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iFail247

2012-06-12 15:19:23

I noticed there was public scripts, but where are all the private ones?

Silentcore

2012-06-12 15:21:11

From: iFail247
I noticed there was public scripts, but where are all the private ones?


In a private section where only SRL Members+ have a reach at…sorry leeches have no acces to these private scripts and the only way to become an SRL Member is by making your own script and getting votes torwards members..

putonajonny

2012-06-12 15:32:23

From: iFail247
I noticed there was public scripts, but where are all the private ones?


Well if you had access to them, they wouldn't be private…

Silentcore

2012-06-12 15:33:28

From: putonajonny
Well if you had access to them, they wouldn't be private…


haha, you just finished up my joke, good job.

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-12 17:47:31

If they were public, then they wouldn't be private ;)

iFail247

2012-06-12 17:49:20

Sorry for the confusion, but when I said where are the private scripts, I meant is their a forum for it (like not hidden) and is there a preview for them. It seems to have been answered now. Most forums, even if the scripts are private, they give either a preview of it or at least have the forums not hidden.

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-12 17:55:24

If you want to buy scripts, it's not allowed here. You can go to Sythe or ToxSin scripts.

Bobarkinator

2012-06-12 18:03:31

From: Kyle Undefined
If you want to buy scripts, it's not allowed here. You can go to Sythe or ToxSin scripts.


What the heck? Where did you get that out of his statement haha

Hazzah

2012-06-12 18:23:45

From: Bobarkinator
What the heck? Where did you get that out of his statement haha


Bob, even I got that he was looking to buy scripts :duh:

Yago

2012-06-12 18:27:13

From: Hazzah
Bob, even I got that he was looking to buy scripts :duh:


The language he used indirectly hinted at the fact he was looking to buy scripts. But I can see the margin where he may not have been asking to buy scripts.

iFail247

2012-06-12 18:39:40

I was never asking to buy scripts or even hinted it. I was merely implying that most forums have script previews of some sort or that the private forums wasn't hidden. I hope that clarifies things.

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-12 19:18:58

Why would you preview private scripts, unless you wanted to buy them? I was just mentioning the "No script sales" because almost every new person who comes here asks it. I was squashing it before there was a chance to.

It's either private or it's not, there's really no middle ground.

iFail247

2012-06-12 19:20:39

From: Kyle Undefined
Why would you preview private scripts, unless you wanted to buy them? I was just mentioning the "No script sales" because almost every new person who comes here asks it. I was squashing it before there was a chance to.

It's either private or it's not, there's really no middle ground.


So people will know what the some exclusive scripts are in the private forums, which give users more incentive to create a script. When I say preview, it can be the name, it can be pictures, it can be video, anything.

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-12 19:24:09

The private scripts are a reward for being a Member of this community. The SRL Member rank isn't about the scripts, whatsoever.

iFail247

2012-06-12 19:26:19

From: Kyle Undefined
The private scripts are a reward for being a Member of this community. The SRL Member rank isn't about the scripts, whatsoever.


To become a member, you must have a script, so being a SRL member is pretty much about scripts. What is the SRL member rank about?

bolshak25

2012-06-12 19:45:38

helping others and being a part of the community.
if you were to look at a members app, youd see most people that vote dont care about the script at all. some care that its written properly and stuff, but alot are about how active and nice you are. once you are a member, the scripts in that section are pointless anyways because you could make them yourself. i still havent bothered to download any of the members only script because if i really want them, i could make them

iFail247

2012-06-12 20:39:55

From: bolshak25
helping others and being a part of the community.
if you were to look at a members app, youd see most people that vote dont care about the script at all. some care that its written properly and stuff, but alot are about how active and nice you are. once you are a member, the scripts in that section are pointless anyways because you could make them yourself. i still havent bothered to download any of the members only script because if i really want them, i could make them


Even if they do not care about the script, it is still a requirement and without it, the applicants have no chance. Most people in the world are able to fulfill all parts of that form with no problem, but writing a script is another thing. I am no arguing my way in. I am only stating a point.

