SRL Archive - NOTA

*Purpose of thread: help in suggesting equal performance, lower value parts / downgrading unnecessary specs/ overall build optimization

took out the first build, as it was horrible!

Used http://www.pugetsystems.com/configure.php

TTL Cost (site builder) := —–
TTL Cost (self ordering+building) := less, but not figured out yet

• I'm pretty sure (I think) that is all compatible;
• Don't know why I'd order an OS… when there's free OS (I can even get free windows os from multiple people)
• The CPU cooling concerns me, as it looks like a fly try to move boulder… :s
• I really want the CPU/RAM over anything (downgrading others as long as preformance maintains)
• I also know how to order factory direct, but builder websites help me know what works where (again I feel like they dump the overpriced brand names on you >.>).

What do you need 64 gb of ram for? O.o

I'd increase that power supply wattage…

From: Nebula
What do you need 64 gb of ram for? O.o

I'd increase that power supply wattage…

poor built (but fun) flash games, exploring the length of tumblr image feeds (I liked one posted on these forums kitties & _itties, but didn't get to the end :/ )

I found a laptop too (it's not available to public) that has a 128g ram, now that seems over the top :p

So you're getting a $500 graphics card to play flash games(Lmao)? A 300gb ssd isn't needed… get like a 16gb ssd + a 500gb hdd. 8gb ram will be fine for you. If you find (somehow) you need more ram, you could always order another 8 later. Get like an i5-2500(k)… not a $1000 processor that you won't even be fully using.

Save yourself 3 grand and take my advice.

Okay thanks for the advice; also, what type of stuff uses $1k processors? (I know playing rs won't take up near that much, but I get lost why those processors are listed for computer builds, like what would use that expensive processor to its full use?)

From: Le Jingle
Okay thanks for the advice; also, what type of stuff uses $1k processors? (I know playing rs won't take up near that much, but I get lost why those processors are listed for computer builds, like what would use that expensive processor to its full use?)

Honestly the only thing I can think of would be a server. Even resource intense tasks such as a bot farm could be done much more cost efficiently with an i7-2700k. With the processor price difference, you could literally build a second computer.

Just look at the benchmarks:

350% price increase for a 60% performance increase… NOT worth it.

Oh wow, that's a really helpful explanation! I didn't know their benchmarks, let alone how to measure them like you did in the photo. Also makes sense that a server would need the higher/expensive cpu ^.^
Thanks for teaching me something!! :>

I build my computer myself. Ordered every part from the cheapest site.
Paid something like 500€, that is 616$.

AND I AM LOVING IT.

Putting everything together is fun too :)

What you must know if you are going to use this for botting is to make a power efficient computer. You don't wanna spend 1000$ every year for letting your computer bot 24/7.
SSD is power efficient, make sure you have a good cooler, i think that also adds to power efficiency.

From: fre
I build my computer myself. Ordered every part from the cheapest site.
Paid something like 500€, that is 616$.

AND I AM LOVING IT.

Putting everything together is fun too :)

What you must know if you are going to use this for botting is to make a power efficient computer. You don't wanna spend 1000$ every year for letting your computer bot 24/7.
SSD is power efficient, make sure you have a good cooler, i think that also adds to power efficiency.

Best way to have a power efficient computer is to have a power efficient power supply. Getting a SSD over an HDD just for power reasons is not smart.

Drop the ram only really need 16gb, Upgrade power supply 1200watts, Water Cooling is way quite Corsair H100 is what I use, i7 3770k is all you really need lmao you buying a 3960X is like taking a shit on a Aston Martin.

Edit: The reason I say this because unless your running a 30person server for wow or mabey doing some video processing or maybe bio chemistry rendering reactions in real time, you wont need to use that processor, besides overclocking is a pain in the ass compared to the 3770k. What you really need to think about when you go that high (price wise) is noise. Now I built my computer using an amd fx 8150 (OC to 5.2ghz), Two gigabyte 7870's, 16gb, of ram, 1.2tb ssd pci express hardrive, antec H2O 920 water cooling, 1200watt powersupply, and the antec twelve hundred case. This mother was only 1.5k, and could probable do more than what you need.

