SRL Archive - NOTA

Hey guys,

So -Benny gave me a healthy list of things to do which I wanted to do to stop being depressed. I have now decided. IT IS THE NEW YEAR. So how am I going to do this? I can't motivate myself to ride a exercise bike without doing what I love doing most. Talking on the internet.

So. Should I buy an excercise bike and add a desk? or a treadmill? Think it'l work?

GO

You really don't need a exercise bike. Just go out and get a bike and go ride. Feeling unmotivated to exercise is common with everyone, you just have to suck it up and do it. But once you do it for a few weeks and get good at it, you won't want to stop.

IMO you should go out and run/jog. You don't need anything to do it and it gives you the energy you need to get through the rest of the day.

If you really want to go out and buy a machine so you can use the internet at the same time, I'd go with the exercise bike because if you want the treadmill to run on, you'll be bouncing up and down too much to do anything.

From: Alpha Kue
You really don't need a exercise bike. Just go out and get a bike and go ride. Feeling unmotivated to exercise is common with everyone, you just have to suck it up and do it. But once you do it for a few weeks and get good at it, you won't want to stop.

IMO you should go out and run/jog. You don't need anything to do it and it gives you the energy you need to get through the rest of the day.

If you really want to go out and buy a machine so you can use the internet at the same time, I'd go with the exercise bike because if you want the treadmill to run on, you'll be bouncing up and down too much to do anything.

I work 2 jobs so I usually come back late at night, Don't really want to be out late and too tired to come back ^^ Crashing in bed would be nice.

Thanks for your input

Or you could get a gym membership for like $10/month…

You should have made a resolution last year to not get fat in the first place.

From: Nebula
Or you could get a gym membership for like $10/month…

Once again it's time I work 2 jobs 9am-10pm most days :( So realistically I can't go to my local gym as its about 20 miles away

From: KeepBotting
You should have made a resolution last year to not get fat in the first place.

I weigh 9 stone. I'm skinny as hell. Get out of my thread.

From: xtrapsp
I work 2 jobs so I usually come back late at night, Don't really want to be out late and too tired to come back ^^ Crashing in bed would be nice.

Thanks for your input

That's understandable. I myself would go with the treadmill. I've tried both (with a exercise bike, anyways) and feel like running gets you in all-around better health and shape. But like I said, running on the treadmill and using a computer at the same time will be difficult, so if you REALLY have to be on the computer at the same time, perhaps the exercise bike will be better for your situation.

From: Alpha Kue
That's understandable. I myself would go with the treadmill. I've tried both (with a exercise bike, anyways) and feel like running gets you in all-around better health and shape. But like I said, running on the treadmill and using a computer at the same time will be difficult, so if you REALLY have to be on the computer at the same time, perhaps the exercise bike will be better for your situation.

My family has a treadmill so I'l go for the bike, modify it to have a table, at least that way I can watch a film, sit on the laptop etc and casually do it. If I want to push myself further I'l use the treadmill downstairs :)

I suggest the treadmill, works for me. I run about 2.5 miles a day. Going at it for about 3 weeks now. Started jump roping as well. To get healthy, I guess eat right? Drink tons of water, and do .5 hours of exercise minimum, a day.

Hope this helps.

~Rez

Nothing better than working up a sweat doing your cardio in the parks/roads of your town/city :)

I am planning on taking these pills called POLBAX that will supply me with all the necessary vitamins and minerals so I don't have to eat anything that can potentially make me gain weight. I drink a cup of coffee for breakfast that's it and for lunch I eat a low-sugar cereal bar without nuts. Sometimes I still go on an eating frenzy, but then I always make sure I don't digest it.

if there are any shows you love watching or anyhting really like you said talking on the internet i would recomend getting a treadmill rather than a bike. cuz with the bike theres a chance youll end up just sitting and not even realizing that you havent been pedaling. thats why i would recoment a treadmill.. cuz no matter what speed you put it at all your body is active. and with that you can always get a treadmill with a tv or put it infront of a tv or a place to dock your computer

From: Runehack123
I am planning on taking these pills called POLBAX that will supply me with all the necessary vitamins and minerals so I don't have to eat anything that can potentially make me gain weight. I drink a cup of coffee for breakfast that's it and for lunch I eat a low-sugar cereal bar without nuts. Sometimes I still go on an eating frenzy, but then I always make sure I don't digest it.

My troll detector is going crazy.

However, if you are not trolling, you are crazy.

From: eska
My troll detector is going crazy.

However, if you are not trolling, you are crazy.

Just because I'm serious about my weight-loss and always try my best to lose more and look more beautiful every day doesn't mean I'm crazy. There's a lot of people just like me and I've gotten in touch with others who are in a similar situation as I am because they are unhappy with their weight. For me this is more than losing weight - it's a lifestyle. I just can't be happy with myself until I reached my perfect weight below 41.3kg.
(If you're wondering where/how I got this figure…There's this website that takes your wrist measurements, height, body fat, age, gendre into account and gives you your perfect weight. I'm not going to name this website here, because it is very personal for me and should only be revealed to people who want to be slim and beautiful!)
Until then, I'm an overweight meatsack that has a lot of work to do when it comes to looking beautiful so if you have a problem with the way I live then keep it to yourself please - there's no need to insult me and call me crazy. If anything, I'm chubby, but you shouldn't call me that either because it's rude.

