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Neros; what the fuck do you think youre doing?


Sin

2012-06-21 14:58:29

Fuck you neros, selling my scripts without my permission, on top of that, you're making false emails about me?



MY ONLY MSN IS "hax@rsbuddy.com" .



http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/image01kj.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/image02kt.jpg/



Ban him right now, there's SO MUCH EVIDENCE THERE.


A heads up to everyone who "bought" the script, IT DOES NOT WORK, it is an old version.
I have NO clue why you'd go to him to buy it when he wont give you support.

-rep all you want, I don't care, I want this guy dealt with!

Kudos to Ashitaka and po2n star, you two are golden.

Sin

2012-06-21 15:04:41

YoHoJo, Zytex I saw you viewing the thread, do something PLEASE.

Gu3st...

2012-06-21 15:06:28

Please view this thread, fellow moderators: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84907

Neznam

2012-06-21 15:09:32

Hmm how odd, does he honestly think people wouldn't find out?

Not a bright fellow if this is true…

Sin

2012-06-21 15:11:14

Let's get this straight::
The script selling part i'm not too concerned about (I am though, but the script has a major flaw in it), it's the fact that someone is impostering me via an email.
I will end up in trouble because of that shit, and will feel honor bound/guilt ridden to pay back the losses and frankly i dont want to do bs like that.

Brandon

2012-06-21 15:15:34

And how exactly did he get the script? If you sold him a copy from your website, then he's going to go around selling it to get his money back. Yeah it sucks he's selling your work but you're gunna have to patrol sythe too. Too bad it wasn't encrypted :c But only thing to do now is wait.. or at least link us to his profile. Never even seen a Neros around except for some guy introducing himself as neros after finding an account made back in 07. Is he a member? If not then you're gunna have pain getting rid of him because IP bans don't do much.

Based Lord

2012-06-21 15:26:32

Best of Luck. I wish all people were honest and fair :(

Jim

2012-06-21 15:34:33

From: Brandon
And how exactly did he get the script? If you sold him a copy from your website, then he's going to go around selling it to get his money back. Yeah it sucks he's selling your work but you're gunna have to patrol sythe too. Too bad it wasn't encrypted :c But only thing to do now is wait.. or at least link us to his profile. Never even seen a Neros around except for some guy introducing himself as neros after finding an account made back in 07. Is he a member? If not then you're gunna have pain getting rid of him because IP bans don't do much.


This is Nero's profile http://villavu.com/forum/member.php?u=71863

Benny

2012-06-21 15:34:59

Damn Shay that sucks, if there's anything I can do to help even with my newbie status lemme know!

Mjordan

2012-06-21 15:40:51

People like him don't care about a reputation here or getting caught. They're most likely from sythe or RiD and all they care about is making a few quick hundred mills. Obviously he needs to be IP banned.

But Shay, if you're going to sell scripts then you must expect that stuff like this will happen. I'd advise to obfuscate/encrypt the scripts you sell on sythe. I'm not sure about how easy it is, and then you have to deal with having a server, up-time, user/pass, support, and all that junk. But I do remember plenty of people used to do it. Starblaster100 had an extremely popular essence script back in the day (4 or 5 years ago) that I remember was encrypted and had all that stuff. If he could do it then, it's surely possible now.

Ezio Auditore da Firenze

2012-06-21 15:41:08

Sad to hear man, greedy for pixels! Btw hit me a pm about that rc and when u plan on fixing plz.

YoHoJo

2012-06-21 15:43:14

Shay we/I told you a thread is made and mods are discussing.
Yes he will be banned and stuff.

Sin

2012-06-21 15:44:20

From: YoHoJo
Shay we/I told you a thread is made and mods are discussing.
Yes he will be banned and stuff.


There was new evidence, and i needed to tell everyone that the MSN in the screenie is not mine.

YoHoJo

2012-06-21 15:45:55

Yah I don't mind you publisizing it, just know we're working on it.

Sin

2012-06-21 15:47:20

From: YoHoJo
Yah I don't mind you publisizing it, just know we're working on it.


