SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

Modes Discussion.. Just read..


Brandon

2013-02-11 21:23:51

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/sl=0/forums.ws?15,16,529,64231248

Read it.. Do you think they're removing safemode? Someone sent me that :S Dunno why but meh..

I don't think it means anything.. J-Mods just being stupid..

rj

2013-02-11 21:29:10

Does this mean end of simba or something?

kyleinkman

2013-02-11 21:32:18

two mods said that, safemode is pointless.. hmm they should really worry about other things

Ian

2013-02-11 21:40:59

Even a £200 computer can get you out of safe mode.

You can't be in 2013 using a 2002 computer. You slow down the gaming industry.

I wish this was like survival of the fittest and we could ban those people.


How the hell is keeping a graphics option slowing down the gaming industry??

Stayon

2013-02-11 21:43:20

From: BMWxi
How the hell is keeping a graphics option slowing down the gaming industry??


Obviously 200£ doesn't buy common sense lol.

Richard

2013-02-11 21:49:32

From: BMWxi
How the hell is keeping a graphics option slowing down the gaming industry??


It means that companies have to invest more time and resources into maintaining multiple graphics options. For example, Jagex has to take fixed screen into account when designing any interface. PoPs are a really good example of how that limits the game.

EDIT: Just saw someone post that of you use anything that isn't DX that it's only down to CPU. So he's basically saying that non-Windows users have no use for a GPU… I worry for the people on that forum.

Ian

2013-02-11 22:00:36

From: Richard
It means that companies have to invest more time and resources into maintaining multiple graphics options. For example, Jagex has to take fixed screen into account when designing any interface. PoPs are a really good example of how that limits the game.

EDIT: Just saw someone post that of you use anything that isn't DX that it's only down to CPU. So he's basically saying that non-Windows users have no use for a GPU… I worry for the people on that forum.


I guess that's a fair point. Although I still think that they should find out how many people use each type before removing one of them.

Brandon

2013-02-11 22:04:06

^This.. I think Surverying who uses what would be best but RS is all bots.. Safe-Mode will always win?


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Able to play runescape on on max graphics on DirectX, no FPS issues and hardly any lag (unless both FPS/Lag is caused on Jagex's end). Really not even top of the line for gaming seeing how its outdated teck and a laptop.



Oh yeah.. Of course.. because it's normal for everyone to have 1.5 TB SSD's and 32GB Ram in a "laptop".. That guy.. Has problems.

Ian

2013-02-11 22:13:06

From: Brandon
^This.. I think Surverying who uses what would be best but RS is all bots.. Safe-Mode will always win?




Oh yeah.. Of course.. because it's normal for everyone to have 1.5 TB SSD's and 32GB Ram in a "laptop".. That guy.. Has problems.


Especially with his "Really not even top of the line for gaming seeing how its outdated teck and a laptop."

Also

From: ModLabl
Everyone loves shineys.

This explains Jagex 100% recently.

From: rjj95
Does this mean end of simba or something?

Was RS2 the end of scar/simba? No, we will just have to adapt a bit.

Flight

2013-02-11 22:50:35

From: BMWxi

Was RS2 the end of scar/simba? No, we will just have to adapt a bit.


No, it only made things more difficult while remaining possible. AFAIK Simba cannot read colors in anything except for Safe Mode (in Windows), but evidently Brandon and/or Ben have made it possible for SMART to pass along (rendered?) colors in OGL mode to Simba. I might be wrong about this, I'm not sure how it all works, but if this is the case then it proves we'll be able to adapt Simba to run (perhaps even without SMART?) normally in alternate modes.

Unless you're using Linux and running Simba through WINE, then your Simba has no problem reading colors in other modes.


My point is the change from RSC to RS2 wasn't a big deal; it simply made scripting more difficult. But removing the mode we require to run on… that's harder to work around. :/

Wardancer

2013-02-12 12:41:24

The mod clearly says that there are still uses for the safe mode: if your client keeps crashing. I see no hint of planning to remove it, but rather improve the other options.

Even if it meant the eradication of ALL bots, I don't think jagex would want to get rid of a portion of its legit player base, no matter how small it might be. That's the stance they've had for a while now.