From: Runehack123
Just because I'm serious about my weight-loss and always try my best to lose more and look more beautiful every day doesn't mean I'm crazy. There's a lot of people just like me and I've gotten in touch with others who are in a similar situation as I am because they are unhappy with their weight. For me this is more than losing weight - it's a lifestyle. I just can't be happy with myself until I reached my perfect weight below 41.3kg.
(If you're wondering where I got this weight…There's this website that takes your wrist measurements, height, body fat, age, gendre into account and gives you your perfect weight. I'm not going to name this website here, because it is very personal for me and should only be revealed to people who want to be slim and beautiful!)
Until then, I'm an overweight meatsack that needs a reality check so if you have a problem with the way I live then keep it to yourself please - there's no need to insult me and call me crazy. If anything, I'm chubby, but you shouldn't call me that either because it's rude.

42kg is really unhealthy

From: Mr[S]
42kg is really unhealthy

I got this number using a professional weight-loss website. The calculations are stated to be 'purely scientific and based on years of research' so between me and you Mr - I think it's clear who is more trustworthy when it comes to the solid facts of weight-loss.

From: Runehack123
I got this number using a professional weight-loss website. The calculations are stated to be 'purely scientific and based on years of research' so between me and you Mr - I think it's clear who is more trustworthy when it comes to the solid facts of weight-loss.

How tall are you may I ask? + You're age…

He's trolling you hardcore.

From: eska
He's trolling you hardcore.

I know he's trolling I just want other people to know that 42kg is seriously unhealthy, it's guys like this that make people do things they wouldn't normally

From: Mr[S]
How tall are you may I ask? + You're age…

I'm 179cm tall, male and 20 years old.

If you're planning on calculating my BMI - then you should know that this is a really inaccurate way to calculate your optimum weight and in most cases it gives extremely high results. Almost any BMI calculation will point you to an overweight value.

From: Runehack123
I'm 179cm tall, male and 20 years old.

If you're planning on calculating my BMI - then you should know that this is a really inaccurate way to calculate your optimum weight and in most cases it gives extremely high results. Almost any BMI calculation will point you to an overweight value.

OVERWEIGHT?! Are you like mentally unfit?

I was not actually thinking about BMI but as you bring it up

You're bmi at 43kg would be - 13.4 (Underweight = <18.5)

so seriously anyone who thinks 43kg is a healthy way of living needs to eat more, you must be chilly at night son

I put a pullup bar on every door in my house, I do 10 when I walk under one, that's 20 pullups everytime I go to the bathroom, 30 whenever I go get food

kicks my ass some days when I'm cooking something from scratch cuz I keep running down to my computer then back upstairs, keeps me in good shape though

From: grats
I put a pullup bar on every door in my house, I do 10 when I walk under one, that's 20 pullups everytime I go to the bathroom, 30 whenever I go get food

kicks my ass some days when I'm cooking something from scratch cuz I keep running down to my computer then back upstairs, keeps me in good shape though

That's actually a really good casual idea… Thanks!

From: xtrapsp
That's actually a really good casual idea… Thanks!

np, and yea, I'm far too lazy to actually workout, after like 30 seconds of lifting weights I'm like f this and go back to my computers

just in the past few years from doing this I've gone from being able to curl 25 pounds to being able to curl 50 pound weights with 1 arm.. so it's definitely doing a good workout

I wouldn't recommend starting at 10 if you got a few doorways, I started at 3 because it adds up fast as hell if you walk through a bunch of doorways, I add 1 every few months, might go to 11 here pretty soon

I reckon wack a table on the bike so you can message and just pedal casually whilst chatting on Skype.


I know it's hard to get into it but I reckon if you just do it once or twice you can get into it and it will really start to benefit you.

Remember it will hurt for about 1-2 weeks and then after that your body will adapt to it and you'll get much better and feel fitter

Yeah many people put off excersising for the first time because it hurts as your muscles are not shaped up for what you have just done, it's like anything you train your muscles/lungs to cope with what you are doing

I give up because I can't sit on my computer and do stuff

I should get pedals for my recliner

http://www.brookstone.com/stamina-instride-folding-pedal-exerciser?bkeid=compare|mercent|googlebaseads|search&mr:trackingCode=5A536410-F9F0-E011-B18D-001B21A69EB0&mr:referralID=NA&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=16906254444&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=46637360484&gclid=CO-Hz4ud4LQCFYpFMgodzSoAwg



whoever invented that



edit:

just bought it, I'll let you guys know how it works
probably going to mount it to the bottom of my recliner so I can rock back and forth (I always rock cuz I'm a crazy person) while I pedal

Training your body IRL is much like training strength in RS.

You can consistently train every day for regular periods of time, and achieve results that way. This is like killing the guards outside Varrock and Falador, they can be killed relatively quickly, and you gain decent experience from them.
You might need some low level armour + food to efficiently train there.
IRL equivalent is casual training like swimming, running, rowing, cycling.

