Hunaja
2012-11-23 13:55:34
Chris Reborn
2012-11-23 13:57:17
pooh bear laptop haha. but hmm thats a hard question to answer… id say yes and no… depends on the situation if you can afford to buy the stuff buy it if you cant use a vps etc…
TehNeonFishy
2012-11-23 14:36:17
Wow, when did things get so extreme? =/
How is that even legal, threatening to bring you to court or charging 600 euros. Sounds scarily similar to extortion.
Austin
2012-11-23 15:47:39
Good thing I don't live in Finland :whistling:
Benny
2012-11-23 15:52:16
Holy moly. I think I'd lose my laptop too
Silentcore
2012-11-23 15:56:47
From: -Benny
Holy moly. I think I'd lose my laptop too
Is it winnie the pooh too?
Rezozo
2012-11-23 16:03:13
From: Silentcore
Is it winnie the pooh too?
Mines is Rainbow Dash.
Back to the article. Damn.
Back to the question. Parents should not. What they should do, is get them out of Finland, and live in Madagascar.
~Rez
slushpuppy
2012-11-23 19:30:21
so now the police are working for corporations
Flight
2012-11-23 19:55:14
Wait a minute, this doesn't add up to me. Let me sum it up from how I understand it.
First, the girl couldn't afford to buy the music from the store, tries downloading it a song online, those downloads don't work, so they go to the music store later on and buy the music. Even after having legally purchased the music CIAPC sends them a letter asking for money. No warnings, no 3-strikes and you're out, just "Hey we caught you, give us money". The father refuses to pay, the police come and take little girl's laptop.
Now, what's more is the artist of the music the girl was downloading, Chisu, said that she didn't want to sue anyone, and on top of that posted on her Facebook a free download link for all her music. How awesome is that? As you can imagine made CIAPC look like an a$$hole.
So what this means to me is what's important to artists is staying loyal to their fans, and I agree with that. But according to CIAPC it's only about the money. So this makes me wonder… if that father would have paid the 600 Euros that CIAPC demanded, how much of that would have EVER made it to Chisu's bank account? None?
Sounds to me like CIAPC takes advantage of artists. From my understanding, music fans, they lose. Artists and bands, they lose. CIAPC, they win, for doing nothing.
Rezozo
2012-11-23 20:04:48
From: Flight
Wait a minute, this doesn't add up to me. Let me sum it up from how I understand it.
First, the girl couldn't afford to buy the music from the store, tries downloading it a song online, those downloads don't work, so they go to the music store later on and buy the music. Even after having legally purchased the music CIAPC sends them a letter asking for money. No warnings, no 3-strikes and you're out, just "Hey we caught you, give us money". The father refuses to pay, the police come and take little girl's laptop.
Now, what's more is the artist of the music the girl was downloading, Chisu, said that she didn't want to sue anyone, and on top of that posted on her Facebook a free download link for all her music. How awesome is that? As you can imagine made CIAPC look like an a$$hole.
So what this means to me is what's important to artists is staying loyal to their fans, and I agree with that. But according to CIAPC it's only about the money. So this makes me wonder… if that father would have paid the 600 Euros that CIAPC demanded, how much of that would have EVER made it to Chisu's bank account? None?
Sounds to me like CIAPC takes advantage of artists. From my understanding, music fans, they lose. Artists and bands, they lose. CIAPC, they win, for doing nothing.
Very true, and very nicely put. Do you think that it should even be illegal (or grey zoned) to download from a torrent site?
~Rez
Swifte
2012-11-23 21:01:45
Poor little girl. May she be reunited with Pooh :)
grats
2012-11-23 21:40:18
she should go to prison for life imo
Gu3st...
2012-11-26 22:30:50
Guys, the obvious criminal here is the pooh.
Silentcore
2012-11-26 22:33:03
From: Zyt3x
Guys, the obvious criminal here is the pooh.
I always knew there was something too sweet in his honey.
EtherFreak
2012-11-27 00:19:28
This is what happens when you try to make an example of those that dont settle out of court, and sign a disclosure agreement. I just wonder how many of these (more then the 28) were not mentioned, and the people can not bring up due to their disclosure agreements. I will say, steer clear of torrents, as they are not secure, and never were meant to be.
Vinyl Scratch
2012-11-27 00:26:58
From: Rezozo
Mines is Rainbow Dash.
She can do anything in ten seconds flat. You'll be fine.
Mine's Fluttershy. She's too sweet to get in trouble.
Prometheus
2012-11-27 00:48:30
Can someone please explain to me what torrents are? I heard that they are illegal, but how?
Vinyl Scratch
2012-11-27 08:05:28
Because it's pirated software. and most pirated software is protected by copyright, so using it without purchasing it from a authorized retailer is illegal.
mike-gee420
2012-11-27 10:01:01
Wtf, cops raided a 9 year old girl? What a waste of their time.
Prometheus
2012-11-27 19:17:09
From: Vinyl Scratch
Because it's pirated software. and most pirated software is protected by copyright, so using it without purchasing it from a authorized retailer is illegal.
Oh, then that explains why she got raided.
Reveille
2012-11-27 19:36:55
Seriously? Cops now work for companies to raid nine year olds computers???
Don't cops have anything better to do these days than harassing little girls and measuring distances from fire hydrants with a measuring tape? They could be out doing their job protecting the community and hunting down "real" bad guys, or is that be asking too much?
Prometheus
2012-11-27 21:21:42
From: goreguy11
Seriously? Cops now work for companies to raid nine year olds computers???
Don't cops have anything better to do these days than harassing little girls and measuring distances from fire hydrants with a measuring tape? They could be out doing their job protecting the community and hunting down "real" bad guys, or is that be asking too much?
They should be doing that, but it's in Finland, and the rules there are much different from America.
Sirenia
2012-11-28 03:20:41
Raiding alittle girl is just wrong, she probably had no idea that it was illegal. They would be better off "visiting" a guy that makes money off this activity instead.