I have no doubt that you aren't <3

P1nky

2012-06-21 15:49:14

Lol…Thanks for the laugh :)

Gucci

2012-06-21 15:59:33

Wow definitely a terrible move by him, hopefully he didn't make a lot of sales

Dannyownz

2012-06-21 17:42:53

What a Jerk…

Flight

2012-06-21 22:38:44

This is where the official Script Manager will come in handy.

Ashaman88

2012-06-22 00:41:54

From: Flight
This is where the official Script Manager will come in handy.


+1 support!


Sorry to hear that sin :(

!_1337_!

2012-06-22 02:12:18

updates will come later. along with the proof that i got lured into this so Po2n Star could use the script to apply for SRL membership. would appreciate an unban YoHoJo. i'll post the proof as soon as you do.

YoHoJo

2012-06-22 02:16:08

I didn't ban you, someone else did.
And so far all evidence strongly points against you.
You can get a chance to try and prove your innocence though.

!_1337_!

2012-06-22 02:18:14

yeah. i admit i was going to sell it BUT it was a fucking retard move that i probably wouldn't have gone through with when i realised what i was actually about to do.

but po2n star originally asked me if i had scripts for trade, i was baked and said yes.

I and Shay know exactly what he was doing

here's a quote from our skype convo actually.

[3:55:34 AM] Dan: hmk
[3:57:03 AM] Dan: i love how po2n kinda framed me lol. he was all like "oh got any scripts to trade?" obviously i was like uh huh -_-
[3:57:16 AM] Shay.: Hook line and sinker tbh
[3:57:18 AM] Dan: yeah
[3:57:30 AM] Shay.: Hmm tbh
[3:57:32 AM] Dan: i admit it was a bit of a dick move
[3:57:32 AM] Shay.: I doubt you're lying
[3:57:51 AM] Dan: nahh being as genuine as i can here man
[3:57:57 AM] Shay.: screenshare
[3:58:00 AM] *** Call from Shay. ***
[3:58:38 AM] Dan: yeah he's missed out pm's
[3:58:46 AM] Shay.: read it
[3:58:51 AM] Shay.: He was buying scripts to become members
[3:58:53 AM] *** Call ended, duration 00:52 ***
[3:59:13 AM] Dan: ahh i see. so he's trying to get me to sell him your script
[3:59:18 AM] Dan: so he can apply for members with it.
[3:59:22 AM] Dan: fucking dick tbh
[3:59:24 AM] Shay.: That's what im thinking

Brandon

2012-06-22 02:24:53

From: !_1337_!
yeah. i admit i was going to sell it BUT it was a fucking retard move that i probably wouldn't have gone through with when i realised what i was actually about to do.

but po2n star originally asked me if i had scripts for trade, i was baked and said yes.

I and Shay know exactly what he was doing

here's a quote from our skype convo actually.



This the same guy? http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84787

Either way what you did was wrong so it should be up to a person's discretion that they unban you even with sufficient proof. Yes you were probably lured but I don't think you wouldn't have the sense to know what he was up to.

!_1337_!

2012-06-22 02:28:43

From: Brandon
This the same guy? http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84787

Either way what you did was wrong so it should be up to a person's discretion that they unban you even with sufficient proof. Yes you were probably lured but I don't think you wouldn't have the sense to know what he was up to.


at first i didn't realize man, i had been smoking super silver haze :p
later on when i told him i'd sell for 20m i kinda realized i was gonna be biting the hand that feeds me. so i held back and didn't go through with it.

As soon as i realized what the impacts of this would be i ceased trade negotiations

Also. i know that even saying i'd sell it was the wrong move to make, and i accept full responsibility for the actions i made.
i would just like to make it clear that it was not my intention to try and leak a script and cause harm to the author (Shay ofc)

I respect everyone's intellectual property as it should be.
i will also be finding out who the imposter is as that would have affected me and Ashitaski really bad… there was alot of rares + $700 at stake

Based Lord

2012-06-22 02:36:44

I don't understand how you can get "Lured" into selling something that isn't yours

Benny

2012-06-22 02:37:46

The prospect of making bank perhaps?