Another option is to go hard and train on big things for short amounts of time, and have breaks inbetween. This equates to something like Greater Demons.
It takes a lot of effort to kill, but the exp reward is pretty good. You also require high armour, and some decent food.
IRL equivalent of this is going to the gym, with the intent of gaining muscle mass and strength.As such, you have to get a gym membership and have to eat decent food to optimise results

Overall, these two methods are pretty good, and offer similiar results when your goal is to become healthier.

The third option is for the lazy person, who doesn't really want to bother with the difficult tasks. Perfect example is killing chickens. Sure you'll kill a lot of them, but the xp gains are very small. You dont require much armour at all, and food is not required.

IRL equivalent is grats :D
The bicycle under the desk thing is great, but it wont really give you that much benefit when compared to the two methods above.


Ideally, a combination of the high intensity and consistent training is best suited for getting fit.

From: Lord
Training your body IRL is much like training strength in RS.

You can consistently train every day for regular periods of time, and achieve results that way. This is like killing the guards outside Varrock and Falador, they can be killed relatively quickly, and you gain decent experience from them.
You might need some low level armour + food to efficiently train there.
IRL equivalent is casual training like swimming, running, rowing, cycling.

Another option is to go hard and train on big things for short amounts of time, and have breaks inbetween. This equates to something like Greater Demons.
It takes a lot of effort to kill, but the exp reward is pretty good. You also require high armour, and some decent food.
IRL equivalent of this is going to the gym, with the intent of gaining muscle mass and strength.As such, you have to get a gym membership and have to eat decent food to optimise results

Overall, these two methods are pretty good, and offer similiar results when your goal is to become healthier.

The third option is for the lazy person, who doesn't really want to bother with the difficult tasks. Perfect example is killing chickens. Sure you'll kill a lot of them, but the xp gains are very small. You dont require much armour at all, and food is not required.

IRL equivalent is grats :D
The bicycle under the desk thing is great, but it wont really give you that much benefit when compared to the two methods above.


Ideally, a combination of the high intensity and consistent training is best suited for getting fit.

He put some effort into that deserves some rep

rocking while pedalling, interesting idea, it would be rather easy to forget the pedalling and just rock though. i guess doing something is better than nothing in any case. Don't be like me and do nothing XD

From: chongc
rocking while pedalling, interesting idea, it would be rather easy to forget the pedalling and just rock though. i guess doing something is better than nothing in any case. Don't be like me and do nothing XD

I rock without realizing it though, I have my whole life

Ok ok ok

Final decision:

Gonna get the bar for when I need a crap but if Grats says the pedal thing is good I'l get that AND a bike machine :)

rofl

def get the bar though, I got a bunch $15 at wal mart

the pedal thing looks pretty good though, pretty basic design with a screw that makes it harder to turn.. my legs gonna be burnin

I'll hook a chain up to it, with a turbine

power my computer
pro

From: grats
rofl

def get the bar though, I got a bunch $15 at wal mart

the pedal thing looks pretty good though, pretty basic design with a screw that makes it harder to turn.. my legs gonna be burnin

I'll hook a chain up to it, with a turbine

power my computer
pro

hook up a chain to a turbine, powerup my fleshlight

pro

Get a gym membership they have tv's attached to their bikes/treadmills etc. (At least mine does)

From: [XoL]
Get a gym membership they have tv's attached to their bikes/treadmills etc. (At least mine does)

The point was I work 2 jobs. I hardly have time for the GYM

I do what Greg does i have pullup bars going to my kitchen, room, and bathroom. 15 in and 15 out… works pretty well for baseball since i hate working out after school… if you can scrounge the time i would reccomend a gym membership though, i have one of those its a great place!

From: [XoL]
Get a gym membership they have tv's attached to their bikes/treadmills etc. (At least mine does)

Not all have tvs :P, the chain ones usally have them on the walls (in my exp)

From: The Killer
Not all have tvs :P, the chain ones usally have them on the walls (in my exp)

at mine there are just TV's everywhere and they usually allow you to change the channels as you please. but there aren't Tv's on every machine.

I honestly think simple walking is underrated. A short time after a meal each day go a walk, and if you find it boring take an some music with you.
The chin up bar is a good idea, but I think one in every day is a bit excessive though grats. :p

From: Solar
I honestly think simple walking is underrated. A short time after a meal each day go a walk, and if you find it boring take an some music with you.
The chin up bar is a good idea, but I think one in every day is a bit excessive though grats. :p

Tbh if you want to lose weight walking isn't what you want to do, yeah it keeps you slightly healthier but it wont burn the calories of what you just ate

I may not be at all good at coding, but this subject i am good at :)

I'm a level 3 qualified personal trainer and working as a self employed free lance pt/gym class instructor around the leeds, england area. I've got a client base of over one hundred paying members and counting. I do a spin class every tuesday, boxercise every wednesday and saturday/sunday alternating weekly I do a free outdoor fit program me and a friend made in the park, which probably has 30 people on it per day.

I probably write 8+ programs/diet plans per day. So I don't think adding another one on a particular day for you would make much difference.

