SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

The Deep Web


Footy

2012-08-05 17:21:12

The deep web, also known as the dark side of the internet, is a large portion of the internet where there are no rules. There arent regulators making sure content is apropriate, or even legal. These are sites that dont show up on your average google search, and require a little extra effort to find. I've read a few articles and such on it, it seems pretty interesting, what are your thoughts? Dangerous, not dangerous? Good idea, bad idea? Experiences?

Gu3st...

2012-08-05 17:38:09

A lot of the websites on the deep web isn't dangerous at all; the only condition to make it to deep web is to not show up in google search (or other search engines). The bots works in such way that the only thing one have to do in order to not show up is to not post the website link anywhere

NKN

2012-08-05 18:45:38

From: Zyt3x
The bots works in such way that the only thing one have to do in order to not show up is to not post the website link anywhere

Lies. Some are unabled to be shown. They can't be Cached, so google and such can't show them.

smurg

2012-08-05 18:53:12

Well most require authentication or operate on a different protocol.

Usually if you don't want to be found, it's generally not the most positive thing. However, there can be privacy concerns. But I would guess that the majority of sites would be unlawful in their corresponding country (or at least not want to draw attention if it's a grey area).

Jordan155

2012-08-05 19:52:01

Probably a lot of blackhat activity going on there.

Not sure it would be very safe to even visit.

Mjordan

2012-08-05 20:03:34

Not sure about viruses and other stuff, but I would definitely browse these type of sites on a VM or a netbook that you don't care about and can reformat if something goes wrong.

From my readings, the onion network is the most popular. There's a lot of bad stuff (mainly pedophiles and child pron) that goes on. I've been reading a lot about it and my curiosity is starting to get the best of me, I think I might install all of the needed stuff to access the onion network and all of those sites just to see what all is there…

Gu3st...

2012-08-05 20:03:37

From: NKN
Lies. Some are unabled to be shown. They can't be Cached, so google and such can't show them.
Yeah, ofc, one can't i.e find The Council (The Staff Forum on this forum) on google… :rolleyes:

Footy

2012-08-05 20:14:30

From: Mjordan
Not sure about viruses and other stuff, but I would definitely browse these type of sites on a VM or a netbook that you don't care about and can reformat if something goes wrong.

From my readings, the onion network is the most popular. There's a lot of bad stuff (mainly pedophiles and child pron) that goes on. I've been reading a lot about it and my curiosity is starting to get the best of me, I think I might install all of the needed stuff to access the onion network and all of those sites just to see what all is there…


The onion network is the only one I know of, Im probably gonna try to browse it on my iphone tonight with tor for iphone, it think thats safe… Seems like a lot of interesting stuff goes on there. Let me know how your trip goes.

Recursive

2012-08-05 20:22:22

I've heard of if, I tried accessing it once, but the thought that it is a million times larger than normal internet just blew me away and I had to wait for some other time when my curiosity gets the better of me. Maybe if I need to know some piece of information that was only there, then I would definitely delve into the underbellies of the internet as we know it

litoris

2012-08-05 20:24:28

It's a cool place if you want to hire a hitman/watch cp/trade drugs. Surface internet seems to be sufficient for everything else.

From: Zyt3x
Yeah, ofc, one can't i.e find The Council (The Staff Forum on this forum) on google… :rolleyes:


ORLY?

Benny

2012-08-05 21:15:11

I think it could be dangerous, click on one back link and you could end up with a serious problem on your hands plus with the added damage of mental break down after child porn or something else ghastly appears

Gu3st...

2012-08-05 21:16:34

From: litoris
It's a cool place if you want to hire a hitman/watch cp/trade drugs. Surface internet seems to be sufficient for everything else.



ORLY?
Huh? That's not a forum… :P

Flight

2012-08-05 21:44:09

I'm waiting to see Grats' response. :p

P1ng

2012-08-05 22:03:09

My cousin came home one day and showed me a whole bunch of sites like you are describing, while it is interesting in a "I can't actually believe this is out there" kind of way to begin with, if you actually think about what is being done, it's enough to make you sick.

There were videos of people naked, blindfolded in a desert as militants walked around and randomly shot them in the head. There were others, but I think this makes my point.

