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http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?16,17,65,63788998,goto,1
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Optimus

Some source info about Optimus v2 ^

There was another topic on the Runescape forums about this.
It said that the main goal for Optimus v2 was to get rid of the major injection/reflection bots. Removing the color bots was just a side task of it.

It has also been confirmed by Jacmob that the bot nuke is comming end June or begin July and the change of getting delayed was very low.

Im not making another thread to ask what's going on, this thread is ment to give you guys some more info about Optimus v2 :)

Interesting, I think how were a 'side project' probably meaning we don't have a clue how to stop them, were just saying that we are trying :D
Mat

From: Mat
Interesting, I think how were a 'side project' probably meaning we don't have a clue how to stop them, were just saying that we are trying :D
Mat

That might be true lol ^^

The bot nuke is comming this next week.. July 02- July 08..

I am the bot nuke….I am Iron Man….


The only people who know for sure if and when this nuke is coming out is Jagex

Hope we will know the official date. I need to invest some money :P

From: ashaman88
I am the bot nuke….I am Iron Man….


The only people who know for sure if and when this nuke is coming out is Jagex

Exactly, that's why I'm giving out dates..

From: Ucantseemebot
The bot nuke is comming this next week.. July 02- July 08..

How do you know ?:)

From: t0b1as
How do you know ?:)

I dont hang out with Jagex Moderators for nothing..

Just realized who Jacmob was… So we're a side project. Doubt anything will happen to us.

From: F33NY
Just realized who Jacmob was… So we're a side project. Doubt anything will happen to us.

To be honest, I do think something will hapen to color bots.
When the first bot nuke came everybody was like aah Jagex can't do us anything. They won't be able to shut down the bots.
But hey, they did shut down the bots for a few months.
The goal of the first bot nuke was aimed at reflection and injection, this time it's including the color bots to.

From: t0b1as
To be honest, I do think something will hapen to color bots.
When the first bot nuke came everybody was like aah Jagex can't do us anything. They won't be able to shut down the bots.
But hey, they did shut down the bots for a few months.
The goal of the first bot nuke was aimed at reflection and injection, this time it's including the color bots to.

But it's finishing off injection and reflection bots. I don't think they'll shut us down for too long. Reflection and Injection for sure, probably done for. But not color. They're still figuring us out; hence us being a "side project".

I believe the current reflection/injection bots could be whipped out for sure, but I doubt all will be taken down for quite some time. If anyone were to bounce back after the nuke I'd put my money on someone over at MITB, some very talented people there.

As for an attack on us "screen-scrapers" I openly accept your challenge, Jagex, and I look forward to seeing what you have up your sleeve, if anything. Whether or not you make a devastating blow on SRL I do assure you that we (or atleast some of us) are looking forward to the challenge. :) “En Garde!”

From: t0b1as
How do you know ?:)

From: Flight
I believe the current reflection/injection bots could be whipped out for sure, but I doubt all will be taken down for quite some time. If anyone were to bounce back after the nuke I'd put my money on someone over at MITB, some very talented people there.

As for an attack on us "screen-scrapers" I openly accept your challenge, Jagex, and I look forward to seeing what you have up your sleeve, if anything. Whether or not you make a devastating blow on SRL I do assure you that we (or atleast some of us) are looking forward to the challenge. :) “En Garde!”

And people like me will be backing up each other.. Not like jagex where they each have a task and if they failed, they failed..

From: Flight
I believe the current reflection/injection bots could be whipped out for sure, but I doubt all will be taken down for quite some time. If anyone were to bounce back after the nuke I'd put my money on someone over at MITB, some very talented people there.

As for an attack on us "screen-scrapers" I openly accept your challenge, Jagex, and I look forward to seeing what you have up your sleeve, if anything. Whether or not you make a devastating blow on SRL I do assure you that we (or atleast some of us) are looking forward to the challenge. :) “En Garde!”