If you're serious about getting fit/losing weight/building muscle, give me a pm and we'll sort something out for you completely free of course :)

From: BeRy
I may not be at all good at coding, but this subject i am good at :)

I'm a level 3 qualified personal trainer and working as a self employed free lance pt/gym class instructor around the leeds, england area. I've got a client base of over one hundred paying members and counting. I do a spin class every tuesday, boxercise every wednesday and saturday/sunday alternating weekly I do a free outdoor fit program me and a friend made in the park, which probably has 30 people on it per day.

I probably write 8+ programs/diet plans per day. So I don't think adding another one on a particular day for you would make much difference.

If you're serious about getting fit/losing weight/building muscle, give me a pm and we'll sort something out for you completely free of course :)

Will be using you soon, got a few questions :)

From: Mr[S]
Tbh if you want to lose weight walking isn't what you want to do, yeah it keeps you slightly healthier but it wont burn the calories of what you just ate

It will. Especially uphill walking. It can be as intense for the individual as they make it. Everything is relative to the health and fitness of the individual.
Also, have you seen those walking races? Yeah, they're right fatties…

I figured it was well built by the picture, but this pedal thing is even better looking IRL, works good too

sucks to keep my keyboard on my lap now though

From: Runehack123
I am planning on taking these pills called POLBAX that will supply me with all the necessary vitamins and minerals so I don't have to eat anything that can potentially make me gain weight. I drink a cup of coffee for breakfast that's it and for lunch I eat a low-sugar cereal bar without nuts. Sometimes I still go on an eating frenzy, but then I always make sure I don't digest it.

Pills, pills, pills. The fact of the matter is, nothing beats a balanced diet and regular exercise. Full stop.

From: Mr[S]
OVERWEIGHT?! Are you like mentally unfit?

I was not actually thinking about BMI but as you bring it up

You're bmi at 43kg would be - 13.4 (Underweight = <18.5)

so seriously anyone who thinks 43kg is a healthy way of living needs to eat more, you must be chilly at night son

There is a lot of bulls**t out there on so called "health" websites. This is literally anorexia nervosa material.

From: grats
I put a pullup bar on every door in my house, I do 10 when I walk under one, that's 20 pullups everytime I go to the bathroom, 30 whenever I go get food

kicks my ass some days when I'm cooking something from scratch cuz I keep running down to my computer then back upstairs, keeps me in good shape though

Pull-up bars are great for working out at home; I have one on my door! It may be an idea to invest in a set of dumbbells so you can target areas other than your lats/biceps.

From: Mr[S]
Tbh if you want to lose weight walking isn't what you want to do, yeah it keeps you slightly healthier but it wont burn the calories of what you just ate

Actually Solar is right, walking is a great form of exercise.

From: grats
I figured it was well built by the picture, but this pedal thing is even better looking IRL, works good too

sucks to keep my keyboard on my lap now though

Have you considered getting a standing desk? Even standing as opposed to sitting has a range of benefits beside expending more calories (such as improved glucose and triglyceride uptake from the blood). We all have custom made standing furniture at my work. It would also make it much easier to integrate an exercycle or treadmill into your setup (as your can slide them under your desk and your screen/keyboard will be at normal height).

you expect far far far far far too much of me

Trust me I own a retail shop and I used to stand from 9-7 on the tills…my dad has done it for 25 years, he now suffers from sciatica and a slipped disc (although that has nothing to do with the sciatica) well the doctors says the slipped disc was made worse by standing up all day :|

I'm not saying you should stand up all day! It's all about breaking up prolonged periods of sitting.

To be honest, the best thing you could do is change your diet for now. I've been drinking only water, cut out sweet tea, for a week straight and I've lost 10 pounds just with that.

From: Kyle Undefined
To be honest, the best thing you could do is change your diet for now. I've been drinking only water, cut out sweet tea, for a week straight and I've lost 10 pounds just with that.

Damn I have tea 2/3 times a day :o

From: Kyle Undefined
To be honest, the best thing you could do is change your diet for now. I've been drinking only water, cut out sweet tea, for a week straight and I've lost 10 pounds just with that.

Hear this all the time. Definitely not sustainable and not good for you. You are literally starving your body of all the essential macro and micro nutrients. As I said before, there is nothing better than a balanced diet and regular exercise.

What are macro and micro nutrients?
The only thing in sweet tea besides tea is sugar. No non-diabetic is going to become ill from not getting enough sugar.

Although I'm curious, is sugar a macro nutrient or a micro nutrient?

I have only one class on Tuesdays and Thursdays. On those days I choose one or two of the following to do:

Workout Routine
This workout is designed to take at least 1hr for which ever one you choose
Choose one or two muscle groups to work per day
Do the workout 3-5 times per week
1-3 minute rest in between each set

6 Pack abs (I):

15 regular crunches
15 in and outs (Fold knee and wrap arms around folded knee with only butt touching the ground)
15 full length toe touches (with butt on ground, reach up and touch toe while at the same time raising feet up)
10 each side full length side toe touches (Same as above but to the side)
Side to side holds 30 secs (Russian twists)
Sitting hold with leg kicks 30 seconds (The bicycle but with everything off the ground except butt)
Sitting hold 30 secs
Horizontal plane hold 30 secs (Plank)

As many crunches as you can to burn out the set

Do 4-8 sets

6 Pack abs (II):
Grab a bar and do the following:

15 knee raises
15 straight leg raises
15 straight leg pushes (Same as knee raises, but leg pushes out)
15 extended leg raises to bar (Same as leg raises, but leg goes farther up)
15 straight leg holds


