Dungeoneering: The Basics.
Hello guys, with the release of iDungeon as a free script (for now :rolleyes:), alot of people have been wondering what to do in Dungeoneering. This guide will show you what binds to use, what floors to do, and what settings to use.This is NOT an indepth guide on Dungeoneering, it's a beginners guide.
Table Of Contents
Comic Sans MS! You Mad Comic Sans haters? (Kyle <3)Section 1: Binds
i: What are Binds?
ii: What Binds are the best for me?
iii: Future Binds?
Section 2: Floors
i: Prestige
ii: Which floors should I do?
Section 3: iDungeon Settings:
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Section 1: BindsWhat are Binds?When a player enters a dungeon, they start off with NO items. Binds exempt that rule. When a player finds an item that they would like to keep, they can right click and choose the Bind option to keep the item throughout their dungeoneering experience. The amount of binds vary from levels 1 to 120. Refer to this table for more information.
Once an item is bound, the player will always begin the dungeon with said item(s).
What binds are best for me?The quality of your binds vary on how many you have. For example, someone with 1-49 Dungeoneering would be better off with a weapon rather than something like a Shadow Silk Hood.
From 1-49 Dungeoneering i'd recommend the best available 2 Handed sword to you.
For example, if I were 90 Attack, i'd want a Promethium 2H. There is one exception to this though. If you are 99 Attack, you'd be better off binding a Primal Battleaxe rather than a Promethium 2H as the Primal 2H (a big black, long sword ;D) is only available at 113 Dungeoneering. The Primal Battleaxe has a proven higher DPS (Damage Per Second) than a Promethium 2H.
From 50-99 Dungeoneering, there're a few choices for secondary binds. Here is the tier system (rated from 3bo, one of the best Dungeoneering clans).
Hexhunter Bow >
Blood Necklace >
Shadow Silk Hood > Highest Platebody
Descriptions of the items:
Hexhunter Bow:
An absolute beast of a weapon, probably one of the best and rarest items in the Dungeoneering skill. It's dropped by a Soulgazer, which requires level 99 Slayer to kill. It hits harder against mages and certain bosses.
Blood Necklace:
Heals you when you're near other monsters, however you need to be close to them.
Shadow Silk Hood:
The antichrist to the Blood Necklace, it keeps you AWAY from monsters.
It virtually renders you invisible to humanoid monsters.
From 100-119 Dungeoneering, I'd recommend you to bind the strongest platebody you can along with one of the above items, as well as a main weapon. Fairly simple here.
120 Dungeoneering: Anything!
Ammo Binds -
Along with weapon binds, Dungeoneering offers something called Ammo Binds. These are different than the weapon binds and they have a limit of 125. You can bind anything which is classified as ammo, such as Runes (Cosmic, Laws, Deaths, Airs etc..), Arrows (Sagittarian, Promethium, Gorgonite), and a highly recommended bind if you don't have a Hexhunter Bow, the Celestial Surgebox.
The Celestial Surgebox can store 125 casts of either a Wind Surge or Wind Wave.
It is worth noting that after the completion of Salt In The Wound quest, your ammo cap rises to 225, rather than 125.
The quest is a really simple feat to accomplish, taking less than 30 minutes.
Future BindsAlways plan ahead! You'll learn on your way (if you legit dung ;)) to what binds are good for you. Experiment with what works best for you. However, always make sure that a Primal 2H and a Hexhunter Bow are binds for you. They're hands down the BEST binds any dungeoneerer could have.
Section 2: FloorsPrestigeIn RSWiki's Defintion:
Prestige is a mechanism in Dungeoneering that contributes to determining how much experience the player is given. It is one of the biggest factors that determine how much Dungeoneering experience one gets, along with the dungeon floor's base experience. It is designed to prevent constant reraiding of the same floor by offering 50% less xp.
The general concept of prestige: for maximum experience, do every floor available at your dungeoneering level once and only once, then reset your progress and repeat. Prestige is used to calculate the base experience you receive when completing a floor. The average of the dungeon floor's experience and the experience value of your current Prestige becomes the base experience that you receive for that floor.
Prestige is hands down one of the most important things to use in Dungeoneering! Do NOT skip ANY floors, do ALL of them!
Which floors should I do?By which floors should you do, I mean that which floors should you C1 rush, and which floors you should C6 Small/Med. The higher the complexity, the bigger the experience reward at the end.
Until 69 (-.-) or so Dungeoneering, you should do EVERY floor at a C6 level, this'll allow you to obtain maximum experience. However, once you unlock the Abandoned 2 theme, your xp will shoot up drastically. So my answer is to do all floors up till floor 25 (when you're 70 Dungeoneering, floor 30 once you've unlocked the Occult theme) at the C1 complexity, and C6 5:5 (or bot :rolleyes:) the rest! This'll allow you to maximise your experience.
I'll write the botting part later on, once I take a look at iDungeon's settings :)
There are a few errors in here, please help me correct them!
I only copied the pictures :(
Hood sucks, platebody is def better than hood.
iBlank
2012-07-13 22:00:54
Awesome. Thank you very much for posting this.
From: Liimujx
Hood sucks, platebody is def better than hood.
Not necessarily, for people who bot, Hood > Platebody.
I guess it's all preference though :P
From: Shay
Not necessarily, for people who bot, Hood > Platebody.
I guess it's all preference though :P
Well when botting you will be the sole tanker, and iDungeon won't pray that much, so you will get wrecked by meleers and rangers, so I would say its better, but maybe the lower ur def lvl, hood would probably be better, like at 40-60 def.
