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Jmod says there is no actual "nuke"


321

2012-07-14 11:35:47

I didn't believe it at first, but there's no actual nuke. a JMOD states it's an on-going battle and optimus was implemented in may to improve performance and help them in the battle against bots.

take a look for yourselves..

25-26-818-63854330



if you're too lazy too look at the quick find code:


Unfortunately there isn't a bot nuke eta I can give you as it's an ongoing process/battle that is being fought everyday. Our platform 'Optimus', that was released in may, has been improving in-game performance as well as combating existing bots.



edit: another post by "mod mat"

Hey guys,

We completely understand the negative impact on the game bots are having for us all, and I assure you we are working on removing them from our game. However this is a lengthy war between both bot developers and ourselves and takes a considerable amount of development time to change our engine and implement measures to prevent botting.

We could tackle this on a day to day basis, but this would essentially have no real impact on the bots in game, and although it may not seem as though we are doing anything we are working away in the background to implement measures which don't just ban or stop players who are botting, but instead preventing bots from being able to run in the game, period.

As a last note, the Technical Help forums is not a place to rant about bots in game. We all know they exist and posting your opinions on what you think Jagex is or isn't doing about them will not help the process any further. If you have any technical issues or cannot get into the game then please don't hesitate to ask as we will help you as much as we can, however when it comes to bots it all turns into a big rant thread, when there are forums specifically allocated for this.

Thanks,

Sin

2012-07-14 11:37:33

Nice copy and paste from my thread lmao..

321

2012-07-14 11:38:28

From: Shay
Nice copy and paste from my thread lmao..


i have't even looked at your thread….


i actually saw it on pb..

Caotom

2012-07-14 11:48:27

I must say the guy that responded to it is hilarious, he thinks that Jagex with their finite resources can actually permanently take down bots, ban all current bots and ban most mains that are connected to them. :O Genius!
Well he got well and truly shut down by a forum mod.

~Caotom

Jos3ph

2012-07-14 11:53:11

Hmmm so I wonder what everyone is going to do when it comes to all the items they stocked up on planning for the nuke, lol.

321

2012-07-14 11:54:49

From: po2n star
Hmmm so I wonder what everyone is going to do when it comes to all the items they stocked up on planning for the nuke, lol.


yeah, guessing everybody will be dumping d bones, frost etc…

great time to get 95 prayer :D

Jos3ph

2012-07-14 12:11:35

From: 321
yeah, guessing everybody will be dumping d bones, frost etc…

great time to get 95 prayer :D


I had nearly 9k drag bones and I was pissed when I seen the price of them.

321

2012-07-14 12:18:04

From: po2n star
I had nearly 9k drag bones and I was pissed when I seen the price of them.


well, i guess you bought them cheapish, you may aswell just use them (if you don't already have 99 prayer)

Rincewind

2012-07-14 12:30:46

This makes sense. By putting in updates easier using the OPtius platform, bots will need to constantly update thereby meaning there is a constant cat and mouse thing going on.

Rezozo

2012-07-14 12:34:50

Screw Dragon bones, regular Bones FTWz!

About 300k :P

blinkblink

2012-07-14 12:42:55

OP learn to read…
it clearly says:
"there isn't a bot nuke eta I can give you"
There isn't an estimated time of arrival of when the Botnuke will be released

321

2012-07-14 12:49:55

From: blinkblink
OP learn to read…
it clearly says:
"there isn't a bot nuke eta I can give you"
There isn't an estimated time of arrival of when the Botnuke will be released


it also states "optimus" was released in may, so that obviously means there is no "bot nuke" called optimus.

who needs to learn how to read?

blinkblink

2012-07-14 12:59:45

From: 321
it also states "optimus" was released in may, so that obviously means there is no "bot nuke" called optimus.

who needs to learn how to read?


Nowhere did I mention Optimus being called a botnuke…
Hmm I obviously know that ever since Jacmob said back in May "Optimus is not a change to the game engine itself, but a library that allows us to develop fixes to these sorts of issues very quickly"

Learn to read there will be a botnuke.. the mods simply cannot give you an ETA - so stop think that it is not coming.

Flight

2012-07-14 13:04:03

From: 321
it also states "optimus" was released in may, so that obviously means there is no "bot nuke" called optimus.

who needs to learn how to read?


Optimus is their newest software, it's not the name of a nuke. It'll now be easier for them to install anti-bot features, from what I've heard, on the fly. That doesn't mean they won't be using Optimus to launch something big soon and resulting in a mass ban.

