Botany Bay
Justin
2012-09-01 07:45:02
So Jagex just released BTS for September… And noticed this…
Botany Bay (free and members)
As you have no doubt read, we're almost ready to reveal our latest and greatest blow against the evil botters that pollute the game. While the Engine and System teams have been fixing, testing and improving the system, we thought it would be great if all players were able to get involved in punishing these clockwork menaces…so we’ve created Botany Bay.
After a cheating, rule-breaking, botting account has been caught in the act, they will be teleported to Botany Bay: a new location, hidden on a dark, foreboding island and run by the Botfinder General. Here, real players will be invited to listen to a fully voiced speech from the General, while pelting the offender with rotten tomatoes. You'll then be invited to choose one of three game-ending punishments for the offender, resulting in a brutal set of animations and a permanent ban. You’ll be able to hear about ongoing trials via the announcers that sit near several busy in-game locations. They will also offer a handy teleport to anyone nearby
Link:
http://services.runescape.com/m=news/behind-the-scenes-septemberWonder how this will go down :P
Solar
2012-09-01 07:55:28
Interesting concept, but I think it will be dead most of the time. A deserted island.
litoris
2012-09-01 07:57:47
Sounds nice. I thought they were against naming and shaming.
Just another gimmick to amplify banning of bots and play down the increment of bots should the nuke fail.
Austin
2012-09-01 08:04:07
Was just about to make a thread about this lol.
Anyways, I wonder how this will affect botting as a whole. If it's just like it is now and instead of Jagex perm banning you, they let the players do it, then I don't think it will change botting much.
Do you guys think they will release better bot-detection methods along with this update? If so, then I might take a break from botting on my main lol. Also, it looks like once your sent to this island, there's no way of getting out and avoiding a perm ban =/
But then again, Jagex will definitely make sure that the account is being botted on before sending them here and embarrassing them in front of the RS community.. so will they actually ban less people than before?
Anyways, I'm going to bot hardcore on my main until this thing comes out lol, then maybe take a break for a bit to see how things turn out. ;)
I'm going to bot on Botany Bay if I ever get there.
grats
2012-09-01 08:23:09
I have a new goal to achieve, gain access to the bot bay
Divus
2012-09-01 08:23:13
Lol JJ i can see you getting there and just be like.. #YOLO
grats
2012-09-01 08:32:32
From: Austin
Was just about to make a thread about this lol.
Anyways, I wonder how this will affect botting as a whole. If it's just like it is now and instead of Jagex perm banning you, they let the players do it, then I don't think it will change botting much.
Do you guys think they will release better bot-detection methods along with this update? If so, then I might take a break from botting on my main lol. Also, it looks like once your sent to this island, there's no way of getting out and avoiding a perm ban =/
But then again, Jagex will definitely make sure that the account is being botted on before sending them here and embarrassing them in front of the RS community.. so will they actually ban less people than before?
Anyways, I'm going to bot hardcore on my main until this thing comes out lol, then maybe take a break for a bit to see how things turn out. ;)
I'm going to pretend to bot while playing legit, on a char named "I r bot (random number here)" and then when I get ported there start crying
they damn well better add better bot detection
LemonHaze
2012-09-01 08:47:22
haha, I'm going to use a high banrate script on a nub acc, to get there lol
@grats. Sounds like a plan im looking forward to see how this goes down myself.
From: CRU1Z1N
@grats. Sounds like a plan im looking forward to see how this goes down myself.
I might make a Botany Bay script that does things with a ridiculous high banrate :P The problem is that your other accounts might get flagged aswell so I'll run it on a VPS :P
grats
2012-09-01 09:04:46
Yea that's one thing I've never understood about them, their IP watching seems to be nonexistent yet… networking is my field so it baffles me when I think they don't monitor IP… and I believe it to be unreal. I'm not sure what you have to do to get all of accounts banned on an IP but I've ran hundreds of them on this IP from other people & myself, so.. idk
Footy
2012-09-01 09:33:09
Sounds similar to the old black hole! Hope they get rid of injection with this update, at least for a few months.