From: Liimujx
Well when botting you will be the sole tanker, and iDungeon won't pray that much, so you will get wrecked by meleers and rangers, so I would say its better, but maybe the lower ur def lvl, hood would probably be better, like at 40-60 def.
Yeah that's what I meant, most people who are maxed melee won't be looking/needing this guide :p
Just asked 3bo Hood or Plate @ 50 Dung, majority of the answer was Hood.
Brandon
2012-07-13 22:08:19
From: Liimujx
Hood sucks, platebody is def better than hood.
This.. I got primal plate and hood binded but before I had a hood alone and it was so bad.. dungeons tend to have a ton of rangers and stuff. So I swapped my hood for a primal plate until I was 100 dung so now I got both.
Hood > Prom Plate.. That's more specific. Primal Plate > Hood, even on the trio and mercenary. And it's especially better on the skinweaver guys.
Chris Reborn
2012-07-13 22:16:21
so im 59 dung, should i get a bow as a secondary? i currently have my idung settings to not use a second att style. i have a prom 2h and prom plate binded. should i swap the palte for a bow? and just did my first legit dung! did a large in 45 mins for like 10k xp with 13 deaths!
Please help me? Nice guide but can you add what settings you should choose for the stats you have? Can you guys tell me the BEST SETTINGS for My stats the yellow block means there in there 10s like 8* means its in its EIGHTYS anyways can you tell me the best settings to maximize my exp/hr i have 1 binded 2h and other is a chainbody. Like explorer on or off etc. Prayer doors or not.
From: idodew
so im 59 dung, should i get a bow as a secondary? i currently have my idung settings to not use a second att style. i have a prom 2h and prom plate binded. should i swap the palte for a bow? and just did my first legit dung! did a large in 45 mins for like 10k xp with 13 deaths!
Unless it's a Hexhunter bow, do NOT switch.
From: Mtv
Please help me? Nice guide but can you add what settings you should choose for the stats you have? Can you guys tell me the BEST SETTINGS for My stats the yellow block means there in there 10s like 8* means its in its EIGHTYS anyways can you tell me the best settings to maximize my exp/hr i have 1 binded 2h and other is a chainbody. Like explorer on or off etc. Prayer doors or not.
Prayer doors defo. Just leave stock settings if you're not a pure.
Chris Reborn
2012-07-13 22:28:22
alright thanks. and just a tip, in the settings where there is some setting to keep it from attacking all the monsters in the dungeon keep that unticked so it just runs through. sped up my xp by like 5k :D and thanks shay. i got a prom plate like 20 mins ago to go with my prom 2h its way better die alot less now.
Thanks a lot.
Prestige stuff was KILLING my xp. I had like 1k tokens at 45 dung.
Lets offset that red rep you got.
Just one thing. You can bind ammo to yourself at no cost of a bind slot.
And my question, if I reset my prestige at say: 3 floors and my max was f25 and my prestige so far was 25. If I reset my ring, will I have a prestige of 3 or 25?
That sounds vague.. If I reset my ring after doing 3 floors when I previously prestiged 25, will my prestige go down or stay my best?
Great guide!
~Joe
Chris Reborn
2012-07-13 22:30:41
should i have it bind extra runes? that was my other question.
RIGHT. I forgot about ammo! I'll add that in now, thanks :D
From: Shay
RIGHT. I forgot about ammo! I'll add that in now, thanks :D
Yuuup… and my question???
And my question, if I reset my prestige at say: 3 floors and my max was f25 and my prestige so far was 25. If I reset my ring, will I have a prestige of 3 or 25?
You'll have a prestige of 3, not good :$
From: Shay
You'll have a prestige of 3, not good :$
Whew… was almost about to reset. Thanks!
kevin33
2012-07-13 23:00:42
Ok so this helped me realize I was making a mistake. I am f2p so my floor max is 35. So I should be rushing c1 til about 30 then do large 5:5's?
Before I was rushing c1 till like 15-20 then I would do larges with my friends.
I have 60 something dung (69 if I remember correctly) and have fractite plate and 2h bound to me with 125 law runes. I only have 32k tokens atm so ishould I be getting more xp and tokens?
Yes actually, did you spend tokens before? You should have enough for gravite @ level 65 ish
kevin33
2012-07-13 23:06:05
Spent some on xp but thats it. I had just over 40k at 65 so I guess whatever I was doing was right.
Chris Reborn
2012-07-13 23:46:36
should i have the runecraft option set? or do i not need it? im 99 rc so i dont care about xp… i want the settings to maxamise my dung xp nothing else.
Yes, it creates gatestones then, for the bot to tele to.
Luke L
2012-07-14 10:09:11
Very nice sin. I wrote an extensive version of this for pures, that used to be included in my maxed granite mailer guide.
When I get home later today I'll Skype you and you can include a "pure set up" to your original post.
Should I wear boss attack specific items?
Like if I'm against the shadowforger wear mage equipment to bounce his spells?
And a little list of the bosses' weaknesses would make life easy.
Jos3ph
2012-07-14 10:19:21
Great guide!
SeaBass
2012-07-14 10:31:35
Great Guide! I'm just waiting for all stats at 70 before I start up dung again
lilcmp1
2012-07-14 11:24:23
Looking for the addition of ammo, good guide
Caotom
2012-07-14 11:32:14
This guide is actually quiet useful to me, I was under the impression that you should to C1 rushes on all floors except the last 1 or 2 and then reset from level like 40 onwards, apparently not.