As many straight leg raises to burn out the set

Do 4-8 sets

Bigger Chest:

15 pushups inner (Diamond pushups)
15 regular pushups
15 outer pushups (Wide arm pushups)
15 spider walk pushups (Staggered pushups)
15 Hindu pushups
15 explosive clap pushups
7 secs down and 7 secs up pushups (10)

As many pushups to burn out set

Do 4-8 sets

Leg:

15 squats
15 one leg squats each leg
21 calf raises (7 inner, 7 regular, 7 wide)
15 explosive squat jumps
1 minute wall sits

As may squats to burn out set

Do 4-8 sets


Shoulder, Back, Biceps, Triceps:

15 wide pullups
15 bicep pullups (under grip)
15 dips on top of bar (Pull up above bar and do dips)
15 inner pullups
15 second hold on bar
30 second handstand
15 handstand pushups if you can
15 wide muscle ups if you can (pull up all the way above bar)

As many pullups to burn out set

Do 4-8 sets

No protein shakes or supplements. If you do this workout 3-5 times per week and spend 1hr doing it, you will never need protein shakes or whut not to see gains

Only thing different about my diet is that I don't eat too much sugars, drink more water than soda and I stay away from burgers/fries.

From: Kyle Undefined
To be honest, the best thing you could do is change your diet for now. I've been drinking only water, cut out sweet tea, for a week straight and I've lost 10 pounds just with that.

Diet can make a huge difference, I've been cutting out the last bit of sugar in my diet recently, I got rid of most of the unhealthy stuff two years ago when I quit drinking sugar (water only now) and eating fast food. Going to kick candy finally.

I have a pullup bar in my apartment leading to the bathroom, really good way to force yourself to get a workout consistently.

And cause this is totally hilarious, enjoy:

http://www.manapotions.com/LevelUpYourFitness.html

When losing weight alcohol is your worst enemy, the sugar levels in alcohol are disgustingly high

From: THE MAYOR
Hear this all the time. Definitely not sustainable and not good for you. You are literally starving your body of all the essential macro and micro nutrients. As I said before, there is nothing better than a balanced diet and regular exercise.

LOL?

I don't drink sweet tea, does that mean I'm going to die? OH NO! do I drink too much water?

watch out guys, don't drink water or you might starve your body!

From: xdarkshadowx
Diet can make a huge difference, I've been cutting out the last bit of sugar in my diet recently, I got rid of most of the unhealthy stuff two years ago when I quit drinking sugar (water only now) and eating fast food. Going to kick candy finally.

I have a pullup bar in my apartment leading to the bathroom, really good way to force yourself to get a workout consistently.

And cause this is totally hilarious, enjoy:

http://www.manapotions.com/LevelUpYourFitness.html

yep, diet is majority of your look. working out won't get you very far unless that's all you do 24/7

From: THE MAYOR
Hear this all the time. Definitely not sustainable and not good for you. You are literally starving your body of all the essential macro and micro nutrients. As I said before, there is nothing better than a balanced diet and regular exercise.

I'm not saying only drink water, I'm saying to don't drink anything else but water.

From: BMWxi
What are macro and micro nutrients?
The only thing in sweet tea besides tea is sugar. No non-diabetic is going to become ill from not getting enough sugar.

Although I'm curious, is sugar a macro nutrient or a micro nutrient?

Macronutrients are nutrients that your body requires in large amounts (carbohydrates, protein, fat) whereas micronutrients are obviously the opposite, you require trace amounts of these nutrients (vitamins and minerals).

There are normally 3 categories of carbohydrate: monosaccharides (such as glucose and fructose) disaccharides (2 monosaccharides joined together, such as surcose), and polysaccharides (many joined together in a long chain, such as starch). Polysaccharides are sometimes referred to as 'complex' carbohydrates, whereas mono and disaccharides are 'simple'. Sugars are sometimes referred to as simple carbohydrates because because they are either mono or disaccharides. For example, surcose is table sugar (what you put in your tea) but many foods processed foods contain fructose (such as coca-cola). So sugar falls under macronutrients (hence why sugar is indented under carbohydrates on a food label).

From: Mr[S]
When losing weight alcohol is your worst enemy, the sugar levels in alcohol are disgustingly high

True. Alcohol contains 7 calories per gram, nearly double that of protein and carbohydrate (which contain 4 calories per gram), and nearly as much as fat, the most energy dense nutrient at 9 kCal/g.

From: grats
LOL?

I don't drink sweet tea, does that mean I'm going to die? OH NO! do I drink too much water?

watch out guys, don't drink water or you might starve your body!


yep, diet is majority of your look. working out won't get you very far unless that's all you do 24/7

Haha, what I was referring to is water doesn't have many nutrients in it (macro or micro). Actually diet and physical activity are just as important as each other because they are both halves of the energy balance equation (i.e., energy in and energy out). Plus, diet doesn't develop your cardiorespiratory fitness, does it?

From: Kyle Undefined
I'm not saying only drink water, I'm saying to don't drink anything else but water.