How's this one?:

case; ($130)

Thermaltake VN300M1W2N Chaser MK-I Full Tower Gaming Case - ATX, Micro ATX, 4x Ext 5.25", 6x Int 3.5", 2x 200mm Fans, 1x 140mm Fan, 2x USB 3.0 Ports, 2x USB 2.o Ports, 1x eSATA Port, Colorshift Fans

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=419876&Sku=T925-3082

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motherboard; ($245)

Intel BOXDZ77GA-70K Intel Extreme Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel Z77 Express, 1600MHz DDR3, SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 10-CH Audio, 2x Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX Ready

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2372861&CatId=6976

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graphics card; ($140)

EVGA 02G-P3-1559-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card - 2GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), Dual DVI, Mini-HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, SLI Ready, Plus Photoshop Elements 10 Promo

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=356682&Sku=E145-0554

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power supply; ($70)

Thermaltake W0382RU Modular Power Supply - 750 Watt, 140mm Fan, 80 Plus Bronze, Active PFC

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=419877&Sku=T925-3083

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memory; ($350)

Patriot Viper 3 Intel Extreme Masters PVI332G186C0QK 32GB Limited Edition Memory Kit - 4 x 8GB, PC3-15000, 1866MHz, 10-11-10-30, 1.5V

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3468759&CatId=4534

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ssd; (primary) ($130)

Intel SSDSC2CW120A310 520 Series Solid State Drive - 120GB, SATA III (6Gb/s), 2.5", up to 550MB/s Read, up to 500MB/s Write, OEM

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1938365&CatId=5300

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hhd; (secondary) ($90)

Seagate ST9500423AS Momentus 2.5" 500GB Hard Drive - 7200RPM, SATA 3Gb/s HD

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2159694&CatId=2459

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processor; ($340)

Intel Core i7-3770K BX80667i73770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2372989&Sku=I69-3770K

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Fan; ($100)

Intel BXRTS2011LC High Performance Liquid Cooler - 120mm Fan, 2200 RPM Max, 74 CMF, 35dBA Max, 150mm Radiator, LGA2011, LGA1155

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1554275&Sku=I69-LIQUID

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TTL $1,595

No idea if the parts are all compatible :x
Seems like I didn't miss any important parts, no?

64gb ram is overkill… 8gb is fine if you must 16 gb also works. that processor oh my god… i have a 990x just because i got it second hand. haha. i dont use it though :p i sold that and use my i7-870. uhm the 7970 is also overkill get a 6970 that will run everything you listed just fine, i play mw2 on ultra everything at 60 fps while recording (i lock it at 60, i may be able to go higher). my friend has a gtx 690 and its a beast but un needed haha. hope this helps!

Meh ddr3 ram is cheap, no point in limiting yourself to only 8gb… get at least 16gb. 32gb is great, that's what I go. (needed that much to bot diablo 3 proprely)
The video card is a bit weak if you compare it to the rest of the build.

Also if you are going to upgrade your video card, you should maybe consider getting a 1000w power supply so you've got some margin. Overtime, a power supply will produce less and less power.
Happened to me a few years ago. My computer worked fine for years, then I'd get blue screen. At first I though it was the graphics card, but in fact it was the powersupply that wasn't able to give enough juice to the graphics card.

$100 for a fan that you won't need because you don't sound like you'll be doing extreme stuff with your computer?. A $20-30 one will suffice. Again with that expensive processor.. Also SSDs are a waste unless you turn on your computer 100 times/day or do stuff with huge programs that take forever to load.

What will you be doing with your computer? Based on what your needs are I could tell you what to get.

o forgot a monitor

+$130
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6256830&CatId=4420

Acer G235hAbd 23" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 1080p, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1000:1 Native, 80000:1 Dynamic, 5ms, VGA, DVI

I'll most likely use it for school/work/botting/high memory flash games (^.^)/fps games.