Would it be worth the effort finding a group for 1-69 c6 smalls? Or is solo good enough?
~Caotom
Endzior
2012-07-14 11:32:15
I'm close to 90~ range, only 60~ str/atk. Binds :
-fractite maul (for crush)
-spinebeam shortbow(better dps then longbow)
-125 fractite arrows
Works well for me. In f2p most of bosses are either stab or crush weak, so yeah.
Cerylin
2012-07-14 13:06:38
What about armour? If you only have 1 bind then that means you can't bind any armour i guess and so I keep on dying because the bot doesn't equip any armour during the floor. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong cuz i've never really understood dung.
Updating bind now, just typing out the rough draft :p
Austin
2012-07-14 13:11:20
Good Basics guide! I'm 114 dungeoneering atm and im maxed so my binds are primal 2h, primal pl8, blood necklace, and laws. Haven't been lucky enough to get a hexhunter bow yet =/. I'm not 99 slay myself so that doesn't help either :s.
Yeah so atm, i do c1 rushes for floors 1-30, sometimes to 35 (depends on if i feel like doing them or not, they are worth the exp though i guess if you can find a a good team easily). Then i do 36-57 c6 larges for great xp (on average about 105k xp per floor for 15-20 minutes, that's with 1 death on average too lol, I don't mind taking one for the team).
But with everybody learning to dung, good luck and have a fun time!
Mjordan
2012-07-14 14:23:23
Still very confused. I've never legit dung'd in my life, so all the terminology is still strange to me no matter how much I read.
I'm level 62 dung, what should I use for my binds? Help would be greatly appreciated!
Can you screenie me your stats? Just combat ones.
Mjordan
2012-07-14 14:48:17
I'd go with a Promethium 2H + a Shadow Silk Hood until you get 90 Defence, at which point you should get a Promethium plate.
Enjoi ^^
putonajonny
2012-07-14 14:58:04
What would you recommend as a secondary bind for f2p? A plate body?
Yes, afaik, platebodies are the only good secondary binds in f2p ^^
Mjordan
2012-07-14 15:06:01
From: Shay
I'd go with a Promethium 2H + a Shadow Silk Hood until you get 90 Defence, at which point you should get a Promethium plate.
Enjoi ^^
You the man! I won't be able to get those for a while though will I? Until a certain dungeoneering level I imagine?
From: Mjordan
You the man! I won't be able to get those for a while though will I? Until a certain dungeoneering level I imagine?
As far as I know, SSH's aren't that rare o.O
Promethium Platebodies aren't rare at all, as they can be smithed.
Chris Reborn
2012-07-14 15:51:07
im 99 att str def range mage pray hp and 64 dung. i have a prom platebody and a prom 2h. could you advise me on the best settings for idung itself? i think my gear is the best i could use though. if not please help me out haha.
Austin
2012-07-14 15:53:00
From: idodew
im 99 att str def range mage pray hp and 64 dung. i have a prom platebody and a prom 2h. could you advise me on the best settings for idung itself? i think my gear is the best i could use though. if not please help me out haha.
Sounds good to me
naturevalley
2012-07-14 16:08:01
Thanks for tips Shay, luckily I started off with a Kata 2H +1
white_lycan
2012-07-14 16:37:35
where are people getting idungeon from? i used to have it back in the day, if thats the one kiko made.
Benny
2012-07-14 17:18:54
Thanks bud really useful! :D
Benny
2012-07-14 17:22:01
From: white_lycan
where are people getting idungeon from? i used to have it back in the day, if thats the one kiko made.
powerbot…
LemonHaze
2012-07-14 18:08:08
nice guide! make an advanced dungeoneering guide too? :p
You don't need a guide if you're an Advanced Dungeoneerer :rolleyes:
LemonHaze
2012-07-14 18:15:18
true true, but some tricks and tips ect :p
I'll see what I can do :p
Hazzah
2012-07-14 19:12:03
Nice guide Sin! Personally, I wouldn't bind hood over platebody. Although I don't know anything about legit dungeoneering, hood is not as good as a plate when botting dung (35-99 with iDung is my experience)
white_lycan
2012-07-14 23:30:24
From: -Benny
Thanks bud really useful! :D
Ouch, thats a big risk im not sure im willing to take. :\
putonajonny
2012-07-15 05:38:54
Personally, I always have cosmic runes bound :) makes dungeon navigation so much quicker
From: Shay
Yes, afaik, platebodies are the only good secondary binds in f2p ^^
Actually
I have a frac 2h and a frac longsword
that way when i hit like a 200 and the guy is 5hp away, I pull out the longsword (because it has the best stats for 1 handed) and finish him off without having to wait for my 2h attack regen. IMO the platebody only adds a weakness as you become vulnerable to mages and you can find equipment everywhere.
Thats just my setup…
sometimes I go with both my accounts and the one has a plate and 2h and my main has the 2h and longsword. I just bomb meds and get dat tome of frost.
Gillzo
2012-07-15 12:25:32
primal plate or blood neck?
Depends on your other binds, you 100 DG?
Gillzo
2012-07-15 12:29:03
yh im 100+ atm my binds are primal plate, promo 2h, hex + arrows
Nah keep the Primal Plate since you have a Hex.
