting to proudly say I'm the third person in a row in my lineage with the name Guy. Yes, major fail.

Also, something is absolutely wrong with the way you guys say lieutenant. How the hell does it turn into lou-te-nant? For about 4 seasons of Star Trek, I was convinced Loutenant was the name of a character that had no screen time at all but was mentioned all the time (like "You'll go on this mission with Loutenant.").

Lastly, why do you say "wind" as "wend", but "rewind" as, well, "rewind"?

I hate you all.

Since I know many french natives I heard them speaking english. I must say this "th" thing is a problem of you french guys. :p Others don't seem to struggle with it that much. (Not even the germans)

Edit: I hate the Hungarian language because it is useless for learning or understandinh other languages.
I hate the German language because it has a lot of capital letters. Also it is not that smooth when you speak it.
I hate the French language because I was forced to learn it :p (now I am glad)
I love the English language because it the most efficient one I can speak.

And I HATE when english natives pronounce foreign words "english".

English:
Gloves
German:
Handschuhe
(Literally Hand-Shoes :D)

I don't know why I laughed so hard at that, I'm definitely going to start and call gloves Handshoes.