SRL Archive - Banned Users

Joe has been permanently banned due to RS account hacking and item theft.

As we all know, this behaviour is unwelcome here at SRL, and it is extremely saddening to see it come from an SRL member.

From: YoHoJo
Joe admittedly stole 50M from Based Lord, and after multiple requests from Based Lord himself and me he refused go give it back.

- The SRL Staff.

That really is too bad

Joe. D:

Shame to see it from a SRL Member…

^ Vouch.

I really liked that guy. Huh.

:'( Not joe…

Joe taught me a few things ..

D:

What we really want to know: Who he hacked, and for how much.

How much GP does it take to get a SRL Member to do that. :(

From: NKN
What we really want to know: Who he hacked, and for how much.

How much GP does it take to get a SRL Member to do that. :(

^This.

Can't believe he would do this :o he seemed nice

Daniel can you provide us with more info please (specifically what NKN asked)?

Sad to see someone do something like this especially from someone we never expected to do anything like this.

Omfg Joe did something like that.

This is just depressing. I liked that guy. :(

It is sad to see a SRL member go down because of the greediness. I will never understand why users and members will take a certain amount of virtual goods above of a respected account on this forum. One of the point we promote our selfs with, and try to stand out of the crowd, is that we have no pixel greedy scammers between us. This however is not possible because humans differ and the online aspect of a forum will always make certain people acting in ways they would not be like in a normal day in there real life.

Today it seems one of our trusted SRL members, joe, has betrayed us and apparently a player by taking their pixels. Let's hope this will not happen in the near future again.

Total Posts: 1,305
Posts Per Day: 6.76

Wow, it seems he got a very high amount of posts per day. Why would he just give up this account for some pixels… 6.76 posts per day… That is quite a lot if you ask me.

From: masterBB
It is sad to see a SRL member go down because of the greediness. I will never understand why users and members will take a certain amount of virtual goods above of a respected account on this forum. One of the point we promote our selfs with, and try to stand out of the crowd, is that we have no pixel greedy scammers between us. This however is not possible because humans differ and the online aspect of a forum will always make certain people acting in ways they would not be like in a normal day in there real life.

Today it seems one of our trusted SRL members, joe, has betrayed us and apparently a player by taking their pixels. Let's hope this will not happen in the near future again.

Total Posts: 1,305
Posts Per Day: 6.76

Wow, it seems he got a very high amount of posts per day. Why would he just give up this account for some pixels… 6.76 posts per day… That is quite a lot if you ask me.

Well said. +Rep for the explanation

Total Posts: 1,305
Posts Per Day: 6.76

It almost makes you think did he post that much to gain trust amongst the community?

EDIT: Just noticed a lot of people post that much. Ignore my comment.

Who did he scam?

Joe admittedly stole 50M from Based Lord, and after multiple requests from Based Lord himself and me he refused go give it back.

[10:04:50 PM] Shay.: hes been here 191 days, 6.75 posts can be rounded to 7 posts a day, considering a minute spent on villavu for every post, its 7 minutes a day, multiply that by 191 and he's spent 1337 minutes here :x
[10:05:38 PM] Shay.: 1337 minutes is equivalent to 22.3 hours, 50M / 22.3 is about 2.2M/h profit
[10:05:40 PM] Shay.: smh
[10:05:54 PM] Shay.: Not to mention the time he's spent coding etc
[10:06:13 PM] Shay.: reduces it to like 1m/h = $.45

My calculations :d

Wow, that's only ~20$… Can't believe he banned himself over that.

Sure Joe wasn't hacked, too? Loved that guy, can't bring myself to believe he'd turn on someone for 50m rsgp..

Only 50M… Wow. Joe kept things fresh, its sad he's gone, but wow. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't be part of SRL, its such a great place. Hopefully he has a good life.

From: JN13
Only 50M… Wow. Joe kept things fresh, its sad he's gone, but wow. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't be part of SRL, its such a great place. Hopefully he has a good life.

You make it sound like he's terminally ill and is about to die :x

From: Shay
You make it sound like he's terminally ill and is about to die :x

Might as well be! SRL>ALL

From: Shay
You make it sound like he's terminally ill and is about to die :x

Ya… that was kinda the point. :p

Wow, :( sad the hear this… Good job on the SRL team tho for still not allowing anything like the go unnoticed, no matter who it is.