Ahh, good to hear. It just that sometimes people go on crazy fad diets hoping to lose weight (which the normally do in the short term) but it isn't healthy. For example, you will probably lose weight from a 'low carbohydrate diet' because 1g of CHO is stored with just under 3g of water, meaning of you will lose weight, but it will be water weight which you will unavoidably put back on.

The thing about the sweet tea is that it has sugar that your body doesn't need, just because you already get enough sugar from other food so the sweet tea is just extra.

I hope nobody plans on only drinking water and not eating, that's just foolish :p

From: THE MAYOR
Macronutrients are nutrients that your body requires in large amounts (carbohydrates, protein, fat) whereas micronutrients are obviously the opposite, you require trace amounts of these nutrients (vitamins and minerals).

There are normally 3 categories of carbohydrate: monosaccharides (such as glucose and fructose) disaccharides (2 monosaccharides joined together, such as surcose), and polysaccharides (many joined together in a long chain, such as starch). Polysaccharides are sometimes referred to as 'complex' carbohydrates, whereas mono and disaccharides are 'simple'. Sugars are sometimes referred to as simple carbohydrates because because they are either mono or disaccharides. For example, surcose is table sugar (what you put in your tea) but many foods processed foods contain fructose (such as coca-cola). So sugar falls under macronutrients (hence why sugar is indented under carbohydrates on a food label).




True. Alcohol contains 7 calories per gram, nearly double that of protein and carbohydrate (which contain 4 calories per gram), and nearly as much as fat, the most energy dense nutrient at 9 kCal/g.




Haha, what I was referring to is water doesn't have many nutrients in it (macro or micro). Actually diet and physical activity are just as important as each other because they are both halves of the energy balance equation (i.e., energy in and energy out). Plus, diet doesn't develop your cardiorespiratory fitness, does it?



Ahh, good to hear. It just that sometimes people go on crazy fad diets hoping to lose weight (which the normally do in the short term) but it isn't healthy. For example, you will probably lose weight from a 'low carbohydrate diet' because 1g of CHO is stored with just under 3g of water, meaning of you will lose weight, but it will be water weight which you will unavoidably put back on.

Depends on the diet, it can.. spicy foods will increase your heart rate.

Cut out tea and spicy foods… I don't know if I can do that..

From: xtrapsp
Cut out tea and spicy foods… I don't know if I can do that..

spicy foods are good, you want your heart rate up

I keep mine up throughout the day by doing random active things, my resting heart rate is the same as an Olympic runners

From: grats
spicy foods are good, you want your heart rate up

I keep mine up throughout the day by doing random active things, my resting heart rate is the same as an Olympic runners

What is your RHR out of interest?

From: THE MAYOR
What is your RHR out of interest?

52 last I was checked

Wow nice, that is pretty low. Miguel Indurain the cyclist had a RHR of 28! That would be near death for the average person.

I feel dead just thinking about that O_o

What is RHR?

From: xtrapsp
What is RHR?

Resting Heart Rate

From: Sjoekeloe
Resting Heart Rate

ohhh ty :)

I think mind is over 9000 tbh

From: xtrapsp
ohhh ty :)

I think mind is over 9000 tbh

LOL, that reference :)

over 9000 is beast, you can cut your finger and kill people with the blood gun

Simplest way to look at it guys is to lose weight is to burn more calories than you consume.

Its not hard to lose weight, and you don't need a forum post to know how. We all know what foods are bad for us and we all know that being active burns calories. Saying that, I don't want people to start calorie counting. Its a bad road to go down. You're burning calories all the time even when you sleep, so don't think if you eat 500 calories of cake lets say on a particular day, you need to do 500 calories of work to not put on weight.

Try staying away from simple carbs. We all I assume know what carbs are? If not they're a type of compound found in foods that are very easy for your body to break down and use for energy. This comes with a price however, they're also very easy for your body to store as fats, and is the first type of compound your body will try to convert into fat for storage during down time. Simple carbs are even more simpler to store as fat. Simple carbs are things like sweets/chocolate/white plastic bread etc. Complex are things like rice, potatoes, corn, wholemeal bread etc. Also other veg such as green beans, spinach and brocolli contain complex carbs (less starch, more fibre)

Carbs are essential for your body for energy. If you find you're tired a lot of the time, carbs would most likely have something to do with it. Complex carbs should be about half of your intake in calories.

From: BeRy
Simplest way to look at it guys is to lose weight is to burn more calories than you consume.

Its not hard to lose weight, and you don't need a forum post to know how. We all know what foods are bad for us and we all know that being active burns calories. Saying that, I don't want people to start calorie counting. Its a bad road to go down. You're burning calories all the time even when you sleep, so don't think if you eat 500 calories of cake lets say on a particular day, you need to do 500 calories of work to not put on weight.

Try staying away from simple carbs. We all I assume know what carbs are? If not they're a type of compound found in foods that are very easy for your body to break down and use for energy. This comes with a price however, they're also very easy for your body to store as fats, and is the first type of compound your body will try to convert into fat for storage during down time. Simple carbs are even more simpler to store as fat. Simple carbs are things like sweets/chocolate/white plastic bread etc. Complex are things like rice, potatoes, corn, wholemeal bread etc. Also other veg such as green beans, spinach and brocolli contain complex carbs (less starch, more fibre)

Carbs are essential for your body for energy. If you find you're tired a lot of the time, carbs would most likely have something to do with it. Complex carbs should be about half of your intake in calories.