What makes you think that Jagex can wipe the current reflection/injection bots?
They've so far been able to get back up. There even was a bot that claimed to be up after less than a month but because of legal issues they couldn't release it( of course there is no proof of this but it could be true).

…Until they roll out black and white RS Im not too worried about the effectiveness of simba :P

The fact that we've been labeled a "side project" just further boosts my confidence haha

Well guys I would have to guess that this nuke will take place after the 4th due to the fact lag will be a slight side effect. I know they won't want to have lagg on the 4th of july.

From: t0b1as
To be honest, I do think something will hapen to color bots.
When the first bot nuke came everybody was like aah Jagex can't do us anything. They won't be able to shut down the bots.
But hey, they did shut down the bots for a few months.
The goal of the first bot nuke was aimed at reflection and injection, this time it's including the color bots to.

We were running the day after the nuke, they never really touched us. Injection/Reflection is easier to take out than color.

I can't imagine color bots stopping. If you can click a color that's all you need. Sometimes not even that.

From: Kyle Undefined
We were running the day after the nuke, they never really touched us. Injection/Reflection is easier to take out than color.

I understand that injection/reflection bots are easyer to stop for a wile. But stop them for ever?

hehe I hope that it comes soon, reflection bots are really annoying :S

And I'm pretty sure it wont affect colout bots

Word of advice, stock up on most primary resources and you might see a dramatic profit!
This includes:Pure essence, dragon bones, baby dragon bones, etc as things gold farmed like this may bump up a few gp's! Thats just my fun fact of the day!

From: t0b1as
I understand that injection/reflection bots are easyer to stop for a wile. But stop them for ever?

They would have to mix up hooks and such.. to be honest I've seen people years ago post exactly how jagex can completely stop those bots, and it seems pretty easy.. on top of that they're extremely easy to detect

Guys what's a good item to invest on that is heavily botted by injection bots. I know dragon bones are good but I don't have the cash to buy a whole lot of them, so it needs to be fairly cheap.. Anything else? Willow logs? lol

From: skillzmatic
Guys what's a good item to invest on that is heavily botted by injection bots. I know dragon bones are good but I don't have the cash to buy a whole lot of them, so it needs to be fairly cheap.. Anything else? Willow logs? lol

Green Hides, Bow Strings , Yew logs and magic logs
Nature runes , Astrual runes as well

Nice to see that we're just a sideproject .
In anyway, in the end they are not able to detect us, because its just a mouse clicking… We can make it as human like as we want :)

I believe Jacmob is going to hit the community very hard… Bot Nuke 2012 will hurt all bot community's. Unlike the last attacks Jagex has done, this time Jacmob has something to prove to Jagex. If he fails, his job is on the line; if he succeeds he will look like a stud.

You think for a moment that Jacmob hasn't thought of everything we've thought of? He's going to implement everything he can to stop us for a long period of time. Side project or not, Jacmobs job is on the line…

So prepare for a real hard hit soon, I'd guess its going to happen on a Monday after 4th of july. Its going to hit everyone hard & everything will all be different for a long period of time.

My guess is if it takes 2months for everyone to get over it, it gives Jagex another 2 months to attack back and counter everything we're doing to learn and adapt in the change.

From: po2n star
I believe Jacmob is going to hit the community very hard… Bot Nuke 2012 will hurt all bot community's. Unlike the last attacks Jagex has done, this time Jacmob has something to prove to Jagex. If he fails, his job is on the line; if he succeeds he will look like a stud.

You think for a moment that Jacmob hasn't thought of everything we've thought of? He's going to implement everything he can to stop us for a long period of time. Side project or not, Jacmobs job is on the line…

So prepare for a real hard hit soon, I'd guess its going to happen on a Monday after 4th of july. Its going to hit everyone hard & everything will all be different for a long period of time.

My guess is if it takes 2months for everyone to get over it, it gives Jagex another 2 months to attack back and counter everything we're doing to learn and adapt in the change.

