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What makes it so hard?


KeepBotting

2012-08-03 06:32:33

Dungeoneering scripts. Why can't we do it? I've been thinking over the theory in my head for quite some time, and I think I could do it.

masterBB

2012-08-03 06:33:21

I know I can do it. But it would take so much time…

KeepBotting

2012-08-03 06:33:44

From: masterBB
I know I can do it. But it would take so much time…
I'm going to do it.

Benny

2012-08-03 06:34:40

The multitude of colors and puzzles would take about a year to script it and then Jagex have a funny way of changing it.. :/ I mean its plausible but time consuming

KeepBotting

2012-08-03 06:35:39

From: -Benny
The multitude of colors and puzzles would take about a year to script it and then Jagex have a funny way of changing it.. :/ I mean its plausible but time consuming
What about complexity 1? or 2 or 3?

Benny

2012-08-03 06:42:07

Just take a look in a dungeon now and see how many colors are similar. I know you can use uptext and various other methods but it's hard.

KeepBotting

2012-08-03 06:44:06

From: -Benny
Just take a look in a dungeon now and see how many colors are similar. I know you can use uptext and various other methods but it's hard.
I've already found a way around that obstacle.

P1ng

2012-08-03 06:53:36

Have a look at WeDungeon a project by GeDropped.

There is also a project going on in SRL Members + but I would assume you don't have access to that.

No doubt it is do-able, but it is a very big and time consuming project which is why most people are avoiding embarking on a venture like this.
If you feel you have the time and/or the ability then I'd recommend you join in with other people doing the same.

Element17

2012-08-03 07:35:24

From: KeepBotting
I've already found a way around that obstacle.


And how did you do that?

Austin

2012-08-03 08:00:15

The main reason that comes to my mind is: Randomization

No two dungeons are the same so the script would have to be prepared for basically anything. Doing one set of floors (frozen, abandoned, furnished) would probably be hard enough, but since most of the floors change dramatically (color-wise), it would be even harder to have all of them. All the puzzle rooms, different creatures, items, keys, key doors (mapping where they are), the bosses (some you have to prepare for and others you need special tactics) and doing them without dieing a ton of times, would take a lot of work :)

That's just my opinion on why it hasn't been done yet, I'm not that good of a scripter yet, so I could be over (or under) dramatizing it, but I think it's pretty clear why one hasn't been made yet. It takes time, A LOT of time.

Flight

2012-08-03 08:18:03

Check out this thread, you might be interested:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84321

Jos3ph

2012-08-03 08:19:49

I'd give you credit for trying but Jagex seems to change stuff a lot easier then your able to script so you may spend a ton of time coding to then have to re-do alot, unless a bunch of people worked together and it removed a ton of the coding.

Olly

2012-08-03 08:42:36

Best bet is to wait for a open gl/direct x plugin, that will make things alot more reliable/faster/quicker :)

Joe

2012-08-03 10:45:54

From: P1ng

There is also a project going on in SRL Members + but I would assume you don't have access to that.


I'm pretty sure it has come to a screeching halt? Zmon has been away for a long time and I'm pretty sure everyone else has jsut about given up…

EDIT: KeepBotting, you should DEFINITELY join WeDungeon. You would be a wonderful member to that group and together you would have it done in no time.

KeepBotting

2012-08-03 12:12:22

From: P1ng
Have a look at WeDungeon a project by GeDropped.

There is also a project going on in SRL Members + but I would assume you don't have access to that.

No doubt it is do-able, but it is a very big and time consuming project which is why most people are avoiding embarking on a venture like this.
If you feel you have the time and/or the ability then I'd recommend you join in with other people doing the same.
I'll take a look at that when I'm not on LogMeIn at work, thanks.

Oh, I definately have the time. BRING IT THE PHUCK ON.

From: 14578
And how did you do that?
I have my ways.