It's kinda shameful that this happened, and like you said, from a Member here in the community. I'm sorry to hear that he decided someone else's money was more important than being a part of SRL. Respect isn't easy to come by, and from what I've heard he had respect from others here; I hope soon he realizes it's not something you can gain back from stealing from others.

But on the other hand, kudos to our staff for getting on top of this so quickly. 'Tis nice to know we have a team here on SRL to handle things like this.

Sad to hear.. he was pretty entertaining, but rules are rules and stealing pixels is still messed up :/

Well everyone seems to be saying the same thing over and over to make themselves look good, so I guess I will too to try to fit in.

*insert something about how this is sad to hear and shameful and a semicolon sad/unhappy/worried face*

From: Nebula
Well everyone seems to be saying the same thing over and over to make themselves look good, so I guess I will too to try to fit in.

*insert something about how this is sad to hear and shameful and a semicolon sad/unhappy/worried face*

Whats everyone supposed to do? Be glad?

Pretty sad that he stole from other people in the SRL community for RSGP.
He could have just spent some $$ on a powerbot script and easily made 50M .

From: vaporak10
Whats everyone supposed to do? Be glad?

Yeah, be glad a scammer is gone. I'm sure Based Lord will survive without the account.

Speaking of, I'd like to see what he has to say about this, on this thread..

I heard people don't get IP banned here, is that true? Then he can easily use a alt and come back.

I really did not want it too end this way. I gave him over 3 days and many chances :(

From: Based Lord
I really did not want it too end this way. I gave him over 3 days and many chances :(

How did he end with the 50m?

:/ really sad, dang if I knew he "needed" rsgp that bad I could of helped :/

From: R4nd0m
:/ really sad, dang if I knew he "needed" rsgp that bad I could of helped :/

Give dat 5m you supposed to give me to him :p

What a pitty, he was most entertaining at times! Will be missed.

From: vaporak10
I heard people don't get IP banned here, is that true? Then he can easily use a alt and come back.

It takes very minimal effort to change an ip.

From: Ucantseemebot
How did he end with the 50m?

I went first (He had more posts then me, had no problem with going first)

From: R4nd0m
:/ really sad, dang if I knew he "needed" rsgp that bad I could of helped :/

Well the story is a bit strange and far-fetched. Not sure giving him RSGP would have prevented it


Edit: Btw, I sold Joe 50M and went first. None of my accounts were hacked if anyone missed that

From: Based Lord
I went first (He had more posts then me, had no problem with going first)

What were you trying to get in return for the 50m?

Wow, this sucks…
All I can say.

BTW, was really relieved it said Joe, Not Joey

What is the proof though?

From: Ucantseemebot
What were you trying to get in return for the 50m?

I was willing to take basically anything (~20$/50M) I also told him he could offer me other things but he just decided to move on

From: JoeyGupta
Wow, this sucks…
All I can say.

BTW, was really relieved it said Joe, Not Joey

What is the proof though?

I think if the admins wanted the proof public they would have posted more info about it
Besides Joe straight up admitting it, I had a few screenshots

Ouch :S Not good :(

Cant believe we lost one of our members for 50 mil ,
if it was 50 billions i would understand it …

From: (s)okkr7
Sure Joe wasn't hacked, too? Loved that guy, can't bring myself to believe he'd turn on someone for 50m rsgp..

The SRL staff would of checked IPs ect before banning the account.

50m really?
Wow, I'm shocked…

From: Shay
My calculations :d

Nice math ;) but ouch, confused he'd give it al up.

From: YoHoJo
Joe admittedly stole 50M from Based Lord, and after multiple requests from Based Lord himself and me he refused go give it back.

>.< only 50m

The guy must have been desperate to take the risk of getting banned on here for such a petty amount.

That's sad, I had learned a lot from studying his well-commented scripts.

I did not expect this….

From: vaporak10
I heard people don't get IP banned here, is that true? Then he can easily use a alt and come back.

IP bans do not work. Even if he was IP banned, what is stopping him from coming back with an alt account?

From: cycrosism
IP bans do not work. Even if he was IP banned, what is stopping him from coming back with an alt account?

