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Alright so the new formula for your combat is going to be:

(Highest skill level of att/str/range/mage + Defence level + 2)

So the max combat level is 99+99+2 = 200.
And the max pure combat level is 99+1+2 = 102.

Everyone thinks the combat rework will ruin pures but the truth is pures will become an extremely overpowered combat build, since combat levels are based mostly on your defence level.

A maxed 99 Att/99 str/99 hp/99 pray/99 range/99 hp/99 summ/99 mage pure will still only be 102 cb. Currently a maxed pure with those stats would be 101+12 cb in wildy and 113 cb when not.

So please explain to me how pures are going to suck after combat rework, imo they will be the most overpowered combat build, also taking into account duel weilding? 99 attack/strength pure with 2 powerful melee weapons at only 102/200 cb!? Or 99 range with rigour with 2 chaotic crossbows l0l.

basically if your def over 45-65 you are pretty much fucked.

If you are tank you are also fucked.

Basically 1 def pure or 45 def pure will rape like crazzy. As 1/45 def and 99att/str/hp/range/mage/pray/sum is lvl 102,146.

For a little comparison

A current main (assuming similar att/str/hp/def)
Current lvl 60 = lvl 102 maxed 1 def pure
Current lvl 88 = lvl 146 maxed rune pure
Current lvl 100 = lvl 167 maxed bandos pure (which I think its the highest you should go).



But we need to see how the effectiveness of each skill changes.
As with current effectiveness of combat skills. It seems that killing ratio (how strong is the pure compared to main at their same combat) of 1 def pure is wayy higher, and I think rune pure still have a good chance against main at their lvl, but bandos pure are almost equal to their main (but stilll not quite).

I guess we will just have to see :P

From: Main
basically if your def over 45-65 you are pretty much fucked.

If you are tank you are also fucked.

Basically 1 def pure or 45 def pure will rape like crazzy.

Well actually, Jagex has been stating pretty clearly of how big a role Defence will play in the combat rework. It's not the combat level that matters, it's the Defence level. They had an example stating something like a pure with 99 att & str but 1 defence getting steam-rolled by someone half that combat lvl with even 20 or 30 defence.

That should be a clear indication that Defence will be the new offense in RS.

yeah we really need to see how the defence will play out. IF rs gets TOO fair, (i.e no more pures) i think people would get pretty upset.

I am currently making a 1 defence pure,won't be a problem to turn him into a 45 if I get raped a lot :D Got to gloves 5 in recipe for disaster quest and I'm having 1 prayer also. Since prayer won't affect combat level I will probably get 52 and do DT.

From: Main
yeah we really need to see how the defence will play out. IF rs gets TOO fair, (i.e no more pures) i think people would get pretty upset.

Whocares if people with pures get upset? they went pure to upset other people by being op…

:norris:

From: Clairvoyance
I am currently making a 1 defence pure,won't be a problem to turn him into a 45 if I get raped a lot :D Got to gloves 5 in recipe for disaster quest and I'm having 1 prayer also. Since prayer won't affect combat level I will probably get 52 and do DT.

I suggest you wait for a while before spending massive cash and doing quest. But getting pray and summoning lvl up won't hurt :)

From: xtrapsp
Whocares if people with pures get upset? they went pure to upset other people by being op…

:norris:

True… true..

It's been stated that the vast majority of your hitpoints will be from your equipment. In the official combat thread, it was stated that someone with 99 constitution and defence would get 990 hits from const and 15,000 from armor. That means constitution accounts for just over 6% of your hits.

Jagex has said that someone with much lower defence will not stand a chance in a fight.

Also, they have eluded that prayer and summoning will not play a significant role in the new combat system. This is evidenced by the fact that they have been completely removed from the combat formula.

I don't see any way to exploit this,pures are gonna be shit then…I guess you will always have the same levels as the guy you're fighting or you're gonna have massive hp less…

The Equalists, in RuneScape too? Leave the equality to Avatar cartoon, but not RS.. :/ Oh well, that means I'll have to pump up my defence a little bit, maybe to 80…

There is a new blog,you can read it now on official rs site. One of the most interesting things they wrote is :

So, we made the difficult choice to link life point healing directly to the Constitution level of the player. So, if you’re eating food intended for a player of a considerably higher level, we will be limiting the amount of healing it can do. For example, players around level 50 in Constitution should really be eating lobsters. If they choose to eat sharks, they still can, but it won’t heal any more than the lobster will.

We have also given players a significant life point boost if they wear armour appropriate for their level. Wearing appropriate armour can contribute as much as 90% of your total life points; more so if you choose to wield a shield as well. This means that a player with the right armour for their level (assuming that a player’s Defence level is roughly the same as their offensive stat) will have ten to fifteen times the life points of someone wearing no armour at all. The lower the level of the armour, the fewer points it can give you.

I think only low lvl pures will be alive after that update.

30-55(combat)

From: FifthDimension


Everyone thinks the combat rework will ruin pures but the truth is pures will become an extremely overpowered combat build, since combat levels are based mostly on your defence level.

So please explain to me how pures are going to suck after combat rework, imo they will be the most overpowered combat build, also taking into account duel weilding?

Defense will play a major role

Here is a quote to support this:

Pures are not being outlawed in the new system, but it you have chosen not to train your defence, you will find yourself at a disadvantage in combat. It will be much more important to wear armor of the appropriate level for the target you are fighting, as in the new system armour gives you lots more lifepoints. For example, someone with 99 Attack and Strength and 1 Defence will almost certainly get steamrolled by someone with say, 50 Defence.

So basically pures are fucked

If a player with 99 Attack and Strength can get 'steamrolled' by a player with 50 Defense… there's your answer to how pures are going to suck.

Meh, so they're gonna give people 15,000 lifepoints? =.<… Everytime I read about the combat rework I just facepalm harder… if they really are going to give armour such a lifepoints boost that will be one of their stupidest decisions imo. Probably gonna quit after the combat rework, along with a huge chunk of players who have school and are fed up with Jagex's horrible updates.

E: Reading the replies I remembered how badly mains dislike pures for no apparent opinion? Lawl. Pures are built to PK with, and PvP is the biggest single part of the game.