E: oh thanks Eska for the 2nd/3rd gen incompatibility.

From: Le Jingle

E: oh thanks Eska for the 2nd/3rd gen incompatibility.

No no no, it IS compatible, they just didn't state it in the specs (they state it in the description of the motherboard)

From: Nebula
$100 for a fan that you won't need because you don't sound like you'll be doing extreme stuff with your computer?. A $20-30 one will suffice. Again with that expensive processor.. Also SSDs are a waste unless you turn on your computer 100 times/day or do stuff with huge programs that take forever to load.

What will you be doing with your computer? Based on what your needs are I could tell you what to get.

If he wants to overclock, he's going to go through his CPU in a a couple years if he use a crappy 20$ fan. At that price you might as well keep the shit stock fan.


Edit: Forgot I was the last poster. Sorry for double post.

From: eska
If he wants to overclock, he's going to go through his CPU in a a couple years if he use a crappy 20$ fan. At that price you might as well keep the shit stock fan.


Edit: Forgot I was the last poster. Sorry for double post.

I don't think flash games/running a few bots requires overclocking…

Is that nearly 5,000 USD?

I can run any game on mine and it cost like right at $1,000 USD
Unless you are just dead set to spend that much cash I would consider changing your build.

Well the first post was a crap build by me, which was nearly $5000 usd

But I posted further down, of a new build, roughly $1600, which should suffice for all my needs, I still have to work on compatibilty though, I saw what eska meant (they are compatible) but I'm looking for a little increase in power supply, and more opinions too :)

Ty

So! Given my current desired build (shown below in code brackets), I have several follow up questions (if you can answer even one, that'd be cool!)

 Monitor - $180
ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor Built-in Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236049

Motherboard - $250
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131821

Power Supply - $87
SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817151096

Primary - SSD - $140
Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW120A3K5 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820167093

Secondary - HHD - $110
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136533

Case - $190
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

CPU Cooler - $50
XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler with Stealth Aerospace Industry Thermal conductive ceramic coating ALL intel AMD IVY BRIDGE compatible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835233029

Case Fan - $10
XIGMATEK XLF-F1253 4 white LED Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835233015

Video Card - $270
EVGA GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 012-P3-1570-AR Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814130593

Memory - $230
Patriot Viper 3 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory Model PV332G186C0QK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220695

Processor - $340
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

TTL ~ $1,857

This build - I can install Windows 7 Ult. and then when it asks if I want to partition, I can do a Linux/Ubuntu partition too?

With the partition question mentioned above, can I partition both Operating Systems (which are Windows/Linux) to the SSD (which is my computers main hard drive), and then use the HHD drive (the secondary drive) to help both partitions (for example - speed up performance, or storing data)?

If I chose to get a smaller amount of RAM (Lets say 8gb), and install Windows 7 Ult. + Ubuntu Linux on to the operating system now, I can still switch out the RAM to higher (let's say 32gb) later? (I ask because Win 7 Prof/Ult can handle 16gb +, but Win 7 home prem can't)? - I guess a good question to accompany this is: Does Linux support me from the 8gb RAM now, then the 32gb RAM later? or would the transition cause problems?

Cheers,
Lj

Increasing your ram in the future shouldn't cause any OS problems. And unless you plan on running a bot farm, you will probably never need more than 8gb ram anyways.

Again with the SSD… you don't need a 120gb one. You don't even need one to begin with, it just has a faster transfer rate than a HDD. If you must get one, get a 32gb SSD. Enough for your OS, and any major programs you use that take a bit to load. There's no point in a 120gb SSD. Don't feel like explaining further- tl;dr get a 32gb SSD and only use it for your OS + big programs.


Oh and the case you plan on getting. Don't get it. You don't need a $200 case when a $50 case such as the haf 912 will fit everything perfectly well while still having good air flow. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Oh and again for like the third time- I don't think you need that powerful of a graphics card + processor for tumblr, flash games, and a few smarts..