I think you're severely over-estimating Jacmob…

From: Flight
I think you're severely over-estimating Jacmob…

Possibly, but we'll see. I hope injection bots go down for a good while, I bought a lot of thing's out so I'm hoping I'll be able to double the money I invested.

This will be interesting, but they cant completely stop reflection bots and injection bots, There are some insanely talented people who will ways around jagex, might not be in a day, or a week but they will come back guaranteed. If not alwell theres always colour haha.

From: Flight
I believe the current reflection/injection bots could be whipped out for sure, but I doubt all will be taken down for quite some time. If anyone were to bounce back after the nuke I'd put my money on someone over at MITB, some very talented people there.

As for an attack on us "screen-scrapers" I openly accept your challenge, Jagex, and I look forward to seeing what you have up your sleeve, if anything. Whether or not you make a devastating blow on SRL I do assure you that we (or atleast some of us) are looking forward to the challenge. :) “En Garde!”

:f: Bring it on Fagex!

We will wait and see how things happens
Just be patient and prepared for the unknown

for me:
I transferred all the wealth ( around 8m lol ) already and still running Agility script till 99

Can't wait for the nuke to get here.
Im really curious how bad it's going to be ^^

If you plan for the worse you wont be as surprised the day it hits….

Secondly, the entire idea of setting us back two months could be the entire idea of Jagex to constantly bot nuke every 2-3 months…. I'd recon it would be costly and doubt that would happen because I thought this Nuke was to happen, what back in May?

But again I forsee ALOT of accounts getting banned; that will help stabilize the market too… Be careful what everyone buys, but good luck hope to see the nuke soon enough so we can start to counter it.

From: Flight
I think you're severely over-estimating Jacmob…

This. He hasn't shown anything that's worth being worried about. Trust me, if he had something up his sleeve, his ego would of let it slip out by now.

From: Kyle Undefined
This. He hasn't shown anything that's worth being worried about. Trust me, if he had something up his sleeve, his ego would of let it slip out by now.

He may be under a NDA which forces him to not allow to much info out.

I don't think they are going to do any nuke. If they want to ban gold farmers, it is easy to find them and ban with player reports. I don't think they want to stop the after market, so more players get attracted to runescape. For example, a player don't have bandos armour, spend $20 and buy it, they will stick to the game, bcs they invested the money.

Honestly if they do anything color would be the first to recover, its the easiest to fix (Nothing to fix… just new colors/uptext)

Injection may be down for a bit.

I cant imagine a full blown bot nuke happening ever. Last nuke was a failure for jagex from a financial stand point. Alot of the botters had paid account that after the nuke jagex wasnt getting any money from. If my memory serves me right didnt they sell part of the company because of money problems after the last nuke. Weather they admit it or not bots are good for jagex to a certain extent. Just not as many as we have now. With that said i just wonder how slow of a learner they are. I guess time will tell.

From: t0b1as
What makes you think that Jagex can wipe the current reflection/injection bots?
They've so far been able to get back up. There even was a bot that claimed to be up after less than a month but because of legal issues they couldn't release it( of course there is no proof of this but it could be true).

Umm there is proof that Jacmob did it.. Jagex promised a job to whoever could rebuild bots within 1 month of the nuke. That's how he got his job over at Jagex… And i also heard rumors of him showing it off at Runefest.

is it safe to continue botting, or should we give it a week or two?

From: kazzos
is it safe to continue botting, or should we give it a week or two?

It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to just hang low for a few days or a week or so. I've just been doing casual stuff in RS lately like mining the daily supply of red sandstone and a bunch of Castle Wars. Playing legit for long enough will give me some script ideas to pursue after the nuke.

Can't wait for the excitement ;)

From: wyo64
I cant imagine a full blown bot nuke happening ever. Last nuke was a failure for jagex from a financial stand point. Alot of the botters had paid account that after the nuke jagex wasnt getting any money from. If my memory serves me right didnt they sell part of the company because of money problems after the last nuke. Weather they admit it or not bots are good for jagex to a certain extent. Just not as many as we have now. With that said i just wonder how slow of a learner they are. I guess time will tell.