!_1337_!

2012-06-22 02:39:30

From: Based Lord
I don't understand how you can get "Lured" into selling something that isn't yours

well you will see as soon as i get unbanned and i can post proof. but basically, he was wanting to "trade" scripts with me, then as soon as i say yeah i have scripts to trade. he reports me. im sure the thread in members section explains more than this one. We also need shay to get back on.

From: -Benny
The prospect of making bank perhaps?


and no benny, 20m is not bank. i currently hold over 4bill on runescape -_-

i already said i made a fucking stupid decision and decided to not go through with it. i make more in 3 hours with Shay's script than that trade was worth.

i was high and being retarded. but hey i exposed someone trying to buy scripts and use them as their own to apply for members. yet i get the bad image?

Benny

2012-06-22 02:40:51

To be fair that's pretty g but yeah. Fundamentally we should just agree that script selling is not allowed here

Based Lord

2012-06-22 02:41:23

From: !_1337_!
well you will see as soon as i get unbanned and i can post proof.

and no benny, 20m is not bank. i currently hold over 4bill on runescape -_-

Seems unreasonable but I guess it is possible

!_1337_!

2012-06-22 02:44:22

From: Based Lord
Seems unreasonable but I guess it is possible


doesn't make sense.


From: -Benny
To be fair that's pretty g but yeah. Fundamentally we should just agree that script selling is not allowed here


Yeah, i just totally let it blow over my head. i regret it as it has caused alot of upset and unnecessary disruption.
i can assure it won't be happening again though.

Benny

2012-06-22 02:55:16

Best bet is to provide some seriously solid evidence when you're unbanned for a bit

!_1337_!

2012-06-22 02:57:29

From: -Benny
Best bet is to provide some seriously solid evidence when you're unbanned for a bit


yeah, im sure he tried to buy scripts off someone else though, because shay screenshared a thread which highlighted the subject, obviously someone knows more about the situation.

i can't stress enough that im in the wrong for what i have done and will take due punishment. but i think there's a more serious incident in the picture too and i would also like too see justice for that.

i mean c'mon i could have took the script and applied for members with it. right?
and did i?
no.

this is like the first time iv'e stepped outa line here. feel so idiotic that i even let myself fall into this trap

Benny

2012-06-22 03:02:33

Well then how does this relate to the other thread about a potential 'Shay' imposter yet again?
… somethings up

Neznam

2012-06-22 03:10:21

Hmm this just seems very odd.
Seen another thread this person is being "accused" of a bannable offense…

Based Lord

2012-06-22 03:13:08

I'm sure you would get caught regardless for attempting to use someone's script to apply.

!_1337_!

2012-06-22 03:14:38

this was discussed this morning on skype with shay but he had to go to bed for his exam today, once he gets back on everything will be sorted fully. this is why im telling people to not jump to conclusions about both incidents.

the imposter is someone i came across on sythe months ago while i was looking for Shay's sales (S1n at the time), i never removed the addy from my msn, so today when ashitaki was wanting to trade with me and asked for an mm i decided to give the "so called" Shay a message on msn because i knew i could trust him to mm shit (why wouldn't i trust him?) and i don't use sythe so i didn't want to use an mm from there…

turns out i was wrong and it was an imposter and i get called a scammer.

ashitaki asked for a pm off shay on the forums, this is when he found out about the imposter and all this surfaced, naturally the blame got pinned on me. but im only in the same position as ashitaki.

From: Based Lord
I'm sure you would get caught regardless for attempting to use someone's script to apply.


it's a private script that is not on here. so he wouldn't really.


From: Neznam
Hmm this just seems very odd.
Seen another thread this person is being "accused" of a bannable offense…


yeah it ties in with the imposter bit here.

