SRL Archive - Discussions and Debates

Botany bay


Noob King

2012-09-26 23:08:27

Botany bay seem to just be advertisers. Every one of the "bots" I've seen have numbers in front of their name. I wonder how much of their new anti-bot system is even ready yet.

Edit: As well do you think smart is safe to use? I keep getting out of range errors when using WaitOption without smart.

[XoL]

2012-09-26 23:09:05

5%, when you report a advertising bot it gets sent there…
I think their "AI" will need to learn a little before it is ready to ban actual botters.

Noob King

2012-09-26 23:13:58

From: R4nd0m
5%, when you report a advertising bot it gets sent there…
I think their "AI" will need to learn a little before it is ready to ban actual botters.


As well I think it will eventually accidentally ban legit players every now and again.

[XoL]

2012-09-27 00:40:36

From: Noob King
As well I think it will eventually accidentally ban legit players every now and again.


I actually don't think that, I think it will be over safe rather than over ban like.
I feel like certain players will be 100% immune to the tests like the top 100 players (They probably all average 10 hours+ a day)

The rest will be under its watchful eye and the AI will watch for behaviors taught to it by watching other scripts in action (Jagex plays the script, it learns the behaviors).

Noob King

2012-09-27 01:09:26

From: R4nd0m
I actually don't think that, I think it will be over safe rather than over ban like.
I feel like certain players will be 100% immune to the tests like the top 100 players (They probably all average 10 hours+ a day)

The rest will be under its watchful eye and the AI will watch for behaviors taught to it by watching other scripts in action (Jagex plays the script, it learns the behaviors).


Hmm, So if that was the case, private scripts would be "safe" compared to public scripts correct?

[XoL]

2012-09-27 01:13:06

From: Noob King
Hmm, So if that was the case, private scripts would be "safe" compared to public scripts correct?


Yeah that is what I imagine, I mean they are trying to get the bulk not the small minorities.

I figure once it learns enough it can tell the difference exactly between a bot and a human but that will take months (and that is provided we don't try to improve either). Then I suppose it could find private scripts.

Le Jingle

2012-09-27 01:23:51

From: Noob King
Hmm, So if that was the case, private scripts would be "safe" compared to public scripts correct?


In my opinion, this is usually the case.
I've spanned 100m mage xp on a private simba script I made; this isn't to say that my script is good or immune from being banable, yet I'm able to enforce my unique game play (how I go about the game) to the full extent. I generally like randomizing the methods from one account to the next. I wouldn't want Player2 of mine doing the same uniqueness game play that I designed for Player1.

Granted this has nothing of real significance, as botters, thus far in RS can get away on the scale of players using the same script in the thousands/tens of thousands [well built to get 1-10k+ uses :p].

However I do support the fact that top players tend to get an over look, which I do think is justified. For instance, if I got 200m Dung XP by nolifing it for the first several months it was out (a typical top player tactic), if I were jagex, I'd grant that account leeway for hours played per day. This wouldn't extend to excluding bot like behavior (ex. mouse movements), but time played would obviously not be a factor. Another idea for them to exclude time played (if they choose to use it in the BB update to target botters) from top rank legit players could be based off of adventure log time/your time played (not how long you've had your account physically in existence).

All in all (getting back to the BB update main post), I think, at best they will study for x time more - in order to warn/ban 100% positive bots. At worst they'll have no decent detection and the kajillion people all using the same script (i.e. when 1k green dragon bots all go for a loot on the other side of the dungeon that isn't visible..) will continue gold farming/getting free-bie's.

Just my take.
Cheers,
Lj

Mat

2012-09-27 03:03:16

I was Notting for 6 hours bats got two randoms srl failed both, but no bans.

Sirenia

2012-09-27 09:19:40

Seems like private scripts will shine