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good hopefully they expose the perverts and tell the world what sick F***s they are. lets see how you feel when your neighbours, friends, co-workers all know what disgusting pigs you are because all your dirty little secrets about what you do on your computer are exposed for the world to see. these guys are great:)

lol look at the shadow by his head. it looks like chuck noris shadow of his hat:norris:

We are Legion. We do not forgive, we do not forget. Expect us.
#AnonOps

heard a lot about these guys, i like how they are always trying to do the world favours by exposing stuff like this and destroying them.

Ha, old news. I thought most cp sites were on .onion and you can't really do anything about them. Are they are regular sites now?

L0l I know someone in Anonymous :P

From: Sokkr7
L0l I know someone in Anonymous :P

that wouldn't make them anonymous than! Although if he is really part of them, he trusted the wrong guy since you are mentioning it to us :p

did anyone watch the other vid when its done playing the one to obama. first time hearing about the indefinate detention bill.. pretty crazy stuff, did a bit of reading on that as well as a wack of other things going on in the us and all i can say is they should change the deffinition of terrorist to a picture of uncle sam in the dictionary

From: Sokkr7
L0l I know someone in Anonymous :P

Ironic^

From: pulse0
good hopefully they expose the perverts and tell the world what sick F***s they are.

You do realise that this is what they are attracted to and that they see nothing wrong with it? Most of them hate themselves because of what society says about them.

A lot of paedophiles realise that what they are attracted to isn't "right" in societies eyes and attempt to seek help but they don't. Do you know why? Because they know there are people like you saying that stuff about them.

I hate to break the bad news to you but exposing them isn't going to help "cure" them at all. It's just going to get them sent away and possibly ruin their entire life as they won't be able to find jobs, make friends or do anything like that, because of instead of helping the person you are telling everyone to stay away from them.

Tell that ^ to the Family, Friends, Children that have been effected by these creatures, If someone get's busted with cp on their pc they don't go to jail forever, but if they get busted with video's of them molesting or raping a young child then they will.

N2m all of the kid's being prayed upon and trafficked overseas for sick old men that travel over their.. because it is so profitable for them..

How long do you think those children would be effected for? They are sick fuck's if they can still be attracted to them, or even act upon their attraction n watch that kind of stuff :( makes me sick..

Although yeah I do see the system not helping them and how it could be better designed.. but the worlds far from imperfect also the young should always have priority over the old.

will these guys ever release one for all the secrets behind jagex..hmm…

It seems like most people don't understand what pedophilia is. Most pedophiles aren't child molesters. Most pedophiles are harmless. But let someone know you're a pedophile and the word gets out? Might as well kill yourself because your life is over; no one will ever hire you, trust you, etc. Also "Anonymous" are a bunch of idiot skids who make even more censorship even though they claim to be against it.

From: leetsxc
How long do you think those children would be effected for?

I don't know. But they can get help for that if they ever need to, because they will have a lot of support from family, friends, psychologists, etc… That isn't too much of a problem. The problem is preventing it from happening in the first place. Which is why most of them attempt to seek help before things start to happen.

From: leetsxc
They are sick fuck's if they can still be attracted to them, or even act upon their attraction n watch that kind of stuff :( makes me sick..

See, and now you are doing it too. Calling them names and labelling them. Imagine if someone close to you wanted to come clean about being a paedophile, only to be told that people like them are the worst people in the world.

You want to send them to jail to "cure" them? That is just as effective as trying to send a homosexual person to church to "cure" them.

From: Harry
It seems like most people don't understand what pedophilia is. Most pedophiles aren't child molesters. Most pedophiles are harmless. But let someone know you're a pedophile and the word gets out? Might as well kill yourself because your life is over; no one will ever hire you, trust you, etc

That pretty much sums it all up.

From: leetsxc
Tell that ^ to the Family, Friends, Children that have been effected by these creatures, If someone get's busted with cp on their pc they don't go to jail forever, but if they get busted with video's of them molesting or raping a young child then they will.

N2m all of the kid's being prayed upon and trafficked overseas for sick old men that travel over their.. because it is so profitable for them..

How long do you think those children would be effected for? They are sick fuck's if they can still be attracted to them, or even act upon their attraction n watch that kind of stuff :( makes me sick..

Although yeah I do see the system not helping them and how it could be better designed.. but the worlds far from imperfect also the young should always have priority over the old.

I agree for mostly with what you say.
But the young should not always get priority over the old.
Older people poses wisdom, without it the youth would be lost.

You can't say you are part of anonymous or know someone that is part of it, because when you claim to be part of that group, you exclude yourself from it.

Also boobs don't just magicaly "spawn" when a girls turns 18 years old. Just saying.

From: cycrosism
You do realise that this is what they are attracted to and that they see nothing wrong with it? Most of them hate themselves because of what society says about them.

A lot of paedophiles realise that what they are attracted to isn't "right" in societies eyes and attempt to seek help but they don't. Do you know why? Because they know there are people like you saying that stuff about them.

I hate to break the bad news to you but exposing them isn't going to help "cure" them at all. It's just going to get them sent away and possibly ruin their entire life as they won't be able to find jobs, make friends or do anything like that, because of instead of helping the person you are telling everyone to stay away from them.

as a father of 2, i dont really care what these people think is right and wrong because its just plain sick. and how does what people say about paedophiles have to do with somebody going out and getting help with they're problem. last time i checked any sort of counciling has doctor/patient confidentiality. everytime somebody walks into a therapy office to get help for being a paedophile there isnt a front page headline advertising they're name and personal information. so they have no problem hiding the fact they look at kiddy porn or fantisize about under age kids so why cant they hide the fact that they are seeking help for they're issues? its one thing to realize that you have a problem and try to fix it, but dont try to deny the issue by saying its right and there is nothing wrong with what your doing and when somebody finds out and kicks the crap out of you then your gonna play the victim, which is exactly what they do

and you know what would come of exposing them? it could potentially save lives. if a huge list of peoples names who are surfing on child porn sites was to be released, and people were to read that list. everybody on that list has a neighbour, lives in a community, maybe they volenteer at the local community centre, or the local pool. or run a daycare, or sit in the park every afternoon, attend the next door neighbours christmas party. all of these things giving these people access for they're problem to set over the line of watching these things online to acting out on what they see and attack somebody at least people are aware of who these people are

From: stuartroad
heard a lot about these guys, i like how they are always trying to do the world favours by exposing stuff like this and destroying them.

I laughed really hard on that one. They care shit about the world. I don't know why people think they are the silence heroes fighting against the government for more rights. They enjoy destroying people generally, not only pedos.
People wearing a Guy Fawks mask and holding STOP ACTA banners are not automatically in anon.

You realize that anon was founded on 4chan by kids with nothing in mind than harm other people and do things they like wether other like it or not. And of course to fight Scientology.

This movement is a joke, nothing more than a tumor.

Everyone can join their IRC and be a part of it. Then you become a ub33r l33t hacker because you DDOS random companies.

From: Harry
Also "Anonymous" are a bunch of idiot skids who make even more censorship even though they claim to be against it.

This.

From: fre
I agree for mostly with what you say.
But the young should not always get priority over the old.
Older people poses wisdom, without it the youth would be lost.

Mmm True, very wise word's..
I mean what would we do without these guy's.. rite

From: pulse0
and you know what would come of exposing them? it could potentially save lives. if a huge list of peoples names who are surfing on child porn sites was to be released, and people were to read that list. everybody on that list has a neighbour, lives in a community, maybe they volenteer at the local community centre, or the local pool. or run a daycare, or sit in the park every afternoon, attend the next door neighbours christmas party. all of these things giving these people access for they're problem to set over the line of watching these things online to acting out on what they see and attack somebody at least people are aware of who these people are

Save lives. Lol. That is not true, most pedophiles are harmless. Just because I am hetero guy(not pedo) doesn't mean I will rape girls my age. Pedophiles will not rape children. It are two completely different things. It is frowned upon by the society, their privacy should be respected. There is no reason to expose them. That Martijn website they were talking about was a website where those people could gather and talk about there problems, now they released the members contact information. I don't think that is a good job by them. Most of them don't see it as a positive thing either, but you can't control what attracts you.

