SRL Archive - Senior Discussions and Debates

'Normalize' Cups?


YoHoJo

2012-11-06 03:53:58

I love our cups, we've had them forever, and they mean a lot to many of us :).

But our cups have no standard theme or size and can look rather random/messy at times.

Check out, for example, the ranks/awards/cups at

Sythe:
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1445188

Rid:
http://www.robotzindisguise.com/forum/showthread.php?22-The-Ranking-System

Mopar (Scroll down to awards):
http://www.moparisthebest.com/smf/index.php?topic=163712.0

RuneMart:
http://www.runemart.com/vb/awards.php
http://www.runemart.com/vb/showthread.php/award-requirements-58896.html

They all have a common theme, look, and size to them.


How about we hold a competition for some of the talented graphics people here to create (or alter/edit/manipulate) their own new set of Cups for SRL?
Made in a style that is simple yet beautiful that way if ever new cups are needed to be created anyone good with graphics can do so.

WT-Fakawi

2012-11-06 13:16:21

Agreed. We have had aruments like this in the past, but those where about resizing the cyps. Restyling them requires an indeed skillfull designer. Great idea!

BraK

2012-11-06 13:23:17

I can Agree but what design type should we take. I'm not particularly Okay with copying other forums designs or style as we have always been unique and I would like to remain that way.

Hobbit

2012-11-06 14:33:00

I like the animated and more "3d" type cups like the Dev, admin, MSI and helper bear (not animated). I think we should use those as a "Style base"

Flight

2012-11-06 19:44:24

Take a look at RuneCMS's ranks. They used bronze-rune pickaxes & bronze-rune bars for regular forum members. These reflected the user's post count. As you can see, higher-quality items (Santa hats, Pumpkins, Christmas Crackers/PartyHats) were reserved for those with special ranks.

We could do something similar to that, but minus the 3-item rank as that seems to have migrated to Sythe after RuneCMS fell. I do like that system though, related to Runescape so all the ranks are relevant.

And DON'T ask for more example RuneCMS links, it was hard enough just to find one that worked!

Dgby714

2012-11-06 20:26:27

From: Flight
Take a look at RuneCMS's ranks. They used bronze-rune pickaxes & bronze-rune bars for regular forum members. These reflected the user's post count. As you can see, higher-quality items (Santa hats, Pumpkins, Christmas Crackers/PartyHats) were reserved for those with special ranks.

We could do something similar to that, but minus the 3-item rank as that seems to have migrated to Sythe after RuneCMS fell. I do like that system though, related to Runescape so all the ranks are relevant.

And DON'T ask for more example RuneCMS links, it was hard enough just to find one that worked!


A lot of our ranks have nothing to do with Runescape.

I agree they need to be redone.

NCDS

2012-11-06 21:51:50

They don't bother me at all honestly, but I wouldn't be against some new designs. I'm not too sure how I like the idea of using RS related images for cups, though.

Hobbit

2012-11-06 22:24:30

I always though that Sythe's cups were tacky.

Coh3n

2012-11-06 22:44:06

I like our cups to be honest. It would be nice if they were all the same size, though, and I don't like them being related to RS. I don't want to see completely new cups, but I wouldn't mind seeing some tweaks just to see what people come up with.

BraK

2012-11-06 22:48:16

We could shrink the cups a bit and size them all to be at a standard size.

Also I like some of the Runemart Awards :)

Sythe and Rid have ugly RS cups. Let's stay away from RS images as much as possible.

One common theme I saw is that most all of those Site's have a Image Guru cup. We might like to think about adding one. :)

Coh3n

2012-11-06 22:50:52

From: BraK
We could shrink the cups a bit and size them all to be at a standard size.
I'd like to see that.

From: BraK

One common theme I saw is that most all of those Site's have a Image Guru cup. We might like to think about adding one. :)
Probably not a bad idea.

BraK

2012-11-06 22:53:01

Lol we could have an Image contest for the cup and have a vote later on it with the Winner getting the first cup :p

Coh3n

2012-11-06 22:54:33

Doesn't have to be an all out competition, but I guess it could be if you want. A thread will probably be enough.

Hobbit

2012-11-06 23:11:11

Add cup standardization to the to-do list. We can do it after the forum upgrade.

Daniel

2012-11-06 23:27:04

From: Hobbit
I like the animated and more "3d" type cups like the Dev, admin, MSI and helper bear (not animated). I think we should use those as a "Style base"

Oh god no, not more animated cups. 3D, yes. Not animated, though.

From: Hobbit
We can do it after the forum upgrade.

