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Presidential Debate 10/16/2012

[9:25:18 PM] Question: Which tax credits would you eliminate to pay for your tax cut?

[9:25:37 PM] Romney - limit deductions for people at the top. Top 5% pay 60% of income tax

[9:25:53 PM] Romney - middle income tax break. “$25,000” deductions

[9:27:31 PM] Romney -incentives to start job growth

[9:27:39 PM] Obama - middle class relief

[9:28:04 PM] Obama - cut taxes by $3,600 dollars per family

[9:28:20 PM] Obama - continue to cut taxes for middle class and small businesses

[9:29:06 PM] Obama - Americans making $250,000 or below (98%) will not see a tax increase. Above $250,000 income will see Clinton's tax rates

[9:30:39 PM] Romney - top 5% pay 60% of income tax

[9:31:15 PM] Romney - cut taxes for middle class. 54% of Americans workers companies taxed as individuals

[9:33:06 PM] Obama - Romney wants to spend 7 trillion dollars

[9:34:50 PM] Romney’s plan either blows up the deficit or is paid for the American people

[9:36:17 PM] Romney - Obama said he would half the national debt, but doubled it

[9:38:46 PM] Question: in what new ways would you rectify income equality for women?

[9:39:45 PM] Obama - America will not tolerate discrimination

[9:40:24 PM] Romney - all applicants of his cabinet were men. He looked for qualified women

[9:40:55 PM] Romney - had more women in senior leadership than any other in America

[9:41:46 PM] Romney - women have lost 580,000 jobs in the past four years. 3.5 million more women are in poverty than four years ago

[9:42:00 PM] Romney - Flexible work schedules for women

[9:43:14 PM] Obama – Available healthcare is a major difference.

[9:43:34 PM] Obama – Insurance companies need to provide contraceptive coverage to all insured women

[9:45:00 PM] Obama - make sure women have same opportunity as men in workplace

[9:46:35 PM] Romney - every woman in America should have access to contraceptives

[9:46:53 PM] Romney - get the energy we need in North America without going to “Arabs”

[9:47:15 PM] Romney - crack down on china and expand trade with Latin America (free trade agreements)

[9:48:08 PM] Romney - help small businesses grow by lowering taxes on them. Encouraging growth.

[9:48:26 PM] Romney - Obama care keeps small businesses from hiring more people

[9:49:09 PM] Obama - 31 straight months of job growth

[9:49:27 PM] Obama - tax cuts like Romney suggests are took us from surplus to deficit

[9:49:54 PM] Obama - Romney is the last person that is going to “get tough” on China

[9:50:28 PM] Obama - make sure China is not flooding America with "cheap tires"

[9:52:06 PM] Question: what have you done to earn my vote in 2012?

[9:52:43 PM] Obama - tax cuts, healthcare reform, went after terrorists, passed toughest Wall Street reforms, saved auto industry

[9:53:10 PM] Obama - making sure we are control the energy of today and the future

[9:53:24 PM] Obama - kept commitments so far and will keep the rest.

[9:54:52 PM] Romney - Americans know better. Obama will repeat the last 4 years

[9:55:11 PM] Romney - Obama said unemployment would be at 5.4%

[9:55:38 PM] Romney - Obama said he would file immigration legislation his first year, but he didn't.

[9:56:12 PM] Romney - middle class is being crushed

[9:56:38 PM] Romney - 32 million were on food stamps four years ago. 47 million are now on them

[9:58:30 PM] Romney - this election is about who can give future generations the optimism they deserve

[9:59:31 PM] Romney - shouldn’t have to hire a lawyer to enter this country

[10:00:02 PM] Question: what do you plan on doing for immigrants working in this country?

[10:01:30 PM] Romney - give green cards to those with advanced degrees

[10:02:35 PM] Obama - increased border patrol, go after criminals that are here illegally

[10:02:42 PM] Obama - don’t go after the students

[10:05:18 PM] Romney- why didn’t Obama file the legislation during his first year? (For illegal immigrants)

[10:06:02 PM] Romney - if immigrants find that they can’t get a job here they will go other places

[10:06:25 PM] Romney - Obama said "if people commit crimes, we need to get them out of this country"

[10:07:18 PM] Moderator intervenes

[10:09:49 PM] Question: who denied enhanced security in Benghazi for diplomats?