Based Lord

2012-06-22 03:16:41

The creator of the script is obviously on here and I doubt he would let someone get away with that nor would the people voting

Neznam

2012-06-22 03:23:24

From: !_1337_!
this was discussed this morning on skype with shay but he had to go to bed for his exam today, once he gets back on everything will be sorted fully. this is why im telling people to not jump to conclusions about both incidents.

the imposter is someone i came across on sythe months ago while i was looking for Shay's sales (S1n at the time), i never removed the addy from my msn, so today when ashitaki was wanting to trade with me and asked for an mm i decided to give the "so called" Shay a message on msn because i knew i could trust him to mm shit,(why wouldn't i trust him?) turns out i was wrong and it was an imposter

ashitaki asked for a pm off shay on the forums, this is when he found out about the imposter and all this surfaced, naturally the blame got pinned on me. but im only in the same position as ashitaki.



it's a private script that is not on here. so he wouldn't really.




yeah it ties in with the imposter bit here.


The only thing off with your story is that in that thread, between you and ashiataka (or whatever im sry), ashi says that you claimed you knew the "imposter shay" for ages when you tried to use him.

If he can provide picture proof of you saying that, then your story about claiming you did not know that the scammer shay was on your msn is FALSE, proving you indeed tried to scam and who knows what else…

not accusing, just pointing it out

!_1337_!

2012-06-22 03:27:26

From: Neznam
The only thing off with your story is that in that thread, between you and ashiataka (or whatever im sry), ashi says that you claimed you knew the "imposter shay" for ages when you tried to use him.


If he can provide picture proof of you saying that, then your story about claiming you did not know that the scammer shay was on your msn is FALSE, proving you indeed tried to scam and who knows what else…

not accusing, just pointing it out


yeah i said i knew him because i had talked to him for a few weeks while i was searching for the shop, i didn't know that it wasn't the real Shay as i only use my MSN for trading and i don't really do much of that.

it was a serious misjudgment by me, i just instantly thought that it was the real shay when i saw him online… i had no reason to believe it was an imposter (why would i knowingly have one added)…. so as soon as ashi PM'd Shay and shay said no, he hadn't been on msn. ashi branded me a scammer. which is actually understandable… i was shocked too. i was about to hand $700 to an imposter -_-

all i can do is fight to prove my innocence. iv'e lost a full nights sleep over trying to sort this.

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-22 17:16:30

From: !_1337_!
yeah, im sure he tried to buy scripts off someone else though, because shay screenshared a thread which highlighted the subject, obviously someone knows more about the situation.


There is a thread in the Member section about someone posting this info. Tbh, Sin shouldn't have shown you that.

Anyway, this whole situation is confusing.

Ashihtaka

2012-06-24 01:24:11

this thread might help understanding:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84632

(starting at post #18)

Neznam

2012-07-04 03:04:00

Any update as to whats happened so far? Guilty… not?

!_1337_!

2012-07-04 03:09:23

well nobody has bothered to unban me or ask for any further evidence in my defense. original ban is still due to be lifted on the 8th.

i love how the other guy failed to provide evidence of me
"knowing the imposter was an imposter and using him to scam"

i feel like i took on in the ass here. tbf.

[S]paz

2012-07-04 03:47:18

Tbh if you are going to be unbanned in 4 days, let it go? Take it "on the ass"?

Neznam

2012-07-04 04:19:52

From: !_1337_!
well nobody has bothered to unban me or ask for any further evidence in my defense. original ban is still due to be lifted on the 8th.

i love how the other guy failed to provide evidence of me
"knowing the imposter was an imposter and using him to scam"

i feel like i took on in the ass here. tbf.


It was the discrpancy in your story. In one thread your statment said A, in the other thread it was A1. Similar but different. Just pointing it out.

!_1337_!

2012-07-04 04:49:41

From: [S]paz
Tbh if you are going to be unbanned in 4 days, let it go? Take it "on the ass"?


why do you think iv'e been offline for a while, even on this account? because i already said i deserved the offense for trying to sell shay's private script.


