SRL Archive - Discussions and Debates

xXTrollXx


Sin

2012-07-16 16:24:00

>_>

NKN

2012-07-16 16:24:39

You beat me to it!
:(

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 16:25:25

http://pastebin.com/RWiFuk0f

extended version ;)

kid still stealing stuff

footballjds

2012-07-16 16:40:06

Never did like that guy…

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 16:43:59


Kyle Undefined

2012-07-16 16:51:45

Wow, get the fuck over yourselves. I'm tired of your shitty attitudes thinking you're so high and fucking mighty. Stop being douchebags, give the kid a chance.

Also, just so you idiots know, the {$DEFINE} shit is in almost every tutorial there is. The break shit is done by _Echo, which he made for ANYONE to use. A lot of it is from YoHoJo's tutorials, at least he's trying to learn.

Everyone copies and pastes from tutorials when they start to script, grow the fuck up.

Sin

2012-07-16 16:54:37


[2:28:48 PM] Shay: Why's everyone hating on Troll lol
[2:28:55 PM] Shay: He made a mistake, look past it
[2:29:02 PM] Shay: well 2 mistakes

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 16:59:37

was revenge for me. He hurled abuse at me on skype a few nights back so it's only justified in my books.

Doesn't mean it should stick as your opinion, but he shouldn't have been on his high horse about being a troll/'brony' kid who has issues

Joe

2012-07-16 17:10:23

From: xtrapsp
was revenge for me. He hurled abuse at me on skype a few nights back so it's only justified in my books.

Doesn't mean it should stick as your opinion, but he shouldn't have been on his high horse about being a troll/'brony' kid who has issues


Yeah the whole brony thing kind of makes me puke
EDIT: Doesn't mean I don't like the guy
I've been PMing with this guy for a while about helping him script, so you guys should give him a chance. He's a nice guy. You guys were all just raining on him

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 17:20:49

From: Joe
Yeah the whole brony thing kind of makes me puke
EDIT: Doesn't mean I don't like the guy
I've been PMing with this guy for a while about helping him script, so you guys should give him a chance. He's a nice guy. You guys were all just raining on him


After being a douche to me a few nights ago infront of other people i have no respect for him. He's not mouthy the moment i square up to him

feel free to like him but i'm done with him

Home

2012-07-16 17:27:52

Can someone tell me the basic points, too tired to read whole thing. I appreciate thanks.

Edit. Ok I read it and all I can say.. Pathetic.
If you have problems with someone, talk him privately. Don't bully him in public, this is the result..

How old are you guys?

~Home

Abu

2012-07-16 17:29:42

Wow, you can guys can be real bullies…

Tbh, I copied and pasted that exact function from that exact tutorial in my first script. I have never manually typed in the define smart and srl stuff nor have i ever manually typed in the DeclarePlayers procedure, all have been copied and pasted.

Bully me why don't you.

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 17:31:31

From: Home
Can someone tell me the basic points, too tired to read whole thing. I appreciate thanks.

~Home


tl;dr

he was a dick to me a few days ago

i rip his script apart and show how it is ALL other peoples scripts etc
he rages a lot! gets mouthy.
everyone joins in.

NKN

2012-07-16 17:32:54

His whole script was copy/pasted.
He didn't know what any of it did.

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-16 17:35:49

From: xtrapsp
tl;dr

he was a dick to me a few days ago

i rip his script apart and show how it is ALL other peoples scripts etc
he rages a lot! gets mouthy.
everyone joins in.


Do you honestly enjoy doing that? You actually get satisfaction from that? I haven't written a Script intro, Player info, or Main Loop from scratch in years. I copied a script base and have been using that ever since.

What's so wrong with that? Don't lie and say you never copied pieces from scripts or tutorials.

P.S. I'm talking about your attitude in general, it's taken a turn downhill recently.

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 17:37:35

From: Kyle Undefined
Do you honestly enjoy doing that? You actually get satisfaction from that? I haven't written a Script intro, Player info, or Main Loop from scratch in years. I copied a script base and have been using that ever since.

What's so wrong with that? Don't lie and say you never copied pieces from scripts or tutorials.