Kinda got side tracked… I only asked in hopes to see some sort of preview, which included a private section due to the fact that I did not know it was hidden.

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-12 21:18:14

From: iFail247
Even if they do not care about the script, it is still a requirement and without it, the applicants have no chance. Most people in the world are able to fulfill all parts of that form with no problem, but writing a script is another thing. I am no arguing my way in. I am only stating a point.

Kinda got side tracked… I only asked in hopes to see some sort of preview, which included a private section due to the fact that I did not know it was hidden.


Applicants do have a chance, it's not impossible. All you need is to be helpful around the forums, be active and helpful. The script just shows that you have the knowledge of the library.

iFail247

2012-06-12 21:33:21

From: Kyle Undefined
Applicants do have a chance, it's not impossible. All you need is to be helpful around the forums, be active and helpful. The script just shows that you have the knowledge of the library.


If you have knowledge of the library, it means you can write a script most of the time, which pretty much is the same as writing one. It is not entirely the same, but the point is the same.

Bobarkinator

2012-06-12 21:39:37

Honestly the guy has a point with the script previews. Putting on display what is in the members forum might provide some incentive to people.

CephaXz

2012-06-12 21:49:16

From: Bobarkinator
Honestly the guy has a point with the script previews. Putting on display what is in the members forum might provide some incentive to people.


I would have to agree with this. When I just joined this community, I was hoping to see what are inside the private sections that are so good for not being public, then create one myself. :p

iFail247

2012-06-12 21:51:41

From: Bobarkinator
Honestly the guy has a point with the script previews. Putting on display what is in the members forum might provide some incentive to people.


From: CephaXz
I would have to agree with this. When I just joined this community, I was hoping to see what are inside the private sections that are so good for not being public, then create one myself. :p


Thanks for the support :D

CephaXz

2012-06-12 22:00:21

Did not actually supporting you, but only to Bob's statement.

Because, to me, you looked so obvious as to what other's are saying :cartman:
No offence :p

iFail247

2012-06-12 22:03:31

From: CephaXz
Did not actually supporting you, but only to Bob's statement.

Because, to me, you looked so obvious as to what other's are saying :cartman:
No offence :p


Ouch. Your sentence didn't really make sense… did you mean oblivious?

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-12 22:48:50

People are forgetting that this is a learning community first, not a botting forum. Providing previews for the Member scripts only reinforces the "for the scripts" ideology for getting members.

Should people have previews to the SSRL and Developer scripts too? No. Because that's not what we are about.

Flight

2012-06-12 22:58:36

From: Bobarkinator
Honestly the guy has a point with the script previews. Putting on display what is in the members forum might provide some incentive to people.


Well I just recently found out how to make videos with fairly low file-size for Youtube, so I might just do that.

Sin

2012-06-12 23:00:41

From: Kyle Undefined
People are forgetting that this is a learning community first, not a botting forum. Providing previews for the Member scripts only reinforces the "for the scripts" ideology for getting members.

Should people have previews to the SSRL and Developer scripts too? No. Because that's not what we are about.


As Kyle said, first and foremost we're a community about learning, not about the scripts. Having the scripts out for display isn't a good idea IMHO.

Bobarkinator

2012-06-12 23:46:25

Yes, I'd agree that this is a learning community first but your average joe blow comes here, first and foremost, to leech. And some of those guys won't stick around long enough to learn anything without incentives. So they stick around, and THEN we brainwash them about the learning community :)

iFail247

2012-06-13 01:24:33

From: Bobarkinator
Yes, I'd agree that this is a learning community first but your average joe blow comes here, first and foremost, to leech. And some of those guys won't stick around long enough to learn anything without incentives. So they stick around, and THEN we brainwash them about the learning community :)


Starting to sound evil lol

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-13 09:17:53

From: Bobarkinator
Yes, I'd agree that this is a learning community first but your average joe blow comes here, first and foremost, to leech. And some of those guys won't stick around long enough to learn anything without incentives. So they stick around, and THEN we brainwash them about the learning community :)


Why should we give incentives to the leeches that don't care about the community aspect? Why change the way the forum has been for years?

