SRL Archive - RS has been updated.

Botany bay going live now?


Ivo09

2012-09-24 07:39:50

I think an update is scheduled for rs in about 20 minutes (or maybe I just misread the ingame announcement), it's the 24th in the UK so this should be Botany Bay + Botwatch right?

Benny

2012-09-24 07:48:18

Oh fantastic :)

Yep that's it

Ivo09

2012-09-24 07:49:17

Damn I have 27k alches to go until 94 mage.

Justin

2012-09-24 07:49:35

Please read before posting.


Benny

2012-09-24 07:51:01

Maybe it's botwatch then?

Justin

2012-09-24 07:52:18

From: Ivo09
Damn I have 27k alches to go until 94 mage.


Looks like someone might have to legit that

newb cheater

2012-09-24 07:58:44

From: [J]ustin
Please read before posting.



Support I see, are they putting us off the scent and tempting us to bot once more day when they actually placed their detection system and letting it go live

feh55

2012-09-24 08:13:23

Obviously this is the whole game mechanic(system) that will detect the bots. Don't bot after the update or that will grant you an ban.

Deni_mulic

2012-09-24 08:16:38

Too late - they've been collecting data for the past 3 months. Banwave might not be today, but it's coming.

xtrapsp

2012-09-24 08:17:00

Update just happened haha, logging in. I heard on Mod marks chat loads of people are banned. Good thing I don't bot anymore xD

Leonardo Da Vinci

2012-09-24 08:20:32

Well, damn my stupidity, I botted on my main.

feh55

2012-09-24 08:25:57

From: Deni_mulic
Too late - they've been collecting data for the past 3 months. Banwave might not be today, but it's coming.

I believe they said that your pre-sins of botting before the update will not count(only if you are a regular player and not an huge goldselling-bot-every-green-dragon-and-sell-items-for-rsgp-and-sell-it-for-real-money). But if you bot after this system goes live, you are busted.

xtrapsp

2012-09-24 08:31:05

MMG did state that previous botters if they stop wont be banned. Just Saying.

Leonardo Da Vinci

2012-09-24 08:45:01

Phew!
That was close!

Ashaman88

2012-09-24 08:56:40

Lets test this system outttt

i r bot

Deni_mulic

2012-09-24 09:09:41

That's so stupid.
In 4.5 months I've maxed 2 pures, 1 rune pure and 1 tank. They're seriously going to just let that slide?

Leonardo Da Vinci

2012-09-24 09:12:50

From: Deni_mulic
That's so stupid.
In 4.5 months I've maxed 2 pures, 1 rune pure and 1 tank. They're seriously going to just let that slide?


You dislike that?

Ivo09

2012-09-24 09:22:03

From: Deni_mulic
That's so stupid.
In 4.5 months I've maxed 2 pures, 1 rune pure and 1 tank. They're seriously going to just let that slide?


Tell you what, PM the details of all of them and we'll just call them banned.

From: [J]ustin
Looks like someone might have to legit that


Sounds fun. I can't wait to click 54 thousand times over 22 and a half hours.

riwu

2012-09-24 09:42:14

From: Ivo09
Damn I have 27k alches to go until 94 mage.

Whatever system they may have, there is no way to reliably detect a simple alch bot, provided that it has the necessary randomization and anti-ban etc, and an effective breaking system. For most simple tasks, it is possible for the script to be completely human-like. Probably only complex scripts would be detectable unless it is extremely carefully designed.

Footy

2012-09-24 09:51:55

From: riwu
Whatever system they may have, there is no way to reliably detect a simple alch bot, provided that it has the necessary randomization and anti-ban etc, and an effective breaking system. For most simple tasks, it is possible for the script to be completely human-like. Probably only complex scripts would be detectable unless it is extremely carefully designed.



Break a complex script into simple parts, give each simple part sufficient randomness, add a good antiban procedure, It's just as good as a simple script, no?

TehNeonFishy

2012-09-24 14:01:24

So when is Botany Bay coming out? Tomorrow? :o

litoris

2012-09-24 14:18:47

Jmod posted in RSOF saying botany bay won't happen today, late updates as always. I suppose it'll be tuesday along with the al kharid rework+quests.

Tesa

2012-09-24 14:32:57

I cant wait to see this happen!

The Killer

2012-09-24 15:09:53

From: Tesa
I cant wait to see this happen!


gz on first post :P
ot: A mod confirmed botany bay is this week earlier :D - and no I havn't got proof :D

Rezozo

2012-09-24 15:20:51

I almost never bot on my main, so Im still gonna be fine.

To me, all this means is I will have to babysit my bots, not run them at night, or at school.
Not much difference from now :P

Ian

2012-09-24 15:28:18

Yeah, I wanted to get 85 magic on my main but oh well, maybe later.