Footy

2012-08-05 22:19:28

For those of you curious to check it out, get onion browser from installous. Just tried it, but I chickened out of clicking on any links… Read through the links on the hidden wiki though, sounds like a messed place.

keebll

2012-08-05 22:59:58

I was tempted one day but governments are watching and could easily trace you.. make sure your are proxy'd to hell. GL. One way to be secure is by using the TOR browser. (plus its one of the only ways to actually access .onion sites.)

litoris

2012-08-06 00:06:44

From: keebll
I was tempted one day but governments are watching and could easily trace you.. make sure your are proxy'd to hell. GL. One way to be secure is by using the TOR browser. (plus its one of the only ways to actually access .onion sites.)

Outside of the US and Europe, countries don't really care what you browse in the internet. I know that people from deep web can watch you from your webcam and such without your realizing though.

Mjordan

2012-08-06 00:20:38

From: litoris
Outside of the US and Europe, countries don't really care what you browse in the internet. I know that people from deep web can watch you from your webcam and such without your realizing though.


WTF that's really freaky. I'm taping over my webcam if I ever decide to explore.

shstiger2009

2012-08-06 00:40:04

I'm actually getting really curious about this…I need a link :p

Daniel

2012-08-06 02:06:13

As stated before, any website and/or website section that is not listed on any search engine is located within the "Deep Web". This includes having to log in to download files from various websites (e.g. RapidShare; this is where the size estimates of the "deep web" mainly come from), logging in to forums that are hidden from guests, etc. The Tor software also opens up several new websites that are inaccessible via standard means, and are classed to be on the "deep web". It's quite a loose term.

shstiger2009

2012-08-06 02:07:38

From: Daniel
As stated before, any website and/or website section that is not listed on any search engine is located within the "Deep Web". This includes having to log in to download files from various websites (e.g. RapidShare; this is where the size estimates of the "deep web" mainly come from), logging in to forums that are hidden from guests, etc. The Tor software also opens up several new websites that are inaccessible via standard means, and are classed to be on the "deep web". It's quite a loose term.


So in theory, SRL would be considered to be in this "deep web" because you have to login to download a script? Wow, crazy. Sounds evil lol.

Daniel

2012-08-06 02:11:27

From: shstiger2009
So in theory, SRL would be considered to be in this "deep web" because you have to login to download a script? Wow, crazy. Sounds evil lol.


The attached files are on the "deep web" (iirc, there are no links to attached files when browsing the forums as a guest?), yes. Just like how The Black Market section is also on the deep web, and the SRL members section, etc.

shstiger2009

2012-08-06 02:13:03

From: Daniel
The attached files are on the "deep web" (iirc, there are no links to attached files when browsing the forums as a guest?), yes. Just like how The Black Market section is also on the deep web, and the SRL members section, etc.


I'm pretty sure you can see the links as a guest, but if you try to DL it, it asks you to login. But yeah, I understand about the Black Market, SRL Members section, etc. Pretty interesting stuff.

Sex

2012-08-06 02:20:12

From: litoris


ORLY?


Lol……….

xYumz

2012-08-07 03:12:11

I've browsed on it through TOR, pretty neat. Lots of things to avoid, but if you can manage that the wealth of information is amazing. It's sort of hard to get around on it, the hiddenwiki is good but you can only go so far from that. For those curious about this, I don't recommend it if you're easily freaked out by stuff like killing and CP

Bobarkinator

2012-08-07 09:44:57

From: xYumz
if you're easily freaked out by stuff like killing and CP


And if you're not easily freaked out by stuff like killing and CP, it might be time to get off the internet.

Daniel

2012-08-07 09:51:27

From: Bobarkinator
And if you're not easily freaked out by stuff like killing and CP, it might be time to get off the internet.


:( This statement applies to me (the not easily freaked out part) :-/

Chris

2012-08-07 11:33:58

From: Daniel
:( This statement applies to me (the not easily freaked out part) :-/


Ive watched too much tv to be easily freaked out by killing, but CP… ?

Daniel

2012-08-07 11:35:55

From: Chris
Ive watched too much tv to be easily freaked out by killing, but CP… ?


Well, I think it's disgusting, yes. But I don't majorly get freaked out by it. I just avert my eyes and click the back button.

ssshhhaaa

2012-08-07 11:39:52

From: Daniel
Well, I think it's disgusting, yes. But I don't majorly get freaked out by it. I just avert my eyes and click the back button.


