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EDIT: Post from BenLand100

From: BenLand100
Someone posts some scary looking source code with a few renamed variables to 'mouse_hook' and everyone shits themselves.

DID ANYONE CONSIDER THAT THIS IS RELATED TO FULLSCREEN RS WHICH REQUIRES SPECIAL HANDLING OF MOUSE EVENTS if it's even real at all? lol

It's all complete fodder imho, nothing to see here, move along.

I found this on the scar-divi forums.
http://forums.scar-divi.com/showthread.php?1583-URGENT-!-New-banning-system-RS
Is this guy telling the truth or is it false?

I Suggest everyone who is using scar to bot with stop right away within the next 20 days as Optimus rolls out ( which it did today ) . The source file was found that it can track "SMART" users very easily. Then a smaller update in time will even hit the bots harder on even color clicking. but as it stands SMART client will get you banned, if not today then it will come in due time.

I am warning everyone now. If you want to bot the safest way is the old school coding standards with scar divi ( not attaching to smart )

Everyone here who knows me, knows that I am a respectful member of this community.

"Today's release has seen the introduction of the Optimus platform in place of many older build systems. As you've seen, this means that the recent performance issues have be resolved for almost all players, although there are still some engine updates being worked on to improve performance even further in various areas.

blah blah blah… then it goes into the bots and destroying them.
Jagex code is below for the implemented baning system.


int __stdcall Java_jaclib_ping_IcmpService_run(JNIEnv *env, jobject this)
{
jclass icmp_service_class; // edi@1
jobject this_ref; // eax@1
jmethodID (__stdcall *get_method_id)(JNIEnv *, jclass, const char *, const char *); // edx@1
HHOOK hook; // eax@1
jmethodID (__stdcall *_get_method_id)(JNIEnv *, jclass, const char *, const char *); // edx@1
jmethodID *notify2_method_id; // eax@1
int result; // eax@3
MSG msg; // [sp+30h] [bp-1Ch]@1

icmp_service_class = (*(*env + 31))(env, this);// env->GetObjectClass
this_ref = (*(*env + 21))(env, this); // env->NewGlobalRef
get_method_id = *(*env + 33); // env->GetMethodID
service_this = this_ref;
notify1_method_id = get_method_id(env, icmp_service_class, "notify", "(III)V");
hook_thread_id = GetCurrentThreadId();
hook = SetWindowsHookExA(WH_MOUSE_LL, mouse_hook_func, cur_module, 0);
_get_method_id = *(*env + 33);
mouse_hook = hook;
notify2_method_id = _get_method_id(env, icmp_service_class, "notify", "(I)V");
call_void_method(env, service_this, notify2_method_id, 0);
while ( GetMessageA(&msg, 0, 0, 0) )
{
TranslateMessage(&msg);
DispatchMessageA(&msg);
}
UnhookWindowsHookEx(mouse_hook);
(*(*env + 22))(env, service_this); // env->ReleaseGlobalRef
result = 0;
notify1_method_id = 0;
mouse_hook = 0;
return result;
}