From: Neznam
It was the discrpancy in your story. In one thread your statment said A, in the other thread it was A1. Similar but different. Just pointing it out.


because the 2-3 threads made were not ever meant to be related anyway.

offense 1) selling script.

offense 2) scamming (which is where the whole impersonation thing came into play)

the 2 got linked because the middleman in the scam was impersonating shay and i "nearly" sold one of shay's scripts to po2n star. which he was going to apply for srl members with unknowing to me.

the guy who accused me of scamming couldn't provide any logs from msn or pics of me supposedly impersonating shay (the impersonator is the guy i met on sythe and left in my msn contacts because i stopped using msn and went to skype)
So when i used msn to try and do this trade with Ashitaka or whatever he is called. The impersonator shay was online. I didn't know he was the impersonator from all that time ago so i decided to ask him if he would mm for us. then when ashitaka PM'd shay on here to verify he would mm, shay obviously replied "WTF u talking about" because the guy on msn was an impersonator.

ashitaka went and posted about me being a scammer, when in reality i was in the same position as he was because i too would have been scammed by the impersonator. i honestly don't know why anyone would think im a scammer. iv'e done trades with NCDS and a few others :/

i even asked the guy if we could go 50/50 and i'd go first, and he requested an MM, so i asked the person i thought was shay.

then all this happened.

my actual ban is for the script sales, which i totally agree with and as discussed with shay was something i did while i was highly intoxicated and was a moronic idea.

grats

2012-07-04 20:00:49

From: YoHoJo
Shay we/I told you a thread is made and mods are discussing.
Yes he will be banned and stuff.


Will he get the death sentence?


From: !_1337_!
well nobody has bothered to unban me or ask for any further evidence in my defense. original ban is still due to be lifted on the 8th.

i love how the other guy failed to provide evidence of me
"knowing the imposter was an imposter and using him to scam"

i feel like i took on in the ass here. tbf.


here's what I think about your defense

how many accounts do you have.. you sad little man

Jos3ph

2012-07-07 12:29:16

Let me bring the Death Sentence…

You messaged me out of no where asking to buy RSC party hats…A game I haven't played in nearly 7 years.

Yes I was a big staker back in 03, maybe the biggest back in the day but those days have came and gone.

I asked you if you had scripts to trade not scripts of others…I don't want to buy someone elses script if that is the case I'll buy the script from the actual maker….
Second of all you kept messaging me daily asking for me to buy the script…

You wanted 35mill for the script and I wanted to see how serious you were so I said would you take less? You then wanted 20m; I stopped playing with you after I found the orginal script maker on the forum….

Sorry man but come on! Dont re-sell soemone elses script and for the record if he tried to sell me the script how many other people has he tried to do this to or have done this to???

Now proof? I can post every bit of it but heres someething for now…I clearly didnt set you up I asked if you had scripts to trade didn't ask for someone elses script.

^^

You cans see I asked if you had any scripts to trade, didnt ask for a script from another user…

Again your still pushing a script you know you didn't make; lets stop and ask our selfs, how many times has this script been resold?
So where giving him a 2week ban? to allow him to come back and resell his script again, not to mention all his other accounts he's got on the forums as we can see he's posting…
I didnt want to get into the middle of this but at the same token man up when you are in the wrong…

321

2012-07-07 12:39:45

huh, if he made a new account would that be avoiding ban?

Caotom

2012-07-07 12:44:32

From: 321
huh, if he made a new account would that be avoiding ban?


Eh, technically yes. People starting over and try and make good in the SRL community is not an uncommon thing. The main thing is that he is exposed and he no longer has access to members-only scripts and a trusted name.
I am saying this under the assumption that he is indeed at fault here, if he is not then I am sorry for all this but the evidence above looks like a pretty solid case against you Neros.

Besides he needed to use the other account so that he could come and appeal his ban on the forums.

~Caotom

321

2012-07-07 12:51:26

From: Caotom
Eh, technically yes. People starting over and try and make good in the SRL community is not an uncommon thing. The main thing is that he is exposed and he no longer has access to members-only scripts and a trusted name.
I am saying this under the assumption that he is indeed at fault here, if he is not then I am sorry for all this but the evidence above looks like a pretty solid case against you Neros.

Besides he needed to use the other account so that he could come and appeal his ban on the forums.

~Caotom


ah, thanks for clearing that up

Sin

2012-07-07 12:56:00

Old version is old.
Ty po2n for clearing it up!