If anomynous really wants to do something against it, they will attack websites like motherless.com and such. And find the people that upload cp. Not going after the viewers…

From: pulse0
i dont really care what these people think is right and wrong

Clearly you do.

From: pulse0
how does what people say about paedophiles have to do with somebody going out and getting help with they're problem. last time i checked any sort of counciling has doctor/patient confidentiality.

What if they don't want to go to a psychologist to seek "help"? What if they want to go to someone that they trust to seek help? Possibly their close friends and family as those are the people that will support them the most?

There is no "confidentiality" in this case. This person may open up to you saying they have a problem and they want help and the first thing you are going to do is say "Fuck you, you're a sick pervert". That is NOT going to help at all.

From: pulse0
so they have no problem hiding the fact they look at kiddy porn or fantisize about under age kids so why cant they hide the fact that they are seeking help for they're issues?

Obviously they are going to keep it quiet if that is what they are doing. Imagine how their life would be affected if their family found out that they were looking at child pornography. It's not like a paedophile is going to run down the street shouting "I love child porn!". I guess you could say this is the exact same reason why closet homosexuals don't tell anyone that they look at gay pornography.

From: pulse0
its one thing to realize that you have a problem and try to fix it, but dont try to deny the issue by saying its right and there is nothing wrong with what your doing

If it isn't obvious to you already, the reason most of them do not seek help is because they do not want other people to know what they are doing. It is as simple as that. Tell an arsonists to go to a police station and ask for help with their problem.

Also, I never said it was "right" and I certainly did not say that there is nothing wrong with what they are doing.

From: pulse0
when somebody finds out and kicks the crap out of you then your gonna play the victim, which is exactly what they do

Here we go. That is your solution? If you find out someone is a paedophile you are going to beat them? Please explain how this will help the situation.

From: pulse0
and you know what would come of exposing them? it could potentially save lives. if a huge list of peoples names who are surfing on child porn sites was to be released, and people were to read that list. everybody on that list has a neighbour, lives in a community, maybe they volenteer at the local community centre, or the local pool. or run a daycare, or sit in the park every afternoon, attend the next door neighbours christmas party. all of these things giving these people access for they're problem to set over the line of watching these things online to acting out on what they see and attack somebody at least people are aware of who these people are

First of all, they are paedophiles, not murderers. Also what if my computer had a virus on it and accessed child porn websites without my knowledge? And then every single person who knew me was told I was a paedophile? Imagine what my life would be like if I just wanted to go for a walk around the block or go to my local shops.

Also, refer to what Harry said.

Most pedophiles aren't child molesters. Most pedophiles are harmless.

Mmm yeah that's very true, what if it was a virus.. etc and they did do that to someone
Also yes I agree with almost everything, paedophiles are not murderers, but I believe the ones who Rape/Abduct/Abuse-Kids/Infants compare quite close to a murderer although I think some are even worse than a murderer tho etc because of the cases I've read about where, people have locked their children up in their homes, chained them or put them in a secret hidden area in their houses such as a hidden basement or something and abused them for years upon years.
That kind of torture is something truly evil

From: fre
I agree for mostly with what you say.
But the young should not always get priority over the old.
Older people poses wisdom, without it the youth would be lost.

he means they should be prioritised in safety, these children can't do anything about it, whereas the adults can, they don't have to do what they do.
it has nothing to do with intelligence or wisdom, lol…

From: leetsxc
paedophiles are not murderers, but I believe the ones who Rape/Abduct/Abuse-Kids/Infants compare quite close to a murderer

But very little paedophiles actually act on their feelings.

People really shouldn't compare rape and similar crimes to murder. They are very very different things.

Read this for example:

There are two people, Jerry and Vanessa. Jerry has been drinking vodka and is completely wasted. Vanessa says, "Hey Jerry, Wanna have sex?". Jerry responds, "OK". Vanessa grabs his hand and pulls him up the stairs, since he is too drunk to walk, and into the bedroom. Vanessa ties Jerry to the bed so tightly that he can't move and puts a condom on him. They have sex. Because Vanessa never said "Yes" or "Let's have sex", she calls the cops on Jerry for rape. He is arrested.

Rapists don't resemble murderers.

From: cycrosism
But very little paedophiles actually act on their feelings.

People really shouldn't compare rape and similar crimes to murder. They are very very different things.

Read this for example:



Rapists don't resemble murderers.

are you trying to say rape isn't as bad as murder?, because both are extremely bad and in some cases rape can be a lot worse.

From: 321
are you trying to say rape isn't as bad as murder?, because both are extremely bad and in some cases rape can be a lot worse.

Of course rape isn't as bad as murder. Killing someone does not compare to non consensual sex.

How can rape be worse?

From: cycrosism
Of course rape isn't as bad as murder. Killing someone does not compare to non consensual sex.

How can rape be worse?

Because it can destroy somebody's life, often leading people to wanting to kill themselves.


obviously murder is extremely bad, but it only affects those who close to the victim, and in some cases the victim may not have anybody who is close.

whereas rape seriously affects the person as well as family members + friends. it also leads to woman getting pregnant, giving birth to children who will never know their father and the mother could still be seriously affected and not able to look after the child. leading on to the child being put into care or whatever and then the child could live a horrible life and so on..

From: 321
obviously murder is extremely bad, but it only affects those who close to the victim, and in some cases the victim may not have anybody who is close. whereas rape seriously affects the person as well as family members + friends.

I'm not sure if you are trolling.

Erm. Rape = victim still alive. Murder = victim dead. I guess being dead is better than being alive according to you…

From: Green Bay Packers
Erm. Rape = victim still alive. Murder = victim dead. I guess being dead is better than being alive according to you…

well it leads to people wanting to kill themselves, so obviously to the victim being dead is better. what sort of life is that?

clearly you have never met a rape victim, and you have no idea what you're talking about.


and to cyrocism, stop being so childish, clearly you've lost the argument so have resorted to using childish comebacks.

From: 321
well it leads to people wanting to kill themselves. what sort of life is that?

First of all you say that murder only affects people who are close to the victim and you also say that rape affects every single person who knew the victim. Are you seriously trying to tell me that?

And answer this, which of the following would upset you more: Someone touching your best friend in "inappropriate" places when she said no OR someone killing your best friend.

And rape isn't the only thing that can make people suicidal. People losing their job, having a loved one die, going through a divorce or a breakup, etc…

From: cycrosism
First of all you say that murder only affects people who are close to the victim and you also say that rape affects every single person who knew the victim. Are you seriously trying to tell me that?

And answer this, which of the following would upset you more: Someone touching your best friend in "inappropriate" places when she said no OR someone killing your best friend.

And rape isn't the only thing that can make people suicidal. People losing their job, having a loved one die, going through a divorce or a breakup, etc…

right, but my main point which i was trying to get across was that rape seriously affects the whole lives of victims, children and family members.

i've lost many family members, and after a while i get over it, it no longer affects my everyday life, of course it's very upsetting at first.

rape leads to the victim being very distressed and perhaps suicidal and then the victims children will be affected leading them to being suicidal or even becoming murderers themselves


i'm not trying to start an argument, nor am i trying to say murder isn't bad. of course both are bad, so there's no need to flame at my opinions, please.

From: 321
right, but my main point which i was trying to get across was that rape seriously affects the whole lives of victims, children and family members.

Please answer my question in my previous post.

From: cycrosism
Please answer my question in my previous post.

no, i just meant family members. pretty sure i didn't say it affects every single person.

really, that's all you could comeback with, a petty mistake which i made..
urgh, anyway, can we get back to the point of the original post.

paedophiles are wrong, it's their choice to do what they do, no matter what they are attracted too, they don't have to do it.

it's like drugs, weed for example. many people choose to do it, but don't have to do it, they simply want to and enjoy it.

and yes, obviously the children should be prioritizes over adults as a child cannot do anything about it, and seriously affects the child just so some sick adult can have his pleasure.

