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Hi there,

There are some problems with KeepBotting his vps service which he provides on the forum. I was already looking into it but it seems to run on illegal servers, also NKN seems to be scammed $500,- by one of the owners.

The thread: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95290

I got this pm from a member. He stated he would like to be anonymous and not to quote direct from this chat log:

I have got a little bit of info I think you should be aware of.
I wish for this convosation to be 100% anonymous and Don't directly quote chat.

First of all, Earlier today I spoke to blastika. Mainly because I was looking for some juicy info on his vps since I had been following what was going on the last few days.

you there?
[7:50:31 PM] Blastika: Yessir
[7:51:03 PM] Steven: what fourm are you selling on now?
[7:51:45 PM] Blastika: http://acebot.org/site/topic/50-rsgp-blastika-vps-sales-ace-exclusive
[7:52:21 PM] Steven: acebot? :P
[7:52:25 PM] Steven: that's a new one to me :P
[7:52:36 PM] Steven: are you going to try selling on villavu?
[7:52:46 PM] Steven: sounded like keepbotting was going to
[7:52:54 PM] Blastika: No, my vps's are going to be Ace Exclusive
[7:53:27 PM] Steven: why?  :P
[7:54:10 PM] Blastika: Trying to promote the marketplace, and i'm tired of jumping through hoops to sell on other forums
[7:54:21 PM] Steven: lol
[7:54:32 PM] Steven: are these still azures? :P
[7:54:37 PM] Blastika: 60% are
[7:55:05 PM] Blastika: But all of my customers still have their vps's up and running :)
[7:55:20 PM] Steven: so they are :P
[7:55:22 PM] Blastika: unlike the others who sell em lol
[7:55:28 PM] Steven: what are the other 40%?
[7:55:35 PM] Blastika: my vps supply.
[7:55:39 PM] Steven: so
[7:55:47 PM] Steven: the azures use vcc?
[7:55:51 PM] Blastika: I don't know.
[7:56:06 PM] Blastika: I pay a supplier for the VPS's themselves.
[7:56:15 PM] Blastika: Don't touch the azure accounts at all. :)
[7:56:28 PM] Steven: so who do you apy?
[7:56:54 PM] Blastika: Can't disclose that, contract and privacy reasons.
[7:57:07 PM] Steven: lol
[7:57:13 PM] Steven: contract/
[7:57:24 PM | Edited 7:57:25 PM] Steven: lets be honest
[7:57:30 PM] Steven: you know they're illegal
[7:57:38 PM] Steven: you just turn a blind eye right? :P
[7:58:26 PM] Blastika: The end that i receive isn't illegal, as i'm paying for it. I signed a contract with my supplier that I will not be inquistive nor give out his info to anyone else.
[7:58:45 PM] Steven: lol
[7:58:48 PM] Blastika: I can make all the guesses i want as to how he gets them, but I'll never know 100%.
[7:59:04 PM] Steven: meh
[7:59:08 PM] Steven: so how much do u pay for them?
[7:59:42 PM] Steven: seems as the guy has to get them himself (if he hacks for them or if he buys them legit he still has to manage it)
[8:01:07 PM] Blastika: I can't disclose how much I pay. :(
[8:01:16 PM] Blastika: And he hast o get them somehow lol
[8:01:52 PM] Steven: why can't you disclose how much u pay
[8:02:09 PM] Steven: can you atleast tell me how you and keep botting work together
[8:02:18 PM] Steven: do you give him commision or?
[8:03:43 PM] Blastika: He receives a solid amount per sale along with a per day amount for handling support.
[8:04:00 PM] Steven: solid amount per sale?
[8:04:50 PM] Blastika: that he handles, yes.
[8:05:12 PM] Steven: yeah but how much?
[8:06:30 PM] Blastika: I'm not going to disclose that.
[8:07:13 PM] Steven: not even a rough idea?
[8:07:29 PM] Blastika: [8:03 PM] Blastika: 

<<< He receives a solid amount per sale along with a per day amount for handling support.
[8:07:32 PM] Blastika: theres your rough idea
[8:07:36 PM] Steven: lol
[8:07:47 PM] Steven: solid amount
[8:08:00 PM] Steven: suggests he gets a good amoutn compared to what u get
[8:08:19 PM] Steven: which leads me to suggest he gets 50% or more of the profit you would have made
[8:08:47 PM] Blastika: ok. I'm very busy, can't continue our discussion.
[8:09:09 PM] Blastika: Especially since you haven't shown any intention on ordering a vps.

Nkn: I used to work for him.
[9:04:10 PM] NKN: He owes me $500

And they had an agreement that blastika wouldn't come to SRL.

However Keepbotting was/is working with blastika and was/is getting his vps off him.

I call it night for now. Will look into it tomorrow, added a warning to his thread that it currently is not active.

At the moment I think I should just close it. There are multiple people in this vps service business and KeepBotting is not in charge according to a few sources. I don't know any of the other guys except that one of them is banned. Why would we trust them if it smells so much as a scam.

What is your opinion on this?


Gr,
Bart

Confront keep botting and see what he says IMO

Can we get some confirmation of if his VPS' are legal or not? Seems very unlikely that they are legal.

Send the following message to KeepBotting:

From: masterBB
Hello KeepBotting,

I am sorry it took so long but I am in a very busy period. I wanted to delay this but I got the feeling it would be unfair towards you to uphold you any longer. I've read a bit into it, though haven't spend a lot of time on the issue, and I wanted to know a few things from you before I can give a go or a no go. Notice that after my decision I won't allow anymore questions or accusations in your thread.

So here are they:

• Is this just you? If not who are involved, how many people?
• Who offers the VPN host? Are there any people between you and the official seller?
• Maybe an odd one, are these VPNs trials? Do you got any proof they are not?
• You stated that Blastika is not involved, are there are other non villavu members involved?
• Is there anything else that might be interesting to know for us?

I would love to hear your response/answers.

Greets,
Bart de Boer

What the hell are "Azures" anyway?

Microsoft's cloud hosting.

http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/

Already send this:

From: masterBB

From: KeepBotting

• Me and my supplier.
• My supplier. Not that I know of.
• The servers themselves are free, but we pay for the accounts to create the servers on.
• Just my supplier.

Hi,

I give permision to start your VPN sales. Under one condition, I want the first post of your thread where I will state that since the supplier is not a SRL member, the risk is taken both by the seller and the buyer.

If you agree with this you can create a new thread an lock it. I will unlock it when I get first post. Please try to keep the thread title related to the contents of the thread.

Gr,
Bart

Point is there is no way we can check it, but since the 'suplier' isn't a SRL member, I would like to make a clear statement on that in his thread. Srl members who want to trade with him can decide for themselves wether or not to do this. If there is proof that this guy is selling trial servers we can ban him from the black market.

From: Daniel
What the hell are "Azures" anyway?

The problem with azures servers is that they are quite expensive compared to others. Therefor I doubt this will be the best option for rs botting. The only thing with azures is that the servers got a one month free trial, which is exact the same length as the products offered by KeepBotting.

If he gave us access to one of them would we not be able to figure out if its Azure or not? Mind you he may just give one of us a legit one.

In my opinion it would've been too much trouble. Just let people who want to offer this service buy their own vps servers, no shady deals with high end vps from random 'suppliers'. This is the srl market where srl users can trade stuff they have. This is not a market where srl users can be the portal to random people and suppliers.

Also he didn't respond to my pm, so I guess this is no longer an issue.