We are the best community because of our ideology that was established years ago. The way it's setup now is to make people realize that they can learn to make scripts themselves, and that by the time they can become an SRL Member they don't need the premade scripts since they can make anything they want.

When I first joined years ago, I started off as a leech. However, getting access to the Member scripts isn't what drove me to learn to script. It was the act of learning something new, and I've used 5 Member scripts total since I've became a Member.

IMHO, giving previews for the scripts that are earned and given as a reward changes the way of the forum completely.

Ashaman88

2012-06-13 09:33:41

Personally I always liked the mystery of the members scripts section. Only thing I don't like about how it is now is the large number of people who as soon as they get members disappear. I agree with community focused first.

Justin

2012-06-13 09:59:27

From: Bobarkinator
Honestly the guy has a point with the script previews. Putting on display what is in the members forum might provide some incentive to people.


And maybe get more 1-posters to apply with the script:


I dont know how to script but i want to learn :)

putonajonny

2012-06-13 10:07:05

From: putonajonny
Well if you had access to them, they wouldn't be private…


From: Kyle Undefined
If they were public, then they wouldn't be private ;)


:ninja:…

Gucci

2012-06-13 10:28:45

From: ashaman88
Personally I always liked the mystery of the members scripts section. Only thing I don't like about how it is now is the large number of people who as soon as they get members disappear. I agree with community focused first.


+1

The mystery of the members section was part of driving me too script, also sooooo true so many people have just left after getting members. Kinda disappointing.

Bobarkinator

2012-06-13 10:39:48

Eh, maybe you guys are right.

iFail247

2012-06-13 11:15:24

From: ashaman88
Personally I always liked the mystery of the members scripts section. Only thing I don't like about how it is now is the large number of people who as soon as they get members disappear. I agree with community focused first.

This thread was never intended for asking SRL to change the way it was, but I guess we got side tracked. It was originally intended to find out if there actually a private section, but it is nice to hear everyone's opinions.

Let bring up how the way SRL runs. The way SRL is trying to make super humans in a way. If everyone ran the same logic, the world would be a disaster. If farmers were to produce food and only share it with other people who can produce food, wouldn't society get fucked over? I can see how SRL only wants the best of the best, but that just makes life tougher. Not everyone can code efficiently. Even if someone can code something basic, it may not even be worth using due to efficiency. Why would someone waste time learning something and code something that isn't that great and only end up getting rejected. Wouldn't have been wise for them to pursue something that they are more capable of?

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-13 11:48:37

From: iFail247
This thread was never intended for asking SRL to change the way it was, but I guess we got side tracked. It was originally intended to find out if there actually a private section, but it is nice to hear everyone's opinions.

Let bring up how the way SRL runs. The way SRL is trying to make super humans in a way. If everyone ran the same logic, the world would be a disaster. If farmers were to produce food and only share it with other people who can produce food, wouldn't society get fucked over? I can see how SRL only wants the best of the best, but that just makes life tougher. Not everyone can code efficiently. Even if someone can code something basic, it may not even be worth using due to efficiency. Why would someone waste time learning something and code something that isn't that great and only end up getting rejected. Wouldn't have been wise for them to pursue something that they are more capable of?


So what's the point of a preview then? Since the only way you can get them is to become an SRL Member. There's no way around it.

We aren't trying to make super humans, people who can code/script/program are anything but that. You're looking at it from a "botting forum" point of view, which is NOT what we are about. The private scripts in Members+ are rewards for being a solid member of the community, not the reason to become a Member.

Your farmer analogy is completely wrong. We don't owe anyone, anything. It's up to the users who join our community to advance, and the ones who choose to, get rewarded. It doesn't happen overnight, it takes time.

It seems that you're still missing the point of our community. It's NOT about the scripts, whatsoever. It's about being involved, helpful, and learning. That is it, nothing else.

Learning to script even the most basic of scripts isn't a waste of time, because you learn something new. If it's not efficient, you learn how to make it efficient, you practice. If you don't want to learn to script, then that's fine, we honestly don't care. You just don't get to reap the benefits of someone who can.

