SRL Archive - The Bashing Club / BBQ Pit

Recently jagex has been shutting down private servers. Now you may be thinking but it's their property omg!! They r losing players!!!

This is what makes me mad. People who play private servers have lost the interest in the game. Jagex you lost them. Your not getting them back. For every server you shut down for every video you hide you turn players away. Private servers are a excellent learning tool for people learning from your great creation. It's sad people are enjoying a rip-off of your game more then the main game.


Every time jagex shuts down a server they don't gain those players back. They are just mad people are slowing turning away from their game and long for older alternatives. I think they are a little errrrr uhhh BUTTHURT

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Jagex removed the best features in the game free trade staking and the wild in 2007. Then a few years later they realize squeal of fortune after making such a big case of how much they hate RWTers and they turn around and add micro transactions. Logic?


Hopefully the owner of soulsplit will call jagex's bluff like moaparisthebest did in 2007.

I'm glad they shutdown private servers to be honest.

Imagine you spent years of you life developing or designing something that became massively popular, and then some other guy takes all of your work, and makes money off of it.

Plus, Jagex like to sue to line their pockets even more.

From: Justin
I'm glad they shutdown private servers to be honest.

Why? What do you gain from private servers getting shutdown? Nothing.

From: Richard
Imagine you spent years of you life developing or designing something that became massively popular, and then some other guy takes all of your work, and makes money off of it.

Plus, Jagex like to sue to line their pockets even more.

Actually Andrew and Paul bower were the ones who created it and they have been gone for 4 years. There's like 100 developers they haven't spent "their whole life" developing anything.

From: rjj95
Why? What do you gain from private servers getting shutdown? Nothing.

And what do you get by playing a private server when most of the owners are corrupt and do eco\player resets?

From: Justin
And what do you get by playing a private server when most of the owners are corrupt and do eco\player resets?

You compltly just avoided the question and turning it on me, do you get that from jagex?

Talk about corrupt owners when you play a game that border line goes against it's own TOS.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1T26qPwJ4hjDLtOTm2cCOA

Mod Mark commenting on RuneScape videos about buying spins…

EoC is perfect the way it is! In the meantime, buy some spins! :-)
-Mod Mark

Several more comments on the page… So lame.
RuneScape really is going down the drain…

From: rjj95
Actually Andrew and Paul bower were the ones who created it and they have been gone for 4 years. There's like 100 developers they haven't spent "their whole life" developing anything.

Paul still works there, Andrew sold his final share last year/year before. The point is that they're illegal, and making profit off something that doesn't belong to them. It's the same with piracy, I personally have no problem with it if it's non-profit.

From: Zyt3x
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1T26qPwJ4hjDLtOTm2cCOA

Mod Mark commenting on RuneScape videos about buying spins…


Several more comments on the page… So lame.
RuneScape really is going down the drain…

I do hope you realise these are fake? :P There are hundreds of these accounts, people are just trolling

From: Richard
Paul still works there, Andrew sold his final share last year/year before. The point is that they're illegal, and making profit off something that doesn't belong to them. It's the same with piracy, I personally have no problem with it if it's non-profit.



I do hope you realise these are fake? :P There are hundreds of these accounts, people are just trolling

He sold his final share. But he let the company years before

Why does every single private server insist on charging money? Man, what happened to the early server days, when we built them for fun, for learning. Now if I had to guess I'd say there's next to no F2P private servers. You guys only care about how money you can make off them. If that's the case then go Jagex, shut them all down.

If making money off players becomes the main priority of private server developers & hosts, then what's the difference between them and money-hungry Jagex? @Private server hosts: Are you so different from Jagex?

People try to get away from the greediness of Jagex by playing private servers, but it's essentially pay to win on them.

If the RSPS are making money off of it, they should be shut down. It's illegal.

From: Kyle Undefined
If the RSPS are making money off of it, they should be shut down. It's illegal.

exactly ^

Not only that, but look at it from a security standpoint. If you use a private server, you need to enable Java. If the owner decides they've siphoned enough money from players they could easily put a RAT on your pc and take whatever you have.

Private servers is the worst thing to happen, it's basically just the same as sitting next to me in an exam hall and just leaning over my shoulder to cheat…no work put into it, no imagination or creation *yawn* this is boring the person hasn't even created anything new? That's why runescape will always be on top, they actually imagine.

From: Richard
I do hope you realise these are fake? :P There are hundreds of these accounts, people are just trolling

Hm, yeah, of course.. How silly of me to not even think about that.. :p

Axel's such a derp…
Anyways, someone want to start an SRL private server? Completely f2p and relying only on donations or even better, connecting to a host computer rather than a VPs.

I used to work heavily with 317/372 servers, years ago when they were young. Anything 500+ and I'd probably be lost.

2008 would be fun, although be warned, I may use simba a little :D

From: rjj95
Actually Andrew and Paul bower were the ones who created it and they have been gone for 4 years. There's like 100 developers they haven't spent "their whole life" developing anything.

I thought he was talking about jagex.. and these "andrew/paul" guys would be the ones stealing the work..

How many players play these private servers anyway?

From: Flight
I used to work heavily with 317/372 servers, years ago when they were young. Anything 500+ and I'd probably be lost.

Exact same as you, any chance you use to play on Ub3r/Dodian?

From: Justin
Exact same as you, any chance you use to play on Ub3r/Dodian?

Yes I built most of it. :P Only Winten and I actually worked on the server, Drags and someone else (I forget) worked on the client. It was also based off my Project16 source.

From: Flight
Yes I built most of it. :P Only Winten and I actually worked on the server, Drags and someone else (I forget) worked on the client. It was also based off my Project16 source.