P.S. I'm talking about your attitude in general, it's taken a turn downhill recently.


i hardly post on here now since skype, so my attitude cant have really gone down hill

Home

2012-07-16 17:39:47

From: Kyle Undefined
Do you honestly enjoy doing that? You actually get satisfaction from that? I haven't written a Script intro, Player info, or Main Loop from scratch in years. I copied a script base and have been using that ever since.

What's so wrong with that? Don't lie and say you never copied pieces from scripts or tutorials.

P.S. I'm talking about your attitude in general, it's taken a turn downhill recently.


Kyle has a huge point. I ALWAYS copy my template, If I can't find it on my computer I take a template from as example Kyle's scripts.

Most of those guys who bullied.. I don't wan't to say what I wan't.

~Home

Joe

2012-07-16 17:40:28

From: NKN
His whole script was copy/pasted.
He didn't know what any of it did.


I'm with Abu… I've never typed out the smart definition or any TPA's. And to be brutally honest…

I used the same TPA as Abu did in my Hill giant script.
I couldn't tell you the first thing about a TPA other than its a swirly color finder.
And to make things worse…. I applied with it to SRL members and got in :whistling:
I just use FindObj now because I can actually understand what it's doing and can use colors and uptext that would be useful rather than dickin around ACA for a half hour to find 1 color to define an entire object.

Give Troll some slack… he desperately wants to be an SRL member and with his determination hell probably make it…

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 17:42:08

I dont get it a few nights back he tears the hell out of me saying nasty stuff i do the same back and its the end of the world and we are all douche bags who were involved. it wasnt just the intro it was everything, he was writing stuff he didn't understand… but calling himself a scripter and then saying he didnt copy paste so it was a blatent lie.

Abu

2012-07-16 17:42:41

From: xtrapsp
my attitude cant have really gone down hill


Well then you better edit some of your recent posts…



From: xtrapsp
but calling himself a scripter and then saying he didnt copy paste so it was a blatent lie.


He didn't once call himself a scripter, he kept repeating that he was 'learning'

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-16 17:42:57

From: xtrapsp
i hardly post on here now since skype, so my attitude cant have really gone down hill


Yeah, I know, it's posts like these I'm talking about.

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1069135#post1069135
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1067687#post1067687
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1067679#post1067679
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1067669#post1067669

Could post more, but this gets my point across.

Posts like these is why new users think that SRL Members are just complete assholes.

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 17:46:16

From: Kyle Undefined
Yeah, I know, it's posts like these I'm talking about.

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1069135#post1069135
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1067687#post1067687
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1067679#post1067679
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1067669#post1067669

Could post more, but this gets my point across.

Posts like these is why new users think that SRL Members are just complete assholes.


ok the one on my thread. I was fedup of stupid kids complaining my script was broken when its not. they're lazy.

and k i'l stop laughing at kids for being complete and utter spamming idiots

masterBB

2012-07-16 17:48:08

A variable with as type a 32bit signed integer, holds a number between -2^31 to 2^31 -1. Your question about what is an integer wasn't fair since you might not know it either. He answered it right imo.

I read through 50% of it and didn't found anything he did wrong. Please state the few points where you can prove he stole something. Also next time, it might be a smarter move if you find traces of plagiarism to report it to the staff in a nice and clear report.

Gala

2012-07-16 17:54:45

Wow, another public flaming thread :/
This action was really dismissive, couldn't you at least delete his full name? (In case it is, I would be upset in his place)

Edit: A few SRL members aren't even that mature xXTrollXx is. (And I remember he was something like 14?). Even worse, they get arrogant and think they are something better because of their new yellow name :)

Nebula

2012-07-16 17:56:22

One day he'll be twice as knowledgeable as you Shay.

Sin

2012-07-16 17:58:51

Erm………………….?
I didn't troll him at all? Do you see me saying a single word against him? Like seriously.

Ashaman88

2012-07-16 17:58:54

From: Kyle Undefined
Wow, get the fuck over yourselves. I'm tired of your shitty attitudes thinking you're so high and fucking mighty. Stop being douchebags, give the kid a chance.

Also, just so you idiots know, the {$DEFINE} shit is in almost every tutorial there is. The break shit is done by _Echo, which he made for ANYONE to use. A lot of it is from YoHoJo's tutorials, at least he's trying to learn.