I understand that not everyone can script, because of time/life/school/etc. Not everyone who can script gets into Members, not all Members were accepted the first time. Some Members didn't even write a script to become one.

iFail247

2012-06-13 11:55:19

From: Kyle Undefined
So what's the point of a preview then? Since the only way you can get them is to become an SRL Member. There's no way around it.

We aren't trying to make super humans, people who can code/script/program are anything but that. You're looking at it from a "botting forum" point of view, which is NOT what we are about. The private scripts in Members+ are rewards for being a solid member of the community, not the reason to become a Member.

Your farmer analogy is completely wrong. We don't owe anyone, anything. It's up to the users who join our community to advance, and the ones who choose to, get rewarded. It doesn't happen overnight, it takes time.

It seems that you're still missing the point of our community. It's NOT about the scripts, whatsoever. It's about being involved, helpful, and learning. That is it, nothing else.

Learning to script even the most basic of scripts isn't a waste of time, because you learn something new. If it's not efficient, you learn how to make it efficient, you practice. If you don't want to learn to script, then that's fine, we honestly don't care. You just don't get to reap the benefits of someone who can.

I understand that not everyone can script, because of time/life/school/etc. Not everyone who can script gets into Members, not all Members were accepted the first time. Some Members didn't even write a script to become one.


As much as I like getting post count up and arguing, I see no point to it. The entire point of the thread was to find out whether there was a private section or not. Let's leave it at that before it gets overwhelmed.

Can a mod please close this?

Bobarkinator

2012-06-13 12:39:41

If you want an example of not scripting and advancing, take a look at Jason2gs. I honestly don't know if he ever seriously wrote a big script like most people, yet he advanced all the way to SSRL. I think it took him a while though.

CephaXz

2012-06-13 12:44:15

From: iFail247
This thread was never intended for asking SRL to change the way it was, but I guess we got side tracked. It was originally intended to find out if there actually a private section, but it is nice to hear everyone's opinions.

Let bring up how the way SRL runs. The way SRL is trying to make super humans in a way. If everyone ran the same logic, the world would be a disaster. If farmers were to produce food and only share it with other people who can produce food, wouldn't society get fucked over? I can see how SRL only wants the best of the best, but that just makes life tougher. Not everyone can code efficiently. Even if someone can code something basic, it may not even be worth using due to efficiency. Why would someone waste time learning something and code something that isn't that great and only end up getting rejected. Wouldn't have been wise for them to pursue something that they are more capable of?


False statement. I used to be a leech, for more than 1 year. The reason I came to villavu is the same as almost all of the members here, thinking of leeching some scripts out of it. But after being here for a month, I can feel the community is meant to "learn and earn". After starting to script, you will only get better. Even if you had any problem, as long as you are willing to learn, people here will give you a hand in any problem you encounter. As like what Kyle said, I feel I can make anything I want now. Hardwork pays, hardwork never betrays.

However, I still like the idea of previews of scripts. Having a look of what's inside the members section is what motivated me from learning at the beginning. In the end, learnt that I can actually make them myself, didn't actually have the motivation of applying members anymore. Target was to know what's inside and script it myself to learn more advanced codes, that makes my reward = scripts that is the same inside, and improved skills. But that's just what I think, might not apply to everyone else.

iFail247

2012-06-13 12:46:02

From: CephaXz
False statement. I used to be a leech, for more than 1 year. The reason I came to villavu is the same as almost all of the members here, thinking of leeching some scripts out of it. But after being here for a month, I can feel the community is meant to "learn and earn". After starting to script, you will only get better. Even if you had any problem, as long as you are willing to learn, people here will give you a hand in any problem you encounter. As like what Kyle said, I feel I can make anything I want now. Hardwork pays, hardwork never betrays.

However, I still like the idea of previews of scripts. Having a look of what's inside the members section is what motivated me from learning at the beginning. In the end, learnt that I can actually make them myself, didn't actually have the motivation of applying members anymore. Target was to know what's inside and script it myself to learn more advanced codes, that makes my reward = scripts that is the same inside, and improved skills. But that's just what I think, might not apply to everyone else.