[10:10:12 PM] Obama - investigate what happened, regardless of the facts. Find out and hunt down who did it

[10:10:24 PM] Obama - "when folks mess with Americans, we will go after them"

[10:11:18 PM] Obama - means what he says when it comes to national security. Transition out of Afghanistan, attacks on terrorism

[10:12:04 PM] Romney - Obama said he takes responsibility for the failure to provide security

[10:12:38 PM] Romney - the attack was terrorism. Why didn't we know 5 days after the attack?

[10:13:39 PM] Romney – Current examples: Syria, Egypt, Libya

[10:13:49 PM] Romney - 30,000 Syrians killed

[10:14:42 PM] Obama - responsible for everything his staff does

[10:15:16 PM] Obama - grieved with the families while greeting the caskets

[10:15:49 PM] Obama - he does not mislead Americans as president or commander in chief

[10:17:49 PM] Obama - believes in 2nd amendment

[10:19:03 PM] Obama - enforce the laws that we have, keep guns out of mentally ill

[10:19:21 PM] Question: what has your administration done to control assault weapons?

[10:19:53 PM] Obama - make sure the young people in this nation have opportunity

[10:20:13 PM] Obama - get automatic weapons out of the hands of criminals

[10:20:25 PM] Obama - catch violent impulses before they occur

[10:20:59 PM] Romney – Agrees with Obama. Make efforts to enforce laws we have and change the culture of violence

[10:21:35 PM] Romney - opportunities come to kids through their parents (2 parents)

[10:22:12 PM] Romney - fast and furious program: thousands of ak-47’s were used against own citizens

[10:23:52 PM] Romney - need bipartisan agreements

[10:24:54 PM] Obama - every person in America, regardless of how they look, should have a chance to succeed

[10:25:04 PM] Obama – America displays improvements in math and science fields

[10:27:37 PM] Romney- make America most attractive place in the world for entrepreneurs


Who do you think performed better in this debate? Why? In your opinion, what were their strongest/weakest arguments? Did this debate change your opinions about either candidate? If you have seen the debate, what did you think of the moderator's real time correction of Romney's remarks about Libya?

Legit? Add the whole debate bro! lol impossible

+Rep, I like! Great job!

This is super condensed! When did the moderator correct Romney on his 47% comments, I must have missed that some how? I am pulling an all nighter for an accounting exam tomorrow so that is my excuse for asking you to locate that for me instead of looking it up myself haha! Once I see the moderator's correction I will give my opinions on the debate.

I was generally disappointed that both candidates could not seem to directly answer basically any of the questions that were asked by the people.

Did anyone else notice that Obama pauses waaaaay to often!?!?

From: iBlank
This is super condensed! When did the moderator correct Romney on his 47% comments, I must have missed that some how? I am pulling an all nighter for an accounting exam tomorrow so that is my excuse for asking you to locate that for me instead of looking it up myself haha! Once I see the moderator's correction I will give my opinions on the debate.

See the edited question :)

From: tehq
See the edited question :)

Oh ok, I definitely saw that correction. I think she stepped out of line personally. She could have just influenced a bunch of people who will not go do the fact checking themselves.

If you go look at the transcript of what Obama said he never directly refers to the attack in Libya as an act of terror. It took Obama's administration over 3 days to stop saying the attack was a response to the that video about the Islamic faith and refer to it as terrorism.

I think Obama worded his response the day after the attack ingeniously. His sentence of "acts of terror will never shake resolve.." can be used to say he did refer to it as an attack of terror or he could spin it as if he didn't refer specifically to the Libya attack.

Also, calling something an "act of terror" is much different, in my opinion, than saying "an act of terrorism" or "an act carried about by terrorist".

believing what these candidates say is like believing that jagex is doing a good job at eradicating bots.

CNN put out a corrected statement saying crowles(sp?) correction of romney was wrong.

From: footballjds
CNN put out a corrected statement saying crowles(sp?) correction of romney was wrong.

CNN said that it was wrong of Crowley to jump in like that?