From: cycrosism
which of the following would upset you more: Someone touching your best friend in "inappropriate" places when she said no OR someone killing your best friend.

It was this question that I was referring to.

From: 321
are you trying to say rape isn't as bad as murder?, because both are extremely bad and in some cases rape can be a lot worse.

Would you rather be raped for 10~15 minutes max or be killed? I'm not saying rape isn't bad, but it's kind of overboard saying that rape is worse…

From: SeaBass
Would you rather be raped for 10~15 minutes max or be killed? I'm not saying rape isn't bad, but it's kind of overboard saying that rape is worse…

are you being serious?

it's the mental damage, caused to you. don't you understand how many woman are seriously affected by it and become suicidal?

did you really just actually ask that question "being raped for 10-15 mins max"

what the actual fuck?
what about the mental damage? what about the children's mental damage?

seriously, i cannot actually tell you how retarded that post was…

From: 321
are you being serious?

it's the mental damage, caused to you. don't you understand how many woman are seriously affected by it and become suicidal?

did you really just actually ask that question "being raped for 10-15 mins max"

what the actual fuck?
what about the mental damage? what about the children's mental damage?

seriously, i cannot actually tell you how retarded that post was…

I am still waiting for an answer to my question, and just to let you know, rape can also happen to men as well.

Also,
Thanks for the maturity.

From: cycrosism
I am still waiting for an answer to my question, and just to let you know, rape can also happen to men as well.

Also,
Thanks for the maturity.

ok, i found the question you wanted me to answer (next time use a question mark)

and which would affect me more?

well, if my friend got murdered i would be pretty upset, but atleast they lived a good life.

if my friend got raped, pregnant and then commited suicide. well, they had an extremely horrible experience, also that child would have died.

so, yeah the second one would affect me a lot more.

From: 321
ok, i found the question you wanted me to answer (next time use a question mark)

Really? You only just found the question just now, after me both saying "Answer this" and then making another post, quoting it, and then making another post asking you to answer it? Seriously?

From: 321

well, if my friend got murdered i would be pretty upset, but atleast they lived a good life.

if my friend got raped, pregnant and then commited suicide. well, they had an extremely horrible experience

So you really would not care to the slightest if your friend got murdered?

Sorry but killing yourself after being raped… Surely it is bad, but that is an extreme outcome. Killing is worse then rape imo. But both are extremely violent and bad things. I don't see how this relates to anonymous releasing pedophile information on the web. Those pedophiles didn't committed rape. Those who did are either in prison or are under severe surveillance with no privacy.

edit:
After reading my comment back I think I should rephrase it. Killing yourself after being raped is a worst case scenario. Many people will live on after or able to get past the trauma. I am not saying that the victim is weak when he or she doesn't, but raping won't always lead to the victim dying. In many cases the rape victim will survive it, if they can place the trauma away is a challenge.

Killing however will always lead in the end of the life of the victim. It is the biggest crime a person can commit to another. It is horrible and people should always be aware that there is no positive thing about it. Even during a war, where enemy lives are worth nothing.

But I think this is a tad off topic since the thread was about anonymous releasing personal information about pedophiles. Pedophiles in general, not rapist. And it is important to keep a line between molesters and pedophiles. I honestly believe they were born this way and are able to suppress there needs.

From: cycrosism
Really? You only just found the question just now, after me both saying "Answer this" and then making another post, quoting it, and then making another post asking you to answer it? Seriously?



So you really would not care to the slightest if your friend got murdered?

"upset", "UPSET" want me to highlight that more?

anyway, i'm not in the mood for this depressing sh*t, you wanna' flame on my opinions, you go ahead, i'm off to a party.

chao

at the end of the day. pedo's are pedo's and they are scum.

if you have the nerve to look at cp and say "on but im not a bad person" then there's more to it than meets the eye.

pedophilia is a step down from rape. people fantasizing over children is fucking sick.

and people saying that they aint rapists…. damn that's wrong.
in my eyes. if your fantasizing over defenseless children then your also fantasizing about raping them.
it makes me sick to my stomach even thinking about it.

Joseph Fritzl is a perfect example of this. he kept his child locked up in a hidden basement, forced her to have his children and also abused them.

but according to some people. pedophilia doesn't really make you a rapist…
1) Fantasy is what you desire
2) If you have the option to act out your fantasy, you'll do it.

the only reason these people look at this shit is because they can't get to it everyday as they desire.

your just as disgusting of a human being if you even think that pedo's deserve a little bit of positive attention.

From: masterBB
Pedophiles in general, not rapist. And it is important to keep a line between molesters and pedophiles. I honestly believe they were born this way and are able to suppress there needs.

It is very important that there is a difference between molesters and paedophiles, because very very little paedophiles actually act on their feelings. They just stay at home and look at nasty things on the internet, they are not doing any harm to any other people, instead they are keeping everything to themselves. If anonymous decides to release the names of these people to the public they will just ruin their lives. They could be nice people for all you know, they could have a good job, a fair amount of money, a lot of good friends, generally living a good life.

Instead of helping these people by offering to help them, such as setting up a website so paedophiles can talk to each other about their troubles, anonymous wants to release the names of everyone using this service so people can jeer at them and poke fun at them.

They are seeking help through people that they do not know so their lives do not get affected, and by anonymous doing what they are doing, it is just silly, because it is not going to help.

From: cycrosism
If anonymous decides to release the names of these people to the public they will just ruin their lives.

You mean like the many others they ruin? All's fair in love and war. I hate when people say "They were born that way".. That is absolutely the most bs I have ever heard. This sounds like another religious vs. gay argument but I personally do not believe they are born that way. Their puberty got f**cked up. No one can go to the hospital and point out a pedo-baby to me and there is no genetic proof.

Who cares if they can't control their feelings or urges to go after little kids. It's their fault. If you're a pedophile and your searching the internet for kids, you deserve to get put in jail whether or not your a nice pedo. You're caught in the act of looking for kids.

Murder is equally bad as rape in the sense that a rape victim will be torture for the rest of their lives. They will see that rapist in their mind every day, every sleep, etc.. This almost always leads to a suicide or a recurring assault. Kids usually grow up doing what they know best or the totally opposite. So it depends.

And yes I agree with anonymous wiping them out. Did anyone else see the Wendys restaurant rape? Where the guy started stabbing up the kid cuz he refused to give up? Right…

From: masterBB
Save lives. Lol. That is not true, most pedophiles are harmless.

MOST pedophiles are harmless but there are still the ones who are acting out on they're fantisys ruining peoples lifes in the process. so how is awareness not going to save lifes? how is being aware that your next door neighbour fantisizis about having sex with children a bad thing? at least if my kid goes missing i know the first place im looking, weather he did it or not and i know that i need to warn my kids to stay away from my next door neighbour. or better yet he gets arrested BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL TO WATCH KIDDY PORN doesnt matter if they arnt out there raping kids its still illegal.

From: masterBB
Just because I am hetero guy(not pedo) doesn't mean I will rape girls my age. Pedophiles will not rape children. It are two completely different things. It is frowned upon by the society, their privacy should be respected. There is no reason to expose them.

what does you being hetro have to do with raping girls your age? do you even know the definition of a pedophile? (definition) The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. so how is being a pedophile completly diffrent from raping a child. THE ACT OR FANTASY meaning to act upon or to fantisizy about engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. HOW IS THAT NOT RAPE!? SEX WITH A MINOR IS RAPE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. "The laws presume coercion, because a minor or mentally challenged adult is legally incapable of giving consent to the act." and if your contributing to raping a little kid directly or indirectly (if there was not pedophiles watching kiddy porn there would be nobody making child porn so by watching the kiddy porn they are contributing to raping the child indirectly) then why shouldnt people have the right to know what they are doing. as it said in the video and not only just wat this video said. people take pictures of kids in public places and fantisize about them. they arent respecting my rights and my childs rights to be able to go to a public place without having some pervert eyeing my kids or taking pictures of them, so why shouldnt we expose these people. weather its sombody taking pictures of my kids or somebody viewing those pictures online, your still taking mine and my kids right to privacy away so why shouldnt we take theres away? i was eating in mcdonalds one time and all of a sudden i heard some girl yelling at a man. it turns out the man had taken a picture of her kid on his cell phone and she was screaming at him to delete the pictures. he was arrested and his identity made public. so if they dont want they're privacy invaded then why do so to others and then when your face is plastered all over the news then its"this is why i never seeked help" blah blah blah they play the victim, its like i said in my previous post. its not like they're out seeking help for they're problem. they're hiding behide the excuse that they think there is nothing wrong with it. but how can you say you dont know there is something wrong with it when the reason you dont go to counciling to get past your problem is that your affraid what society will say and think about you. yet the only way that it would ever get out is by you talking about it.