From: Nebula
What do you need 64 gb of ram for? O.o

I'd increase that power supply wattage…

I wouldn't.

From: Le Jingle
How's this one?:

case; ($130)

Thermaltake VN300M1W2N Chaser MK-I Full Tower Gaming Case - ATX, Micro ATX, 4x Ext 5.25", 6x Int 3.5", 2x 200mm Fans, 1x 140mm Fan, 2x USB 3.0 Ports, 2x USB 2.o Ports, 1x eSATA Port, Colorshift Fans

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=419876&Sku=T925-3082

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motherboard; ($245)

Intel BOXDZ77GA-70K Intel Extreme Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel Z77 Express, 1600MHz DDR3, SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 10-CH Audio, 2x Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX Ready

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2372861&CatId=6976

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graphics card; ($140)

EVGA 02G-P3-1559-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card - 2GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), Dual DVI, Mini-HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, SLI Ready, Plus Photoshop Elements 10 Promo

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=356682&Sku=E145-0554

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power supply; ($70)

Thermaltake W0382RU Modular Power Supply - 750 Watt, 140mm Fan, 80 Plus Bronze, Active PFC

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=419877&Sku=T925-3083

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memory; ($350)

Patriot Viper 3 Intel Extreme Masters PVI332G186C0QK 32GB Limited Edition Memory Kit - 4 x 8GB, PC3-15000, 1866MHz, 10-11-10-30, 1.5V

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3468759&CatId=4534

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ssd; (primary) ($130)

Intel SSDSC2CW120A310 520 Series Solid State Drive - 120GB, SATA III (6Gb/s), 2.5", up to 550MB/s Read, up to 500MB/s Write, OEM

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1938365&CatId=5300

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hhd; (secondary) ($90)

Seagate ST9500423AS Momentus 2.5" 500GB Hard Drive - 7200RPM, SATA 3Gb/s HD

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2159694&CatId=2459

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processor; ($340)

Intel Core i7-3770K BX80667i73770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2372989&Sku=I69-3770K

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Fan; ($100)

Intel BXRTS2011LC High Performance Liquid Cooler - 120mm Fan, 2200 RPM Max, 74 CMF, 35dBA Max, 150mm Radiator, LGA2011, LGA1155

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1554275&Sku=I69-LIQUID

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TTL $1,595

No idea if the parts are all compatible :x
Seems like I didn't miss any important parts, no?

pretty bad power supply, you should build the system yourself.. it's far easier than any lego set is and I'm sure you're capable of building legos.. also most people have fun building it.

From: Le Jingle
So! Given my current desired build (shown below in code brackets), I have several follow up questions (if you can answer even one, that'd be cool!)

 Monitor - $180
ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor Built-in Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236049

Motherboard - $250
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131821

Power Supply - $87
SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817151096

Primary - SSD - $140
Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW120A3K5 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820167093

Secondary - HHD - $110
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136533

Case - $190
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

CPU Cooler - $50
XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler with Stealth Aerospace Industry Thermal conductive ceramic coating ALL intel AMD IVY BRIDGE compatible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835233029

Case Fan - $10
XIGMATEK XLF-F1253 4 white LED Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835233015

Video Card - $270
EVGA GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 012-P3-1570-AR Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814130593

Memory - $230
Patriot Viper 3 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory Model PV332G186C0QK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220695

Processor - $340
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

TTL ~ $1,857

This build - I can install Windows 7 Ult. and then when it asks if I want to partition, I can do a Linux/Ubuntu partition too?

With the partition question mentioned above, can I partition both Operating Systems (which are Windows/Linux) to the SSD (which is my computers main hard drive), and then use the HHD drive (the secondary drive) to help both partitions (for example - speed up performance, or storing data)?

If I chose to get a smaller amount of RAM (Lets say 8gb), and install Windows 7 Ult. + Ubuntu Linux on to the operating system now, I can still switch out the RAM to higher (let's say 32gb) later? (I ask because Win 7 Prof/Ult can handle 16gb +, but Win 7 home prem can't)? - I guess a good question to accompany this is: Does Linux support me from the 8gb RAM now, then the 32gb RAM later? or would the transition cause problems?