Holy! Drags, Danno, Wolf? I use to play the server when it was around, I Justin I \ Justin in-game, was Global Mod.. I done the client work for the skill capes.. good times

E: Just found an out.txt of the output of the server.. Good times

[client-16-I can skill]: playerCommand: yell how ong ?
[client-23-Bicurious pk]: Text [0,0]: grade
Removing 57946968503245
[client-34-Pro taper]: Time: 1229592336881, session_start: 0
[client-34-Pro taper]: Save:  Pro taper (55ms)
[client-34-Pro taper]: Logout
[client-46-Arsenal94]: Text [0,0]: i will 
ClientHandler: Client Zemmsra disconnected (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)
[client-7-0o ig10 o0]: Fatal: Internal error: unable to determine connection vertex!  wp1=(65, 70), wp2=(63, 68), first=(67, 65)
[client-7-0o ig10 o0]: Invalid waypoint in walking queue!
[client-24-The animal]: Text [0,0]: i love u all 
ClientHandler: Client Pro taper disconnected (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)
[client-6-Mage ftw122]: playerCommand: yell soz guys was not me a lil 126 he duped alot of things i gusse

When shutting the server down because someone managed to dupe something.. Geez reading the logs now makes me want to remake Dodian and host it for free with no donations ect

Ha yep, I'm Wolf. And that's right, it was Drags and Danno; I'd forgotten his name. :p Yes the server was actually shut down by legal threats from Jagex, as I discussed with Winten. I didn't want to get involved with that so I left when those letters started coming to him. I'm not sure who maintained the server after I left.

I wish I had my computer from back in the US, I have some awesome IRC quotes and funny pictures from in-game and of us all screwing around in the Dev Server. It's nice to know there's a couple of use from the Dodian community who ended up here. :p

From: Flight
Ha yep, I'm Wolf. And that's right, it was Drags and Danno; I'd forgotten his name. :p Yes the server was actually shut down by legal threats from Jagex, as I discussed with Winten. I didn't want to get involved with that so I left when those letters started coming to him. I'm not sure who maintained the server after I left.

I wish I had my computer from back in the US, I have some awesome IRC quotes and funny pictures from in-game and of us all screwing around in the Dev Server. It's nice to know there's a couple of use from the Dodian community who ended up here. :p

Wow that's amazing, There was some talk about Winten back in 2010 when he was arrested at a party (http://www.bpdnews.com/2010/03/05/frat-party-lands-ten-in-jail-for-underage-drinking-and-disturbing-the-peace/) for under-age drinking.

I could scan my backup drivers for IRC logs (I'll do that now), I might also have some pictures floating around but not too sure about that, I actually can't believe that you helped work on P16 and get Ub3r up and running. I know Danno took over Dodian when it was shut down by starting his own server up called "Exorth" (from memory @the name) but then that was taken down a few months after release. Exorth was Winten's latest server revamped to how Danno wanted it. Was successful for awhile but yeah Jagex wanted it gone

E: Some pictures I found





With some client modifications managed to load MoparScape and connect it to the server

^^Botting some flax :P





^^ Replaced the wrong model, whoops



^^Winten failing at adding items to my bank for testing skill capes

E: Chat logs I found: http://www.srljustin.com/irclogs/%23uber.txt

Oh wow, old pictures. I never heard of the drinking bust, lol that's funny… Yes I remember Danno advertising is Exorth server, although I had quit before that time. Dodian 4.0+ 3.0 was based off my P16 V4.5. By the way I didn't help work on P16, I created it and all versions of it. Project16 V1-5, CWWorld (Castle Wars world), Blitzscape, BlitzPK, Project16 RA, and my last project; Flight. Ironically enough, that's part of where I got this username. :p Fun fact.

Here's the Flight release on Rune-server:
http://www.rune-server.org/runescape-development/rs2-server/downloads/26192-flight-base-server-great-stability.html

Oh yeah, you probably didn't see me in-game as "Wolf" but if you ever heard of "Army of One", that's me as well. :p My in-game moderator.

I lol'd at the alching the yellow phat

From: Flight
Oh wow, old pictures. I never heard of the drinking bust, lol that's funny… Yes I remember Danno advertising is Exorth server, although I had quit before that time. Dodian 4.0+ 3.0 was based off my P16 V4.5. By the way I didn't help work on P16, I created it and all versions of it. Project16 V1-5, CWWorld (Castle Wars world), Blitzscape, BlitzPK, Project16 RA, and my last project; Flight. Ironically enough, that's part of where I got this username. :p Fun fact.

Here's the Flight release on Rune-server:
http://www.rune-server.org/runescape-development/rs2-server/downloads/26192-flight-base-server-great-stability.html

Oh yeah, you probably didn't see me in-game as "Wolf" but if you ever heard of "Army of One", that's me as well. :p My in-game moderator.

Wow. Can't believe it to be honest, I don't remember seeing that username around (I might of seen you on 1.0 varrock dummys or something) but my memory wouldn't recall it sadly.

Its just amazing the amount of work you have done and to see how far it went (and still growing I guess as most 317's would be using some type of P16 ect as a base).

Just found this

            if (playerName.equalsIgnoreCase("wolf")) {
                println_debug(
                        "castOnSlot: " + castOnSlot + " castOnItem: "
                        + castOnItem + " e3: " + e3 + " castSpell: " + castSpell);
            }

Sneeky little debug :P

From: Mr[S]
I lol'd at the alching the yellow phat

Hah I didn't see that until you posted it and I was confused about what you were on about :P

E: Just noticed I kinda thread-jacked this thread :\ sorry