From: masterBB
That Martijn website they were talking about was a website where those people could gather and talk about there problems, now they released the members contact information. I don't think that is a good job by them. Most of them don't see it as a positive thing either, but you can't control what attracts you.

see the problem with a website like this is that sure there are people out there seeking help for there problem using websites like those, but then there are the people using those types of websites as places to share stories, share pictures, glorify they're problem etc. and tell me this if you smoke crack are you going to go seek help to stop smoking crack from a crack head? no your going to go to addiction counseling. so why go to a website where everyone on the website is suffering from the same problem as you. obviously they are not in a possition to give advice about how to stop they're problem when they are in the same boat as them. and if they wanted to go to a place like that for help. knowing that these sites along with any other on the internet can be corrupted and they're information is leeked then thats the risk they decided to take. lets say that somebody built a website where i could put any personal information into a type of cyber vault, and i put all my credit card and debit card numbers into this vault. 2 weeks later it gets hacked and somebody steals my identity. thats the risk that i took when i put it into the cyber vault.

From: masterBB
If anomynous really wants to do something against it, they will attack websites like motherless.com and such. And find the people that upload cp. Not going after the viewers…

not saying that the people who upload and support the videos are innocent, but without the consumer there is no product. it works that way with anything, if there are no people smoking weed are people going to grow it? if there is nobody watching kiddy porn there would be nobody producing it because just like anything else it is driven by supply and demand. as long as there is a demand there will be a supply.

From: cycrosism
Clearly you do..

Clearly i dont. i could care less what they think is right and wrong. because not only does the law define it as wrong, but so does anyone with a brain and common sence will define it that way too. i dont care what they think is right and wrong because there is no right about it. there is only wrong.

From: cycrosism
What if they don't want to go to a psychologist to seek "help"? What if they want to go to someone that they trust to seek help? Possibly their close friends and family as those are the people that will support them the most?..There is no "confidentiality" in this case. This person may open up to you saying they have a problem and they want help and the first thing you are going to do is say "Fuck you, you're a sick pervert". That is NOT going to help at all.

then thats there problem. why would i seek help for a problem from somebody who cannot offer any help to me. the point is if they really wanted help for they're problem they would forget about the fact they might be called "fuckin sick perverts" put that aside and seek help from anybody who can help them. what do you think they're friends and family are going to tell them. we support your want to change go seek help from a professional who can help you deal with your problem. and obviously they dont want to seek help if they are going to make excuses like that. because thats all it is is an excuse. its they're personal choice to get help or not nobody can force you to change you have to be willing to change. and how do you think the victim on this crime feels. you dont think the people who are raped, who are exploited want to see help from the comfort of they're family and friends? but they are too worried that people will make fun of them or that they will get blamed for it or people will thing of them as "sick"

From: cycrosism
Obviously they are going to keep it quiet if that is what they are doing. Imagine how their life would be affected if their family found out that they were looking at child pornography. It's not like a paedophile is going to run down the street shouting "I love child porn!". I guess you could say this is the exact same reason why closet homosexuals don't tell anyone that they look at gay pornography.

why should i care how they're lifes would be affected. do you think half of them stop to think "maybe the girl in the child porn im watching is there against his/her will?" or "maybe i shouldnt watch this because some little girl or boy is being exploited for my entertainment" i hardly doubt it. and if they are and continue to do it then again thats there problem. nobody is forcing them to watch child porn. if your problem is that bad. CUT YOUR INTERNET OFF they dont make child porn mags. they dont sell child porn dvds. where do you think they get this stuff. from the internet. how hard is it to call shaw and say cut my internet off? and i know a paedophile isnt going to run down the street shouting "I love child porn!". but do you think the person on the other end is going to run down the streets yelling "I WAS RAPED"?

From: cycrosism
If it isn't obvious to you already, the reason most of them do not seek help is because they do not want other people to know what they are doing. It is as simple as that. Tell an arsonists to go to a police station and ask for help with their problem. Also, I never said it was "right" and I certainly did not say that there is nothing wrong with what they are doing.

its simple as that right? well its simple as if you dont want to seek help for your problem, if you dont want people to know what your doing. and your not trying to do something about it yourself. then it obviously doesnt bother them too much. and also this is why counciling would be the best for the people who dont want what they are to be known. a counsiler isnt going to say half way threw your session. "your a sick fuck, i cant help you, get the fuck outa my office you sick perv" no they became counsilers knowing full well what they are dealing with because they want to HELP. if they had a problem with all the stories they hear, they would quit. or better stop taking patients who are seeking help for being a pedophile.

From: cycrosism
Here we go. That is your solution? If you find out someone is a paedophile you are going to beat them? Please explain how this will help the situation.

did i ever say i was going to beat them if i find out they are perverts? no i said "its one thing to realize that you have a problem and try to fix it, but dont try to deny the issue by saying its right and there is nothing wrong with what your doing and when somebody finds out and kicks the crap out of you then your gonna play the victim, which is exactly what they do" which i have experienced personally. i spent 2 years in prison and seen many pervets come in and out, they come to General population, glorify they're crimes pretend like what they do isnt wrong because he/she "consented" and then once people roll them out they play the victim card and cry because they are under attack and they arent getting treated fairly.they dont need to talk about it they can keep they're lips shut about there charges yet the come in like the own the place and they're not as bad as the rest in here because they arent out there hurting people yet they're hurting somebody who cant stand up to them who cant fight them because any grown man is going to over power somebody whos not even half they're age. then cry because they got the crap kicked out of them. its just like somebody who robs old ladys purses. she cant defend herself and thats exactly why they pray on them.

From: cycrosism
First of all, they are paedophiles, not murderers. Also what if my computer had a virus on it and accessed child porn websites without my knowledge? And then every single person who knew me was told I was a paedophile? Imagine what my life would be like if I just wanted to go for a walk around the block or go to my local shops..

did i compare them to murderers? not at all. what i was trying to say it things escilate. do you think people who go around raping kids just one day wake up and say im gonna go rape a kid? no it progresses to that point. they might start off looking at a couple pictures, fantisizing, then maybe the escilate to going onto chat rooms and talking to underage people, then it might escilate to them going to meet these kids. then next thing you know some kid was raped maybe even killed. the point i was trying to make is, if i was to know my next door neighbour was a pervert. not saying hes going to do that but there is always the possiblity. at least i know which puts me in a better position then if i didnt know. knowing is half the battle. and if i know he has a history of looking at kiddy porn, and i know full well he might one day escilate from watching to acting out his own. i have already taken procaution

From: cycrosism
It is very important that there is a difference between molesters and paedophiles, because very very little paedophiles actually act on their feelings. They just stay at home and look at nasty things on the internet, they are not doing any harm to any other people, instead they are keeping everything to themselves. If anonymous decides to release the names of these people to the public they will just ruin their lives. They could be nice people for all you know, they could have a good job, a fair amount of money, a lot of good friends, generally living a good life. Instead of helping these people by offering to help them, such as setting up a website so paedophiles can talk to each other about their troubles, anonymous wants to release the names of everyone using this service so people can jeer at them and poke fun at them.

there is no diffrence between molesters and pedophiles google the deffinition of a child molester and a pedophile
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Child+Molestation READ THE FIRST SENTANCE

"Child molestation is a crime involving a range of indecent or sexual activities between an adult and a child, usually under the age of 14. In psychiatric terms, these acts are sometimes known as pedophilia."