You need the defence against Rangers + Meelers, you can take out mages easily.
pulse0
2012-07-15 12:35:11
awsome guide. thanks alot, will help alot of the dung noobs like myself.
sorry to hear bout the neg rep, people are d*****bags, i dont see how this is copyed and pasted from the rs wikki… its like 10x diffrent then the wikki guide i have read in the past. alot more informative. +rep
Luke L
2012-07-16 11:58:06
Sin <333.
You obviously know my stats ;), but so i've been getting about 45-50k dung exp an hour on 6 hour runs (i've read somewhere that if you put your user/pass in the client, it'll bypass 6 hour. Have you got that to work?). I think I could get more because of two things i'm not doing..
1) Should I rush? You know i'm 115+ dung, should I rush like floors 1-30 on c1?
and,
2) If I set my quickprayer to turmoil, and have the bot use it, will that help my exp per hour? (Kiko says the bot handles the protection prayers on it's own and to set quickprayers as combat helping ones for the bot to use).
Thanks ye old dungeoneering master :biggrin:
From: Luke L
Sin <333.
You obviously know my stats ;), but so i've been getting about 45-50k dung exp an hour on 6 hour runs (i've read somewhere that if you put your user/pass in the client, it'll bypass 6 hour. Have you got that to work?). I think I could get more because of two things i'm not doing..
1) Should I rush? You know i'm 115+ dung, should I rush like floors 1-30 on c1?
and,
2) If I set my quickprayer to turmoil, and have the bot use it, will that help my exp per hour? (Kiko says the bot handles the protection prayers on it's own and to set quickprayers as combat helping ones for the bot to use).
Thanks ye old dungeoneering master :biggrin:
I know you're asking s1n, but I have the same dungoneering level as you and I compared runs with rushing and without and I found that not rushing is much better. And having turm quick pray will help a lot on bosses since the faster the kill, the less chance of death.
Mjordan
2012-07-16 14:34:07
Someone want to smith me a prom 2h pretty pleaseeee? :biggrin:
Luke L
2012-07-16 14:48:40
From: Liimujx
I know you're asking s1n, but I have the same dungoneering level as you and I compared runs with rushing and without and I found that not rushing is much better. And having turm quick pray will help a lot on bosses since the faster the kill, the less chance of death.
Ok thanks :)!
From: Mjordan
Someone want to smith me a prom 2h pretty pleaseeee? :biggrin:
No offense but I dont meet anybody in game for safety reasons. But I'm sure someone in dung smith cc will
Mjordan
2012-07-16 16:04:50
From: Luke L
No offense but I dont meet anybody in game for safety reasons. But I'm sure someone in dung smith cc will
Well no danger here if you reconsider lol. I don't believe I'm a mod or anything :p
Luke L
2012-07-16 16:44:58
From: Mjordan
Well no danger here if you reconsider lol. I don't believe I'm a mod or anything :p
Haha I know considering your a SRL member and all lol, I'm just overly cautious :p!!
OT: anyone able to beat the 6 hour timer with idung?
Mjordan
2012-07-16 17:54:03
From: Luke L
Haha I know considering your a SRL member and all lol, I'm just overly cautious :p!!
OT: anyone able to beat the 6 hour timer with idung?
If you have an iPhone or Android powered phone then just set up teamviewer and manually restart it every 6 hours. It's completely free and is quite amazing.
The 6 hour limit is fixed in powerbot by adding your rs account. But to be safe I would not do that in case they steal passwords. Just manually log in and restart it every 6 hours.
Austin
2012-07-16 17:57:59
From: Mjordan
If you have an iPhone or Android powered phone then just set up teamviewer and manually restart it every 6 hours. It's completely free and is quite amazing.
The 6 hour limit is fixed in powerbot by adding your rs account. But to be safe I would not do that in case they steal passwords. Just manually log in and restart it every 6 hours.
That's what I always used when I was away from home for awhile :p Teamviewer ftw!
Luke L
2012-07-16 18:10:49
From: Mjordan
If you have an iPhone or Android powered phone then just set up teamviewer and manually restart it every 6 hours. It's completely free and is quite amazing.
The 6 hour limit is fixed in powerbot by adding your rs account. But to be safe I would not do that in case they steal passwords. Just manually log in and restart it every 6 hours.
Well actually, I do use teamviewer to restart via my iphone ^.^! The reason why I'm looking to fix the 6 hour thing though is just simple because I sleep close to 10 hours most days , and thats 4 hours wasted :(. Also, when I work 10 hour shifts, we have to deposit our phones - thats another 4 hours in a day missed :(.
I did add my rs account to powerbot (I won't add my pin, that way i'm safe and I can just change my pass/clean pc after I'm done with idung) but I don't think I did it correctly. It is in the "accounts" part, but there is nowhere indicating that I'm USING that account. To avoid spamming this thread with my personal need, if you can help just reply back via PM :D.
(and also.. if you do help me get the 6 hour fixed, I'd be happy to smith your Prom 2hnd for you ^.^ …but you have to give me a sample of your blood and take a vow of secretness :D)
thanks ^.^!
Mjordan
2012-07-16 19:27:30
From: Luke L
Well actually, I do use teamviewer to restart via my iphone ^.^! The reason why I'm looking to fix the 6 hour thing though is just simple because I sleep close to 10 hours most days , and thats 4 hours wasted :(. Also, when I work 10 hour shifts, we have to deposit our phones - thats another 4 hours in a day missed :(.