LemonHaze

2012-07-14 13:04:17

lmao, jacmob lied again it seems.

321

2012-07-14 13:09:31

From: blinkblink
Nowhere did I mention Optimus being called a botnuke…
Hmm I obviously know that ever since Jacmob said back in May "Optimus is not a change to the game engine itself, but a library that allows us to develop fixes to these sorts of issues very quickly"

Learn to read there will be a botnuke.. the mods simply cannot give you an ETA - so stop think that it is not coming.


ok, well firstly, calm the f*ck down..

secondly, it's not just me who says there's not nuke, from looking at the text, many people believe there's no nuke.

thirdly, there's no nuke "eta" so even if there is one, it's not any time soon so we don't need to worry..

blinkblink

2012-07-14 13:20:17

From: 321
ok, well firstly, calm the f*ck down..

secondly, it's not just me who says there's not nuke, from looking at the text, many people believe there's no nuke.

thirdly, there's no nuke "eta" so even if there is one, it's not any time soon so we don't need to worry..


It is coming so stop being ignorant.. clearly an ETA = it will come, just no exact date is given. Unless you do a "jacmob" like he did after cluster futter make a fake counter just to make them believe a fixed client was being released :P

Also they not mentioning an ETA could also be for the Bot Developers not to know when its coming and hit us blind. Anyways we still have no idea how we(color) will be affected besides the recent nav bar change that did affect us a bit which is fixable… but it is 100% injection bots will go down for a while

illuminatiswag

2012-07-14 13:31:31

From: 321
ok, well firstly, calm the f*ck down..

secondly, it's not just me who says there's not nuke, from looking at the text, many people believe there's no nuke.

thirdly, there's no nuke "eta" so even if there is one, it's not any time soon so we don't need to worry..


What crawled up your ass and died calm down sir no need to get all madbro over this he clearly says there IS a botnuke he just cant give a ETA nuff said.

Brandon

2012-07-14 14:21:49

LOL.. all I see is a bunch of speculation. No one can say "There is a bot nuke.. it's just not here yet"..

That's like saying cars can fly.. just in 2050 not right now.

Come on now.. I'm tired of seeing the shitty optimus this, optimus that threads. Omg bot nuke this, bot nuke that. Really now? That all being said, this thread was totally useless as with all the others talking about the nuke. When it comes, if it comes, we'll know because we won't be able to bot. Simple as that. If we can still bot, it's not a nuke.

Sin

2012-07-14 14:34:14

I wouldn't take 321 seriously, blinkblink
http://villavu.com/forum/member.php?u=100419
He's banned already :rolleyes:

321

2012-07-14 14:43:05

ok, well clearly you nerds are getting mad, i don't really care. just thought i'd be friendly and share this news

have fun raging!

Toby1

2012-07-14 14:51:18

I can't believe it, lol

321

2012-07-14 15:00:05

From: illuminatiswag
What crawled up your ass and died calm down sir no need to get all madbro over this he clearly says there IS a botnuke he just cant give a ETA nuff said.


so that's why you have negative reputation…

and by the first bit, are you saying a did a bad fart or something because that is when that phrase is usually used…

nice one retard!

Sin

2012-07-14 15:11:57

From: 321
so that's why you have negative reputation…

and by the first bit, are you saying a did a bad fart or something because that is when that phrase is usually used…

nice one retard!


So this is why you're banned…

321

2012-07-14 16:44:20

From: Shay
So this is why you're banned…


why's your rep disabled sin?


edit: sorry, just remembered, nobody likes you..

Wizzup?

2012-07-14 17:12:34

It would be nice if they fixed their safemode client though.

shstiger2009

2012-07-14 17:15:53

From: Wizzup?
It would be nice if they fixed their safemode client though.


True that. Even when your fix comes out in the actual client, we'll still have to use other functions in some cases because of this glitch.

Trent!

2012-07-14 18:04:27

QFC is 25-26-368-63605929, page 94-96


Kyle Undefined

2012-07-14 18:20:35

Why do people have to rage at others for no reason? It's getting annoying. We are NOT PB/RSB/RiD/etc. Take the attitude there.

I still haven't logged in yet, but I want to see the item glitch.

Benny

2012-07-14 20:12:58

From: Kyle Undefined
Why do people have to rage at others for no reason? It's getting annoying. We are NOT PB/RSB/RiD/etc. Take the attitude there.