[XoL]
2012-09-01 09:34:18
Interesting… This is like the disk of return
Oxygen
2012-09-01 09:57:10
So now rather than getting a random event, you get banned?
This is going to need some epic anti ban to get out of Botany Bay if you even can.
Brotein
2012-09-01 11:23:50
Stupid update.
From: grats
Yea that's one thing I've never understood about them, their IP watching seems to be nonexistent yet… networking is my field so it baffles me when I think they don't monitor IP… and I believe it to be unreal. I'm not sure what you have to do to get all of accounts banned on an IP but I've ran hundreds of them on this IP from other people & myself, so.. idk
Yeah, I know, it makes me wonder if they are keeping track of botting IPs and just waiting till the botnuke is announced to ban them all, just to make it seem more impressive.
Footy
2012-09-01 14:21:17
From: Oxygen
So now rather than getting a random event, you get banned?
This is going to need some epic anti ban to get out of Botany Bay if you even can.
Not quite.
You still get randoms and all that stuff, but now, instead of not being able to log in after being banned, you get sent to botany bay. Once you are there, there's no getting out, like the old black hole.
Le Jingle
2012-09-01 14:25:37
Is this out yet? I had an account standing on a seeming less deserted island, next to water, and thought it was just a mis-walk into Relleka. So I just tabbed back to the scripts running area and restarted. Hmm.. Think I'll cool off that one account asap. O.O
Edit: Read on the article/homepage that you become perm banned after achieving Botany Bay status? So perhaps I was mistaken.
TehNeonFishy
2012-09-01 18:26:57
I hope the offender can still use chat. That would be awesome for some last words. :P
Daniel
2012-09-01 18:52:26
From: BMWxi
Yeah, I know, it makes me wonder if they are keeping track of botting IPs and just waiting till the botnuke is announced to ban them all, just to make it seem more impressive.
They used to do that. In fact, I don't see any reason why they would stop ;)
Singin' too-rah-li-ooh-rah-li-attidy, singin' too-rah-li-ooh-rah-li-aye!
stuartroad
2012-09-01 21:03:50
From: Daniel
They used to do that. In fact, I don't see any reason why they would stop ;)
Singin' too-rah-li-ooh-rah-li-attidy, singin' too-rah-li-ooh-rah-li-aye!
i could not get that song out of my head last night when i went to bed because of this, rofl
Justin
2012-09-01 21:12:09
From: Le Jingle
Is this out yet? I had an account standing on a seeming less deserted island, next to water, and thought it was just a mis-walk into Relleka. So I just tabbed back to the scripts running area and restarted. Hmm.. Think I'll cool off that one account asap. O.O
Edit: Read on the article/homepage that you become perm banned after achieving Botany Bay status? So perhaps I was mistaken.
It isn't released yet but it will be within the month if all goes well
Silentcore
2012-09-01 21:37:24
Just another way to get players scared about one of their updates. I'm on my last 99 before I take a break, 9 more Lvls.
Divus
2012-09-01 21:42:09
From: Ucantseemebot
Just another way to get players scared about one of their updates. I'm on my last 99 before I take a break, 9 more Lvls.
Yea i feel the same way, im just working now to get all skills 90+. So glad i got 99 agility already :p
Silentcore
2012-09-01 21:46:07
From: Divus
Yea i feel the same way, im just working now to get all skills 90+. So glad i got 99 agility already :p
Lol that's funny that you remember the skill I'm trying to get to 99.
Divus
2012-09-01 21:52:26
i didnt know :o i was just saying.. wow thats weird 0.o
pulse0
2012-09-01 22:25:27
bringing back a modified black hole? lol there will be a glitch where the disk of returning transfers you out :P back to botting
grats
2012-09-01 22:29:36
From: BMWxi
Yeah, I know, it makes me wonder if they are keeping track of botting IPs and just waiting till the botnuke is announced to ban them all, just to make it seem more impressive.
I'll let you know if that happens, hopefully I see this sweet bot bay at work
This is retarded.
Its just a new Black Hole. Such a waste of time.
Benny
2012-09-02 03:34:38
nearly 99 mining and then the rest as I have done before can be done legit :)
LemonHaze
2012-09-02 04:03:01
I'm going to finish construction before this thing comes out.