.text:10005DC0 ; =============== S U B R O U T I N E =======================================
.text:10005DC0
.text:10005DC0
.text:10005DC0 ; LRESULT __stdcall mouse_hook_func(int code, int message_id, MSLLHOOKSTRUCT *hook_struct)
.text:10005DC0 mouse_hook_func proc near ; DATA XREF: Java_jaclib_ping_IcmpService_run(x,x)+55o
.text:10005DC0
.text:10005DC0 env = dword ptr -4
.text:10005DC0 code = dword ptr 4
.text:10005DC0 message_id = dword ptr 8
.text:10005DC0 hook_struct = dword ptr 0Ch
.text:10005DC0
.text:10005DC0 push ecx ; preserve ecx
.text:10005DC1 mov eax, jvm_ptr
.text:10005DC6 mov ecx, [eax] ; store the JavaVM *vm in ecx
.text:10005DC8 push esi
.text:10005DC9 push edi ; preserve esi,edi
.text:10005DCA push 0 ; push null for attach args
.text:10005DCC lea edx, [esp+10h+env] ; store &env in edx
.text:10005DD0 push edx ; push &env
.text:10005DD1 mov [esp+14h+env], 0 ; initialize JNIEnv *env
.text:10005DD9 push eax ; preserve eax
.text:10005DDA mov eax, [ecx+10h]
.text:10005DDD call eax ; call vm->AttachCurrentThread(vm, &env, 0)
.text:10005DDF mov esi, [esp+0Ch+hook_struct] ; store the MSLLHOOKSTRUCT *hook_struct in esi
.text:10005DE3 mov ecx, [esi+0Ch] ; store hook_struct->mouseData in ecx
.text:10005DE6 mov edx, [esi+4] ; store hook_struct->pt.y in edx
.text:10005DE9 mov eax, [esi] ; store hook_struct->pt.x in eax
.text:10005DEB mov edi, [esp+0Ch+message_id] ; store message_id
.text:10005DEF push ecx ; push mouseData
.text:10005DF0 mov ecx, notify1_method_id ; store the handle to notify(III)V in ecx
.text:10005DF6 and edx, 0FFFFh
.text:10005DFC shl eax, 10h
.text:10005DFF or edx, eax ; pack coords (y & 0xffff) << 16 | x into edx
.text:10005E01 mov eax, [esp+10h+env] ; push env
.text:10005E05 push edi ; push message_id
.text:10005E06 push edx ; char
.text:10005E07 mov edx, service_this
.text:10005E0D push ecx ; push the notify(III)V method id
.text:10005E0E push edx ; push the IcmpService instance
.text:10005E0F call call_void_method ; call IcmpService.notify(mouseData, (y & 0xffff) << 16 | x, message_id)
.text:10005E14 mov eax, [esp+20h+code] ; store code in eax
.text:10005E18 mov ecx, mouse_hook ; store mouse_hook in ecx
.text:10005E1E add esp, 14h ; reset the stack height
.text:10005E21 push esi ; push hook_struct
.text:10005E22 push edi ; push message_id
.text:10005E23 push eax ; push code
.text:10005E24 push ecx ; push mouse_hook
.text:10005E25 call ds:CallNextHookEx ; continue the hook chain
.text:10005E2B pop edi
.text:10005E2C pop esi
.text:10005E2D pop ecx ; restore edi,esi,ecx
.text:10005E2E retn 0Ch
.text:10005E2E mouse_hook_func endp
.text:10005E2E
.text:10005E2E ; ————————————————————————–

Dam, Freddy seems to think this is legit 2 and that their isn't much we can do unless we program it in kernel mode which is very hard apparently since 1 bug in it could crash the whole system.

1. That above code is JNI with C++ and that's fine but running that in a browser.. Are you kidding me? How does that have access to the registers and WinAPI which is C++ code? This is a Java game that does not have access to my computer and it's ran in a JVM. How does it have direct access to WinHooks? I always thought VM's only communicate with the hypervisor only. Though .Net is partial, it is a standalone EXE and is an exception.

You're telling me that they check processes and implemented WinAPI hooking of the Mouse and keyboard in Java through the browser? LOL. I highly doubt that. Don't know JNI (can only read it) but I know C++ and I honestly do not see this possible through the browser and that is why I doubt it. GL using LoadLibraryA via a JApplet.

2. These are WINDOWS hooks. Is the poster of that post saying that they limited Runescape to Windows only? Are they doing #ifdef Windows?? What happens if a user does not have administrator privileges? These hooks cannot be done. Don't ever see this being possible but like I said I don't know java just cpp and I highly doubt this can happen through a browser. They would most likely have some other method of detecting smart. NOT what is mentioned in that post.

3. I'd like to mention that RDP programs like logmein can be ran through the browser but it does not HOOK! I've written one before.

I like how he says this:

I am warning everyone now. If you want to bot the safest way is the old school coding standards with scar divi ( not attaching to smart )

As if SCAR is the only program that allows the user to macro in the regular web browser… :duh:
No doubt if it's true then SMART (as far as I'm concerned) is done for. I think I could cope just fine with using Simba via the RS Loader / browser.

Edit:
I'd like to see Wizzup? & Ben's input on this matter.

uh-oh

I agree with flight, I want to see what Ben says, I don't really care for most other peoples input on a topic like this, especially from those forums.. Although as ben has said before it could be detected, and it wouldn't be hard to do (or someone in one of bens threads said that)

Although running in a browser with 10 virtual machines will be fun like the old days!

any higher-ups care to comment with opinions?