Everyone copies and pastes from tutorials when they start to script, grow the fuck up.


+1 no reason to bully in this community.

masterBB

2012-07-16 18:04:23

I am not from the staff, and I will not pretend I am from the staff. But please don't start attacking each other. Only SSRL + can give warnings and correction. You can judge this action but not the person doing it. Don't attack xtraps, shay or xxtrolxx without reason. Can somebody post some real evidence here of script stealing or is it just 'baked air' as we like to call it in the Netherlands.

xtrapsp

2012-07-16 18:05:39

get off shays ass he did nothing wrong

Sin

2012-07-16 18:08:40

From: masterBB
I am not from the staff, and I will not pretend I am from the staff. But please don't start attacking each other. Only SSRL + can give warnings and correction. You can judge this action but not the person doing it. Don't attack xtraps, shay or xxtrolxx without reason. Can somebody post some real evidence here of script stealing or is it just 'baked air' as we like to call it in the Netherlands.


And NKN lol..
If I get a infraction, i'll get temp banned :p

Runaway

2012-07-16 18:10:25

Well, I'm disappointed that Troll is being treated this way… everyone makes mistakes, you don't need to humiliate him for being human.

Harry

2012-07-16 18:13:11

From: Shay
Erm………………….?
I didn't troll him at all? Do you see me saying a single word against him? Like seriously.

Yeah you did, you made this retarded thread about him.

Piss off you lot, pretty much all of you on that Skype channel are acting so pathetic. Grow up.

Sin

2012-07-16 18:14:16

From: Harry
Yeah you did, you made this retarded thread about him.

Piss off you lot, pretty much all of you on that Skype channel are acting so pathetic. Grow up.


Re read what I said please, you're not answering my question.

Gala

2012-07-16 18:16:31

From: Shay
Erm………………….?
I didn't troll him at all? Do you see me saying a single word against him? Like seriously.


Not a word, but a smiley :)

> :duh:

Harry

2012-07-16 18:17:28

From: Shay
Re read what I said please, you're not answering my question.

Are you blind? Here you go!: http://puu.sh/J73L.png

I don't care at all what was said in the chat, I scrolled through it for a couple seconds and closed it. The fact you make this terrible thread just shows how immature you are.

Sin

2012-07-16 18:21:56

From: Harry
Are you blind? Here you go!: http://puu.sh/J73L.png

I don't care at all what was said in the chat, I scrolled through it for a couple seconds and closed it. The fact you make this terrible thread just shows how immature you are.


I created this thread to further solidify the fact that he plaguerized the script.

Brandon

2012-07-16 18:24:09

It's in the members section. He can't see it at least but I think you guys treated him bad. Lucky it's not public at least. Someone delete it -_-.

Besides not like he stole any of your scripts anyway.. It's a one time thing and meh I see him trying at least. In fact I myself save a default.simba file so everytime I open Simba, there's going to be a nice setup. I think everyone does this so even if he doesn't understand the code YET doesn't mean he stole it.

Not like he applied to members with the code in question. I'm too lazy to even read the first line. It's pastebin.

P.S. I'm assuming it's the runespan script. I wouldn't even consider such a thing a copy paste :S

Gala

2012-07-16 18:26:42

From: Brandon
It's in the members section. He can't see it at least but I think you guys treated him bad. Lucky it's not public at least. Someone delete it -_-.

Besides not like he stole any of your scripts anyway.. It's a one time thing and meh I see him trying at least. In fact I myself save a default.simba file so everytime I open Simba, there's going to be a nice setup. I think everyone does this so even if he doesn't understand the code YET doesn't mean he stole it.

Not like he applied to members with the code in question. I'm too lazy to even read the first line. It's pastebin.


This. I think most of the people are learning by copy & pasting and modifying the script slightly.

Did he post the script as his own work or something? How much of it is copy & pasted?
If he didn't, there is absolutely no point to make such a thread.

Brandon

2012-07-16 18:32:34

From: Gala
This. I think most of the people are learning by copy & pasting and modifying the script slightly.

Did he post the script as his own work or something? How much of it is copy & pasted?
If he didn't, there is absolutely no point to make such a thread.