I strongly agree, especially now, Jagex has shown the runescape community their true colors. Through such updates like SoF. If they completely remove the bots that are paying them their monthly salary, they wont have any salary to gain. Yeah, i believe that is correct, they did sell part of their company just to compensate for the loss of profits. Considering Runescape is full of botters alike, their not only nuking the botters, but they're nuking the their own game, and their own profits.

The reason why I believe they want bots to continue to pay and thrive in this game is because I had a permanent ban, and this ban was lifted in a matter 4 days. I had been paying for Runescape membership for an entire year. So im assuming they quashed the ban simply because of the fact that I pay on a consistent monthly basis. Well played Jagex, well played.

I just want a nuke so I can do some easy merching. I didn't have any money during the first nuke, but now I'm ready ;)

From: Andres
I just want a nuke so I can do some easy merching. I didn't have any money during the first nuke, but now I'm ready ;)

well good luck with that..i got some botted resources that im not going to sell until after the nuke happens and prices rise a bit..

From: Ucantseemebot
well good luck with that..i got some botted resources that im not going to sell until after the nuke happens and prices rise a bit..

Won't you get rid of those resources? They may be suspicious of botting activity

From: YesMan
Won't you get rid of those resources? They may be suspicious of botting activity

I'm not cause I only "gold farmed" on a noob account in f2p and if it gets banned, watever but if it doesnt then i transfer to my main account..after all it's not a lot, its only 25m..

That's a lot for me :o

From: YesMan
That's a lot for me :o

If it survives, i might spend it on herblore since that a skill which i only have at 35..lol

From: Ucantseemebot
well good luck with that..i got some botted resources that im not going to sell until after the nuke happens and prices rise a bit..

I have bought so many resources, spent over 100M. That's so far, might spend even more.

From: shstiger2009
I have bought so many resources, spent over 100M. That's so far, might spend even more.

well i wish luck, if you make a lot of profits, share some with me..lol.

From: Ucantseemebot
If it survives, i might spend it on herblore since that a skill which i only have at 35..lol

I cleaned herbs to my 99 herblore and doing it for a friend now as well. 54-90 in a matter of days.

From: Juggalo812
I cleaned herbs to my 99 herblore and doing it for a friend now as well. 54-90 in a matter of days.

hey can you help me reach a higher lvl to herblore?? if you can im going to pm you..to stop posting here..

I can't wait for the bot nuke just so there will be an actual challenge, The current system is lol's to work around (injection/reflection wise).

From a programmer perspective anyways I look forward to it :)

From: Stuart
I can't wait for the bot nuke just so there will be an actual challenge, The current system is lol's to work around (injection/reflection wise).

From a programmer perspective anyways I look forward to it :)

hey stuart :) How's merchanting.net? Or are you another Stuart

I bought my 1million needles in trembling anticipation for the imminent bot nuke muahahaha

From: ashaman88
I bought my 1million needles in trembling anticipation for the imminent bot nuke muahahaha

lol 1 million needles? hahaha they seem pretty useless XD

From: ashaman88
I bought my 1million needles in trembling anticipation for the imminent bot nuke muahahaha

With tool belt already having needle, anyone going to buy it ? All new players have tools in tool belt.

^ Good point, who buys needle nowadays lol

From: MasterCrimez
hey stuart :) How's merchanting.net? Or are you another Stuart

Yep i'm that Stuart :p

Going alrite i've been helping Gregdw out with "UReflect" and we just got World2Screen done. I'm working on creating a better updater/bot framework atm though :)

Also working on a reflection viewer tool so people can find hooks easier :)

From: RuneDragon
With tool belt already having needle, anyone going to buy it ? All new players have tools in tool belt.

Or so you think…muahahaha!!!