To be safe, I have moved my account onto a VM, running in the browser. Will be doing this until something has been sorted out :)

From: [J]ustin
To be safe, I have moved my account onto a VM, running in the browser. Will be doing this until something has been sorted out :)

Could you give me some link to download a good VM? Never used one before :P

From: okokokok
Could you give me some link to download a good VM? Never used one before :P

http://www.vmware.com/au/

This means no botting for now?

let's hope this isn't true :o

I think that if this were true then they could even detect scar/simba without using smart. Flight has a point: I don't think they can do this with pure java.

Hmm might just hold up on the botting for now until Ben & or Wizzup have an input.

Few things. They use signed java, iow they already have much more access than they usually have. Including access to your file system. They can also use OpenGL among other things. That's all written in C. They already can interface with Windows and stuff. However, this doesn't really look very interesting.

Seeing it's also from a forum I think very, very lowly of, I at least personally wouldn't pay too much attention to it. I'd even go as far as think they're upset because the new SMART that will come with Simba is so much cooler and they can't get it, they're now spreading FUD. But that's probably far fetched. ;)

But if you want more information on how this can really affect you, I suggest you wait for someone else (Benland?) to comment on this. I've never dived into the Jagex client hacking scene and I never will. So I'm not knowledgeable on this subject.

if yall want to be safe, just remove smart from your script and voila

I am warning everyone now. If you want to bot the safest way is the old school coding standards with scar divi ( not attaching to smart )

lets assume what he said is true, I would not even bot or use the safest way as he claimed.

and like i said before..keep calm and prepare for the worst
1-Transfer your bank
2-Stop botting
depends on the person

I have a question, If they can track our windows doesn't that mean they are getting into our personal things, i mean no one is allowed to get into ur windows without authority..

From: Eustass
I have a question, If they can track our windows doesn't that mean they are getting into our personal things, i mean no one is allowed to get into ur windows without authority..

If you first load Runescape, you have to click something like ``Accept to run signed java'' or something. That's where you give access. They previously had an unsigned mode, but that has been removed.

First off, where is the runescape.com thread with this info, and second we can always mod the runecape client with smart.(even if benland doesn't want to.)

From: Wizzup?
If you first load Runescape, you have to click something like ``Accept to run signed java'' or something. That's where you give access. They previously had an unsigned mode, but that has been removed.

I just need to ask:
If they can go into your windows setup, can they find the simba folder and files… This would be a dead giveaway to bots. Should we be hiding our simba folders?

And to Jagex:

they can't view your folder via java applet with the current permissions at the moment. And whether or not they can view processes are still in discussion.

Damit… and we thought we were invincible…

From: Joe
I just need to ask:
If they can go into your windows setup, can they find the simba folder and files… This would be a dead giveaway to bots. Should we be hiding our simba folders?

And to Jagex:

If they look into those folders i'd say sue them. There is still something called privacy, I don't think they are allowed to go in your computer.

EDIT:

From: Foooty
Damit… and we thought we were invincible…

This doesn't mean we are beaten. This would just mean that you can't use smart. So just bot with simba controlling your mouse or get a VM which should allow you to use your mouse again. So i don't see how they have beaten us.

Not beaten, theyve weakened us. Will their crazy systems detect a VM?

From: Foooty
Not beaten, theyve weakened us. Will their crazy systems detect a VM?

Possible but I don't think they would look into it as there could be many legit players who use VM's to play RS just incase.

So I should most likely stop using Simba today then, huh?

As far as clients go I believe we're all over-looking the potential of Appa.

From: mormonman
First off, where is the runescape.com thread with this info, and second we can always mod the runecape client with smart.(even if benland doesn't want to.)

Absolutely. :)

From: Joe
I just need to ask:
If they can go into your windows setup, can they find the simba folder and files… This would be a dead giveaway to bots. Should we be hiding our simba folders?

That would not be enough ground for them to accuse one of botting on Runescape. How do they know you were using Simba (a general macro program) for RS? You could argue against this and make a strong case stating that they're wrong for assuming you were botting.