I think this is the script: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85783

It's so short! :S I read a bit of the pastebin and just picked out the links.

Gala

2012-07-16 18:35:45

From: Brandon
I think this is the script: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85783

It's so short! :S I read a bit of the pastebin and just picked out the links.


Well, I scrolled through the pastebin. He copied stuff from a cow fighter script for a runespan script?

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-16 18:40:33

What good did you think would come from a thread like this? This just shows people being an asshole to one person. If you don't like someone, you can block them on Skype. I'm adding him back when I get home.

masterBB

2012-07-16 18:55:20

From: Brandon
I think this is the script: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85783

It's so short! :S I read a bit of the pastebin and just picked out the links.


It even is in the development lounge. I truly thinks he wants to learn how to create a good script. We should support him in what he is doing.

Frement

2012-07-16 19:10:58

Every community gets shittier over time. Solution: invite only.

masterBB

2012-07-16 19:14:03

From: Frement
Every community gets shittier over time. Solution: invite only.


No I believe it doesn't. It comes with waves and tides. Sometimes you will have a lot of these threads, sometimes you don't. It is also our memory, of everything being better in the past, completely forgetting we also had our problems then.

Frement

2012-07-16 19:24:37

From: masterBB
No I believe it doesn't. It comes with waves and tides. Sometimes you will have a lot of these threads, sometimes you don't. It is also our memory, of everything being better in the past, completely forgetting we also had our problems then.


True, true…

Personally I can't understand this crying, bullying and screaming, too much noobs :(

mika

2012-07-16 19:42:22

My thought on this, first of all I have no clue wat this is about., lol. Second of all this is hilarious to see everyone argue, thou then again I have no clue wat this is about. I just read most of the posts here. As far as I'm concerned I see absolutely nothing wrong in copy and pasting.I do it almost always ,thou I do know wot it does and i always credit and sometimes even get permission. Keep arguing this is rather entertaining.

Noob King

2012-07-16 19:48:59

As every one else has mentioned, I copy my template every time. Why be so rude to the kid? Its not like you were just born with all the know hows of scripting. Everyone has to start somewhere, and at least he is trying to learn and not just leech like the other 14 yr olds.

Frement

2012-07-16 19:56:34

From: mika
Keep arguing this is rather entertaining.


Arguments are always entertaining :)

Also, I thought xxtrollxx or whatever was banned?

Kave

2012-07-16 20:10:04

I think you'd be suprised how many people learned to script through using bits and pieces of public scripts. Give the troll a break.

Bam Bam

2012-07-16 20:17:07

You guys call yourselves SRL members and yet you behave like this.. Clearly none of you remember what it was like when Kaitnieks.com closed and the entire SCAR (now Simba) community fragmented or you'd all appreciate SRL Forums a little more.

When I joined this forum I was one among about 100 of the most elite devs. I was a total noob then, and in some respects I still am. However, they all did one thing very well; my skill set of nothing but a desire to learn was welcomed and as a result I felt as if I was part of a family. Hopefully for some of you this place feels the same as it did years ago - a home online.

I haven't read page two of this thread yet but it's clear that the newest members don't share with each other that same level of respect that I as a new SRL member appreciated so much. Have some respect guys, for yourselves and everyone you're working with. Review the SRL mission statement and decide how you can best make your own contributions. Not everyone has to script to be helpful but do at least try to be friendly and respect one another because if you don't manage to keep that we'll lose everything that makes us SRL. There are other forums that have talented scriptwriters and programmers, but I've never found another where everyone is as respectful and intellectual as here at SRL.

-Bam Bam

Joe

2012-07-16 20:33:53

From: masterBB
It even is in the development lounge. I truly thinks he wants to learn how to create a good script. We should support him in what he is doing.


I am… he PM's me for help sometimes.
And he is getting better. He does want to become a better scripter and he is sorry for the plageurism. He's turning over a new leaf and we should all respect that. NVM the whole brony thing, he's a nice guy. Everyone should be showing everyone respect.
The SRL member title only means not only means you can script, it means that you are a good addition to the community. Some members are not being such good members of the community. We are supposed to be downtalking the registered users because they HAVE messed up. We should be helping them to become better.
I am proud of helping the odd person regardless of status.

My input.

~Joe