Cheers,
Lj

Linux will support up to like 1024GB of ram.. or something insane.. so you have nothing to worry about there.. microsoft puts ram caps because they're greedy, so get whatever OS supports the 32GB you want to maybe go to in the future, and you won't have ot worry about it (can switch it out anytime.. but powerdown the machine first)

For your graphics card, you'd get a identical performance & better overclock with a 7850 instead of an nvidia, unless you're going nvidia for some specific reason.. also it uses about half the wattage… also it's a bit cheaper

and that's a shitload of money on a board if you're not overclocking, case is also way overkill

also I wouldn't pay extra for an intel SSD that is using a sandforce controller.

Why are you getting an i7? You don't need it, get a 2.6 GHz i5 and you won't have any problems. I don't think you know how to overclock/need it either. Screw the SSD, and don't get more than 16 gigs of RAM because that's just a waste of money. I don't know much about power supplies so got no advice on that.
You can install Win7, and then load your linux distro from a live CD, and that will let you shrink the windows partition and create enough space for linux.
PS: SSD= Solid state drive, HDD= Hard disk drive, HHD=nothing

Oh okay. Wow.

I'm just starting to understand on your comment Neb, about the SSD. I'm seeing that I don't need to waste so much money on them, and read/write speed is already dynamite good with the SSD 32gb, so 120gb would be overkill. (Also noticed that my HHD is already pretty decent, and since I'd get a HHD secondary drive, it won't matter space - wise) So I'll probably end up doing that.

The case to was a little 'iffy' for me.. I don't think I much care about the looks, as opposed to the air flow.. Taking the stuff apart isn't a concern either (a possible selling feature I guess they throw into cases)

So Linux is crazy for RAM, guess that's a good thing :) Lol @ Microsoft, and good to know I can swap later down the road.

The graphics card suggestion is interesting, will definitely check that out.
Edit ^ : There's a heck lot of 7850's lol, but the first result looked more expensive but more powerful. ( link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150609 ) - All I did was search for 7850, so maybe a lower cost one would be better?

I'm positive I can get stuff overclocked, but I'll look more into that after I get the build. Plus the case is overkill I now see.

Don't know what the SSD sandforce thing is, but I'll look into that as it sounds interesting.
Edit ^: Yes, I have found a little out about it now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SandForce#Issues It appears from the wiki, as well as certain forums, that it's not the best firmware, afaik / from what I've read.

THANKS!
It really does mean a lot to me, hearing the feedback, as even the most common knowledge to someone else, is news to me (and I love learning too so it's that much better)! I'll do some more research and try to post back with the findings!

Oh and EDIT: Thanks litoris for the reply;
^ lol, my bad, I gotcha on the SSD/HHD, typo'd probably for HHD/HDD. Also, I'll probably overkill the SSD just for future endeavors. The partition information too, is reassuring. I also updated this with a link I found on the SSD's, so I'll probably cop out of the intel SSD, and lower to a smaller gb and different brand. But I do want the experience of a SSD

There are 4 main controllers for SSD's to answer you:
intel
sandforce

other two are shit

sandforce is great, intel is extremely good.. these are the controllers not the brand.. any brand can have any controller, if it's not sandforce or intel it's probably pretty crappy or will crap out a lot faster / won't have good performance

sandforce is what I get because it is a much better buy, normally intel SSD's are more price:GB because they have their intel controller, that one doesn't.. so I wouldn't pay that price for 120GB..