Austin

2012-09-24 15:30:41

From: feh55
I believe they said that your pre-sins of botting before the update will not count(only if you are a regular player and not an huge goldselling-bot-every-green-dragon-and-sell-items-for-rsgp-and-sell-it-for-real-money). But if you bot after this system goes live, you are busted.

^This, I've been botting until this morning and my main isn't banned or even close. Haven't been goldfarming, just blending in with other players

l6bustank

2012-09-24 15:52:50

Goldfarmed for my main's santa and h'ween set with 1 acc. Not banned. (yet?)

Kampf Gewehr

2012-09-24 17:07:06

botted six 99's on my main lol. Was in the process of 99 fishing and cooking when this got released. we will see if he is still around later…

EDIT: hasn't yet been released, but you know what I mean.

Im New Sry

2012-09-24 17:58:40

My classmate didn't get banned, he left his bot on all day today and this night won't ne any different. Jagex lied about botany bay's release date…

Footy

2012-09-24 18:13:15

They never officially stated an official date, did they?

Silentcore

2012-09-24 18:22:05

From: Footy
They never officially stated an official date, did they?


No, but they gave an idea of them releasing it this week.

Ian

2012-09-24 18:23:23

I don't know if they did, but even if they did it doesn't mean they lied. They're just behind schedule is all.

Silentcore

2012-09-24 18:27:21

From: BMWxi
I don't know if they did, but even if they did it doesn't mean they lied. They're just behind schedule is all.


Or maybe they realeasedit already and we just dontow about until we see our account banned.

NKN

2012-09-24 18:28:44

I might suicide a account and document my findings for the good of SRL

Footy

2012-09-24 18:33:22

From: NKN
I might suicide a account and document my findings for the good of SRL


You're a good man, NKN. A good man…

Austin

2012-09-24 18:38:18

No, Botany Bay didn't come out today, or this week, but according to the previous post with the screenie of the JMod commenting on this morning's (morning for me at least) update, they added support for Botany Bay which probably means they introduced the "bot watch" now.. And the "bot watch" is the big thing here, not the stupid Bay D&D. So my take on it is they're getting a list of the bots atm and will nuke'em next week and have a huge celebration/change the RS homepage/announce it to everyone in the world, just like they did last year.

Silentcore

2012-09-24 18:39:55

From: NKN
I might suicide a account and document my findings for the good of SRL


Not to mention but I'm also going to be testing with a bunch accounts I have in hand.

aus tom

2012-09-24 19:19:47

Auto clicker?

Ian

2012-09-24 19:32:21

From: Austin
No, Botany Bay didn't come out today, or this week, but according to the previous post with the screenie of the JMod commenting on this morning's (morning for me at least) update, they added support for Botany Bay which probably means they introduced the "bot watch" now.. And the "bot watch" is the big thing here, not the stupid Bay D&D. So my take on it is they're getting a list of the bots atm and will nuke'em next week and have a huge celebration/change the RS homepage/announce it to everyone in the world, just like they did last year.


Yeah, Jagex are into public displays of punishment aren't they:D

Kampf Gewehr

2012-09-24 19:59:51

Wonder if anyone is keeping an eye on the high-scores?

Rezozo

2012-09-24 20:01:01

From: aus tom
Auto clicker?


Na man, Random clickers and spam advertising of RSBot, Villavu and Epicbot with an autotyper :)

Ivo09

2012-09-24 20:12:54

From: Footy
Break a complex script into simple parts, give each simple part sufficient randomness, add a good antiban procedure, It's just as good as a simple script, no?


I've gone through the script and the randomization is fairly solid, using a slightly modified version of Teh's alcher. But I've been 24/7ing and in the same spots (where else to alch except soul wars and daemonheim), so I'm fairly worried.

Footy

2012-09-24 20:14:45

God, if you bot the same thing more then 6 hours a day, you are asking for a ban.

Ivo09

2012-09-24 20:23:09

From: Footy
God, if you bot the same thing more then 6 hours a day, you are asking for a ban.


More than 6? Lol I've done more than 6 hours a day on one thing legit. I botted 99 strength in f2p doing 12-18 hours a day in the same spot, every single day. 6 hours is just unrealistic, not even a good night's sleep.

Footy

2012-09-24 20:39:47

Legitting is a different story. If you are continuously doing the exact same thing for six hours without a break, jagex will eventually catch on. Everything in the past means nothing, their bot-detection was crap. They might have finally brought out the real deal this time.

Kampf Gewehr

2012-09-24 21:44:00

Lol I wonder how Jagex tested this stuff?

Deni_mulic

2012-09-24 22:50:22

From: Footy
Legitting is a different story. If you are continuously doing the exact same thing for six hours without a break, jagex will eventually catch on. Everything in the past means nothing, their bot-detection was crap. They might have finally brought out the real deal this time.