Simplest way to put it is that this isn't about weight :P It's about fitness ^^

From: xtrapsp
Simplest way to put it is that this isn't about weight :P It's about fitness ^^

Fitness/weight loss fall under the same catogory dude. If you're getting fit, you will lose weight. If you're losing weight, you're getting fit. I'm trying to help you. It took a good ten minutes to write that last post. :/

From: BeRy
Fitness/weight loss fall under the same catogory dude. If you're getting fit, you will lose weight. If you're losing weight, you're getting fit. I'm trying to help you. It took a good ten minutes to write that last post. :/

Thats not exactly true… some people beef out and put on weight by getting fit…

From: xtrapsp
Thats not exactly true… some people beef out and put on weight by getting fit…

Right if that's what you think, then clearly you know better than me. Good luck.

From: BeRy
Right if that's what you think, then clearly you know better than me. Good luck.

It's not a matter of think, it's a fact. Some people's weight increases during exercise… No need to make a sarcastic comment just because I'm right… :norris:

From: BeRy
Fitness/weight loss fall under the same catogory dude. If you're getting fit, you will lose weight. If you're losing weight, you're getting fit. I'm trying to help you. It took a good ten minutes to write that last post. :/

False. If you starve, you're losing weight and not getting fit.

I gain a lot of weight when I workout and "get fit" I'll lose some fat around my chest and it'll get tighter, but I'll gain weight.. that being said, I like to have a thin layer of fat everywhere, it's good for survival in the mountains

Fitness and weight loss could probably fall under the "health" category, yet they are separate, but not mutually exclusive. You can get fitter without losing any weight (i.e., an elite marathon runner training), and as you guys said, you can gain weight whilst getting fitter (i.e. body builder, muscular hypertrophy).

PS: extrapsp I'm glad you didn't Chuck Norris me lol ;)

From: BeRy
Right if that's what you think, then clearly you know better than me. Good luck.

Well if your aim is to be underweight, you will lose weight. Not if you work out though.
In order to build muscle you need to eat more calories than you burn, and if you didn't you wouldn't make any progress.

For OP, I'd say stop wondering about it and just go to the gym, check some good program for beginners like SS or G6 and follow it.

Remember to eat and sleep, that's the most important part of lifting.

Lol, i'm done trying to help you guys.

From: psyno
Well if your aim is to be underweight, you will lose weight. Not if you work out though.
In order to build muscle you need to eat more calories than you burn, and if you didn't you wouldn't make any progress.

For OP, I'd say stop wondering about it and just go to the gym, check some good program for beginners like SS or G6 and follow it.

Remember to eat and sleep, that's the most important part of lifting.

Eating more calories than you burn would cause you to put on fat..

From: BeRy
Eating more calories than you burn would cause you to put on fat..

Not necessarily. Generally speaking:

Energy in > energy out = gain weight
Energy in < energy out = lose weight
Energy in = energy out = maintain weight

Energy in being food and fluid intake, and energy out being a composite of 3 things; physical activity (all bodily movement not just exercise), dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT - which is the energy your body uses to digest food and absorb the nutrients), and basal metabolic rate (BMR - which is the energy your body uses to maintain normal bodily functions, such as cell repair, breathing etc.)

However, psyno is correct, if you are building lean muscle then you do need to be in a calorific surplus. This is because if you eat just enough calories to maintain your weight, you will not grow (even with the training). However, as the calorific surplus you need to build muscle isn't actually that great, people often put on fat as well. This is why some people go through "bulking" and "cutting" phases when are training for hypertrophy (i.e., muscle growth).

PS: There is an edit button ;).

From: BeRy
Lol, i'm done trying to help you guys.

I'm sorry to break this down for you but this isn't rocket science, it's pretty much the basics of lifting. :/
Lift, eat, sleep.

From: BeRy
Eating more calories than you burn would cause you to put on fat..

In most cases, no.

From: grats
In most cases, no.

…If you do something else than just sit on your fat arse all day long. :)

From: grats
In most cases, no.

I would say in most cases, yes.

They say bikes are easier on the knees but you will get a better workout with a treadmill IMO. Regardless of which one you choose you need to actually use it. If you want to be healthy and feel good then cut the bull and take the initiative to work out at least every other day. Just do it for the ladies ;)

You guys are making this much too complicated, it's not like he's preparing for the fucking Olympics.

Eat good (you can eat a hamburger once and a while)
Find a segment of time to work out (I personally lift for an hour, take a shower, then go to bed.)
repeat

If you can't motivate yourself with the fact that working out helps your body, then that's fine. You can just be a toothpick for the rest of your life.

From: THE MAYOR
I would say in most cases, yes.

You would be wrong, though

depends what types of foods, not calorie count.. Turkey bacon has almost 2k calories a pack, I can eat a few packs a day (which I usually do) I don't gain weight, nor would most people.. and even your brain requires something like 400 calories a day.