Yep yep. IMO, it's not about stopping this individual from ever entering Villavu again, it's about exposing his mistake and disabling his account all together to make him realize how serious it was. If he chooses to return later on another account then hopeful he'll have changed, but should he choose to leave the community all together, so be it.

really for just 50m.. you would think it would be much more for him to scam.

wow. i know i put a foot out of line but Joe? scamming for 50m.
that's terrible.
would have expected more from such a person tbh.

but this is runescape. and people always put pixels first regardless of how they feel about the owner\where they take it from.

he got $20 good price for lossing his acc.

^
Nah. I'd want 30.

From: Vinyl Scratch
^
Nah. I'd want 30.

*puts account into the watched list* :p lol I really didn't see this one…. joe seemed like a nice guy….. That is just stupid -.- does anyone know if he made a new account and tried to explain himself? maybe he was hacked or something…. wow is basically all I have to say. He had a large post count and he took the time to learn how to script as he was a SRL member…. and what shay said about him earn 1m/hr I bet he got much less because of all the time he most likely spent learning and doing stuff other than just posting…. how ever I can agree I hate theifs :(

From: Getdropped
That is just stupid -.- does anyone know if he made a new account and tried to explain himself? maybe he was hacked or something…. wow is basically all I have to say. He had a large post count and he took the time to learn how to script as he was a SRL member….

Don't you think the admins would have solid evidence before banning a SRL Member such as Joe?

I'm sorry that it happened, but he was given many chances :(
Also, he had plenty of time to "explain himself". The scam happened almost a week ago.

Like some say, I don't understand what's to keep him from coming back and getting SRL membership(since hes a good scripter), then doing the same thing again when he gets the chance? People are more trusting towards SRL members.

From: cycrosism
IP bans do not work. Even if he was IP banned, what is stopping him from coming back with an alt account?

Why shouldn't a IP ban work? If you use a static IP, like me, you have to contact your provider to change the IP. On villavu, the admins could do a IP-pool ban and even then they won't probably hit a innocent victim.

From: Gala
Why shouldn't a IP ban work? If you use a static IP, like me, you have to contact your provider to change the IP. On villavu, the admins could do a IP-pool ban and even then they won't probably hit a innocent victim.

Because everyone who ever had that IP / were part of that pool would be banned / unable to register

IP banning on a forum where programming and scripting is taught is not that effective. Most of us know how to use a proxy, by not IP banning users it is easier to track their attempts of creating a new account and continuing there behavior. IMO people shouldn't be IP banned.

From: grats
Because everyone who ever had that IP / were part of that pool would be banned / unable to register

I am speaking about people with static IP.

Im fairly sure that Joe is in the 14-17 range and doesn't live alone and would have to talk to his parents to call ISP etc. Unless his parents dont give a shit, it could be really effective.

I thought the reason we didn't do ip bans was if the person had innocent siblings which it wouldn't be fair on.

From: Shay
Im fairly sure that Joe is in the 14-17 range and doesn't live alone and would have to talk to his parents to call ISP etc. Unless his parents dont give a shit, it could be really effective.

But if he got a dynamic IP he could reboot the router I think.

From: Shay
Im fairly sure that Joe is in the 14-17 range and doesn't live alone and would have to talk to his parents to call ISP etc. Unless his parents dont give a shit, it could be really effective.

If that's true then it would explain why he would take 50m, under the age of 20 sometimes it's hard to contain greed, even if it is pixels.

[26/08/2012 8:35:24 PM] Joe: lololhello
[26/08/2012 8:35:36 PM] Joe: (mooning)
[26/08/2012 8:35:36 PM] Greg GRATS: sup dork
[26/08/2012 8:35:42 PM] Joe: miss me?
[26/08/2012 8:35:50 PM] Greg GRATS: no
[26/08/2012 8:35:54 PM] Joe: :(
[26/08/2012 8:36:00 PM] Greg GRATS: I heard you stole some money
[26/08/2012 8:36:04 PM] Greg GRATS: that's pretty thug
[26/08/2012 8:36:07 PM] Greg GRATS: not even I am that thug
[26/08/2012 8:36:41 PM] Joe: I knoww
[26/08/2012 8:36:44 PM] Joe: personally
[26/08/2012 8:36:52 PM] Joe: I didn't even care about the money
[26/08/2012 8:36:54 PM] Joe: I don't need it
[26/08/2012 8:36:59 PM] Joe: I did it for myself
[26/08/2012 8:37:01 PM] Greg GRATS: I'd hope so
[26/08/2012 8:37:04 PM] Greg GRATS: cuz that was chump change
[26/08/2012 8:37:07 PM] Joe: I'm spending way too much time on SRL
[26/08/2012 8:37:13 PM] Joe: I'm losing so much IRL stuff

:/…

As an addition to Shay's post, this was my conversation with him today when he connected to skype for the last time.