I've been hardened on my days when I used to go onto the random board on 4chan…all I can say if you cant stomach gore don't explore the deep web (I guess its far worse than 4chan) :/

lolaller

2012-08-10 14:07:47

I don't know, the internet has made me insensitive to many things. The deep web is nothing to be afraid of if you know what you are doing and are taking the necessary precautions. Getting in is relatively easy, only 1 download or two, but becoming untraceable is a little more time consuming. Many sites down there offer CP, weapons, and many other illegal things. They use a currency called BitCoin which is catching up to the surface people too as many people starting to now use BitCoin instead of PayPal. Many of the sites are hidden and are nearly impossible to find. Poke your head in sometime, if you don't like it, you can always just uninstall.

Its different down there

Benny

2012-08-10 14:41:55

From: xYumz
I've browsed on it through TOR, pretty neat. Lots of things to avoid, but if you can manage that the wealth of information is amazing. It's sort of hard to get around on it, the hiddenwiki is good but you can only go so far from that. For those curious about this, I don't recommend it if you're easily freaked out by stuff like killing and CP


:/ CP isn't nice at all:duh:

NKN

2012-08-10 15:06:33

It's not a bad place at all. It's all hype. You'll be perfectly fine if you don't click every link you see.

Know what you're about to click before you click it, and you'll be fine.
I went on the Hidden Wiki without Tor once and I'm fine. :3
(That was fun, wasn't it guys?)

Jos3ph

2012-08-10 15:20:18

I've looked into it before; there are some crazy stuff you can find in the deep web.

Gala

2012-08-10 15:35:26

Maybe one should visit /b and if there is still need for more, go to onion network.
Btw, deep web is also everything that is not static, like every database. The website of any library is deep web, for example. Google won't try to index such databases (most are protected with captchas anyways)

NKN

2012-08-10 15:53:34

Anything not in Bing Or Google, are in the deep web, so really, the deep web isn't that bad.

If it requires a password/username to use the website, it's technically in the deep web, iirc

lolaller

2012-08-10 18:10:43

Meh, the deepweb has some pretty neat stuff but the wiki doesnt have any links to it at all, nor does the google equivalent of a deepweb search browser.

and NKN, how did you manage to get to the hidden wiki without a tor browser?
www.kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion
this link will not work without it

Grihmm

2012-08-11 19:09:34

:/ You guys get scared easily. It's just the internets.

Gala

2012-08-12 06:32:21

From: lolaller
Meh, the deepweb has some pretty neat stuff but the wiki doesnt have any links to it at all, nor does the google equivalent of a deepweb search browser.

and NKN, how did you manage to get to the hidden wiki without a tor browser?
www.kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion
this link will not work without it


There are probably some mirrors you can access via the standard protocol.

exilednoob

2012-08-12 11:07:57

A lot of the sites are for child predators, sex traffickers, black market weapons, killing/murder/rape videos so… no thanks, i'll stick with the good old regular internet. forget that trash

Gala

2012-08-12 11:33:16

From: exilednoob
A lot of the sites are for child predators, sex traffickers, black market weapons, killing/murder/rape videos so… no thanks, i'll stick with the good old regular internet. forget that trash


Sounds like you are talking about the onion network. Onion network ≠ Deep Web.

gpianist

2012-08-22 10:16:11

guys guys chill!!! I won't go as far as to say that deepweb is no different from clearweb, but basically a huge part of the deepweb is by nature inaccessible to cacheing/google/whatever else. Its just like clearweb with CP drugs. And kinda hard to navigate. so chill :P

P1ng

2012-09-06 10:00:11

Sorry about the partial grave-dig. I just read this article and deemed it quite relevant to this topic and thought that some of you might be interested in a read :)

http://yourfriendshouse.com/2012/brb-buying-drugs-online-lol/

Gala

2012-09-06 10:18:05

Silk road is one of the more innocent part. Why not hire a hitman? :)

litoris

2012-09-06 10:32:58

From: Gala
Silk road is one of the more innocent part. Why not hire a hitman? :)


Hiring hitmen is for kids, try hiring slaves.

Gala

2012-09-06 10:48:40

From: litoris
Hiring hitmen is for kids, try hiring slaves.


Link pls :)

P1ng

2012-09-06 10:49:02

What have you guys got against humanity? I just want acid delivered to my letterbox :P

riwu

2012-09-06 10:49:19

From: litoris
Outside of the US and Europe, countries don't really care what you browse in the internet. I know that people from deep web can watch you from your webcam and such without your realizing though.

How can they take control of your webcam? Unless you stupidly allow some plugin or malware to be downloaded.
From: shstiger2009
I'm actually getting really curious about this…I need a link :p

Same here. Pornography and violence are commonplace nowadays, what worse can be hiding off there? :rolleyes:

Gala

2012-09-06 10:51:04

From: riwu

Same here. Pornography and violence are commonplace nowadays, what worse can be hiding off there? :rolleyes:


Post again after browsing further than hidden wiki.

