SRL Archive - NOTA

I have a friend who recently started to turn his life around for the better. He used to smoke, drink, chase girls (although he already has a gf), and do all those stuff; but recently he changed! He quit smoking (which is a miracle in of it's own) and that is amazing cause he's just the kind of person I could have never pictured quitting something as addicting as smoking. He also quit drinking, and partying too much, and he is actually talking and thinking about the future more and more; infact much more than I who used to tell him to quit those things.

Why am I telling you guys this? Well as you might have already read (for those of you who read the title of threads before clicking), the title of this thread is about Fast money making schemes. So this friend of mine recently stumbled across one of these apparently huge money machines that no one as ever heard about until you were selected to join. More specifically, Amway and even more specific World Wide Dream builders.

Yea apparently, this friend of mine did a major overhaul of his life and he bascially decided that he wanted a way to make money either going back to school and getting an education or do what these guys are promising him that he will get in the next 2-5 years of his working with them.

Now I knew from the start when he started talking to me about these changes in his life and about this new business opportunity he found, that this was a definite scam, but I did not want to break the guys heart and make him feel depressed. I already agreed and went to one of these meetings these guys host and the numbers they pull up on those meetings sound just ridiculous! Apparently some of them make over $200,000 per month! And the top guy pulls in $600 Gs per month!

I would go on to describe more of where this situation is headed, but I want to hear you guy's opinions. Have you guys heard anything about this group? Are they legit? Are any of you guys involved with them? Please post serious answers cause this is a serious situation! I have a friend who finally turns his life around only to be possibly falling into a deeper one which could cost him a lot more than he could handle in the near future.

I want what's best for him, but at the same time I don't want to jump to conclusions too early and end up ruining our friendship which is why I even started coming regularly to the meetings and doing more research on these guys just so I could get some dirt on them or even better, get rid of the bad feeling I have about them.

Thank you for your time, I know most of you won't read the entire thing, but just do this: Ctrl + D and bookmark it then read it later and post some feedback.

Reading this will give you an idea of some of the things they say and I can personally vouch that they really say these things cause I have been to some of the meetings
http://www.angelfire.com/or/amwaydreamers/index3.html

I don't know anything about this, but I'll just quote the cliche phrase before anybody else does..

"If it's too good to be true, it probably is"

From: Texy
I don't know anything about this, but I'll just quote the cliche phrase before anybody else does..

"If it's too good to be true, it probably is"

Trust me, that's the first thing that came to my mind as soon as he started talking about it. I mean, it's just too good! I went to another meeting today and they gave me a huge ass kit to read for 2 days from now. I just hope I can move fast enough.

$200,000 a month?
You know that statistic is outrageous. No one makes $200,000 a month unless you're an owner of some oil or mining company or so on.
I've seen so many of these scams and bullshit on the newspapers everytime i head to school and fliers posted around.

Before you think of choosing a place to work or ask your self if this is legit, head over to the Better Business Bureau. (bbb.org), and enter the name of the business and see the reviews and if its approved.

Now I did some research on Amway and the WWDB, and more than half of the results either begin or end with the word "scam", "fake", or "not legit".

In order to make this so called "$200,000" a month ,or anywhere near that, I'd just like to let you know that in order to make that much amount of money, you're gonna need to put a shit load of money to invest in; that is what groups like these wont tell you about.

You really should tell your friend about what I posted here or look Amway or WWDB on google and tell him as soon as possible. The last thing you want is him not to be living in a home or having enough money to support himself, because organizations that make these claims of making so much money in a short amount of time, will ultimately take your money and make sure you never see it again.

This is also related to the "Make money from home" scam. The person/company tells you to take several phone calls, asks you to pay some money so that the company can "invest" in an item, and makes you sign this contract which has very tiny print that needs a huge magnifying glass to be readable.

Moral of the story: All of these "make money from home" or "make $200k/month" is all bs. Please do some background research before doing any other action.

I hope this helped, even though it was lengthy. I wish you luck to your friend and you.

Honestly mate, do you really think that everyone will succeed in this? Out of the say 100 people that have been at that meeting, perhaps not even 1 will make it. These things, in my opinion are in fact scams.

They just pump up eager people into buying their books and get rich off of you.

Actually they are not selling books. Infact from what I've seen their only significant source of income comes from the money you pay them to own your own virtual store which you can shop and buy stuff from. How do they convince you to do this? They tell you that you will be making profit off of retail cause when others buy from your store, you get the retail value as profit. And also they are riding on the fact that Amway corporation is a legit business which sells products online. But then what they do on the side is totally not legit cause they are taking totally in experienced people and handing over to them all the responsibilities of owning a small business which they sugar-coat by telling you that you will be doing this on-the-side.

Retail value comes from the fact that you will first buy the products that you will be selling at a lower price, then the people you sell it to (if you sell) then buy it for the actual price and the retail value is the profit you make from that transaction.

These people are scammers, please stay away.

My brothers have done, my cousins have done my friends have done it… Firstly it requires a lot of funding and extremely a lot of motivation and passion to get absolutely anywhere. To get to the point to where you can even make enough to pay bills takes about a year if you keep referring and have people buying every month. It is true that you can make an easy living but its not easy as is anything else like this.

Top guy makes 600 grand per month, but can't pay to get a domain? Sounds legit.
Edit: Read more about it, seems like a ponzi scheme.

It's a scam. I would go into detail, but think about it. 200k a month? Lol. $2.4m a year…ummm no. Sorry.

Yall ever heard of the amway scam? :p

Go to your friend and crush his feelings, he might rage at first but in the long run he will thank you.

From: ssshhhaaa
Go to your friend and crush his feelings, he might rage at first but in the long run he will thank you.

He won't if he quits because then he'll never find out :p

But anyway on topic, be realistic. IF, it's possible to make that much money. Why the hell would they tell you about that? This situations will be either one of those things:
1: It might work but it won't make you that much money as they promise and it'll probably take you alot more effort than they tell you.
2: It's a scam to somehow get your money. Either by selling stuff or making you invest.

I've been working from home for years now and things like this DO NOT exist. Keep dreaming, just change it to something more realistic.

Tell your friend to educate himself in some way, either on Google or on a school. Because without education you won't come anywhere. I prefer Google though as it teaches you honest information if you look at it right.

Good luck with it :)

~ ForcaNL