From: Private Skype Convo
[10:35:23 AM] Joe: hey
[10:37:20 AM] P1ng: Hey mate
[10:38:03 AM] Joe: Sorry about the moeny stealing
[10:38:09 AM] Joe: I need to quit srl
[10:38:13 AM] Joe: its taking over my life
[10:38:19 AM] Joe: I spent way too much time
[10:38:21 AM] Joe: on it
[10:38:31 AM] P1ng: That's understandable
[10:39:08 AM] P1ng: I would have gone about it differently, but that's me
[10:39:17 AM] Joe: yeah
[10:39:26 AM] Joe: figured to get a small investment from my time
[10:41:55 AM] P1ng: I wish you the best with everything IRL and hope you don't take the SRL chat hate to heart. Everyone thought you weren't that guy

If you needed a break from SRL why not ask for a perm ban instead, well according to him, he wanted a payout for his "time" here. Hmm…

Im fairly sure that Joe is in the 14-17 range and doesn't live alone and would have to talk to his parents to call ISP etc. Unless his parents dont give a shit, it could be really effective.

He is 16.

He stated it in a post.

From: P1ng
As an addition to Shay's post, this was my conversation with him today when he connected to skype for the last time.

That's just blatantly selfish. Even if we assume that he deserves this 'payout', what makes him think Based Lord deserves losing 50m too?

And did he forget that the developers of SRL contribute wayyyyy much more than him but didn't receive a single cent? I always believe that the benefits of contributing to SRL are the valuable learning experiences gained as well as an unparalleled sense of satisfaction that should never be materialized…

From: Gala
I am speaking about people with static IP.

There are things called proxies and VPN's. If you don't know about those then I feel bad for you.

I'm sure he could have asked a mod he could have had a ban. That way he'd have the chance to come back in the future if he ever changed his mind by contacting a mod or something.
Still just seems like an immature thing way to go about it to me, if it is the full truth.

lol why didn't he just get a mate to change his password? now most people just have a lower opinion of him. Bullshit excuse, i just think he's scum

Wow, this is … shocking. To say the least.

I was just about to make a thread about this. I can't believe he's actually perm banned.

I helped him become an SRL Member as well, so it's sad to see he could do something like this.

In a way it's all really confusing. He's spent so much time on this site, you'd think if he wanted to leave Villau, he'd say his goodbyes and respectfully leave. You wouldn't think he only looked at SRL as a waste of time after all this site has taught him and helped him mature.


I'm very disappointed at hearing this, sad even. :(

nothing about the depths of rs society surprises me.rs is played by some heartless selfish no morals people

From: bluez
rs is played by some heartless selfish no morals fuckers

…
And that just about sums it up….
E: Forgot to mention cursing is frowned upon round here.

From: Footy
…
E: Forgot to mention cursing is frowned upon round here.

Not just frown upon, it's against the rules. Please consider this an unofficial warning Bluez. You are new here so check out the links in my sig so that you don't get into trouble.

Damn, maybe he was drunk or having a bad day or something..

From: BraK
Not just frown upon, it's against the rules.

I thought swearing was only against the rules if it was directed at someone?

Too bad. I voted yes for Joe in his members app. If he actually wanted to quit SRL (and that is a bad excuse), he should give the money back.

EDIT: Also no, it's against the rules period. ('s are at the end's of sentences)

From: pur3b100d
now most people just have a lower opinion of him. Bullshit excuse, i just think he's scum

This. That excuse is so far fetched that it isn't even funny. Not like he deserves anything, anyway.

I was quite disappointed to hear this and his reasoning behind it didn't really change my opinion on the matter.

Nobody here who deserves monetary compensation for their time spent here asks/takes it. We are members of this community because we enjoy it, not for financial gain.

Our gain by virtue of being active here is sharing personal knowledge and experiences here in return for others to do the same. I've learned an absolute tonne in my relatively short time here and appreciate that along with the many wonderful people I have met.

It's good to see you again, old friend.