"The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children."
"Sex or sexual activity with children who have not reached puberty."
"A paraphilia involving hetero- or homosexuoerotic fantasy, activity or intercourse initiated by a postpubertal adolescent or adult male or female with prepubescent children"
"in which an adult desires or engages in sexual relations with a child; it may be either homosexual or heterosexual in nature. "
and all your doing by setting up a website for pedos to get together is bringing them together. have you ever watched dateline where these perverts have get togethers. and they share stories, and swap pictures, WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY MEET?

Anonymous = The Dark Knight(s) ?
In the end, just taking the sites down will do some justice

From: pulse0
MOST pedophiles are harmless but there are still the ones who are acting out on they're fantisys ruining peoples lifes in the process. so how is awareness not going to save lifes? how is being aware that your next door neighbour fantisizis about having sex with children a bad thing? at least if my kid goes missing i know the first place im looking, weather he did it or not and i know that i need to warn my kids to stay away from my next door neighbour. or better yet he gets arrested BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL TO WATCH KIDDY PORN doesnt matter if they arnt out there raping kids its still illegal.



what does you being hetro have to do with raping girls your age? do you even know the definition of a pedophile? (definition) The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. so how is being a pedophile completly diffrent from raping a child. THE ACT OR FANTASY meaning to act upon or to fantisizy about engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. HOW IS THAT NOT RAPE!? SEX WITH A MINOR IS RAPE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. "The laws presume coercion, because a minor or mentally challenged adult is legally incapable of giving consent to the act." and if your contributing to raping a little kid directly or indirectly (if there was not pedophiles watching kiddy porn there would be nobody making child porn so by watching the kiddy porn they are contributing to raping the child indirectly) then why shouldnt people have the right to know what they are doing. as it said in the video and not only just wat this video said. people take pictures of kids in public places and fantisize about them. they arent respecting my rights and my childs rights to be able to go to a public place without having some pervert eyeing my kids or taking pictures of them, so why shouldnt we expose these people. weather its sombody taking pictures of my kids or somebody viewing those pictures online, your still taking mine and my kids right to privacy away so why shouldnt we take theres away? i was eating in mcdonalds one time and all of a sudden i heard some girl yelling at a man. it turns out the man had taken a picture of her kid on his cell phone and she was screaming at him to delete the pictures. he was arrested and his identity made public. so if they dont want they're privacy invaded then why do so to others and then when your face is plastered all over the news then its"this is why i never seeked help" blah blah blah they play the victim, its like i said in my previous post. its not like they're out seeking help for they're problem. they're hiding behide the excuse that they think there is nothing wrong with it. but how can you say you dont know there is something wrong with it when the reason you dont go to counciling to get past your problem is that your affraid what society will say and think about you. yet the only way that it would ever get out is by you talking about it.



see the problem with a website like this is that sure there are people out there seeking help for there problem using websites like those, but then there are the people using those types of websites as places to share stories, share pictures, glorify they're problem etc. and tell me this if you smoke crack are you going to go seek help to stop smoking crack from a crack head? no your going to go to addiction counseling. so why go to a website where everyone on the website is suffering from the same problem as you. obviously they are not in a possition to give advice about how to stop they're problem when they are in the same boat as them. and if they wanted to go to a place like that for help. knowing that these sites along with any other on the internet can be corrupted and they're information is leeked then thats the risk they decided to take. lets say that somebody built a website where i could put any personal information into a type of cyber vault, and i put all my credit card and debit card numbers into this vault. 2 weeks later it gets hacked and somebody steals my identity. thats the risk that i took when i put it into the cyber vault.



not saying that the people who upload and support the videos are innocent, but without the consumer there is no product. it works that way with anything, if there are no people smoking weed are people going to grow it? if there is nobody watching kiddy porn there would be nobody producing it because just like anything else it is driven by supply and demand. as long as there is a demand there will be a supply.


Clearly i dont. i could care less what they think is right and wrong. because not only does the law define it as wrong, but so does anyone with a brain and common sence will define it that way too. i dont care what they think is right and wrong because there is no right about it. there is only wrong.



then thats there problem. why would i seek help for a problem from somebody who cannot offer any help to me. the point is if they really wanted help for they're problem they would forget about the fact they might be called "fuckin sick perverts" put that aside and seek help from anybody who can help them. what do you think they're friends and family are going to tell them. we support your want to change go seek help from a professional who can help you deal with your problem. and obviously they dont want to seek help if they are going to make excuses like that. because thats all it is is an excuse. its they're personal choice to get help or not nobody can force you to change you have to be willing to change. and how do you think the victim on this crime feels. you dont think the people who are raped, who are exploited want to see help from the comfort of they're family and friends? but they are too worried that people will make fun of them or that they will get blamed for it or people will thing of them as "sick"



why should i care how they're lifes would be affected. do you think half of them stop to think "maybe the girl in the child porn im watching is there against his/her will?" or "maybe i shouldnt watch this because some little girl or boy is being exploited for my entertainment" i hardly doubt it. and if they are and continue to do it then again thats there problem. nobody is forcing them to watch child porn. if your problem is that bad. CUT YOUR INTERNET OFF they dont make child porn mags. they dont sell child porn dvds. where do you think they get this stuff. from the internet. how hard is it to call shaw and say cut my internet off? and i know a paedophile isnt going to run down the street shouting "I love child porn!". but do you think the person on the other end is going to run down the streets yelling "I WAS RAPED"?



its simple as that right? well its simple as if you dont want to seek help for your problem, if you dont want people to know what your doing. and your not trying to do something about it yourself. then it obviously doesnt bother them too much. and also this is why counciling would be the best for the people who dont want what they are to be known. a counsiler isnt going to say half way threw your session. "your a sick fuck, i cant help you, get the fuck outa my office you sick perv" no they became counsilers knowing full well what they are dealing with because they want to HELP. if they had a problem with all the stories they hear, they would quit. or better stop taking patients who are seeking help for being a pedophile.



did i ever say i was going to beat them if i find out they are perverts? no i said "its one thing to realize that you have a problem and try to fix it, but dont try to deny the issue by saying its right and there is nothing wrong with what your doing and when somebody finds out and kicks the crap out of you then your gonna play the victim, which is exactly what they do" which i have experienced personally. i spent 2 years in prison and seen many pervets come in and out, they come to General population, glorify they're crimes pretend like what they do isnt wrong because he/she "consented" and then once people roll them out they play the victim card and cry because they are under attack and they arent getting treated fairly.they dont need to talk about it they can keep they're lips shut about there charges yet the come in like the own the place and they're not as bad as the rest in here because they arent out there hurting people yet they're hurting somebody who cant stand up to them who cant fight them because any grown man is going to over power somebody whos not even half they're age. then cry because they got the crap kicked out of them. its just like somebody who robs old ladys purses. she cant defend herself and thats exactly why they pray on them.



did i compare them to murderers? not at all. what i was trying to say it things escilate. do you think people who go around raping kids just one day wake up and say im gonna go rape a kid? no it progresses to that point. they might start off looking at a couple pictures, fantisizing, then maybe the escilate to going onto chat rooms and talking to underage people, then it might escilate to them going to meet these kids. then next thing you know some kid was raped maybe even killed. the point i was trying to make is, if i was to know my next door neighbour was a pervert. not saying hes going to do that but there is always the possiblity. at least i know which puts me in a better position then if i didnt know. knowing is half the battle. and if i know he has a history of looking at kiddy porn, and i know full well he might one day escilate from watching to acting out his own. i have already taken procaution



there is no diffrence between molesters and pedophiles google the deffinition of a child molester and a pedophile
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Child+Molestation READ THE FIRST SENTANCE

"Child molestation is a crime involving a range of indecent or sexual activities between an adult and a child, usually under the age of 14. In psychiatric terms, these acts are sometimes known as pedophilia."