Bot detection in 06/7 was amazing compared to what they're using now. Using default SCAR Functions like Mouse and botting 2 hours a day would get your auto miner perm-banned.

Now you can bot moss giants for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, max out your char and not even get an infraction.

Ian

2012-09-24 22:54:08

From: Kampf Gewehr
Lol I wonder how Jagex tested this stuff?


Probably banned a few early :p

print

2012-09-24 23:03:15

Whens the update gonna happen
??

Rezozo

2012-09-25 06:49:11

From: print
Whens the update gonna happen
??


By the end of the month supposedly.
Right now it is botwatch, just banning (trying?) all the auto typers and clickers.

feh55

2012-09-26 10:14:58

Botany Bay in 3 min?

J J

2012-09-26 10:16:51

From: feh55
Botany Bay in 3 min?

Yup.
http://services.runescape.com/m=news/botany-bay

As part of our ongoing war on botting and gold farming , we launch Botany Bay! Those found to be using illegal software will be permanently banned and their account deleted - with no chance of appeal should they continue to ignore our warnings. After our recent major banning of professional gold farmers - Botany Bay is your chance to publicly name and shame persistent bot abusers!

As we hunt for and identify botters, you - the good citizens of Gielinor - will be the ultimate deliverers of justice!

Unrepentant and persistent bot-users will now find themselves banished to Botany Bay. This foreboding island is the staging ground for trials run by the Botfinder General, where there's only one verdict and justice is swift and uncompromising.

Those of you wishing to take part in the trials can speak to any of the trial announcers found in major Gielinor cities. You'll be teleported to the courtroom on Botany Bay, and given access to portals that can take you back any time. You'll be invited to pelt the condemned with rotten tomatoes, and will be asked to vote, along with other like-minded players, on one of three account-ending punishments:

Death by Crushing: Nothing says "banned" like a bot pancake.
Death by Swallowing: Watch as the bot is devoured by something unspeakable from the Abyss. Mm…crunchy.
Death by Deity: Righteous rays of bot-melting justice are the choice of the discerning angry mob.

Vote in three trials, and you'll be rewarded with a wieldable pitchfork of vigilantism. After that, the next three trials you vote in will unlock increasingly angry emotes, which can be performed by right-clicking your pitchfork. Finally, your seventh trial will reward you with the gloriously pointy pitchfork of justice.

We will continue to evolve our anti-botting measures to hunt down those guilty of trying to spoil the game for genuine players. So while we continue with the investigations, the trials can commence for those already found out!

Mod Mark

How to access Botany Bay

Speak to a trial announcer in one of Gielinor's major cities.

Requirements

None.

If you haven't already, take a look at Botany Bay in our recent Behind the Scenes video:

For further details of Jagex's anti-bot strategy, check out this recent Live Q&A with CEO Mod MMG and Lead Designer Mod Mark:

GuthixBoss1

2012-09-26 10:22:36

This most recent update is Botany Bay.

Leonardo Da Vinci

2012-09-26 10:28:13

So it begins…

Horatio

2012-09-26 10:37:50

Like 10 minutes and not a single bot was spotted at botany bay. Looks like a great update again, what's the use if you get a few warnings before you are banned?

Ian

2012-09-26 15:08:29

From: Jagex
Those found to be using illegal software will be permanently banned and their account deleted


They should have worded that differently unless they really do mean they won't ban us :p

feh55

2012-09-27 11:07:29

I just got this screen..
http://i47.tinypic.com/258xurm.jpg
Have'nt botted.

Ashaman88

2012-09-27 11:15:52

From: feh55
I just got this screen..
http://i47.tinypic.com/258xurm.jpg
Have'nt botted.


http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?15,16,309,64015642

nokkasiili

2012-09-27 11:19:31

I botted for real and didnt get anything :spot:

feh55

2012-09-27 11:20:11

From: Ashaman88
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?15,16,309,64015642


Tnx. I think my heart stopped for a min.

freezeyp

2012-09-27 11:26:02

From: feh55
Tnx. I think my heart stopped for a min.


My heart stop too when I got the message that my 2nd account was banned permenently without receive any warning, even though I am using that account for botwatch system experiment.

GodFiend

2012-09-27 11:29:24

Jagex's solution to the botting problem: Ban everybody!

I'm not logging in until this is fixed, but I checked my highscores and I have not been banned. :)

https://twitter.com/RuneScape/status/251337327417389057

^– Yeah, difficulties is right! –^

EDIT: Now the twitter link is not working. I feel bad for all the people who were unfairly banned while in GWD or similarly dangerous areas. When Jagex unbans them and they log in, they are going to die.

EDIT #2: This is my favorite post so far: "I was killing green dragon bots with my body[sic] at the rev cave, then got the message."

Oh, the irony!