Which is… when exactly? ;p

Hobbit

2012-11-06 23:33:48

From: Daniel
Which is… when exactly? ;p


When Wizzup is done doing w/e he has to do on nala, I can start on getting the upgrade done :) So help me bug wizzup :p

Flight

2012-11-07 00:11:54

So… if I make an rank set that we use do I get a my own custom cup? :stirthepot:

Dgby714

2012-11-07 00:39:58

From: Flight
So… if I make an rank set that we use do I get a my own custom cup? :stirthepot:


They were thinking about it yes. Tho it wouldn't be only for you, it'd be for anyone who proves to be a "Graphics" Guru.

Hobbit

2012-11-07 02:15:30

Here are a couple of quick cup replacement ideas from quick google search in the "pseudo 3d" category.
They obviously aren't resized at all.
Not a huge fan of the masters or scripters one, but best found on a quick search.

Valued Vote:
Old Timer:
Masters:
Scripter:

Flight

2012-11-07 04:04:27

Here's a possible style.

Edit:
Cleaned them up a little, and made an alternative for the SRL Scripter rank.



YoHoJo

2012-11-07 04:13:23

I like the idea of having the name of each cup next to each cup, it would be really really helpful.

Even just keeping same cups and at least making them the same size would help them look a lot better, and a few could/should be swapped out though.


Accidentally double posted/rewrote my post :p

Even just making all of the cups the same size and keeping all else the same would help a lot.

I really like the idea of having the name of the cup written next to each one, it would make their meaning a lot easier to understand to everyone.

Some should be changed to better reflect what they mean though, ex: whats the significance of the cat/Arzel(?) for the scripter cup?

Coh3n

2012-11-07 09:07:26

From: YoHoJo
I like the idea of having the name of each cup next to each cup, it would be really really helpful.
I really, really dislike that. You can just hover the cup to get the name. When you get text in there it looks horrible and cluttered.

From: YoHoJo

Some should be changed to better reflect what they mean though, ex: whats the significance of the cat/Arzel(?) for the scripter cup?
At this point, does it matter? The cat has been the scripter's cup for years and should be kept in my opinion.

I don't really want to see any of the cups replaced or completely changed.

Hobbit

2012-11-07 12:50:30

From: Coh3n
I really, really dislike that. You can just hover the cup to get the name. When you get text in there it looks horrible and cluttered.

At this point, does it matter? The cat has been the scripter's cup for years and should be kept in my opinion.

I don't really want to see any of the cups replaced or completely changed.


I quite dislike it too, sorry Flight.

Well lets work with making them all the same size (Admin globe size?) and see how that goes first.

NCDS

2012-11-07 13:01:13

From: Hobbit
I quite dislike it too, sorry Flight.

Well lets work with making them all the same size (Admin globe size?) and see how that goes first.


Not sure how tut writer and dev gears would look at that size, but it's worth a shot to see anyways.

Edit: http://puu.sh/1nwTk

Pretty small for dev gears.

I would say make them 50x50px, but any that are already smaller (ie admin globe), leave them the size they are. If resizing is the approach that's decided on, that is.

Bam Bam

2012-11-07 15:13:37

Let's stay away from the RS items please. They don't accurately capture what I feel we represent as a community, and they look stupid.

On the other hand, I'm all for restyling the cups but won't introducing new cups be difficult unless they manage to capture the old cup a bit?

Kyle Undefined

2012-11-07 17:20:04

I personally like the current cups, they've been this way since I joined and I love em.

What is the forum upgrade?!? :D Does that include the landing page I built?

Flight

2012-11-07 21:11:14

From: Hobbit
I quite dislike it too, sorry Flight.

Well lets work with making them all the same size (Admin globe size?) and see how that goes first.


Quite fine, I'm more than happy to have some honest feedback. :)

euphemism

2012-11-08 02:01:12

From: Frasier Crane

It's a style of decorating. It's called eclectic. The theory behind it is, if you have great pieces of furniture, it doesn't matter if they match. They'll go together.


The way I see it, our cups have their own 'eclectic' style, and stand by themselves as unique, but uniform in their differences. I happen to like them just the way they are, but if the community doesn't, then they most certainly should be changed to more accurately reflect the tastes of the group at large.

Daniel

2012-11-08 06:57:12

From: euphemism
The way I see it, our cups have their own 'eclectic' style, and stand by themselves as unique, but uniform in their differences. I happen to like them just the way they are, but if the community doesn't, then they most certainly should be changed to more accurately reflect the tastes of the group at large.