I still haven't logged in yet, but I want to see the item glitch.


no you don't it's horrible >.<

P1ng

2012-07-14 20:28:43

Unfortunately there isn't a bot nuke eta I can give you as it's an ongoing process/battle that is being fought everyday. Our platform 'Optimus', that was released in may, has been improving in-game performance as well as combating existing bots.


This would suggest to me that they will be implementing lots of regular changes/updates to make botting harder with the use of the optimus system. This doesn't necessarily rule out that one of them will be a big one or 'bot-nuke' so to speak.

Realistically jagex are giving away as little information as possible to keep their paying customers happy (or not, as it so happens). So all posts/threads about this are just speculation and seriously not worth having a flame war over.

321

2012-07-14 20:36:17

From: p1ng
This would suggest to me that they will be implementing lots of regular changes/updates to make botting harder with the use of the optimus system. This doesn't necessarily rule out that one of them will be a big one or 'bot-nuke' so to speak.

Realistically jagex are giving away as little information as possible to keep their paying customers happy (or not, as it so happens). So all posts/threads about this are just speculation and seriously not worth having a flame war over.


i was just trying to keep people updating and people got mad :/

Joe

2012-07-14 23:06:14

From: 321
why's your rep disabled sin?


edit: sorry, just remembered, nobody likes you..


I like him! He's the coolest nub on these forums. And stuff..

How to set up bot?

Trent!

2012-07-15 00:02:24

J Mods actually say nuke.. so..


Quick find code: 14-15-644-63869840

321

2012-07-15 07:31:39

i'm just lol'ing at how much hate this thread has got, and then people will go and bitch about how bad pb is.

meh, i prefer pb, better scripts, friendlier people…


LET THE RAGING COMMENCE!

Flight

2012-07-15 09:06:31

From: 321
i'm just lol'ing at how much hate this thread has got, and then people will go and bitch about how bad pb is.

meh, i prefer pb, better scripts, friendlier people…


LET THE RAGING COMMENCE!


I believe the only one 'raging' here is you pal. Let's take a look:

From: 321
ok, well firstly, calm the f*ck down..

secondly, it's not just me who says there's not nuke, from looking at the text, many people believe there's no nuke.

thirdly, there's no nuke "eta" so even if there is one, it's not any time soon so we don't need to worry..


From: 321
ok, well clearly you nerds are getting mad, i don't really care. just thought i'd be friendly and share this news

have fun raging!


From: 321
so that's why you have negative reputation…

and by the first bit, are you saying a did a bad fart or something because that is when that phrase is usually used…

nice one retard!


From: 321
why's your rep disabled sin?


edit: sorry, just remembered, nobody likes you..


It's obvious you fall into the "powerbot crowd". If all the people from PB act like you do then I'll consider my decision to stay away from that community a good one.

321

2012-07-15 09:17:31

From: Flight
I believe the only one 'raging' here is you pal. Let's take a look:









It's obvious you fall into the "powerbot crowd". If all the people from PB act like you do then I'll consider my decision to stay away from that community a good one.


nah, i discovered SRL before powerbot. also, "nexpb" is from powerbot, he's created some pretty cool scripts on SRL and Powerbot, just thought i'd let you know..

Caotom

2012-07-15 10:23:35

From: 321
nah, i discovered SRL before powerbot.


Simply because you discovered SRL first does not make you primarily part of the SRL community. I will not generalise ALL PB community members but many that I have seen have similar attitudes to yours, that is a fairly aggressive one with the notion that you seem to right 99.95% of the time. This is simply what I have seen from this thread and I hope that you and the rest of the pb community can prove me wrong.

~Caotom

321

2012-07-15 10:32:31

From: Caotom
Simply because you discovered SRL first does not make you primarily part of the SRL community. I will not generalise ALL PB community members but many that I have seen have similar attitudes to yours, that is a fairly aggressive one with the notion that you seem to right 99.95% of the time. This is simply what I have seen from this thread and I hope that you and the rest of the pb community can prove me wrong.

~Caotom


seems fair, personally i don't care what you think of me or powerbot, it's your opinion. i've been at powerbot now for a week or so, people seem quite friendly, they know how to have a laugh and admins are quite laid back, they allow you to say what you wish. i guess that could be seen as a bad thing but personally, that's what i prefer. i don't come to these forums because i have too, i come because i find it fun and entertaining, but anything you do you get flamed for, i argue back, get given infraction points by "flight". still not sure why…

anyways, my main point is, i guess people in this forum are a bit more serious, they take everything like it's there jobs, mods such as "zyt3x" don't know how to have a laugh, all he does is ban people and close threads. whereas powerbot is alot more entertaining, more interesting threads, not just about botting. and you don't get called a "noob" all the time just because you have a low post count, or you simply don't want to create a script.

i'm not sure where it has come from that powerbot is so bad, i find people more aggressive on this forum (although i may have come across has aggressive in this thread, it's due to the fact: somebody called me, i called them back, i got infraction points, they didn't) i don't flame, if people don't flame me, simple as really. as already stated, people aren't aggressive on powerbot they are just more laid back..