Think of it like this, we've seen quite a few players in RS with names like "Sir BotsALot" or "I Bot Lvls" or maybe "My Skills Botd", whatever, but Jagex isn't going to ban them just based on their name, where's the proof? IMO, same deal here.

From: Main
they can't view your folder via java applet with the current permissions at the moment. And whether or not they can view processes are still in discussion.

According to Wizzup? they're not limited to java as he said early of their interaction with your OpenGL plugins ect which are C.


So from what I heard it's very possible for them to monitor our systems in such ways, but whether they do or will is the question. If they go this far then I can see where quite a few people (botters & legitimate players both) would feel threatened by this. Should Jagex choose to go this far they better be damn specific in their agreement that they will spy over every resource on your computer without limit if they need to.

I guess the child pediofiles have something to be worried about right now….

They will not do a massive ban wave without tons of evidence

I feel that it is just hype but who knows for sure :confused:

From: Wizzup?
If you first load Runescape, you have to click something like ``Accept to run signed java'' or something. That's where you give access. They previously had an unsigned mode, but that has been removed.

Simba would have been done for a long time ago then. Same with RSBot. They'd just go right into the C-Drive: "Oohh look at that Simba folder" Bam instaban.
They'd be able to search for a partial file name that says RSBot and instaban as well.

Jagex can ban you for anything and they can definitely ban for having a Simba folder in the default directory. They can easily download Simba, look at all the plugins it loads. Search a user's computer for irokiplugin and all the extensions or the srl include. They'd check systemprocs.

Btw. Java Applets cannot access the file system due to browser restrictions. IE 3.0 blocked it out completely and right now it's at 9.0. I'm pretty sure firefox wouldn't allow such a thing.

Still doubt this hooking is possible. OGL is loaded through JOGL which is a wrapper for Java. J3D Supports DX and OGL too.

IF they can hook, they can easily d GetProcessThreadID and screw every single bot over. RSBot doesn't mask it's process neither does Simba or Smart 7.

Anyone else smell Jacmob all over this? I have a feeling (if this is indeed legit) that he is the one having a hand in this. And with this being his job, I dread the future of botting.

Either way, I haven't scaped in 3 weeks now? So not really worried if they are banning me or not, I wouldn't even care if they do.

From: Chig
Anyone else smell Jacmob all over this? I have a feeling (if this is indeed legit) that he is the one having a hand in this. And with this being his job, I dread the future of botting.

Either way, I haven't scaped in 3 weeks now? So not really worried if they are banning me or not, I wouldn't even care if they do.

I mentioned it that Jacmob shouldnt be under looked…Regardless of the situation, I dont understand why all of sudden this is coming to light…

How was this discovered in the first place?

@Brandon - Just because you have Simba installed did not mean you used it for runescape. Most companies will not "instaban" you for this, at most I would say put you on a watch list.

Would it be a hoot if they wanted us to disable SMART in order to catch us so they just put out bait to see how we react, I just dont think if they had a move that they would let the cat out of the bag…something seems fishy.

From: Based Lord
@Brandon - Just because you have Simba installed did not mean you used it for runescape. Most companies will not "instaban" you for this, at most I would say put you on a watch list.

Like I said. If that is the case, there'd be no smart, no simba, no rsbot. GetThreadProcessID, EnumProcs, ExitProc, TerminateProc, WaitForInputIdle, IsProcessInJob, all of them would destroy smart and simba.

None of these bots mask their processes. It wouldn't be had to do a registry lookup either.

Why bother hooking just the mouse and keyboard when you have access to the entire system and can just hook taskmanager or monitor a process with a thread. Why not check the msgs a process is sending out? Makes no sense to just hook. Jagex wouldn't be so stupid.

I'd hook the current browser running, check if the applets are getting clicks. If not I'd check for processes.

Looks like your hacking past is back again Brandon :P. So that's how they would do it ehh?

Yeah for sure, but I can't see Jagex banning the entire botting community with the percentage of their players that actually do bot.

What is pathetic is how everyone now knows that over 70% of rs players are botters and

it is an accepted fact. If jagex wants to go ahead and get rid of over 35% of their paying

members, I say go for it! It's about time Jagex counted their losses and invested the game into something that has been a a sign of weakness for them but could be their greatest strength.

Simba and SMART are no longer safe? :surprised::frusty:

Simbas safe, dont use smart untill we get word from benland

EVERYONE STOP BOTTING IMMEDIATELY!