"The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children."
"Sex or sexual activity with children who have not reached puberty."
"A paraphilia involving hetero- or homosexuoerotic fantasy, activity or intercourse initiated by a postpubertal adolescent or adult male or female with prepubescent children"
"in which an adult desires or engages in sexual relations with a child; it may be either homosexual or heterosexual in nature. "
and all your doing by setting up a website for pedos to get together is bringing them together. have you ever watched dateline where these perverts have get togethers. and they share stories, and swap pictures, WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY MEET?

+1.
Pedophiles need to burn in hell.

Sorry, for not reading through you comment in detail. This topic doesn't really mean a lot to me. I will try to comment my opinion on your comments. I might miss a point you say, I will also not reply on the comments on Cycrosism. Apologies in advance.

From: pulse0
MOST pedophiles are harmless but there are still the ones who are acting out on they're fantisys ruining peoples lifes in the process. so how is awareness not going to save lifes? how is being aware that your next door neighbour fantisizis about having sex with children a bad thing? at least if my kid goes missing i know the first place im looking, weather he did it or not and i know that i need to warn my kids to stay away from my next door neighbour. or better yet he gets arrested BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL TO WATCH KIDDY PORN doesnt matter if they arnt out there raping kids its still illegal.

I understand that it is illegal to watch childporn, the reason for this is obvious. Children are commonly hurt a lot, mentally and sometimes physically. I am 100% against of acting out pedophilia feelings, I am just not against the people who got the feelings and desires but don't act them out. I truly think it is not their fault.

Everyone has there fantasies. For me, those are for example that somehow a war wouldn't seem so bad in my mind. Just to show the world I am not a spoiled western kid who got the study and who got everything he desires. I obviously don't want it to happen cause it would hurt a lot of people. And there is it. I got a feeling or a desire to fight and put my life in danger and living in a dangerous world. But I don't want to the world to change in such a place. Now I don't have control over this obviously, and pedophile people do. But I hope you get my drift, an desire from the inside can be overruled by your moral values and your intelligence.

From: pulse0
what does you being hetro have to do with raping girls your age? do you even know the definition of a pedophile? (definition) The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. so how is being a pedophile completly diffrent from raping a child. THE ACT OR FANTASY meaning to act upon or to fantisizy about engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. HOW IS THAT NOT RAPE!? SEX WITH A MINOR IS RAPE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. "The laws presume coercion, because a minor or mentally challenged adult is legally incapable of giving consent to the act." and if your contributing to raping a little kid directly or indirectly (if there was not pedophiles watching kiddy porn there would be nobody making child porn so by watching the kiddy porn they are contributing to raping the child indirectly) then why shouldnt people have the right to know what they are doing. as it said in the video and not only just wat this video said. people take pictures of kids in public places and fantisize about them. they arent respecting my rights and my childs rights to be able to go to a public place without having some pervert eyeing my kids or taking pictures of them, so why shouldnt we expose these people. weather its sombody taking pictures of my kids or somebody viewing those pictures online, your still taking mine and my kids right to privacy away so why shouldnt we take theres away? i was eating in mcdonalds one time and all of a sudden i heard some girl yelling at a man. it turns out the man had taken a picture of her kid on his cell phone and she was screaming at him to delete the pictures. he was arrested and his identity made public. so if they dont want they're privacy invaded then why do so to others and then when your face is plastered all over the news then its"this is why i never seeked help" blah blah blah they play the victim, its like i said in my previous post. its not like they're out seeking help for they're problem. they're hiding behide the excuse that they think there is nothing wrong with it. but how can you say you dont know there is something wrong with it when the reason you dont go to counciling to get past your problem is that your affraid what society will say and think about you. yet the only way that it would ever get out is by you talking about it.

Quite a wall of text you wrote their. I am not sure, but I got a feeling you are angry. If so, then please don't. I don't want to attack anyone with my comments.

I agree I used a bad metaphor. Let me rephrase it; I don't rape girls I desire but can't get. I would never do such a thing. But I still desire and fantasies about them. I don't think most pedophiles act out there desires. Of course if they look at children and are truly a hinder or do it at such a way people assume he is or she is a pedophile, then I understand that is a hinder.

Openly taking pictures of young girls and boys, especially, but not limited to, if from angels or on moments when it is in appropriate is in my opinion acting out pedophilia. This should be punished, but I understand it is really hard to get evidence for that. I believe it is a law that if someone asks you to remove a certain picture, then they have to do it. But could be wrong if you see how the paparazzi works. Also how do you spot the difference between a hobbiest photographer taking a picture of a young girl on a beach purely because it has a beautiful composition from a pedophile taking the same picture with an other goal for it in mind?

From: pulse0
see the problem with a website like this is that sure there are people out there seeking help for there problem using websites like those, but then there are the people using those types of websites as places to share stories, share pictures, glorify they're problem etc. and tell me this if you smoke crack are you going to go seek help to stop smoking crack from a crack head? no your going to go to addiction counseling. so why go to a website where everyone on the website is suffering from the same problem as you. obviously they are not in a possition to give advice about how to stop they're problem when they are in the same boat as them. and if they wanted to go to a place like that for help. knowing that these sites along with any other on the internet can be corrupted and they're information is leeked then thats the risk they decided to take. lets say that somebody built a website where i could put any personal information into a type of cyber vault, and i put all my credit card and debit card numbers into this vault. 2 weeks later it gets hacked and somebody steals my identity. thats the risk that i took when i put it into the cyber vault.

In my opinion this is a bad metaphor from your side. A crack addiction is a physical and mentally addiction to crack. Pedophilia is the desire to, not an addiction, both physically and mentally. I don't know if you got counsels for that. I believe the Martijn site wasn't used to swap images with each other, but just for talking. Even with professional help iirc. The goal was; 'How can we keep this bad desire with us without acting it out'. So just as support, not to talk about how great it is. I don't think there is a way for them to become normal, but there is a way how they can mix in the society without anyone having problems with it.

This is not a discussion about who is responsible for keeping personal information. Imo that is with the owner of the database, when signing up they usually agree that they will do their best to protect it. That is never 100%. Don't want to discuss this.

From: pulse0
not saying that the people who upload and support the videos are innocent, but without the consumer there is no product. it works that way with anything, if there are no people smoking weed are people going to grow it? if there is nobody watching kiddy porn there would be nobody producing it because just like anything else it is driven by supply and demand. as long as there is a demand there will be a supply.

I personally think the uploaders and even more important creators of this content should be brought to justice. All the financiers, if there is a financier are also guilty. People who don't pay or don't contribute aren't harmful imo. But that doesn't make it morally right, just like watching those clips where people die. It is wrong.

From: pulse0
there is no diffrence between molesters and pedophiles google the deffinition of a child molester and a pedophile
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Child+Molestation READ THE FIRST SENTANCE

"Child molestation is a crime involving a range of indecent or sexual activities between an adult and a child, usually under the age of 14. In psychiatric terms, these acts are sometimes known as pedophilia."\

That is miss-quoting. These acts are pedophilia, but pedophilia aren't those acts. A cow is mammal, but a mammal isn't a cow.

I don't wanted to offend you. Apologies if I did, maybe an odd request, but could you keep it a bit shorter :p, I don't think this topic is that interesting. I have never encountered it, or have problems with pedophiles on a regular basis.

+1 To pulse. I won't judge the grammar because the point is there. All previous posts got owned by that.

I don't rape girls I desire but can't get. I would never do such a thing. But I still desire and fantasies about them.

Wut? I'll be on my way now. I can't read anymore. I hope that doesn't include little girls.

EDIT: Read that wrong for sure.

From: Brandon
+1 To pulse. I won't judge the grammar because the point is there. All previous posts got owned by that.

They don't. Also please, it is not about owning each other.

From: Based Lord
Anonymous = The Dark Knight(s) ?
In the end, just taking the sites down will do some justice

Sarcasm detected(?)

