SRL Archive - RuneScape News and General

Original thread was in High level forums, a maxed player copy-pasted the post to the RSOF, and a ingame screenshot was given out as well. Conversation is between Woox16(for those of you who dont know him… look him up…) and Mod Jacmob.

About time, there was a technician mod who confirmed the nuke about 3 weeks ago and I guess its solid now.

Looks like rare prices will continue to fall then. I've been waiting on the perfect time to start buying, but at this point I'm not sure there will be one.

As for the nuke itself, I'm glad it's finally coming. I'm not worried about my own accounts, and with any luck there will be less competition in the hotspots.

No injection botting for me then :/

Won't effect color, correct?

From: Sokkr7
Won't effect color, correct?

We are not sure, but probaly with a ''simple update'' we can continue botting. Also i think this botnuke will be vs the GoldFarmers, i mean yes ofcourse injection bots will stop working etc. But i think it will ban loads of GoldFarmers.

Nooooooo, Lucky buying the dung bot wasn't working yesterday so I didn't get it, have to do it legit then I guess :(

Is this another one of those "we will eliminate 99% of the botters" bs?

From: Neznam
Is this another one of those "we will eliminate 99% of the botters" bs?

Pretty much. Congratulations, you just won a Mulla Dulla.

Jacmob suggests that the nuke won't only make it hard/impossible to bot(for some group at least), but it will also ban the people botting currently. Hmm…

I for one hope it goes ahead…
The clan or botters exposed recently made me seriously think how many of those "clans" haven't been exposed yet. Seems the more you scratch the surface the more crap you uncover.

Can't wait for this. Maybe the economy will stabilize again. ._.

YeaH, thanks God it's coming. It'll affect injection bots a lot. I don't think it'll harm color botting :p

What are the chances Simba will survive it? Because they said 'it wont just effect the reflection/injection bots', hinting at colour/screen-scraping bots!

omg dont they ever learn last time they put a bot nuke on they messed up runescape with serious lagg

Hmm hope they're not targeting me!!

Surely there is some way they can detect that we are using smart or something can't they? I think I read in a update that this was being improved also wasn't it?

I was not around last bot nuke, where colour bots affected? obviously a lot of scripts would have broken but were they fairly easily fixed?

The only risk in simba botting is that the SMART client becomes detectable.

From: masterBB
The only risk in simba botting is that the SMART client becomes detectable.

But with SMART 7.1 coming out, it should be all good

From: [J]ustin
But with SMART 7.1 coming out, it should be all good

Why? The only difference as far as I know is that it get its own process, with it its own memory space. Making it possible to get rid of a jvm.

I hope I wont get banned :o

From: masterBB
The only risk in simba botting is that the SMART client becomes detectable.

At the very worst we will just resort to VM botting? Im worried that they will do it before the bot nuke (or perhaps they have already done it) and store the list of simba users and mass ban them with the rest of the injection bots during the bot nuke (to act as if they can detect both injection and color when in fact all they detected was SMART). Though i think the impact of simba on RS is not significant enough for jagex to even bother about us. Those injection/goldfarming bots would probably be their priority.

From: masterBB
Why? The only difference as far as I know is that it get its own process, with it its own memory space. Making it possible to get rid of a jvm.

IIRC it will now phrase the correct arguments to the client

From: [J]ustin
IIRC it will now phrase the correct arguments to the client

I know that, but that wasn't a fix to just smart 7.1 afaik. iirc Benland stated that smart itself can be detected cause it doesn't run in a browser.

Will this ban my account even if i stop using simba after the nuke?

How many of you guys are gonna stop botting now until the nuke ends?

From: beeb101
Will this ban my account even if i stop using simba after the nuke?

These questions are completely unanswerable I'm afraid. We can only speculate since we do not know 100% certainly how they operate and what they are planning.

When botting there is always a chance you can be banned. Any other claim is false.

From: [S]paz
These questions are completely unanswerable I'm afraid. We can only speculate since we do not know 100% certainly how they operate and what they are planning.

When botting there is always a chance you can be banned. Any other claim is false.

Your close to 100% safe when you bot in an internet browser.

From: masterBB
Your close to 100% safe when you bot in an internet browser.

Close but never 100%. My point was
A)Detection - via reflection or any other methods that Jagex can detect
B)Reports by other players who have guessed you are
C)Bad script leading to spamming for hours doing nothing

Nothing can be 100% safe. Although there are options far safer than others.