I did add my rs account to powerbot (I won't add my pin, that way i'm safe and I can just change my pass/clean pc after I'm done with idung) but I don't think I did it correctly. It is in the "accounts" part, but there is nowhere indicating that I'm USING that account. To avoid spamming this thread with my personal need, if you can help just reply back via PM :D.
(and also.. if you do help me get the 6 hour fixed, I'd be happy to smith your Prom 2hnd for you ^.^ …but you have to give me a sample of your blood and take a vow of secretness :D)
thanks ^.^!
Deal accepted, glad we could work something out. Blood sample sent via Fedex about an hour ago.
….Oh yeah I sent you a PM too lolz.
EDIT: HOLY CRAP! No homo, but I think I might love you Luke L. My xp/hour has rose from ~7k/hour to over 20k/hour since getting that prom 2h and better bow.
Luke L
2012-07-17 07:50:02
From: Mjordan
Deal accepted, glad we could work something out. Blood sample sent via Fedex about an hour ago.
….Oh yeah I sent you a PM too lolz.
EDIT: HOLY CRAP! No homo, but I think I might love you Luke L. My xp/hour has rose from ~7k/hour to over 20k/hour since getting that prom 2h and better bow.
<3 :D. Yeah it makes a difference! Glad to hear ^.^
edit:and I didn't get to even use the 6 hour thingy :(, woke up and bot had been stopped for some reason (like computer was on login screen). and powerbot isn't loading RS now. hopefully it's just something messing up a bit for me, and not like a nuke or anything :D
Mjordan
2012-07-17 09:14:45
From: Luke L
<3 :D. Yeah it makes a difference! Glad to hear ^.^
edit:and I didn't get to even use the 6 hour thingy :(, woke up and bot had been stopped for some reason (like computer was on login screen). and powerbot isn't loading RS now. hopefully it's just something messing up a bit for me, and not like a nuke or anything :D
Same here. RS updated so PB needs updating. It gets stuck on the loading screen now. It should be fixed in a day or so.
Hazzah
2012-07-18 00:01:21
Shay, you may want to add that when BOTTING Dung the highest platebody is better than SSH because you are tanking all the damage. At 100+ SSH + Plate + 2H is best, iirc.
speedypetey
2012-07-18 00:58:15
wow great thread came on SRL and was wondering about all things dungeoneering since im an absolute noob at the skill and then I came across this gem
would be amazing if you could post different proggies and the settings you used for them
(just an idea)
Luke L
2012-07-18 10:19:03
From: Hazzah
Shay, you may want to add that when BOTTING Dung the highest platebody is better than SSH because you are tanking all the damage. At 100+ SSH + Plate + 2H is best, iirc.
I'm 100+, but I use Prom plate, Prom 2hnd, and gravekeeper short. I thought it was more important to have a secondary range then have an ssh o.o?
Austin
2012-07-18 12:49:39
From: Luke L
I'm 100+, but I use Prom plate, Prom 2hnd, and gravekeeper short. I thought it was more important to have a secondary range then have an ssh o.o?
No, only time you should have secondary range is with a hex or when your a range pure or something like that
Mjordan
2012-07-18 13:17:07
I think it is still better to have a secondary style like range or mage set when using iDungeon. Maybe if you were legitting with friends then it would be best to have ssh, but for now while he develops the bot I've been in certain situations where it is most definitely better to have a range bind.
Hazzah
2012-07-18 13:48:43
From: Mjordan
I think it is still better to have a secondary style like range or mage set when using iDungeon. Maybe if you were legitting with friends then it would be best to have ssh, but for now while he develops the bot I've been in certain situations where it is most definitely better to have a range bind.
This is true, but it is better to have a surgebox with 225 casts + plate + 2h + ssh
A hex is the only bow that should be bound.
Yeah if you don't have a Hex, then range isn't really worth a bind to be honest.
Benny
2012-07-18 21:43:29
I only have prom 2h bound and ssh and getting about 25k ph on average at 84
Hazzah
2012-07-18 21:48:56
x[Warrior]x3500
2012-07-18 21:51:51
a while back, when i was researching how to dung correctly, i saw a lot of debate about the maul vs 2h. you clearly state that the 2h is the best, i am just wondering what makes it better than the maul?
From: x[Warrior]x3500
i am just wondering what makes it better than the maul?
Because of the attack styles, in practise a 2H seems to perform better because it's more versatile, you can use the Crush AND Slash attack styles, unlike the Maul where you are forced to use Crush.
Quite a few monsters in the dungeons are weak to Slash, so you are missing out with a maul there.
Austin
2012-07-18 22:01:32
From: x[Warrior]x3500
a while back, when i was researching how to dung correctly, i saw a lot of debate about the maul vs 2h. you clearly state that the 2h is the best, i am just wondering what makes it better than the maul?
The versatility for one, maul can only crush, 2h can slash AND crush. And out out of the three melee attack styles, most creatures in dung are weak to slash, second is crush, so 2h can do both and it excels in slash. I never saw anybody with 105+ dung with a maul, unless they didn't have the reqs to wield a 2h
Hazzah
2012-07-18 22:11:31
From: AustnW
The versatility for one, maul can only crush, 2h can slash AND crush. And out out of the three melee attack styles, most creatures in dung are weak to slash, second is crush, so 2h can do both and it excels in slash. I never saw anybody with 105+ dung with a maul, unless they didn't have the reqs to wield a 2h
I do recall one person botting to 120 Dung using a Primal maul (he was 50 att, 99str, 1 def). He actually was able to manage some of the best dung xp/hr simply because he was low combat with an amazingly accurate + strong weapon.