From: Sir Ducksworthy
Mmm yeah that's very true, what if it was a virus.. etc and they did do that to someone
Also yes I agree with almost everything, paedophiles are not murderers, but I believe the ones who Rape/Abduct/Abuse-Kids/Infants compare quite close to a murderer although I think some are even worse than a murderer tho etc because of the cases I've read about where, people have locked their children up in their homes, chained them or put them in a secret hidden area in their houses such as a hidden basement or something and abused them for years upon years.
That kind of torture is something truly evil

I totally agree with you. It's the people who act on their attraction that are the real problem. Hopefully they do take down the sites, as they are most likely filled with people that are acting on their attraction if they are posting pictures of these kids or whatever else they are doing on those sites.

From: masterBB
I don't wanted to offend you. Apologies if I did, maybe an odd request, but could you keep it a bit shorter :p, I don't think this topic is that interesting. I have never encountered it, or have problems with pedophiles on a regular basis.

i appologise if i came off as rude. i didnt intend to do so. yes i was a bit angry when i wrote it but it wasnt from anyones comments. i really didnt stress from the beggining that these are my opinions and mine alone and i was in no way trying to force my opinions on anyone who reads this. it does kinda seem like i was but it was meant to be more of a rant because the topic boils my blood, which is why im not going to comment on the topic. :) lol yea after i posted and realized it was a massive post but i didnt know where to start edit so i left it.

Pedophiles are sick, no two ways about it. In fact I hope they all die.

OT: What they are doing is fine. If a virus gets hold of your computer and starts viewing child porn, the chances of the virus actually making an account with your full name and location is virtually nill.

So all names revealed should be and will be legit.

From: TehNeonFishy
It's the people who act on their attraction that are the real problem.

This is exactly right and as Harry said before most paedophiles are harmless. Most of them do not act on their feelings.

From: TehNeonFishy
Hopefully they do take down the sites, as they are most likely filled with people that are acting on their attraction if they are posting pictures of these kids or whatever else they are doing on those sites.

Those websites, yes I would agree that they should be taken down and have the names released to the police so that they can deal with it. Not to the public.

From: abu_jwka
If a virus gets hold of your computer and starts viewing child porn, the chances of the virus actually making an account with your full name and location is virtually nill.

Even if a virus does happen to download child porn the issue isn't so much that accounts are created on websites with names, you can get jailed just for accessing/contacting those websites. A virus can do this, police can track your IP address, come to your house and bust you, and you can go to jail because it was downloaded using your network.

As you guys may remember from po2n star's thread about that flats account, I am clearly against jail- and anything that could ruin your life from one decision or lifestyle choice.

Pedophiles are people, not creatures, so don't give them grotesque names and unendearing terms that you wouldn't be proud to call someone else. Yeah whatever this is teh internetz so feelings don't apply- go ahead, shoot.

Team Anonymous are a bunch of basement nerds that wear V for Vendetta masks or have bought the Renaissance Mask for 160 Runecoins so they don't get exposed.
Do you see the irony? They want to expose pedophiles, but are unwilling to be exposed themselves. I don't see them having any possible success with their little platform. This message is probably the last you'll hear of them other than that they were arrested and, like the pedophiles they wanted to put away, went to jail for a long time. After being in jail and sorting right from wrong, they are unable to find a job, insurance, or any basic living necessity. This will turn them to child porn- their only escape, and the next group of lonely idiots will put them away, continuing the cycle.

From: Joe
As you guys may remember from po2n star's thread about that flats account, I am clearly against jail- and anything that could ruin your life from one decision or lifestyle choice.

Pedophiles are people, not creatures, so don't give them grotesque names and unendearing terms that you wouldn't be proud to call someone else. Yeah whatever this is teh internetz so feelings don't apply- go ahead, shoot.

Team Anonymous are a bunch of basement nerds that wear V for Vendetta masks or have bought the Renaissance Mask for 160 Runecoins so they don't get exposed.
Do you see the irony? They want to expose pedophiles, but are unwilling to be exposed themselves. I don't see them having any possible success with their little platform. This message is probably the last you'll hear of them other than that they were arrested and, like the pedophiles they wanted to put away, went to jail for a long time. After being in jail and sorting right from wrong, they are unable to find a job, insurance, or any basic living necessity. This will turn them to child porn- their only escape, and the next group of lonely idiots will put them away, continuing the cycle.

Sadly, they have success with their "little" platform. And I doubt this is the last message you'll hear of them.

From: Joe
As you guys may remember from po2n star's thread about that flats account, I am clearly against jail- and anything that could ruin your life from one decision or lifestyle choice.

Pedophiles are people, not creatures, so don't give them grotesque names and unendearing terms that you wouldn't be proud to call someone else. Yeah whatever this is teh internetz so feelings don't apply- go ahead, shoot.

Team Anonymous are a bunch of basement nerds that wear V for Vendetta masks or have bought the Renaissance Mask for 160 Runecoins so they don't get exposed.
Do you see the irony? They want to expose pedophiles, but are unwilling to be exposed themselves. I don't see them having any possible success with their little platform. This message is probably the last you'll hear of them other than that they were arrested and, like the pedophiles they wanted to put away, went to jail for a long time. After being in jail and sorting right from wrong, they are unable to find a job, insurance, or any basic living necessity. This will turn them to child porn- their only escape, and the next group of lonely idiots will put them away, continuing the cycle.

Your attitude towards hackers is the same attitude you're telling others not to have towards pedophiles.

1. If they do come out, they're not going to go to jail. Why? Because the U.S. government created something called Hacker camp. You can search it up. All the anonymous members that were caught so far were sent there to train national security workers. They're being used for good.

2. No hacker in their right mind is going to come right out and give their full name and address and say "I did it". That's ridiculous.

3. If Hacker camp does get shut down and they decide to jail them, when they do come out, I'm pretty sure they'd be able to find a job faster than you. HP is hiring ethical hackers right now.. They train you for what you don't know and the rest is up to you. I mean not all hackers will make it anywhere but those guys already have a name to themselves, took down the FBI, Sony, Senators, etc.. Why would they just throw them away rather than get them to help the government?

From: Brandon
Your attitude towards hackers is the same attitude you're telling others not to have towards pedophiles.

1. If they do come out, they're not going to go to jail. Why? Because the U.S. government created something called Hacker camp. You can search it up. All the anonymous members that were caught so far were sent there to train national security workers. They're being used for good.

2. No hacker in their right mind is going to come right out and give their full name and address and say "I did it". That's ridiculous.

3. If Hacker camp does get shut down and they decide to jail them, when they do come out, I'm pretty sure they'd be able to find a job faster than you. HP is hiring ethical hackers right now.. They train you for what you don't know and the rest is up to you. I mean not all hackers will make it anywhere but those guys already have a name to themselves, took down the FBI, Sony, Senators, etc.. Why would they just throw them away rather than get them to help the government?

That's like hiring a merciless killer to be a government assassin. That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have heard today- maybe even all week.

From: Joe
That's like hiring a merciless killer to be a government assassin. That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have heard today- maybe even all week.

It only makes sense.. Can't beat em, join em. It's the same reason gang members get drafted to the army sometimes in some countries. It's the same reason hackers get hired. You have a skill the government needs, they're going to hire you. Why? Because you beat them at their own security game.

George Hotz. The guy who got sued by Sony and the sole reason the anonymous crap started was recently called to a conference. Guess what the conference was for? It was to teach Sony employees what was wrong with their hardware and how to better fix it. Why? Because he is in the guiness book of records for being the youngest and best hardware hacker. It's the same guy that got a Nissan 350Z for just a simple iPhone hack. It's even on forbes: http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/28/george-hotz-iphone-face-cx_jl_0828autofacescan02.html

Not only that, facebook hired him to develop the mobile app. This way, when he's under contract, he won't be developing jailbreaks for the iPhone.

Apple gave Comex an intern at their company. Why? Because after contracting him, he can no longer jailbreak their shit.. That asian kid who ported Android to the iPhone got hired and got 25k donated to him.

It only makes sense to hire the guys that are beating you and taking you down for years.

From: Brandon
It only makes sense.. Can't beat em, join em. It's the same reason gang members get drafted to the army sometimes in some countries. It's the same reason hackers get hired. You have a skill the government needs, they're going to hire you. Why? Because you beat them at their own security game.