I've been a toothpick for a long long time. I could eat like it was my last meal and still wouldn't gain a pound. It wasn't untill last year, mind you I'm 20+, that eating has finally started to pack on the pounds. I'm 170 now 6'2, was 120-130 a long time. Some people just have a high metabolism, or is it fast w/e, and no matter what we do we just cant gain weight. Don't want to discourage anyone but its really the body type we have been given (genetics). However gaining weight has kind of motivated me to start training. I mean I finally look, normal, and its given me the little push I needed to step it up a notch and go from normal to better.

From: grats

depends what types of foods, not calorie coun

That's a lie bro. Or do you have a source?

From: Neznam
I've been a toothpick for a long long time. I could eat like it was my last meal and still wouldn't gain a pound. It wasn't untill last year, mind you I'm 20+, that eating has finally started to pack on the pounds. I'm 170 now 6'2, was 120-130 a long time. Some people just have a high metabolism, or is it fast w/e, and no matter what we do we just cant gain weight. Don't want to discourage anyone but its really the body type we have been given (genetics). However gaining weight has kind of motivated me to start training. I mean I finally look, normal, and its given me the little push I needed to step it up a notch and go from normal to better.

Hope ya keep it up :)

Tried to gain weight too , I was eating 3 times a day, instead of 1 . (Only lasted like 1 month though, I've ran out on cash that went to beer.. Don't judge me :) )
Gained a healthy 5 kilo's, Did cardio + dumbells.
lazyness is in my genes I guess.

From: psyno
That's a lie bro. Or do you have a source?

Yea: reality


edit/

since you'll cry about my truthful post again, here:

http://calorielab.com/foods/rice/21

only eat rice for the rest of your life, eat a trillion calories worth per day, you won't gain weight. you'll probably die though.

From: grats
You would be wrong, though

depends what types of foods, not calorie count.. Turkey bacon has almost 2k calories a pack, I can eat a few packs a day (which I usually do) I don't gain weight, nor would most people.. and even your brain requires something like 400 calories a day.

Actually, the opposite is true. Refer to my above post about energy balance. All foods contain calories, albeit food with high fat will have more calories because fat is an energy dense nutrient (refer above post). The sum of all these calories is your energy intake. For example, say over the course of the day all the food you eat amounts to 400g carbohydrate, 150g protein, and 100g fat. Using the atwater factors mentioned above (i.e., CHO has 4 calories per gram, fat has 9), you would work out your total calories:

CHO: 400 x 4 = 1600 calories
Pro: 150 x 4 = 600 calories
Fat: 100 x 9 = 900 calories
______
Total 3100 calories

So your total energy intake is 3100 calories. If your total energy expenditure for this day (i.e., BMR, DIT, physical activity in above post) is less than 3100 calories, you would store that excess energy. Over a period of time this would lead to weight gain. It is a bit more complicated to calculate energy expenditure, but BMR accounts for approximately 70% of all calories eaten, DIT 10%, and PA 20%. This is getting a bit complex for the purpose of explanation, but just to complicate things, not all calories are equal and 1 calorie in doesn't mean 1 calorie out (i.e., your body may fail to absorb and utilise the entire calorie). Simply:

energy in > energy out = gain weight

It doesn't matter whether you have a high metabolism, or a slow metabolism, this still applies. You can think of your metabolism as your BMR + DIT; the energy that your body uses to maintain normal bodily functions. This is different for everyone and changes with age, weight, ethnicity, gender,the amount of physical activity you do, and even what you eat**. Basically, you expend a certain amount of calories over the course of the day to meet your bodies energy needs, any excess calories you haven't used will be stored.

** Interesting point I though I might add about eating patterns and metabolism. When you don't eat, your metabolism slows down as a physiological response (i.e., your body thinks there is a famine and it is being starved, so by doing this it is preserving energy). This is why many diets don't work.

Cool, didn't read though.. you'll have to come study me and the rest of my family tree.. along with millions of others on this planet who eat more than they burn, and don't gain weight.

So by saying that I'm assuming the you know what your precise energy expenditure is, and how many calories you consume by weighing all your food. I'm assuming you stayed overnight at the lab to get your BMR tested through indirect calorimetry and walk around all day with a portable gas analysis machine to calculate your physical activity.

I don't think that you quite grasp the idea of 'burning energy'. You can sit around all the time not doing anything and still use a lot of calories (BMR etc.). So even though it seems like you are eating more than you are using, it is probably not the case.

To prove it to a friend, I consumed 10,000+ calories a day, for 3 months, gained no weight at all… he was in the same boat as you're in right now.

I don't sit on computers all day and burn that… my normal day is probably around 5k calories, I maybe burn that some days, definitely not all

I don't gain weight through eating, at all, because I eat constantly and not single big meals in the afternoon.. the only way I can gain weight is if I lift.. which I had to do when I was sick for a few months and lost 20 pounds of muscle about 3-4 years ago.

Well grats you're just being an arrogant prick so I'm done trying to help you

I don't need help.

nor have you tried to help me.. anywhere in this thread, lol..

This escalated over a fairly long period of time.

If your goal is to get fit, then do a moderate bit of cardio excersize everyday. It will not only improve your fitness, but also your mental health and self confidence. By the way, since I have started using Simba, I have lost 50 pounds. Coincidence? I think not…