Mjordan
2012-07-18 22:16:39
From: Hazzah
Prom Plate + Legs + 2h + surgebox
You should try taking it off medium dungeons. Apparently from what I've heard, your xp/hour will go up slightly when using the bot.
I'm level 71 with a prom 2h and bow bound and getting around 18k/hour now. That's pretty good if you ask me. If anybody needs help with their setting, feel free to shoot me a PM.
Austin
2012-07-18 22:20:37
From: Hazzah
I do recall one person botting to 120 Dung using a Primal maul (he was 50 att, 99str, 1 def). He actually was able to manage some of the best dung xp/hr simply because he was low combat with an amazingly accurate + strong weapon.
Ok, like I said, maul would obviously be better then if you don't have reqs for a good/best 2h
Luke L
2012-07-18 23:28:58
From: Hazzah
I do recall one person botting to 120 Dung using a Primal maul (he was 50 att, 99str, 1 def). He actually was able to manage some of the best dung xp/hr simply because he was low combat with an amazingly accurate + strong weapon.
^that was me lol…I got 48k-55k exp an hour at 110+ dung with 1 def and 13 prayer x). I am Luke L, the mauler master you know :p.
(Also, I'm the only mauler who ever botted to 110+ dung. The other mauler "m1ni" from FOE legitted his 120 dung on his mauler, and he has prayer)
Now i'm botting my main =p.
and @ your 3 hour proggie, it doesn't tell much :(. It depends what floors you were on in the 3 hours. I have promethium 2h, prom plate, and gravekeeper short bound, and I've had a 4 hour proggie of 55k exp an hour :/. You need to have a like 2 day proggie where you at least go through all the floors you can to get a true average exp an hour. Because other wise you could get like 29k/hour on low floors, and 51k per hour on high floors. For 4 hours of high floors it might show your getting the 51k per hour, but after you go through all the floors, it'll bring your average down. Idk, I think having a gravekeeper as your secondary is better than having a SSH.
Here's an average progress report from me if you want to know some of the highest xp rates ppl get:
Hazzah
2012-07-19 00:15:38
From: Luke L
^that was me lol…I got 48k-55k exp an hour at 110+ dung with 1 def and 13 prayer x). I am Luke L, the mauler master you know :p.
(Also, I'm the only mauler who ever botted to 110+ dung. The other mauler "m1ni" from FOE legitted his 120 dung on his mauler, and he has prayer)
Now i'm botting my main =p.
and @ your 3 hour proggie, it doesn't tell much :(. It depends what floors you were on in the 3 hours. I have promethium 2h, prom plate, and gravekeeper short bound, and I've had a 4 hour proggie of 55k exp an hour :/. You need to have a like 2 day proggie where you at least go through all the floors you can to get a true average exp an hour. Because other wise you could get like 29k/hour on low floors, and 51k per hour on high floors. For 4 hours of high floors it might show your getting the 51k per hour, but after you go through all the floors, it'll bring your average down. Idk, I think having a gravekeeper as your secondary is better than having a SSH.
No point when you have a CSB bound. I stop every few hours and do something else legit so as not too get banned :P
From: Liimujx
Here's an average progress report from me if you want to know some of the highest xp rates ppl get:
Nice, I'm just enjoying having more dung tokens to spend, need to get 300k ish more so I can dual wield all my weapons.
Luke L
2012-07-19 01:33:50
From: Liimujx
Here's an average progress report from me if you want to know some of the highest xp rates ppl get:
Wow wtf. I'm higher dung then you and I've never seen over 55k per hour. What's your stats / binds/ idung settings please :). I'm maxed combat - help me!
From: Luke L
Wow wtf. I'm higher dung then you and I've never seen over 55k per hour. What's your stats / binds/ idung settings please :). I'm maxed combat - help me!
Max cape + 115 dg. Hex, Primal 2h, Primal Platebody.
Settings:
Luke L
2012-07-19 13:28:36
From: Liimujx
Max cape + 115 dg. Hex, Primal 2h, Primal Platebody.
Settings:
Oh, probably your primals + hex is whats making your exp better then mine :p.
Also, I see you have quick prayer selected. Is that just turmoil your using? Thanks :D.
Yup It's only turmoil cause iDung handles protection prayers.
Luke L
2012-07-19 13:36:15
From: Liimujx
Yup It's only turmoil cause iDung handles protection prayers.
See thats what I read too - but when I used quickprayer as turm, I noticed a significant exp drop because my prayer would run out faster, and a boss would rape me, adding a death. Idk maybe I was just unlucky. I shall try it again :D.
OT: phew, finally under top 100 on idung. now for top 50 x)
:D
Luke L
2012-07-19 16:42:12
From: Shay
:D
nice =p. I have like double your dung exp , and you get better exp an hour then me -.- , lol. It's cuz I'm such a dung noobie, I got the promethiums and gravekeeper ^.^
mukakall
2012-07-19 23:25:37
After the days of when I lost my rapier from a glitched gravestone were whenever I walked over it it would vanish and also when I disconnect in the wilderness. Losing 2 chaotic weapons and a vigour is not easy. So I will be getting 89-99+ until bot nuke.
This is interesting that i am getting around 30k+ Experience an hour for a 40 defence pure with Gorgonite 2h bound. Using this script as it seems to be a safe way to bot my strength only a couple million Experience until 99 and attack which is around 7 levels until 90.