I think Runescape have a pretty poor detection system for bots server wise, if you were going to use a system like SPS in WoW you would get banned very fast due it clicks points that arent randomly generated and a walking pattern will quickly appear

I agree, from my experience Jagex do not seem to demonstrate any kind of advanced auto detection methods. A lot (and some people are convinced) it is random Jmod walking and player reports only which contribute to bans.

Hmmm i think ill stop botting till a new one comes out after bot nuke…. Thanks for the heads up :L

Definitely not going to stop botting. I had my account running 24/7 for more than 1 week already :p

From: [S]paz
I agree, from my experience Jagex do not seem to demonstrate any kind of advanced auto detection methods.

You remember the package bots mate? It's not so smart to do that anymore ;)

Will be interesting to see what happens around July!

From: masterBB
You remember the package bots mate? It's not so smart to do that anymore ;)

Very true, guess i'll shut up now :P

From: masterBB
You remember the package bots mate? It's not so smart to do that anymore ;)

Mind explaining what's package bots? :confused:
Or :google:? :p

look likes time for play legit

I don't believe Jacmob.
And who says this is real?
Is it in the runescape forums?
Probably it still won't affect colorbots at all.

Finally.. There are way too many bots in the game right now.. with injection gone the economy will stabilize again. =)

From: ABC!
What are the chances Simba will survive it? Because they said 'it wont just effect the reflection/injection bots', hinting at colour/screen-scraping bots!

I remember them saying this nuke was mainly for colour/screen scraping bots, but with the return of injection, I'm not sure who the current target really is.

I'm weirdly looking forward to the nuke. xD

From: MasterCrimez
I don't believe Jacmob.
And who says this is real?
Is it in the runescape forums?
Probably it still won't affect colorbots at all.

Lets see
the private message screenshot was taken place in castle wars, woox was doing cw.
It was originally on the High level forums, then re-pasted to the RS official forums, read my first post.

From: Jakee
Lets see
the private message screenshot was taken place in castle wars, woox was doing cw.
It was originally on the High level forums, then re-pasted to the RS official forums, read my first post.

link?

From: MasterCrimez
link?

See first post

From: CephaXz
Mind explaining what's package bots? :confused:
Or :google:? :p

http://www.kaitnieks.com/AutoRune/
Check that out

For more legacy info

http://www.kaitnieks.com/index2/

I have like 20k unfs saved up should I sell before of after the nuke?

I honestly doubt they are going to mass ban anyone who has used SMART. Look at how many years have we been using it. The amount of users using SMART is small compared to the people using the Injection/reflection clients.

From: Sokkr7
Won't effect color, correct?

Usually they do little things to annoy folks and maybe a day of downtime to change some main functions / procedures but after that scripts are usually up and running again, random solving if anything are the ones that get hit the hardest

Jacmob != valid source

dont expect a 'nuke'

From: z92
Jacmob != valid source

dont expect a 'nuke'

Jacmob <> valid source

for pascal users;)

Yes this means that items/gear will go back up to reasonable prices and I can maybe buy a santa for around 70-75mil and re-sell it at xmas for 140m+? :).

From: CephaXz
Mind explaining what's package bots? :confused:
Or :google:? :p

http://www.kaitnieks.com/AutoRune/

Sweet I'll probably be making my return to the game around then it'll be nice to not see so many bots around and maybe make some money off dbones

From: Gucci
Sweet I'll probably be making my return to the game around then it'll be nice to not see so many bots around and maybe make some money off dbones

About ~2weeks after the first nuke I were killing green dragons legit and it felt so odd to be all alone killing those dragons… My biggest fear was that a asshat that crashing rev guys would notice me :P

From: beeb101
Will this ban my account even if i stop using simba after the nuke?

YOU'RE DONE FOR!!!111!!! jk :p We will not know till after the nuke. No one really knows what jagex has up their selve.

From: masterBB
Why? The only difference as far as I know is that it get its own process, with it its own memory space. Making it possible to get rid of a jvm.

There is something about the parameters used to load runescape, should be better in 7.1 :)

lets hope this doesn't hit us too hard

From: The Killer
lets hope this doesn't hit us too hard

I doubt they can do too much that won't just make us need to change some colours…

From: putonajonny
I doubt they can do too much that won't just make us need to change some colours…

ye but there's still that speculation of losing S.M.A.R.T
but like mentioned the new update should mean it will survive

Damn it :/ now im worried

Guys there won't be any mass banning… are you guys forgetting the Front Page - they want to reach 200m Accounts :P

But yes Injection will be stooped

They will reach 200m and in celebration mass ban bots two accomplishments in one lol

At first I was like "Meh, less bots around, probably won't affect Simba", but after reading some posts I got really worried; I am botting my account 10+ hours a day. I don't want for it to get banned :/.. I really hope this nuke won't affect Simba or my account.