Especially chins, rcin'g, dragon bots, and any other gold farming method!

Do it!!!

So i don't have to compete over spots and I can make more money! …I mean…to be safe…you should stop…

So it sounds like we should bot on the internet browser now… Could anyone tell me or point in the direction of having simba control my mouse rather than smart? Do i just take the definesmart out of the script or what? Sorry for my stupidity.

Today i want to monkey knife, started bot, within 1 minute i was sent to jail. I went back, it happens again. It send me to jail 3 times in like 2 minute. This never happened to me before. Normally you get sent to jail after many failure, happens like once per hour. Not sure if this is anything to do with new update.

I don't think Kaspersky internet security would allow Jagex to browse through my processes/files..
I do believe they could detect smart in other ways though.

to take out smart, add // before the [$DEFINE SMART] Most scripts should work, but some wont.

From: Foooty
to take out smart, add // before the [$DEFINE SMART] Most scripts should work, but some wont.

And drag the green crosshair to the runescape client ;)
It will take over your mouse so you wont be in able to do other things on your computer.

So do you guys think we should stop using smart? Im debating…

@idodew Just wait for Jagex, Or someone else updates what they are doing ..

From: Foooty
Not beaten, theyve weakened us. Will their crazy systems detect a VM?

Can we all stop panicking please. This has not even been confirmed yet.

I gues im kinda dramatizing it. :P Still a scary thought though

If you guys are worrying about being caught now, don't be. This code has been there for months (since March at the very latest), so if it has the ability to detect you botting and has been used at all since then, you've probably already been detected.

From: Method
If you guys are worrying about being caught now, don't be. This code has been there for months (since March at the very latest), so if it has the ability to detect you botting and has been used at all since then, you've probably already been detected.

Wait…what? :frusty:

They used that already?

From: YesMan
Wait…what? :frusty:

They used that already?

They have not usd it already but just remember that the fact of botting,can get you banned so you must prepare for the ban if you bot..

I'm not using Simba or SMART right now, since this thing came up

From: YesMan
I'm not using Simba or SMART right now, since this thing came up

That doesnt save you from the banning list…In fact you might make it worst, if you botted 6-10 hours a day and suddenly jagex came out with the news that the nuke is comming up in July. Then you get scared and stop botting so your hours decrrease, and thats when jagex is going to say: look this acc used to play 6-10 hours a day but i think he read about the nuke and he's scared so he might be a bot and then your banned…

Someone posts some scary looking source code with a few renamed variables to 'mouse_hook' and everyone shits themselves.

DID ANYONE CONSIDER THAT THIS IS RELATED TO FULLSCREEN RS WHICH REQUIRES SPECIAL HANDLING OF MOUSE EVENTS if it's even real at all? lol

It's all complete fodder imho, nothing to see here, move along.

They can't see that, they don't have personal for that kind of analysis

To bot or not to bot now, that's the question, ahah

So…should I make a new account?

When did optimus get released?
I'm on holiday at the moment and haven't had the opportunity to check the rs website someone update me please!

I have lots of Ores, Uncooked Urns, Maple Logs, Runes, diverse Bars and shit, getting rid of this, keeping a low profile

From: YesMan
I have lots of Ores, Uncooked Urns, Maple Logs, Runes, diverse Bars and shit, getting rid of this, keeping a low profile

It is already to late for you man…. RIP

From: -Benny
When did optimus get released?
I'm on holiday at the moment and haven't had the opportunity to check the rs website someone update me please!

is not that optimus got released..we are just saying that "What makes us think that this optimus thing hasnt been on the system flagging accounts…Just remember jagex said it was a release of the first half of the optimus..

Which comes to a possible conclusion: Jagex released this first half of optimus to flag accounts and the second half will get rid of the flagged account..get my point?

From: ashaman88
It is already to late for you man…. RIP

Hope is the last thing to die my friend, hang on :fiery:

Didn't anyone read what Benland100 posted?
LOL

But they said there was going to be other Bot Nuke on July, that's suspicious

From: YesMan
But they said there was going to be other Bot Nuke on July, that's suspicious

Ok and that means we have to survive another 25-26 days and there wont be a nuke until the next announced "NUKE"..