Hope the bot is good for you all. :norris:
Edit: Getting around 48K-55k an hour now going to be bottling loads, Will probs get 99 att, str with this bot if the script doesn't turn into a payed one.
putonajonny
2012-07-20 07:17:10
I'm currently getting 15-20k / hour at level 58, average?
Austin
2012-07-20 09:41:04
From: putonajonny
I'm currently getting 15-20k / hour at level 58, average?
I'd say that's pretty good
[F]aceless
2012-07-20 10:08:59
My stats are
Attack - 78
Def - 77
Str - 77
HP -78
What u guys think I should use as a melee weapon and customised ring??
Help plz
putonajonny
2012-07-20 13:09:16
From: henrik30796
My stats are
Attack - 78
Def - 77
Str - 77
HP -78
What u guys think I should use as a melee weapon and customised ring??
Help plz
I'm a little higher than that and I go with a Fractite 2h and platebody but I am f2p…
Some time for that iDung setting being inDev… SIN!
Haven't been botting much Dungeoneering…Soon!
jelle013
2012-07-20 16:43:46
Looking forward to the iDungeon part.
Hazzah
2012-07-20 17:24:48
Dat I dung signature
I barely used it :p
Hazzah
2012-07-20 17:34:31
From: Shay
I barely used it :p
Haha, Well, you know how to legit dung anyway, so your xp/hr is better that way. My dungeoneering is ALL from iDung lol. Got 4 accounts running iDung at the moment, the rest are friends accounts :P
Luke L
2012-07-22 23:51:55
From: Hazzah
Dat I dung signature
I'll be top 50 soon :cool:
Hazzah
2012-07-23 02:49:21
From: Luke L
I'll be top 50 soon :cool:
Nerd :f:
Haha. My binds are all messed up ATM, been trying so hard to get a SSH but to no avail :duh:
Luke L
2012-07-23 10:44:49
From: Hazzah
Nerd :f:
Haha. My binds are all messed up ATM, been trying so hard to get a SSH but to no avail :duh:
I don't use ssh, I use a plate
But yeah my binds aren't too good either. No primals or hex (never legitted a dung in my life lol). Got prom 2h/plate, grave keeper short :)
Oh and, rank 55 now x)
Hazzah
2012-07-24 01:35:46
From: Luke L
I don't use ssh, I use a plate
But yeah my binds aren't too good either. No primals or hex (never legitted a dung in my life lol). Got prom 2h/plate, grave keeper short :)
Oh and, rank 55 now x)
Haha, I have Prom plate + 2h + Empowered Celestial staff + surgebox. Might just turn in staff for Prom legs until I find a SSH or get 99 slayer for a Hex.
From: Hazzah
Haha, I have Prom plate + 2h + Empowered Celestial staff + surgebox. Might just turn in staff for Prom legs until I find a SSH or get 99 slayer for a Hex.
you can get a hex without 99 slayer, you just have to kill it with reflect curses.
defjam
2012-07-25 01:56:22
Hey guys im doing 20k xp/hr atm at 69 dung. I have prom 2h and prom pl8 bind. Is this good exp?
Luke L
2012-07-25 12:18:51
From: Hazzah
Haha, I have Prom plate + 2h + Empowered Celestial staff + surgebox. Might just turn in staff for Prom legs until I find a SSH or get 99 slayer for a Hex.
Oh nice - I'd just turn staff in for a SSH, they don't take long to find if you have someone good with you to help. I know nothing about dung like I said before, but long ago when I was still maxing out my maulers I had a friend help me get SSH. we got it in like 20 minutes, we were very lucky to receive the SSH drop as soon as we found the spider. Sadly, he didn't know it required 45 def and neither did I :p
From: JN13
you can get a hex without 99 slayer, you just have to kill it with reflect curses.
Are you sure? I was always told that the monster won't even appear in a dung unless you have a 99 slayer in the group.
From: defjam
Hey guys im doing 20k xp/hr atm at 69 dung. I have prom 2h and prom pl8 bind. Is this good exp?
Yes that is fairly average - keep on chuggin :)!
"Soulgazers can appear to a team in which no one has 99 Slayer along a bonus path, in which case a survivalist's potion may be used to kill it."
thats the wiki
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Soulgazer
Hazzah
2012-07-26 01:41:46
From: JN13
you can get a hex without 99 slayer, you just have to kill it with reflect curses.
From: JN13
"Soulgazers can appear to a team in which no one has 99 Slayer along a bonus path, in which case a survivalist's potion may be used to kill it."
thats the wiki
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Soulgazer
That's true, but iDung does not kill things with curses, I can use a pot and kill them as well if I am legitting Dg.
Hey guys im 44 dung atm, average of around 85 in def,atk and str.
What are the optimal settings that i should be using to get my dungeoneering level up?
And also, am I right in assuming that iDungeon automatically loots the best possible weapon?
Currently using a Zephyriusmrm 2h, and I would like upgrade to a better weapon sooner or later.
Austin
2012-07-26 07:52:48
From: lord131300
Hey guys im 44 dung atm, average of around 85 in def,atk and str.
What are the optimal settings that i should be using to get my dungeoneering level up?
And also, am I right in assuming that iDungeon automatically loots the best possible weapon?
Currently using a Zephyriusmrm 2h, and I would like upgrade to a better weapon sooner or later.
Get a gorgonite 2h
Enslaved
2012-07-26 08:15:58
lol seriouly 1 day of botting for 1m exp?