Im in the exact same boat Sry :/

Can't wait until July to see what really happens..

From: xTheWayOfTheWarriorx
They will reach 200m and in celebration mass ban bots two accomplishments in one lol

Totally & fail on their record ;)

From: blinkblink
Totally & fail on their record ;)

But once they hit it wouldnt it count?

Can not wait for this bot nuke, just cant…

Im almost done botting what I wanted to bot, luckly xD Then back to legit playing, since the next thing I want done I have money to pay for and get it up really quick. No need to use a bot.

Fake, simply fake

From: YesMan
Fake, simply fake

What makes it fake?

I'm not to worried, ~80 levels to max cape so stoked to have that done :)

Guys the 200m is accounts made. That includes the already banned accounts. No way there are 200m active accounts.

I've been buying up clay and mining it hoping for this nuke to happen, gonna make some bank off of a screwy economy hopefully. Maybe now I can afford to max out my mage and RC :)

From: Nietszche
I've been buying up clay and mining it hoping for this nuke to happen, gonna make some bank off of a screwy economy hopefully. Maybe now I can afford to max out my mage and RC :)

For mage do High lvl alch and Rc do Runespan at no cost..

Been high alching, but I've been doing things with a trade limit of 10k so I lose money, which isn't really a big deal, and I just started again after a bit of a hiatus, haven't had much time to check runespan out.

From: Nietszche
Been high alching, but I've been doing things with a trade limit of 10k so I lose money, which isn't really a big deal, and I just started again after a bit of a hiatus, haven't had much time to check runespan out.

Well then find other methods to train Magic a.s.a.p but once you check out Runespan you would be surprised at the xp per hour you can get at that place. The xp start at 30k+ xp per hour in f2p and 50k+ in p2p.

From: Ucantseemebot
Well then find other methods to train Magic a.s.a.p but once you check out Runespan you would be surprised at the xp per hour you can get at that place. The xp start at 30k+ xp per hour in f2p and 50k+ in p2p.

I meet all of the requirements to do desert treasure, I'm thinking about doing it because I have 94 magic so I could just use that Ice spell and splash, although I'm not sure how good the exp. is for that.

From: Nietszche
I meet all of the requirements to do desert treasure, I'm thinking about doing it because I have 94 magic so I could just use that Ice spell and splash, although I'm not sure how good the exp. is for that.

Well then go ahead and Don't think about it twice because if the longer you take to take a decision, the longer you will take to get to your goal..

I just found this posted on the rs forums, some more info about the bot nuke from the mod mark podcast.




-Brutal Bot updates using the Optimus update (probably referring to the nuke now confirmed for July)
-On Bots: "I'm not taking any prisoners… people have accused us in the past of being too easy and forgiving, giving people too many chances. We're not going to be doing that anymore. If people are stupid enough to use that kind of software, then they are going to suffer."
-Not interested in individual accounts, but in the people using bots. The people who are running several bots to supply their main, etc.

From: ozam
I just found this posted on the rs forums, some more info about the bot nuke from the mod mark podcast.




-Brutal Bot updates using the Optimus update (probably referring to the nuke now confirmed for July)
-On Bots: "I'm not taking any prisoners… people have accused us in the past of being too easy and forgiving, giving people too many chances. We're not going to be doing that anymore. If people are stupid enough to use that kind of software, then they are going to suffer."
-Not interested in individual accounts, but in the people using bots. The people who are running several bots to supply their main, etc.

So what does this mean for me, I only run my main?

This up and coming bot nuke in July shouldn't hurt us much. It's mainly target injection bots, which are the ones that gold farm and pretty much 90% of the botting community.

If using SMART is dangerous we'll simply revert to using the runescape browser client or the downloadable loader as the screen target. (Good ol' SCAR nostalgia)

Is Simba going to hurt by this?

Please come bot nuke

From: Ucantseemebot
For mage do High lvl alch and Rc do Runespan at no cost..

M34t's Lunar plankmaker is twice the xp of alching, and you make profit. I got 99 magic from 87 in a week.