also not sure what litoris is talking about, a stock 2.6ghz would only fit into the laptop CPU category

if you don't neeeeed hyper threading
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
is an amazing processor

if you really want it (which botting wise you'd probably get a good bit of more performance) I would go with either the one you picked out, or a 2600k.. yours is a bit better. That is if you want that power, if you're gaming… and doing the flash stuff you said in OP, you can get good performance on a machine 1/4th this power, so you'd be fine with a i5 2500k (the one I linked)


also depending on what you do with flash, you might need that 32GB.. however if you get by on lets say 4GB now, I doubt you'll be going over 16GB anytime soon, and that would be a good place for you to stop at, for now..
I would do 2x4GB sticks (8GB total) and if you go high on that, get 2x4GB sticks again (same ones) in a few months.. that'll give you the 16GB.. and in a few years or so.. lets say you start to be getting good at your development or whatever you're doing, and flash eats up that 16GB.. then it's time for 4x8GB sticks (32gb total) and sell those 4x4GB you got years ago, or whatever

Just posting what my final build will probably look like.. I'm going to double check the power with all the stuffs against the psu, Make sure the case can hold it all, and then I think I'm done.

Gone over it and revised it down quite a few dollars, plus morphed in some suggested changes too:

Part = Motherboard
Price = $177
Name = MSI Z77A-GD65 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130643

Part = Monitor
Price = $180
Name = ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor Built-in Speakers
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236049

Part = Power Supply
Price = $87
Name = SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W Power Supply
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817151096

Part = Processor
Price = $340
Name = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
Link = Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K

Part = CPU Cooler/Fan
Price = $50
Name = XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler with Stealth Aerospace Industry Thermal conductive ceramic coating ALL intel AMD IVY BRIDGE compatible
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835233029

Part = Case Fan
Price = $10
Name = XIGMATEK XLF-F1253 4 white LED Case Fan
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835233015

Part = SSD (Primary drive)
Price = $100
Name = Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW060A3K5 2.5" 60GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167092

Part = HDD (Secondary drive)
Price = $110
Name = Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136533

Part = Case
Price = $60
Name = COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&Tpk=N82E16811119233

Part = Video/Graphics Card
Price = $240
Name = XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150609

Part = Memory
Price = $75
Name = G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-16GBXL
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231486

Part = CD Drive
Price = $20
Name = ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
Link = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

[---] TTL = $1,449.00 USD [---]

Thanks all for the help, this will be a fun experiment! >:-)

You said your 570 fermi was $270 in the post, so I was just going by that price saying a 7850 would be cheaper, the one you linked is above stock clock (which means they overclocked it a bit for you, and it doesn't void warranty) so you'd get a little better performance out of it.. XFX is a pretty good video card company, they're liked mostly for their lifetime warranties but always have done a decent job at video cards too (they're not known for breaking after a week, which is always good)

Looks like a pretty good build, you'll definitely like it :P
these days (I saw you weren't sure earlier) things are very compatible, the main things to look out for is if your CPU & motherboard have the same socket, if the chipset is compatible (almost always, if socket is same, yes) and if ram is the correct kind (if you're getting decent parts, 99% of it is ddr3, and you have to go out of your way to pick the wrong ram) and your card is pcie slot (again, 99%) all your stuff looks good, shouldn't have any problems

The build on post #27 looks alright to me. Just don't get the $10 case fan since the haf912 comes with 2 fans, plus the heatsink/fan you chose comes with a free 140mm fan. So you'll have 3 case fans and a heatsink+fan, no need for another haha, 5 fans won't do you much better than 4.

Also try to find a newegg promo code for ~10% off. You'll save like $150.

From: Nebula
The build on post #27 looks alright to me. Just don't get the $10 case fan since the haf912 comes with 2 fans, plus the heatsink/fan you chose comes with a free 140mm fan. So you'll have 3 case fans and a heatsink+fan, no need for another haha, 5 fans won't do you much better than 4.

Also try to find a newegg promo code for ~10% off. You'll save like $150.

Ahh, I noticed there was 2 of 4 fans already come within the case. And I didn't think about the $10 fan >.<

Plus the promo code only saves up to $100, but nonetheless is useful.

Sent in the order a little bit ago, added some cables, a mouse, and a keyboard; feeling great about it other than parting with my money! :P

That is going to be a fun computer! Can't believe you sprung for the i7 :D haha let us know how many simba's you get going!