George Hotz. The guy who got sued by Sony and the sole reason the anonymous crap started was recently called to a conference. Guess what the conference was for? It was to teach Sony employees what was wrong with their hardware and how to better fix it. Why? Because he is in the guiness book of records for being the youngest and best hardware hacker. It's the same guy that got a Nissan 350Z for just a simple iPhone hack. It's even on forbes: http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/28/george-hotz-iphone-face-cx_jl_0828autofacescan02.html

Not only that, facebook hired him to develop the mobile app. This way, when he's under contract, he won't be developing jailbreaks for the iPhone.

Apple gave Comex an intern at their company. Why? Because after contracting him, he can no longer jailbreak their shit.. That asian kid who ported Android to the iPhone got hired and got 25k donated to him.

It only makes sense to hire the guys that are beating you and taking you down for years.

Wow… sly moves.

From: Shay
We are Legion. We do not forgive, we do not forget. Expect us.
#AnonOps

They are not legion, but clones

But seriously, guys. There's a difference between a hacker and a cracker.

From: Wizzup?
They are not legion, but clones

But seriously, guys. There's a difference between a hacker and a cracker.

I dislike that website. "A hacker builds; A cracker destroys" isn't exactly correct. "You must build open source software to be a hacker".. Wth? Since when?

I prefer: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_hacking_and_cracking

It's then safe to say that all crackers are hackers, but not all hackers are crackers.

From: Brandon
I dislike that website. "A hacker builds; A cracker destroys" isn't exactly correct. "You must build open source software to be a hacker".. Wth? Since when?

I prefer: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_hacking_and_cracking

Hackers create things, solve problems and open it to everyone so that no problem has to be solved twice. Crackers indeed destroy things. What else do they do? A cracker isn't the same as a white hat hacker.

Btw, you may dislike the site, but as you may or may not have noticed, I use their icon as favicon on my site… :p

E: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_definition_controversy#Hacker_definition_controversy

Interesting, I agree with Anon that sites like those should not exist but exposing them might have a whiplash effect.

From: Joe
As you guys may remember from po2n star's thread about that flats account, I am clearly against jail- and anything that could ruin your life from one decision or lifestyle choice.

Pedophiles are people, not creatures, so don't give them grotesque names and unendearing terms that you wouldn't be proud to call someone else. Yeah whatever this is teh internetz so feelings don't apply- go ahead, shoot.

Team Anonymous are a bunch of basement nerds that wear V for Vendetta masks or have bought the Renaissance Mask for 160 Runecoins so they don't get exposed.
Do you see the irony? They want to expose pedophiles, but are unwilling to be exposed themselves. I don't see them having any possible success with their little platform. This message is probably the last you'll hear of them other than that they were arrested and, like the pedophiles they wanted to put away, went to jail for a long time. After being in jail and sorting right from wrong, they are unable to find a job, insurance, or any basic living necessity. This will turn them to child porn- their only escape, and the next group of lonely idiots will put them away, continuing the cycle.

Why should people be able to break the law, and what is morally right, and get away with it because "jail could ruin their life"? They are choosing that life by their actions, and deserve every bit of it.

Pedophiles are disgusting, and I hope Anon exposes as many as possible. How could you defend them by saying jail time is too much?

By the way, it's a Guy Faux mask, which was popular before the V for Vendetta movie. Just so you know.

There is no irony at all, they're using their skills for good, instead of chaos. There is nothing stopping anyone from exposing the huge mass of people who a part of Anon, as there have been a few in the past who have been dox'd.

"their little platform"? Really? Do you know nothing about Anon? They've been around for awhile now, and have pulled some crazy stunts. Remember LulzSec? It was founded by a few members of Anon, and look at what they accomplished.

This will not be the last message you'll hear from them, the few that got arrested is nothing. People from all around the world are a part of the group. It could be your neighbor, a teacher, a friend, etc. but you'd never know unless they flat out told you.

Your "cycle" makes no sense, at all. It's their fault for deciding to take the risk that could ruin their life, no one else's.

"lonely idiots"? They're definitely not idiots, that much I know for sure.

Gambling can ruin someones life, because they can get addicted. It's just a different medium of doing it, and the CP way has MUCH, MUCH worse consequences.

From: Brandon
Your attitude towards hackers is the same attitude you're telling others not to have towards pedophiles.

1. If they do come out, they're not going to go to jail. Why? Because the U.S. government created something called Hacker camp. You can search it up. All the anonymous members that were caught so far were sent there to train national security workers. They're being used for good.

2. No hacker in their right mind is going to come right out and give their full name and address and say "I did it". That's ridiculous.

3. If Hacker camp does get shut down and they decide to jail them, when they do come out, I'm pretty sure they'd be able to find a job faster than you. HP is hiring ethical hackers right now.. They train you for what you don't know and the rest is up to you. I mean not all hackers will make it anywhere but those guys already have a name to themselves, took down the FBI, Sony, Senators, etc.. Why would they just throw them away rather than get them to help the government?

Microsoft has been hiring these type of hackers for years now, for that exact reason. A lot of the security updates are a result of these employees hacking away.

From: Joe
That's like hiring a merciless killer to be a government assassin. That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have heard today- maybe even all week.

Ever heard of the CIA? They have some crazy shit going on in there, that will blow your mind, especially if you can't comprehend this.

From: Brandon
It only makes sense.. Can't beat em, join em. It's the same reason gang members get drafted to the army sometimes in some countries. It's the same reason hackers get hired. You have a skill the government needs, they're going to hire you. Why? Because you beat them at their own security game.

George Hotz. The guy who got sued by Sony and the sole reason the anonymous crap started was recently called to a conference. Guess what the conference was for? It was to teach Sony employees what was wrong with their hardware and how to better fix it. Why? Because he is in the guiness book of records for being the youngest and best hardware hacker. It's the same guy that got a Nissan 350Z for just a simple iPhone hack. It's even on forbes: http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/28/george-hotz-iphone-face-cx_jl_0828autofacescan02.html

Not only that, facebook hired him to develop the mobile app. This way, when he's under contract, he won't be developing jailbreaks for the iPhone.

Apple gave Comex an intern at their company. Why? Because after contracting him, he can no longer jailbreak their shit.. That asian kid who ported Android to the iPhone got hired and got 25k donated to him.

It only makes sense to hire the guys that are beating you and taking you down for years.

A lot of the really popular jailbroken app developers get picked up by Apple, it's actually one of the best ways to land a job there. Their hiring process is insane! It would be really cool to see if Apple is allowing these developers to make some cool shit for their phones. However, knowing Apple, probably not.

From: Kyle Undefined
Remember LulzSec? It was founded by a few members of Anon, and look at what they accomplished.

And what exactly did they accomplish? Absolutely nothing. Maybe you mean about them stealing and releasing people's personal information? Or maybe you mean how they've contributed to the government's demands of removing your freedoms online? Both of these are negative, regardless of how funny some people may find them to be.

They were pathetic. "Anonymous" is pathetic. They don't realize they cause more harm for themselves by trying to get so much publicity. Some people see them as being "freedom fighters", but they don't realize that their actions are simply reducing everyone's freedom.

From: Kyle Undefined

Ever heard of the CIA? They have some crazy shit going on in there, that will blow your mind, especially if you can't comprehend this.

I cannot…. COMPREHEND!
lolwut?

EDIT: Kyle has a lot of good points. And he kind of turned my view on this situation of jail…
These pedos need to rot.

Thats why Jagex hired Jacmob.

From: uz3
Ha, old news. I thought most cp sites were on .onion and you can't really do anything about them. Are they are regular sites now?

Tor only protects you so much, and the government is only allowed to do so much.. they're just monkeys

You can still take down sites, it isn't impossible. They need static information in order to be connected to… and it's been happening more and more even by government.

Yes, yes, YES please! take my wallet. Dropped a tear.

From: TotalKillz
Thats why Jagex hired Jacmob.

From: illester
Yes, yes, YES please! take my wallet. Dropped a tear.

Both of these comments make NOSENSE!
I'm just sitting here like "dafuq?"