Not overly worried, don't intend on doing big long bot runs anymore, so I think I will be alright :)
nokkasiili
2012-09-02 06:55:24
It seems when jagex tell about such updates. It will just make people bot more:D
TehNeonFishy
2012-09-03 09:02:50
The only reason they are releasing this is because legit's like to see bots get banned, whenever there is a jmod they follow them to the wildy ditch or wherever they do their little banning sprees now. xD
krasniy
2012-09-03 10:41:43
I wonder if in time there will be "fake bots" with "fake names" autogenerated by the server to keep a constant supply of trials… ????
Austin
2012-09-03 12:08:20
From: krasniy
I wonder if in time there will be "fake bots" with "fake names" autogenerated by the server to keep a constant supply of trials… ????
And the point of that would be ? If they did that, they might as well create fake players with fake names to attend the trials :rolleyes:
Footy
2012-09-03 12:12:51
Next to no-one is being banned these days, so Botany bay would always be vacant. I wouldn't be surprised if they did make fake accounts to fill up botany bay.
Solar
2012-09-03 13:21:27
The only way they would keep the bay occupied is by banning the masses of gold farming bots slowly, instead of a mass ban which is expected from the second bot busting update.
Austin
2012-09-03 17:48:04
From: Solar
The only way they would keep the bay occupied is by banning the masses of gold farming bots slowly, instead of a mass ban which is expected from the second bot busting update.
And maybe Botany Bays are only on certain worlds, which would take a lot less banning to fill them. They'll probably have 1 bot at a time, so they really wouldn't be hard to have filled all the time, especially with all the obvious goldfarmers. Who knows how long each trial will take anyways?
Footy
2012-09-03 17:52:48
Maybe a botany bay world, where if you are banned, thats the only world you can log onto, and non banned people can log into that world, which is only botany bay, seperate from the other servers, and witness the trials. TBH, If I got banned, I wouldnt sit through a trial, I would just log off.
Solar
2012-09-03 17:58:53
I don't think they would go so far as to make a server specifically for the bay.
You make a good point about the trial though, barely anyone would just stay logged in to watch, especially after people know what goes on. To make people want to stay on for the trial they would have to make each one unique.
Andres
2012-09-04 09:27:12
From: Footy
Next to no-one is being banned these days, so Botany bay would always be vacant. I wouldn't be surprised if they did make fake accounts to fill up botany bay.
Enough goldfarmers are banned that they would be able to show they're banning them. That doesn't change the fact that the vast majority remain unbanned.
thomas1116
2012-09-04 10:47:30
well fuck jagex,this is stupid and childris lol ……
its like hitler did , put everyone up on a wall , and everybody cud see they getting killed lol
Jagex = racist's
Silentcore
2012-09-04 10:55:38
From: thomas1116
well fuck jagex,this is stupid and childris lol ……
its like hitler did , put everyone up on a wall , and everybody cud see they getting killed lol
Jagex = racist's
aybe we should bring this up and let's see what runescape says. We should all Riot at world 1 saying it's racist.
litoris
2012-09-04 11:21:44
From: thomas1116
well fuck jagex,this is stupid and childris lol ……
its like hitler did , put everyone up on a wall , and everybody cud see they getting killed lol
Jagex = racist's
ikr, because hitler invented execution, people never killed other by lining them up against a wall before that
Andres
2012-09-04 15:54:36
From: thomas1116
well fuck jagex,this is stupid and childris lol ……
its like hitler did , put everyone up on a wall , and everybody cud see they getting killed lol
Jagex = racist's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis.
Your analogy is terrible.
WT-Fakawi
2012-09-04 16:44:23
This is an utter waist of Gajex bandwidth. Who cares whether I'd be taken to a scenery or be banned permanently? Seriously? Maybe I didn't uderstand it correctly, but is there any difference in permban or BotBay? What a waist.
I see only one advantage: If I destroy my bot, can I revive it with the same name?
TehNeonFishy
2012-09-04 17:11:16
I'll be interested in what this actually turns out to be and how the legit's will take it. I haven't heard it mentioned once in-game.