From: Le Jingle
Ahh, I noticed there was 2 of 4 fans already come within the case. And I didn't think about the $10 fan >.<

Plus the promo code only saves up to $100, but nonetheless is useful.

Sent in the order a little bit ago, added some cables, a mouse, and a keyboard; feeling great about it other than parting with my money! :P

cables? all the ones you need should come with :P

Parts arrived today.. ^.^

I'll assemble either later tonight or tomorrow (Friday night will have more time)

Should I post pics? :p It would seem fair, as I've asked for so much help. :)

I'll see how many Simba's I can get going too after all is built :>

Definitely post pics :)

Kinda kool ^.^

Looks good!!!

Thanks!! :D

I really like everything in there except for the CPU cooler… Plus the effort for setting/making the cooler was a little too much effort for how "cheap" it feels to me. :/ So I'll test it out a while longer and maybe send it back in.

Given this is my first official desktop build, I'd say WOW there is a lot more wires to deal with compared to building laptops.. But nonetheless, THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT ON THIS VILLAVU! Made me happpppyyy! :)

Nice :D

Does it work? One of the most disappointing feelings in the world is when you spend time money and effort building a computer and you turn it on, and boom, blue screen of death. Applause for not getting the $200 case, the $50 works just fine. The $200 would be overkill, you would have like a cubic mile of extra space and like 10 empty dvd/hdd slots.

Yeah I'm glad I didn't get the huge SSD and the more expensive case. Feel more like a price sniping pro :cool: Kind of feel like I should get an air purifier to place next to my build so all the open air doesn't get an excessive amount dust building up.

It boots, now I just have work out tonight on how to boot from usb that has my New/Free windows ultimate OS on it.. :s So I guess I get to learn a little about BIOS?

EDIT: Also –> 2 questions (don't expect answers, more so opinions):
1. Is Artic thermal paste (diamond/best grade) better than stock CPU thermal paste? (I'm thinking yes, in which I'll clean my stock stuff off and redo)
2. Would water cooling be something to look into? Experiences too from anyone?

Cheers,
Lj!
:)

Water cooling is expensive, and in my opinion, totally unnecessary (especially since you already have a top of the line processor.
Yes Artic thermal paste is the bomb, will definitely drop your temps. (I posted in your other thread about usb booting)

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From: Le Jingle

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What are the specs of the computer you did that test on?

From: BMWxi
What are the specs of the computer you did that test on?

Pssh! xD

(look a couple posts up on this thread's page #2, post 27 iirc) ;)

I'm just over excited for the moment :D :D :D Having too much fun, I know

E; haven't set up overclocking yet either, fyi, but I did notice an OC Genie tab in BIOS :>

From: Le Jingle
Pssh! xD

(look a couple posts up on this thread's page #2, post 27 iirc) ;)

I'm just over excited for the moment :D :D :D Having too much fun, I know

E; haven't set up overclocking yet either, fyi, but I did notice an OC Genie tab in BIOS :>

Oh right, hadn't looked at this thread in awhile and forgot you were the OP lol

Anyway, can't wait to test my computer using that feature! Didn't even know it was there.

Have fun with your new pc :3

Thanks! :)

To use it, just hit the windows key and right click on 'Computer,' and then 'Properties' on the drop down menu. A screen will pop up and hit 'Windows Experience Index.' Then test it out/update it if you've not used it before/for a while. ;)

I think this will last me quite a while, this new desktop build. Very happy and very thankful for everyone who has helped me with the build. The inputs are so much appreciated!

Granted this is a double post, but should I be concerned if I hear an occasional 'splash,' or 'sting'? (Concerned about this new build, don't need it breaking on me..)

I hear a sound every now and then that sounds like: splashing some water onto a hot skillet. A sizzle, if you will. Is this anything to be concerned about?

From what I read it could be a psu/heatsink problem, and guessing by my parts, the fan would be more at fault, no?

Edit:
Note my RAM is constantly under 15%;
Note my sound happens 'every now and then'

Never heard of that error before, google is my only suggestion…