From: Stuart
Yep i'm that Stuart :p

Going alrite i've been helping Gregdw out with "UReflect" and we just got World2Screen done. I'm working on creating a better updater/bot framework atm though :)

Also working on a reflection viewer tool so people can find hooks easier :)

Sounds nice and interesting :) Good luck with your projects :D

From: Excel
I strongly agree, especially now, Jagex has shown the runescape community their true colors. Through such updates like SoF. If they completely remove the bots that are paying them their monthly salary, they wont have any salary to gain. Yeah, i believe that is correct, they did sell part of their company just to compensate for the loss of profits. Considering Runescape is full of botters alike, their not only nuking the botters, but they're nuking the their own game, and their own profits.

The reason why I believe they want bots to continue to pay and thrive in this game is because I had a permanent ban, and this ban was lifted in a matter 4 days. I had been paying for Runescape membership for an entire year. So im assuming they quashed the ban simply because of the fact that I pay on a consistent monthly basis. Well played Jagex, well played.

uhem… If they disable the ability to bot (break the bots), and they DON'T BAN you for botting, then you are technically "still paying their monthly" salary". Because there is a 90% chance that your not going to cancel your membership if they disable bots.

If I couldnt bot, i would likely sell my gp and quit. Not to say that will happen, color-based bots are up in no time at all.

Nothing I didn't already know about Optimus ;)

Even if injection gets working again, the whole point of Optimus Part 2 is to be able to repeatedly nuke injection every time they get fixed:

From: Mod Philip

Hence the, 'keep on kicking them while they are down,' etc.

Color and OpenGL will be the only future for botting

Looks like we'll see a new rivalry between Simba, Scar, RiD, Runedream, TriBot, and a couple other very small color bots I cba naming. Let the games begin, and let the geepeez roll in!

yeah it seems they got us tagged atm with the applet:

The top navigation bar will now open the "subscribe" link inside the game applet rather than loading up a new webpage (with a compatible browser).

thats from the latest patch notes

Wow this just plain sucks. Yesterday when the social slayer update came out was when I just started getting into simba, unfortunately it was the same day the pre-optimus (Social Slayer update) came, wow I was looking forward to getting 99 Ranged this fucking sucks, an open world came to eyes, suddenly closed before seeing the true light of botting.

From: hunnyitsme3
Wow this just plain sucks. Yesterday when the social slayer update came out was when I just started getting into simba, unfortunately it was the same day the pre-optimus (Social Slayer update) came, wow I was looking forward to getting 99 Ranged this fucking sucks, an open world came to eyes, suddenly closed before seeing the true light of botting.

Give it two days… I bet everything will be fixed by the end of the weekend.

From: Silent SPY
Give it two days… I bet everything will be fixed by the end of the weekend.

Yea I figure so also because the devs do all have lives and jobs but there will be more effort given on the weekend when people have the day to themselves and the night to do whatever to take a break.

I always thought that RS success was because of the bots (I wouldn't do RS without them.) How many users really achieved a max cape without botting?

So the real question is why are there botters? Because it takes a insane amount of time to get to 99! So until getting a 99 or a 120 in Dun. gets faster or more automatic (e.g. RC), bot will be used and tolerated. On the other hand, I feel that Jagex has been working on making the XP gain a bit easier over the last year or so, especially with RC and even FM, but they cannot do it all at once without upsetting the ones who got their 99 "legit."

So I doubt they will ban all users who used bots in the past or the future… It's all in moderation and $ for them.

Selling part of their company is adding pressure for Jagex to generate more income for the new investor, and therefore, using bots in moderation while paying your monthly membership will be tolerated. Maybe I am drinking coolaid, but business wise it does not make sense to eliminate all the bots and cut their earnings at least by half.

BTW, Nuke Day 2 is on the 17th to what I heard.

From: whaevr
…Until they roll out black and white RS Im not too worried about the effectiveness of simba :P

And even then, they have to have 'On Screen' tags letting us know which ore is which and which tree is which, therefore we could just read the tags, making scripting even easier! :)