From: iBlank
CNN said that it was wrong of Crowley to jump in like that?

no, they said that Crowley's "correction" of Romney was incorrect and what Romney said was true.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/candy-crowley-romney-right-that-obama-didnt-call-libya-terror-but-thought-he-picked-the-wrong-word/

http://videos.mediaite.com/embed/player/container/1366/681/?content_type=content_item&layout=&playlist_cid=&content=P43NN21XYTS0X00L&media_type=video&widget_type_cid=svp&read_more=1&referrer=

If she is going to inject herself into the debate like that at least correct all of obama's lies instead of taking the side of him when he was wrong yet again.

I am not in Love with either candidate to be honest…. but I can say that in 2008 I not only voted for Obama, I actually also worked for their local campaign…. his message of Hope and Change was very appealling to me and I crossed party lines to work for him in 2008.

That being said…. a lot of what the President said in 2008 has failed to come to pass…. and the overwhelming trend is not good for the average person. Fuel is up, Food is up, Medical care is up, Insurance is up (while they cover less), America seems even more hated than four years ago, our Allies do not seem to trust us as much, our Enemies seem emboldened by our softer power approach, the dollar is falling (still), the Fed is printing money (hey why can't I do that? lol), and the list goes on…..and sadly this results in President Obama losing my vote and handing it to Romney.

I know President Obama says he has a plan to fix this….but that should have been done before…and let us not forget the Democrats controlled Congress until the midterm elections…. so why is he waiting for the second term?

As for Romney, if elected, he better put up or plan to have that moving van there at the White House in 2014.

To BOTH Parties: cut the Partison shiet, I do not care about your party, stop the petty crap….. stop leaning to the right, stop leaning to the left, and get back to the Center….. otherwise I am afraid that this country will break apart and that my children will live in a different country while STILL living in one of the 50 FORMER states of the FORMER USA.

Now lets get back to RS! :)

Ugh, not politics on here now too..

From: slushpuppy
believing what these candidates say is like believing that jagex is doing a good job at eradicating bots.

^This

From: iBlank
This is super condensed! When did the moderator correct Romney on his 47% comments, I must have missed that some how? I am pulling an all nighter for an accounting exam tomorrow so that is my excuse for asking you to locate that for me instead of looking it up myself haha! Once I see the moderator's correction I will give my opinions on the debate.

She never corrected Mitt on the 47%, as Obama was the one who brought it up. She corrected Mitt on his accusations about Obama not saying what was going on across seas. She was with Obama in the rose garden when he called it an act of terror. I think she was in the right, moderators should be aloud to fact check the debatees.

From: Based Lord
I was generally disappointed that both candidates could not seem to directly answer basically any of the questions that were asked by the people.

Same. However, it's not near as bad as it was in the 80's. It's gotten a lot better.

From: iBlank
Oh ok, I definitely saw that correction. I think she stepped out of line personally. She could have just influenced a bunch of people who will not go do the fact checking themselves.

If you go look at the transcript of what Obama said he never directly refers to the attack in Libya as an act of terror. It took Obama's administration over 3 days to stop saying the attack was a response to the that video about the Islamic faith and refer to it as terrorism.

I think Obama worded his response the day after the attack ingeniously. His sentence of "acts of terror will never shake resolve.." can be used to say he did refer to it as an attack of terror or he could spin it as if he didn't refer specifically to the Libya attack.

Also, calling something an "act of terror" is much different, in my opinion, than saying "an act of terrorism" or "an act carried about by terrorist".

He called it an act of terror the day after it happened. It did however take two weeks for the official statement to come out from the White House after a full investigation was conducted.

At the point in time when he made the statement, they didn't know what was going on. Calling it an act of terror was the best way to come across it.

One thing that does piss me off is that Romney tried to accuse Obama's administration of hiding things, especially after we lost 4 Americans. Trying to make a political statement after a national security tragedy is wrong.

From: footballjds
CNN put out a corrected statement saying crowles(sp?) correction of romney was wrong.

It was right, it was two different parts.

From: lifestyles
If she is going to inject herself into the debate like that at least correct all of obama's lies instead of taking the side of him when he was wrong yet again.

Technically they're not suppose to interject, but seeing as she was in an awkward position as she was there, I can over look it. Moderators should be given more power.

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In my opinion, the debate was ok. It was a win for the media, not for America.

The best thing to come out of the debate:
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