SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

New Chaotic?


MasterXehanort

2012-12-20 00:28:05

Hello everyone. With the introduction of EoC, combat styles were significantly changed. Most monsters are not as vulnerable to all attack styles as before. The different attack speeds make a big difference as well. Going through the level up charts, currently, the best two-handed slash weapon are the godswords; the best two-handed stab weapon is the zamorakian spear. Yet the chaotic longsword [slash] and chaotic rapier [stab] are one handed weapons without a superior two-handed alternative; granted there are off-hand choices, in my experience from EoC, two-handed weapons deal more DPS with abilities. Even if someone disagrees, the incorporation of a two-handed chaotic weapons with slash and stab as the attack focus; or even a one-handed and off-hand chaotic crush weapon. Hell, why not throw in a two-handed CCB?

The different damage outputs and abilities could change PvP and PvM.

Thoughts? Should there be an expansion of chaotic weapon attack styles? Why/Why not?

Sirenia

2012-12-20 01:14:28

2Handers = more swing dmg
Abilities is stronger the more swing dmg you got!
2Handers will be stronker unless they scale down abilities/add longer cd to them for 2Handers

MasterXehanort

2012-12-20 01:22:14

From: Sirenia
2Handers = more swing dmg
Abilities is stronger the more swing dmg you got!
2Handers will be stronker unless they scale down abilities/add longer cd to them for 2Handers


I'm sure a chaotic 2h or spear would have the same damage output as the maul. Just a different style of attacking for certain monster killing.

Nerfing cooldown time for 2h's would piss a lot of people off. Since i use "slice" ability at the same time i attack with the 2h to have 2 hits in one swing. The game registers the hit first, and then as you are swinging, the second hit comes with the ability. In theory, its like using a 2h and an off-hand 2h. Why even have one handed off-hands now? :P

Sirenia

2012-12-20 01:37:28

From: MMOE
I'm sure a chaotic 2h or spear would have the same damage output as the maul. Just a different style of attacking for certain monster killing.

Nerfing cooldown time for 2h's would piss a lot of people off. Since i use "slice" ability at the same time i attack with the 2h to have 2 hits in one swing. The game registers the hit first, and then as you are swinging, the second hit comes with the ability. In theory, its like using a 2h and an off-hand 2h. Why even have one handed off-hands now? :P

Its up to Jagex to balance things our, if they made 2H's imba then its because its a bad design they are having or they havent got enough time to fiddle with the numbers. Imo they are dwelling at too deep water, the game arent ready for this kind of combat as theres like an 0.5sec duration before any action in the game actually "hapends".

Tlachtli

2012-12-20 01:54:51

I doubt they'll add any new Chaotics, unless it comes as a SoF prize (don't forget to buy extra spins!). Since I'm no longer a member, I'm more concerned with the balance of the F2P rewards and Gravite equipment.

I just want the Gravite 2H to go back to crush. As it stands, F2P has no top-tier crush weapon. On a related note, I am glad that Gravite is finally summarily better in all 3 combat styles now; it bugged me with the previous system that the Gravite bow was underpowered compared to the sighted longbow (costing 1/4 as many tokens).

That said, I feel like the other non-Gravite equipment got hit with the Nerf-bat pretty hard. The Arcane blast necklace–a 15.5k token item requiring 50 magic to wear–lost its damage boost and instead got a crit boost that is 0.3% higher than the Amulet of magic (that's not an exaggeration, that's actually the difference). Additionally the Tome of frost–a 43k token item, higher than Gravite equipment–has lower stats than the Bat book and cannot be paired with any of the elemental staffs like it used to.

LemonHaze

2012-12-20 02:45:29

chaotic 2h ftw!

Chris!

2012-12-20 02:47:52

I'd be interested in a Chaotic 2h, but I doubt one will be introduced.

MasterXehanort

2012-12-20 10:01:47

From: Chris!
I'd be interested in a Chaotic 2h, but I doubt one will be introduced.


Have either Number1Boss, RuneShark, FairytalesRS, or Born submit the idea on youtube like the charm collector. If it gets enough popularity, i dont see why it wouldnt be implemented at some point.

Benny

2012-12-20 10:32:40

From: MMOE
Have either Number1Boss, RuneShark, FairytalesRS, or Born submit the idea on youtube like the charm collector. If it gets enough popularity, i dont see why it wouldnt be implemented at some point.


This would be fun! I would enjoy a 2h

MasterXehanort

2012-12-24 13:19:26

Added a poll. Let's see how everyone feels about this.

Rincewind

2012-12-24 13:54:21

Maybe a chaotic spear or 2h for the stab or slash would be good. But I don't want an entire line of weapons coming out of this.

Fascinate

2012-12-24 14:27:16

From: Rincewind
Maybe a chaotic spear or 2h for the stab or slash would be good. But I don't want an entire line of weapons coming out of this.


I don't see why they didn't add spears or a 2h considering they were the ones everyone used IN the dungeon! Come on Jagex!

MasterXehanort

2012-12-24 23:10:56

From: Fascinate
I don't see why they didn't add spears or a 2h considering they were the ones everyone used IN the dungeon! Come on Jagex!


Ha never thought of it like that before. Although, the chaotic equipment was put in at the same time dg came out. They didn't know 2h weapons would be mass used. Then again, it's been long enough for them to notice.

Fascinate

2012-12-25 00:26:41

From: MMOE
Ha never thought of it like that before. Although, the chaotic equipment was put in at the same time dg came out. They didn't know 2h weapons would be mass used. Then again, it's been long enough for them to notice.


They added offhands with a snap of their fingers! I know the 2h and spear would probably be OP if they were same stats as in as dungeon but still! They should definately be added! And a charm collector was mentioned in a behind the scenes of some post by Jagex! It would be awesome but I already have been botting waterfiends for charms!:(

MasterXehanort

2012-12-25 00:45:32

From: Fascinate
They added offhands with a snap of their fingers! I know the 2h and spear would probably be OP if they were same stats as in as dungeon but still! They should definately be added! And a charm collector was mentioned in a behind the scenes of some post by Jagex! It would be awesome but I already have been botting waterfiends for charms!:(


Charm collector is being implemented; however, with their sweet time. SRL thread about it already.

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93117

I wonder if this can get enough publicity to get on yt and then eventually to jagex.

Hazzah

2012-12-27 18:32:37

Confirmed in HLF that it's not going to happen.

John

2012-12-27 19:35:07

From: Hazzah
Confirmed in HLF that it's not going to happen.


Is that the charm collector or the new chaotic?

MasterXehanort

2013-01-09 02:13:54

Chaotic Add-On for Dragon Claws

We will be adding a new piece of chaotic gear in the form of chaotic claws. These claws will be slightly different to existing chaotic equipment in that you’ll need to mount the claws onto an existing dragon claw weapon – both the off-hand and main-hand pieces. To compensate for this additional cost, the Dungeoneering token cost of the chaotic add-on will be significantly lower than equivalent chaotic gear. At a faster attack speed, and with increased crit chance, the chaotic claws will be formidable tools to use.

- Jagex Update going live January 14

chongc

2013-01-10 10:04:46

dem claws flying off the shelves all of a sudden.