What was the false statement?

Yago

2012-06-13 13:00:14

From: iFail247
What was the false statement?


I think he was talking about the whole superhuman paragraph/idea.

iFail247

2012-06-13 13:01:50

From: Yago
I think he was talking about the whole superhuman paragraph/idea.


Oh okay.

CephaXz

2012-06-13 13:06:43

If farmers were to produce food and only share it with other people who can produce food, wouldn't society get fucked over?


More than enough food produced by farmers that is shared with all other people.


Even if someone can code something basic, it may not even be worth using due to efficiency. Why would someone waste time learning something and code something that isn't that great and only end up getting rejected. Wouldn't have been wise for them to pursue something that they are more capable of?


Every of us leechers starts up scripting the same point. If A became a good scripter a month later and B still can't finish his first script, are you going to say A is genius and B is just dumb? I'd say A puts in much more effort than B. Everyone is capable of scripting with simba. I had totally zero knowledge on scripting. Unlike some people that has a lot of time, I'm a busy person in final year of degree in business. But making my first script actually only using some of my free time in 3 days. The moment you see it working and release your first script,

IT FEELS REALLY GOOD :f:
AND I'M SURE ITS THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE. FOR A MOMENT YOU FELT LIKE YOU'RE CHUCK NORRIS :norris:

iFail247

2012-06-13 13:18:56

From: CephaXz
More than enough food produced by farmers that is shared with all other people.

Um… if farmers shared it with only people that can produce food aka other farms, society would be fucked because you wouldn't be able to get food. Do you understand now? Same can be said about scripters: more than enough scripts are produced by scripters that can be shared with all others. Hope that makes a little more sense.

From: CephaXz

Every of us leechers starts up scripting the same point. If A became a good scripter a month later and B still can't finish his first script, are you going to say A is genius and B is just dumb? I'd say A puts in much more effort than B. Everyone is capable of scripting with simba. I had totally zero knowledge on scripting. Unlike some people that has a lot of time, I'm a busy person in final year of degree in business. But making my first script actually only using some of my free time in 3 days. The moment you see it working and release your first script,

IT FEELS REALLY GOOD :f:
AND I'M SURE ITS THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE. FOR A MOMENT YOU FELT LIKE YOU'RE CHUCK NORRIS :norris:

Finished does not mean efficiency. All the professional programs you see out in any market have to be top notch to even being sold. Everyone wants efficiency. I am not saying B is a dumbass for not finishing it.

CephaXz

2012-06-13 13:23:57

I think you don't feel me. Oh well, I give up :p

iFail247

2012-06-13 13:34:46

From: CephaXz
I think you don't feel me. Oh well, I give up :p


I understand what this forum is about and how it feels when you get something working. I was only trying to say my opinion on the matter and you don't seem to understand what I am trying to say.

Yago

2012-06-13 14:14:40

But farmers are not required to give away their hard earned crops that they put labor into. Instead, some farmers have decided to teach others how to farm so that people learn to become self-sufficient, thus solving world hunger.

There's a quote that says "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish…" Anyways, I'm just a bored individual so don't mind me….

Ashaman88

2012-06-13 14:22:16

Farmers are not a good example…you would die without food…you won't die without the private scripts. Thus food is necessary to live, while bots are not.

iFail247

2012-06-13 14:53:42

From: Yago
But farmers are not required to give away their hard earned crops that they put labor into. Instead, some farmers have decided to teach others how to farm so that people learn to become self-sufficient, thus solving world hunger.

There's a quote that says "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish…" Anyways, I'm just a bored individual so don't mind me….

That is true. If every became self sufficient, the wotld would improve at a slower rate. It is better for people to focus what they are good at and share with each other. That quote is true too. I guess it really depends on how you view things.

From: ashaman88
Farmers are not a good example…you would die without food…you won't die without the private scripts. Thus food is necessary to live, while bots are not.

It is an okay example. I could easily use a car example. Works the same way.