What about that thing about the mass ban on the bots with 20M or 200M total exp?

From: YesMan
What about that thing about the mass ban on the bots with 20M or 200M total exp?

well those are som what obvious, If they got 20M+ and make millios of cash while at it. Then thats more than obvious about them being gold farmers..

Can someone just tell me if i'm safe or not.

The account i'm working on was made 3 days ago, and has only been botted on for like 3 hours.

@theWord Look for the post of BenLand1000 please.

Is BenLand1000 a safe source? If it is, boooooooooooooooooooooooooooot I go!

lol stuff it ill keep botting

From: BenLand100
Someone posts some scary looking source code with a few renamed variables to 'mouse_hook' and everyone shits themselves.

DID ANYONE CONSIDER THAT THIS IS RELATED TO FULLSCREEN RS WHICH REQUIRES SPECIAL HANDLING OF MOUSE EVENTS if it's even real at all? lol

It's all complete fodder imho, nothing to see here, move along.

I lol'd when I saw this post :)

From: jelle013
lol stuff it ill keep botting

hell yeah!

Updated OP.

Well this post pretty much ruined my day.

From past experience I've learnt a lot of these scares are just tactics. I botted during previous warnings of potential mass bans and never experienced a ban on any accounts take note this was when I botted dungeoneering + combat on around 7 accounts at a time including my main.

From: Punjabi3
From past experience I've learnt a lot of these scares are just tactics. I botted during previous warnings of potential mass bans and never experienced a ban on any accounts take note this was when I botted dungeoneering + combat on around 7 accounts at a time including my main.

Alright can you answer me question please?

I made an account have 3 days ago, I've only botted with simba for a good 2 or 3 hours on it. Am I safe?

From: TheWord
Alright can you answer me question please?

I made an account have 3 days ago, I've only botted with simba for a good 2 or 3 hours on it. Am I safe?

Once you bot on an account, anything could happen to it..
If you botted on it 2-3 hours but then continue to gold farm of the system picks up you getting lvls fast..then you might get banned..the point is, when you bot, always expect a risk of you getting banned..

No you're most likely going to get banned.
They track new accounts.

/sarcasm

From: Shay
No you're most likely going to get banned.
They track new accounts.

/sarcasm

he's going to be too scare that he might not see the you know what…

From: Shay
No you're most likely going to get banned.
They track new accounts.

/sarcasm

So…what was the point of using simba?


Didn't know using it would get me banned that fast.

From: TheWord
So…what was the point of using simba?


Didn't know using it would get me banned that fast.

it's not simba, it's all bots/clients/servers in general…If you use epicbot, powerbot, rarebot, simba, rid or whatever chinese super advanced bot, you might get banned because botting gets you banned..

From: Ucantseemebot
it's not simba, it's all bots/clients/servers in general…If you use epicbot, powerbot, rarebot, simba, rid or whatever chinese super advanced bot, you might get banned because botting gets you banned..

So should I just transfer all the cash I have on the new account onto my main or what should I do?

The amount of concern that should be given to this (because of what Benland said) should be pretty much zero.

Move on people.

From: Silent SPY
The amount of concern that should be given to this (because of what Benland said) should be pretty much zero.

Move on people.

Seeing how I have a really large amount of cash on this new account I've been talking about, the amount of concern being given towards this situation is 100%.

From: TheWord
Alright can you answer me question please?

I made an account have 3 days ago, I've only botted with simba for a good 2 or 3 hours on it. Am I safe?

You are also done for…I mourn your loss RIP

Just had a look through the code that was posted. Yeah we are all screwed. It's in fact hooking a computer in the heart of texas with the capabilities to launch every WMD in control of the US. God help us all…

From: YesMan
Is BenLand1000 a safe source? If it is, boooooooooooooooooooooooooooot I go!

What would he know about Smart? He only created it

From: TheWord
So should I just transfer all the cash I have on the new account onto my main or what should I do?

Don't transfer it or your main will be banned too..they track IP's…they know everything you have done!!!

From: BenLand100
Someone posts some scary looking source code with a few renamed variables to 'mouse_hook' and everyone shits themselves.