I'm neutral on the matter. :p Although, I just don't want to see any animated cups, as they are too flashy and too distracting.

cause

2012-11-08 17:23:40

I'm with euph, I like them the way they are (or maybe size change, but not cup change).

Brain

2012-11-09 01:26:16

I do like them as they are. Each one is different and unique. I can see the issue with re-sizing, maybe just re-organize them on so it's from large to small? Flamboyant animations are tacky, most of the ones here are fairly low key though.

Flight

2012-11-09 04:12:40

If I might throw out a suggestion, could we perhaps change the Promising Newcomer cup? IMO it really doesn't fit in with the rest.

BraK

2012-11-09 04:22:33

That's a pretty old cup, but I know what you mean. We have a few cups that don't really mesh with the rest but most of those aren't cups that you see that often.

Which reminds me someone is due to lose theirs as they already have the old timer cup which is suppose to replace it at 2 years. :rolleyes:

Hobbit

2012-11-09 12:10:25

From: Brain
I do like them as they are. Each one is different and unique. I can see the issue with re-sizing, maybe just re-organize them on so it's from large to small? Flamboyant animations are tacky, most of the ones here are fairly low key though.


That would involve deleting all the ranks and recreating them in the order of their cup size. Sooooo thats not gonna happen :p (Unless I can find a tweak for vB4 that allows manual cup display priority after we upgrade)

Daniel

2012-11-09 17:32:00

From: Hobbit
after we upgrade)


You keep saying that,
You've been saying that for the past year,
Oh dear oh dear oh dear,
You better hurry up,
Or I'll flatten you all with a bat!

euphemism

2012-11-09 17:47:36

From: brak

which reminds me someone is due to lose theirs as they already have the old timer cup which is suppose to replace it at 2 years. :rolleyes:


You leave my cup alone!

Hobbit

2012-11-10 01:20:06

From: Daniel
You keep saying that,
You've been saying that for the past year,
Oh dear oh dear oh dear,
You better hurry up,
Or I'll flatten you all with a bat!


Its waiting on Wizzup right now.

Daniel

2012-11-10 03:09:54

From: Hobbit
Its waiting on Wizzup right now.


You keep saying that,
You've been saying that for the past year,
Oh dear oh dear oh dear,
You better hurry up,
Or I'll flatten you all with a bat!

Flight

2012-11-10 07:35:27

Is it just me or is there an echo in here?

Bam Bam

2012-11-10 14:00:48

From: Flight
Is it just me or is there an echo in here?


Is it just me or is there an echo in here?

Brain

2012-11-10 21:08:09

echo….echo……..echo
From: Hobbit
That would involve deleting all the ranks and recreating them in the order of their cup size. Sooooo thats not gonna happen :p (Unless I can find a tweak for vB4 that allows manual cup display priority after we upgrade)

didn't realize VB was like that. Figured you could just, rearrange :spongebob: Ah well.

Hobbit

2012-11-10 22:48:02

From: Brain
echo….echo……..echo

didn't realize VB was like that. Figured you could just, rearrange :spongebob: Ah well.


You can do the with forum categories, maybe in the newer versions you can set a display priority. Seems silly not to have it.

Edit: Did some research, not in vB4 however it is in vBulletin's JIRA Tracker under new feature requests.

Hobbit

2013-01-04 20:12:05


Cup resizing looks strange… Those are all 50x50

Dgby714

2013-01-04 20:35:28

From: Hobbit

Cup resizing looks strange… Those are all 50x50


They need this as well as standardizing the icons to one theme.

Also some of the "specific" cups should be badges instead.

BraK

2013-01-04 23:57:14

Leave the width sized to poportion. Just resize the height to all be 50 pixels.

Gu3st...

2013-01-05 10:01:33

From: BraK
Leave the width sized to poportion. Just resize the height to all be 50 pixels.
Helper bear would look fat

masterBB

2013-01-05 10:09:11

same width:

same height:

BraK

2013-01-05 12:13:40

From: Zyt3x
Helper bear would look fat



How so If you do 50 pixel in height then do it to poportion then it would look the same just smaller.

As masterBB demonstrated.

cause

2013-01-05 16:10:22

I like same height. Btw when is that forum upgrade??

Gu3st...

2013-01-05 16:33:58

Yeah, same height looks good enough

Hobbit

2013-01-05 16:57:39

I think maybe I should add a small transparent border around the admin cup…
I also removed one of the frames from the admin gif so now it doesnt have that brief pause in the rotation.


Coh3n

2013-01-06 14:26:17

I don't like them resized. :( I think they look better the way they are.