From: Austin
The main reason that comes to my mind is: Randomization

No two dungeons are the same so the script would have to be prepared for basically anything. Doing one set of floors (frozen, abandoned, furnished) would probably be hard enough, but since most of the floors change dramatically (color-wise), it would be even harder to have all of them. All the puzzle rooms, different creatures, items, keys, key doors (mapping where they are), the bosses (some you have to prepare for and others you need special tactics) and doing them without dieing a ton of times, would take a lot of work :)

That's just my opinion on why it hasn't been done yet, I'm not that good of a scripter yet, so I could be over (or under) dramatizing it, but I think it's pretty clear why one hasn't been made yet. It takes time, A LOT of time.
I think this is the first real answer Ive gotten, gj! :D and it is totally correct.

From: Flight
Check out this thread, you might be interested:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84321
I will–I'm on LMI at the moment.

From: po2n star
I'd give you credit for trying but Jagex seems to change stuff a lot easier then your able to script so you may spend a ton of time coding to then have to re-do alot, unless a bunch of people worked together and it removed a ton of the coding.
Not completely correct. There are ways to make scripts break-proof (or at least break-resistant).

From: Ollybest
Best bet is to wait for a open gl/direct x plugin, that will make things alot more reliable/faster/quicker :)
Elaborate please. Exactly how will that help us?

From: Joe
I'm pretty sure it has come to a screeching halt? Zmon has been away for a long time and I'm pretty sure everyone else has jsut about given up…

EDIT: KeepBotting, you should DEFINITELY join WeDungeon. You would be a wonderful member to that group and together you would have it done in no time.
I'll think about it :P I prefer to work alone though.

Getdropped

2012-08-03 21:01:51

From: KeepBotting
I'll take a look at that when I'm not on LogMeIn at work, thanks.

Oh, I definately have the time. BRING IT THE PHUCK ON.

I have my ways.

I think this is the first real answer Ive gotten, gj! :D and it is totally correct.

I will–I'm on LMI at the moment.

Not completely correct. There are ways to make scripts break-proof (or at least break-resistant).

Elaborate please. Exactly how will that help us?

I'll think about it :P I prefer to work alone though.

Hey there you might have had time to take a look at my project WeDungeon and well to be honest coding this is all I have done this week …. about 5-12 hours per day this week…. it is a real pain but I see hope in the furture of my script and it is coming along well however if you do plan to making this GL to you I its a real brain test to solve all the issues but my script is about 85+% done for a class 1 rusher. Honestly the chance of there being a script that can do class 6 is .001% because honestly the time it would take to do that would be roughtly 1000+ days but it would be more like infinaty because once you get something working jagex will update and change something messing up the script. I plan on the release date to be sometime next week hopefully if things go well. But let me tell you it is a true pain in my *** :p

Rezozo

2012-08-03 21:54:35

GL, is all I could say before KeepBotting ran towards his impending doom known as DUNGEONEERING!

JK, yea you should totally join WebDungeon!

KeepBotting

2012-08-03 21:55:29

From: JoeyGupta
GL, is all I could say before KeepBotting ran towards his impending doom known as DUNGEONEERING!

JK, yea you should totally join WebDungeon!
I beg to differ, my doom has been impending for some time now :sasmokin: but I've been able to outrun it so far.

Getdropped

2012-08-03 23:26:49

From: JoeyGupta
GL, is all I could say before KeepBotting ran towards his impending doom known as DUNGEONEERING!

JK, yea you should totally join WebDungeon!


…. WeDungeon not We"b"Dungeon…… but honestly its not like people are "joining" it is basically me and I just post with questions and ideas that I plan to add to it lol ;)

Rezozo

2012-08-04 14:37:30

From: Getdropped
…. WeDungeon not We"b"Dungeon…… but honestly its not like people are "joining" it is basically me and I just post with questions and ideas that I plan to add to it lol ;)

My bad :P
From: KeepBotting
I beg to differ, my doom has been impending for some time now :sasmokin: but I've been able to outrun it so far.

Emphasis on 'So Far' :)

GL to you 2 anyway :-)

KeepBotting

2012-08-04 20:59:30

From: JoeyGupta
My bad :P

Emphasis on 'So Far' :)

GL to you 2 anyway :-)
Lmao thanks.