Echo_
2012-09-04 18:47:35
Time to write a tomato-throwing script
BadKarma
2012-09-22 17:50:09
Adbots are exploding
From: Echo_
Time to write a tomato-throwing script
This :D
Like we need a army of bots there, saying "Throw Tomato at Bot."
:D
JPHamlett
2012-09-22 18:03:55
From: grats
Yea that's one thing I've never understood about them, their IP watching seems to be nonexistent yet… networking is my field so it baffles me when I think they don't monitor IP… and I believe it to be unreal. I'm not sure what you have to do to get all of accounts banned on an IP but I've ran hundreds of them on this IP from other people & myself, so.. idk
Well maybe they don't use IP detection because sometimes people share computers….What about library computers or internet cafes?
Footy
2012-09-22 18:25:27
From: JPHamlett
Well maybe they don't use IP detection because sometimes people share computers….What about library computers or internet cafes?
Let's be honest, would anyone ever play RS in public? :p
Silentcore
2012-09-22 19:30:09
From: Footy
Let's be honest, would anyone ever play RS in public? :p
I'm sorry to break the news to you footy but Me and other friends of mine play on a library when we feel like it.
Footy
2012-09-22 19:38:31
I have no IRL friends who play… I dont even have any IRL friends who know I play… :p
Silentcore
2012-09-22 19:50:10
From: Footy
I have no IRL friends who play… I dont even have any IRL friends who know I play… :p
Lol, my friends play and they know I play but they don't know I bot. lol. They ask me how I lvl up soo fast and I tell them that I have this other friend of mine who helps me train.
Austin
2012-09-22 20:11:34
From: Footy
I have no IRL friends who play… I dont even have any IRL friends who know I play… :p
I have a few IRL friends that play lol, we used to play in the library at school ;)
newb cheater
2012-09-22 23:30:58
From: Footy
I have no IRL friends who play… I dont even have any IRL friends who know I play… :p
I am with you on that. Some people just have something against rs, but anyway, its a good place to distress especially when you are tensed up and need someone to whack
From: Footy
I have no IRL friends who play… I dont even have any IRL friends who know I play… :p
Yeah I know…. All my friends played in grade 5 and now none play lol
superbuster4
2012-09-23 14:55:06
well color bots will die as so it seems, the new frame work is crazy, and powerbot is already updated to prepare for the mad chaos, i bought 200m worth of dbones in hopes of seeing my investment double
The Killer
2012-09-23 16:11:00
From: BMWxi
Yeah I know…. All my friends played in grade 5 and now none play lol
+1 but we dont have "grades" we have years in da UK
From: superbuster4
well color bots will die as so it seems, the new frame work is crazy, and powerbot is already updated to prepare for the mad chaos, i bought 200m worth of dbones in hopes of seeing my investment double
I disagree pretty strongly with your statement that pb is ready and colour will die… I might be a bit biased but I think that if the staff at pb said that they have updated to be ready for the mad chaos or whatever then they're bluffing. Guess we'll have to wait and see who comes out on top
kanah
2012-09-23 16:48:43
I think it'd be awesome to fill that area with bots (the spectator area) and mock the caught bots with bots.
From: kanah
I think it'd be awesome to fill that area with bots (the spectator area) and mock the caught bots with bots.
While alching :D
venomacer
2012-09-27 12:00:17
greetings from beyond the grave. apparently the bothuting system has failed as a friend of mine and I, the former never having botted and I, the latter, guilty of testing epicbot and simba for quite some time have been smitten by its cruel hand. emphasis on my friend having never botted.
Ashaman88
2012-09-27 12:04:33
From: venomacer
greetings from beyond the grave. apparently the bothuting system has failed as a friend of mine and I, the former never having botted and I, the latter, guilty of testing epicbot and simba for quite some time have been smitten by its cruel hand. emphasis on my friend having never botted.
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?15,16,748,64015981
zertunami
2012-09-27 12:58:33
From: Footy
Let's be honest, would anyone ever play RS in public? :p
I play using my university's wifi, is that close enough?