Yago

2012-06-13 14:56:22

From: iFail247
That is true. If every became self sufficient, the wotld would improve at a slower rate. It is better for people to focus what they are good at and share with each other. That quote is true too. I guess it really depends on how you view things.


Exactly, if everyone became dependent same thing goes. I guess there should be a balance.

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-13 17:04:34

From: iFail247
That is true. If every became self sufficient, the wotld would improve at a slower rate. It is better for people to focus what they are good at and share with each other. That quote is true too. I guess it really depends on how you view things.


It is an okay example. I could easily use a car example. Works the same way.


So your argument is basically this:

"Because people in the world aren't self sufficient, neither do I(We)."

I'm just curious as to your reason to keep discussing this. I honestly don't know any other way to put it, as it's been explained before.

Also, a car example isn't good either. You don't NEED a car, you WANT a car.

iFail247

2012-06-13 17:22:53

From: Kyle Undefined
So your argument is basically this:

"Because people in the world aren't self sufficient, neither do I(We)."

You are just a small portion of the world. You can't really call yourself self sufficient unless you are able to do everything by yourself. You are self sufficient in terms of scripting. I am saying the world and everyone is better off doing what they do best and sharing what they end up with. I am not saying they can't do what others are better at. Somewhat confusing.

From: Kyle Undefined

I'm just curious as to your reason to keep discussing this. I honestly don't know any other way to put it, as it's been explained before.

That is why I asked if someone could ask a mod to close this thread because it is going off topic and getting no where.

From: Kyle Undefined

Also, a car example isn't good either. You don't NEED a car, you WANT a car.

That can be applied to meat. You don't NEED meat, you WANT meat. A human only needs food to survive, but not meat. Meat just makes people more satisfied and makes it easier on them to go on about their day. A car/bike/bus/etc makes someones life much easier because they can get to places much quicker.

Kyle Undefined

2012-06-13 17:30:16

From: iFail247
You are just a small portion of the world. You can't really call yourself self sufficient unless you are able to do everything by yourself. You are self sufficient in terms of scripting. I am saying the world and everyone is better off doing what they do best and sharing what they end up with. I am not saying they can't do what others are better at. Somewhat confusing.


I was referencing what it sounds like you're saying, not me personally. Since it seems that you want to benefit from things that you haven't earned when others have. All of this is coming from your posts.

So again, your argument is basically this:

"Because people in the world aren't self sufficient, neither do I(We)."

And by I, I mean yourself, as if you're speaking.

From: iFail247
That can be applied to meat. You don't NEED meat, you WANT meat. A human only needs food to survive, but not meat. Meat just makes people more satisfied and makes it easier on them to go on about their day. A car/bike/bus/etc makes someones life much easier because they can get to places much quicker.


Again, you don't need a car/bike/bus/etc. You just want to use something that someone else came up with. You're right, humans don't need meat. You're also being contradicting in that paragraph.

Ashaman88

2012-06-13 17:33:06

If I wanted meat I would pay for it. If I didn't have the money or if it wasn't for sale, I would hunt some for myself. If I couldn't learn to hunt I would just have to do without :(

iFail247

2012-06-13 17:45:55

From: Kyle Undefined
I was referencing what it sounds like you're saying, not me personally. Since it seems that you want to benefit from things that you haven't earned when others have. All of this is coming from your posts.

So again, your argument is basically this:

"Because people in the world aren't self sufficient, neither do I(We)."

And by I, I mean yourself, as if you're speaking.



Again, you don't need a car/bike/bus/etc. You just want to use something that someone else came up with. You're right, humans don't need meat. You're also being contradicting in that paragraph.

I already stated multiple times that this thread was originally intended to find if there was a private section. I have already got the answer. I also mentioned that this thread should be closed because we are not getting anywhere with this. I am in no way trying to get free stuff or argue my way in. I hope this is the last time I have to say this, but you never know.

From: ashaman88
If I wanted meat I would pay for it. If I didn't have the money or if it wasn't for sale, I would hunt some for myself. If I couldn't learn to hunt I would just have to do without :(

True, but most people would end up with no meat if they could not pay for it.