Flight

2012-07-15 13:25:29

It's not a matter of taking a joke, it's how you're applying it. Maybe you've seen some of my posts in random places of me talking really bad about maybe Daniel, or Grats, or YoHoJo. These are all really good friends of mine, they know whatever insults I throw their way it's for laughs, and chances are they retaliate. :p

That's a difference between you and the rest of us. Our jokes aren't intended to hurt, but everything I've seen you type is an attack towards someone. I don't know how things are there at Powerbot, but from every community I've been a part of people like that are really looked down upon, and in most cases pay the price for it. Even Sythe, while being a nesting ground for scamming and such, has strict rules against flaming, and they won't think twice about banning anyone for the slightest hint of it. You can bet that.

No body is forcing you to be here, if you feel like you fit in better at PB then obviously the choice is yours, and no hard feelings. But if you're gonna hang around here you need to understand that flaming other people isn't proving anything. You'll find most of us are super easy to get along with, and I'm personally hoping you'll be the same way. I'd much rather see you stick around and lighten up than simply give up and go back to PB…

321

2012-07-15 14:33:34

From: Flight
It's not a matter of taking a joke, it's how you're applying it. Maybe you've seen some of my posts in random places of me talking really bad about maybe Daniel, or Grats, or YoHoJo. These are all really good friends of mine, they know whatever insults I throw their way it's for laughs, and chances are they retaliate. :p

That's a difference between you and the rest of us. Our jokes aren't intended to hurt, but everything I've seen you type is an attack towards someone. I don't know how things are there at Powerbot, but from every community I've been a part of people like that are really looked down upon, and in most cases pay the price for it. Even Sythe, while being a nesting ground for scamming and such, has strict rules against flaming, and they won't think twice about banning anyone for the slightest hint of it. You can bet that.

No body is forcing you to be here, if you feel like you fit in better at PB then obviously the choice is yours, and no hard feelings. But if you're gonna hang around here you need to understand that flaming other people isn't proving anything. You'll find most of us are super easy to get along with, and I'm personally hoping you'll be the same way. I'd much rather see you stick around and lighten up than simply give up and go back to PB…



that's the thing though, as i said in my previous post, i only flame if people flame me. the guy stated "something crawled up my ass and died" which is flame, therefore i flamed back in return and i was the one who gets punished. i'm basically being discriminated because i'm not a "srl member" or whatever, and that's what's wrong with these forums..

holysin

2012-07-15 17:35:59

so.. much .. rage

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-15 17:36:21

No you're not, your attitude is what's causing it, and nothing else. If someone flames you, you don't have to flame back. It's called being the bigger man.

This thread has been taken way off topic. I believe there will be a nuke.

holysin

2012-07-16 11:23:35

so im a twat for saying you are raging….
grow up

Gu3st...

2012-08-04 10:54:00

I can see why you were banned the first time, 321..

Also, saying I don't have humor? I'm laughing at "321 - Suspended User" right about now. How's that for humor?

E: I understand why you don't like me, but insulting people, me included wont help your cause.

Rincewind

2012-08-04 11:37:22

So back on topic….

Is it worth it to invest items then?

jackhill6

2012-08-04 11:49:53

From: Zyt3x
I can see why you were banned the first time, 321..

Also, saying I don't have humor? I'm laughing at "321 - Suspended User" right about now. How's that for humor?

E: I understand why you don't like me, but insulting people, me included wont help your cause.


lolz


mod getting butthurt

[XoL]

2012-08-04 12:18:57

From: vaporak10
So back on topic….

Is it worth it to invest items then?


I say not, once this "spreads" people will mass spam the market with their saved items.

jackhill6

2012-08-04 12:31:54

From: R4nd0m
I say not, once this "spreads" people will mass spam the market with their saved items.


btw, there is still a nuke.

prices for everything are still gonna' get messed up :/

wister1

2012-08-04 12:53:36

i wouldnt worry about the nuke, im more worried about the new combat update and how it will influence the market