The Killer

2012-09-06 12:27:48

From: litoris
Outside of the US and Europe, countries don't really care what you browse in the internet. I know that people from deep web can watch you from your webcam and such without your realizing though.


Anyone could access your webcam if they were fairly skilled in computers and knew your ports and maybe something else too :P basically you wouldn't have to be on some dodgy website

Stray Bullets

2012-09-06 14:01:02

There's a lot of interesting stuff out there in .onionland, but unfortunately, there's also a lot of stuff you probably don't want anything to do with.

TorDir is a decent starting point for those looking to check it out.

Gala

2012-09-06 14:26:15

From: The Killer
Anyone could access your webcam if they were fairly skilled in computers and knew your ports and maybe something else too :P basically you wouldn't have to be on some dodgy website


I doubt it, explain pls.

TehNeonFishy

2012-09-06 18:47:59

If there anything actually good on this? The only things I can think this is used for is child porn and other general crime related topics. >.<

print

2012-09-06 19:05:49

you know your in the deep web when someone getting there skull crushed

grats

2012-09-06 19:22:53

From: Zyt3x
A lot of the websites on the deep web isn't dangerous at all; the only condition to make it to deep web is to not show up in google search (or other search engines). The bots works in such way that the only thing one have to do in order to not show up is to not post the website link anywhere


No.. the reason they don't show up is TOR uses its own DNS.. the intranet for tor just doesn't allow google to go snooping around there because google doesn't care enough to add some of its bots to tor.

TOR is extremely boring (what you call the deep web) and there's almost nothing interesting down there except the tor library and that phpbb hacking site

that being said, there are plenty of search engines on tor, that use spiders to go around on pages etc


From: NKN
Lies. Some are unabled to be shown. They can't be Cached, so google and such can't show them.


uhh no? you can cache any page that you can see… there's no magical fairy that blocks you from grabbing source code.


for example when connected to my DNS:
greg.grats = greggrats.com
jewels.james = jbruckner.com/jewel-warrior
and we ain't cool enough to have anymore


From: Footy
For those of you curious to check it out, get onion browser from installous. Just tried it, but I chickened out of clicking on any links… Read through the links on the hidden wiki though, sounds like a messed place.


tor project uses firefox alpha (aurora) to connect, I wouldn't really trust anything else.. you're more likely to get a virus installing tor software than browsing tor.

From: Footy
The onion network is the only one I know of, Im probably gonna try to browse it on my iphone tonight with tor for iphone, it think thats safe… Seems like a lot of interesting stuff goes on there. Let me know how your trip goes.


Just to clarify, you're 100 times more likely to get a virus on the clearweb.. especially since 99% of tor sites don't even run basic scripts let alone complex.


From: Daniel
Well, I think it's disgusting, yes. But I don't majorly get freaked out by it. I just avert my eyes and click the back button.


This.. the idea of tor is cool, the crap it's infested with makes it as fun as browsing the internet in a dumpster.




but again, just to say it again, the only thing on tor that is more interesting than watching grass grow is the tor library.

Jakkle

2012-09-07 12:55:03

There is alot of great stuff on the deep web. Your all looking at Hidden wiki, right ? Well think about it, that site was made for hidden(bad thing) not the good stuff thats out there. There are many search engines for science on the deep web and a lot of other factual stuff thats good to know. Look for the good stuff and you shall find :p

TehNeonFishy

2012-09-07 14:55:22

From: Jakkle
There is alot of great stuff on the deep web. Your all looking at Hidden wiki, right ? Well think about it, that site was made for hidden(bad thing) not the good stuff thats out there. There are many search engines for science on the deep web and a lot of other factual stuff thats good to know. Look for the good stuff and you shall find :p


Is there anything decent on the Hidden wiki? Anything that is actually worth reading into? >.<

The Killer

2012-09-07 16:28:03

From: Gala
I doubt it, explain pls.


umm idk how exactly, my computer pro cousin told me he could do it if i had a open port and he would maybe need my ip. but im not sure if it was a open port he needed :s. a custom keylogger/rat could do it too easily

grats

2012-09-07 19:50:49

From: TehNeonFishy
Is there anything decent on the Hidden wiki? Anything that is actually worth reading into? >.<


Not really, you can find everything in abundance on the clear web..
Tor Library is only collection that you won't find anything like that on the clear web