1m is easily achieveable within 2 hours.
also i would say the true order of binds if you could have any bind you wished= primal 2h>hex>plate>bn>hood (hood is suggested to substitue plate if you are 80 def or below wlse a plate would be better)
Reason for saying that hood is basicly useless as i do larges in about 8-13 mins, it takes a minute for it to reactivate by then you would have already encountered another mage, hence unhooding you again.
Also i would like to say that surv prodding is ok if you solo but try not to do it in a good team. w77 do it anyway, but ppl picking up food moderately usally means +1 min per person, whist if ur hoarding it its more like +10 min in total. Ofcourse this is just my opinion, when i dung, i takes 1-3 deaths not eating at all, might sound bad, but it yeilds a better exp/hour rate than if you surv prod a 40 min dung.
Another tip whist dging, dont always do time wasting bonus rooms, if its already +11%, and the other rooms are like ramo/mono/emo/barrels , its going to be a waste of time
Enslaved
2012-07-26 08:17:26
From: JN13
"Soulgazers can appear to a team in which no one has 99 Slayer along a bonus path, in which case a survivalist's potion may be used to kill it."
thats the wiki
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Soulgazer
You may also use blood Neck and/or wraith/redeption to kill it. it will be an empty drop with a chance of the slayer loot in this case hex
Luke L
2012-07-27 11:21:42
From: ziyilin
lol seriouly 1 day of botting for 1m exp?
1m is easily achieveable within 2 hours.
also i would say the true order of binds if you could have any bind you wished= primal 2h>hex>plate>bn>hood (hood is suggested to substitue plate if you are 80 def or below wlse a plate would be better)
Reason for saying that hood is basicly useless as i do larges in about 8-13 mins, it takes a minute for it to reactivate by then you would have already encountered another mage, hence unhooding you again.
Also i would like to say that surv prodding is ok if you solo but try not to do it in a good team. w77 do it anyway, but ppl picking up food moderately usally means +1 min per person, whist if ur hoarding it its more like +10 min in total. Ofcourse this is just my opinion, when i dung, i takes 1-3 deaths not eating at all, might sound bad, but it yeilds a better exp/hour rate than if you surv prod a 40 min dung.
Another tip whist dging, dont always do time wasting bonus rooms, if its already +11%, and the other rooms are like ramo/mono/emo/barrels , its going to be a waste of time
Your saying you can get 500k dung exp an hour? Your insane.
Also, don't double post.
Austin
2012-07-27 11:27:53
From: ziyilin
lol seriouly 1 day of botting for 1m exp?
1m is easily achieveable within 2 hours.
also i would say the true order of binds if you could have any bind you wished= primal 2h>hex>plate>bn>hood (hood is suggested to substitue plate if you are 80 def or below wlse a plate would be better)
Reason for saying that hood is basicly useless as i do larges in about 8-13 mins, it takes a minute for it to reactivate by then you would have already encountered another mage, hence unhooding you again.
Also i would like to say that surv prodding is ok if you solo but try not to do it in a good team. w77 do it anyway, but ppl picking up food moderately usally means +1 min per person, whist if ur hoarding it its more like +10 min in total. Ofcourse this is just my opinion, when i dung, i takes 1-3 deaths not eating at all, might sound bad, but it yeilds a better exp/hour rate than if you surv prod a 40 min dung.
Another tip whist dging, dont always do time wasting bonus rooms, if its already +11%, and the other rooms are like ramo/mono/emo/barrels , its going to be a waste of time
500k is like the absolute MAX xp you can gain per hour without using tokens. So i highly doubt that would be your average
Enslaved
2012-07-28 03:36:21
its my average… 120k exp average per dung, time:8-14 mins call it an extra minute for regoup and pots per dg, thats still 5 dg/h
5*120k = 600k . the 120k exp includes death modifier
TehNeonFishy
2012-07-30 09:33:34
The only other addition I can think of is actually add a small section on how best to get the item on binding. For example, I have spent about 10 minutes doing legit dung. I had no idea how to get the items the guide said to bind. >.<
Austin
2012-07-30 20:27:31
From: TehNeonFishy
The only other addition I can think of is actually add a small section on how best to get the item on binding. For example, I have spent about 10 minutes doing legit dung. I had no idea how to get the items the guide said to bind. >.<
Why not look at RS Wiki?
Enslaved
2012-08-02 18:49:34
Heres a guide i wrote a while back- took me 2 hours to update it lol
Link
Mjordan
2012-08-02 19:58:07
From: Austin
Why not look at RS Wiki?
Just set the bot to update your binds. That will be the easiest way if you don't know how or want to take the legit time to find them yourself. I just set mine to find and replace my bow with a shadow silk hood. Supposedly the binding option works just as should.
Nickthundarr
2012-08-03 11:48:21
Nice guide! But do you think that I should use ranged if my melee is terrible; My attack is 80 and strength is 70, but my ranged and defense are both 99. I don't have a hexhunter, but I am trying to get a sagittarian bow…
Austin
2012-08-03 14:52:28
From: Nickthundarr
Nice guide! But do you think that I should use ranged if my melee is terrible; My attack is 80 and strength is 70, but my ranged and defense are both 99. I don't have a hexhunter, but I am trying to get a sagittarian bow…
A katagon 2h would probably still be better
nexusenvy
2012-08-09 18:02:18
I just bound a primal battle axe over my prom2h and I am a little disappointed. My idungeon xp/hr seems to have dropped instead :/ I will try run it for a few more hours before deciding if I need to resmith my 2h.