DID ANYONE CONSIDER THAT THIS IS RELATED TO FULLSCREEN RS WHICH REQUIRES SPECIAL HANDLING OF MOUSE EVENTS if it's even real at all? lol

It's all complete fodder imho, nothing to see here, move along.

Did every person here miss this?

Can someone who knows what he's talking about answer me please?

From: ashaman88
they know everything you have done!!!

oh nooo i though those moments alone were all a secret..no wonder i felt like someone was watching me but everytime i looked out the window, there was noone there…lol..

From: TheWord
Can someone who knows what he's talking about answer me please?

Your Stupid, Read all the posts before asking questions.

From: TheWord
Can someone who knows what he's talking about answer me please?

Lol.

Wooow I've just gotten home off work and I see this thread. Been botting 24/7 for the past week oh damn I hope I don't get banned.

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4689183_460s.jpg

That is what benland100 meant ;)

Ahahah

I just want to say THANKYOU BENLAND

Can someone tell me what I should do? Like on what to do about getting rid of Smart in my Simba files?

Lol…. Just in case JaGex creeps into my computer search for my simba folders and such, I put a TON of Porn in the folder with my scripts so JaGex will be in for a treat.



Heheheheh

Not giving a fuck. Will continue botting.

Basically as soon as you click run on good simba script you are at risk who actually knows what they can see we can only imaged and guess so i say you all leave your computers and

Well, if JaGex opens up my simba folder… Eel Soup……

From: Brandon
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4689183_460s.jpg

That is what benland100 meant ;)

I laughed my ass off with this xD

Scardivi… LOL

From: Chris
Didn't anyone read what Benland100 posted?
LOL

Lol didn't anyone read the original thread? Even what is quoted? The guy who posted this has no source for his information. There is no new banning system.

Anyway this does raise some good points. Wizzup is slowly learning java under BenLand.

@BenLand, if Runescape started hooking non full screen, and implemented banning methods, with your java powers could you make SMART overcome this?
Also can they make it so you can't simulate input? Also for the browser?

From: Brandon
Simba would have been done for a long time ago then. Same with RSBot. They'd just go right into the C-Drive: "Oohh look at that Simba folder" Bam instaban.
They'd be able to search for a partial file name that says RSBot and instaban as well.

Jagex can ban you for anything and they can definitely ban for having a Simba folder in the default directory. They can easily download Simba, look at all the plugins it loads. Search a user's computer for irokiplugin and all the extensions or the srl include. They'd check systemprocs.

Btw. Java Applets cannot access the file system due to browser restrictions. IE 3.0 blocked it out completely and right now it's at 9.0. I'm pretty sure firefox wouldn't allow such a thing.

Still doubt this hooking is possible. OGL is loaded through JOGL which is a wrapper for Java. J3D Supports DX and OGL too.

IF they can hook, they can easily d GetProcessThreadID and screw every single bot over. RSBot doesn't mask it's process neither does Simba or Smart 7.

and what if someone who dont bot have "the lion king" movie and he changed it to "simba" so he can remember it correctly?

Person on SCAR-Divi forums posts scary code and tells us we should all be using Divi instead of Simba and Smart…

Alright so it's been answered, any mod or admin can feel free to lock it up.

I find this thread most interesting because of what freddy said, (Paraphrasing: Don't use "Smart" and just use Scar because we are the only ones that cannot be caught)

He completely leaves out the fact that Simba can run without Smart 100% fine, looks like a marketing ploy.

From: R4nd0m
I find this thread most interesting because of what freddy said, (Paraphrasing: Don't use "Smart" and just use Scar because we are the only ones that cannot be caught)

He completely leaves out the fact that Simba can run without Smart 100% fine, looks like a marketing ploy.

That's exactly what it looks like. Just something to get more SCAR users.

From: Mjordan
Person on SCAR-Divi forums posts scary code and tells us we should all be using Divi instead of Simba and Smart…

From: R4nd0m
I find this thread most interesting because of what freddy said, (Paraphrasing: Don't use "Smart" and just use Scar because we are the only ones that cannot be caught)

He completely leaves out the fact that Simba can run without Smart 100% fine, looks like a marketing ploy.

From: shstiger2009
That's exactly what it looks like. Just something to get more SCAR users.

Nowhere does freddy say anything about Scar being safe. He CLEARLY says the opposite.

How does this:

I Suggest everyone who is using scar to bot with stop right away

Turn into

Don't use Simba

?

Lol…

From: Brandon
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4689183_460s.jpg

That is what benland100 meant ;)

I think I just died haha!

From: Nebula
How does this:

I Suggest everyone who is using scar to bot with stop right away

Turn into

Don't use Simba

?

Lol…

I asked myself that, and continued to bot :)

where did the guy who wrote this get his source from?

From: Jonno
I asked myself that, and continued to bot :)

Lol did I mis-read?
I read somewhere along this thread that he said don't use smart :P but continue using scar which doesn't use smart (I am actually fairly clueless on this topic, I thought Scar couldn't use Smart)

From: R4nd0m
Lol did I mis-read?
I read somewhere along this thread that he said don't use smart :P but continue using scar which doesn't use smart (I am actually fairly clueless on this topic, I thought Scar couldn't use Smart)

I understood it as stop using scar (which I never was), so I continued to bot. Then people got onto stop using smart? Had some concerns but didn't stop me. Then read Benlands quote, brushed off the worries.

Edit: Now I'm confused. Oh well, I'll ignore I ever looked at this thread :p

either way its runescape which in the great grand scheme of things might be disappointing if you get banned but life will go on, and there will always be more accounts to bot

Move on.

From: John
Move on.

[YOUTUBE]zzhVgWwS_gM&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

I hope this is just some random bollocks trying to scare people for whatever reason.

Really can't be bothered for VM's and the likes, unless I play legit more and bot while afk. :O Could reignite my old passion for the game.

Please can someone tell me how to disable SMART? Thank you! <3

You'll get instantly banned upon login with other bots, a while before you get banned for them seeing SMART

Does Jagex have a Warden like feature in their client? If they do then we should worry :S

From: Sirenia
Does Jagex have a Warden like feature in their client? If they do then we should worry :S

uhh no? the game isn't clienside, so people aren't doing the same methods as installed games, this isn't blizzard -.-

they have better systems, of click detection etc.. something blizzard should add because people are making thousands of USD using autoit scripts that use static clicking and zero randomization on times.. on D3

Meh. People, stop being so paranoic… There's nothing happening.

From: IuseSimba2bot
Lol…. Just in case JaGex creeps into my computer search for my simba folders and such, I put a TON of Porn in the folder with my scripts so JaGex will be in for a treat.



Heheheheh

lol

From: Jakee
Alright so it's been answered, any mod or admin can feel free to lock it up.

Agreed!

Reading this thread has made me try to picture the people behind the computers making these replies.

It can either be:

A. Chinese sweatshop manager who know no engrish.
B. A 12 year old kids sleepover where everyone is vision impaired.

Red Name > Purple > Yellow > Green

(Lol @ asking who benland was or who Freddy's source is.)

So if your name is green, stop botting because you'll be banned.

From: smurg

So if your name is green, stop botting because you'll be banned.

Testing if i am green :D

Close thread?

Same discussions over and over. BenLand has confirmed it will have no effect, no more really needs to be said.

utub tags not werkin…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfD5rnkTws

Seems fitting.

Oh well, I already burnt my computer in the backyard along with everything I wore while botting. I'm safe now, they can't get me, just like mother said. He he HAHA ha ahhahahahah HKSD!!@RQ#!@

I've always prided myself of being part of this community due to the lack of idiots who can't read posts and keep on asking stupid questions or making moronic comments (I swear 95% of RsBot's community is full of retards.)

I guess we still do have some undesirables who can't be bothered to do anything other than posting their retarded comment and switching back to the porn tab.

Requesting a lock.

No need for a lock, let the leechers and trolls of villavu believe that they will be banned.

At least the prices will increase by a good 5% for a while.

I like how all these idiots don't realize this when using SMART.


Benland100 is a reliable source, he made it.
I wish RSBuddy was back so they can take all the retards back with them.

I'm a paranoid schizophrenic, so when I read this thread… I flipped my shit and took about 5mg of xanax.
Then I read BenLand100's comment… Everything went better than expected.

Ah okay this is chill.. I love how a mention of a ban gets people freaking

I can't say that this didn't scare me at first :(

Meh, if they ban a low level, whatever. If they ban my main, I'll just quit. They can say goodbye to my subscription XD