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Mage Of Begu MSN conversation.. He made a new account!


JAD

2007-04-08 13:40:29

Please, nobody tell Mage Of Begu I did this :D thanks.

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
they dont unban me and thats it

JAD - Uberbroproductions.net/forums says:
K

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
but im already back :D

JAD - Uberbroproductions.net/forums says:
back?

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
with different IP too
JAD - Uberbroproductions.net/forums says:
So now you are registering again?

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
ive already registered

JAD - Uberbroproductions.net/forums says:
Whats your new user name? HeliZ? :p

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
nah

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
maybe i tell ya some day :D

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
starts with K

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
ends to N

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
K---_B----_D----N

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
King Black Dragon

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
[url]http://www.hide-ip-soft.com/[/url]

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
check that

[c=1]HeliZ - [/c=4][c=4]Learning PHP[/c=1] says:
its very usefull :D
Heliz = Mage of Begu.. Thats my MSN conversation with him.. Lol, I feel so dirty spying like this :p

c0de

2007-04-08 13:46:10

Well, he'll see this if he ever becomes SRL member :D

Thank you, you did us a favour.

JAD

2007-04-08 13:47:33

NP's lol.. glad to help. He still thinks I'm his friend and all, not saying that I hate him for life or anything :p

Boreas

2007-04-08 13:48:08

Lol he used an IP that he has used before. He obviously doesn't know what mods can see.

Mods: Should I ban him? If I do, he may know that JAD told, and then would run and make it harder to catch next time, although he did use an old IP.

Should we pretend we don't know and see what he does?

It's times like these that make me think we should close registration.

JAD

2007-04-08 13:50:28

Lol, I really don't care, just make it seem like I'm his friend still and I could probably get more information. He barely told me that time his user name, he was hesitant about it. I feel so James bond lol!

Boreas

2007-04-08 13:51:42

No I mean, he may try more devious methods if we catch him too early.

Bobarkinator

2007-04-08 14:06:00

To quote the SRL General Rules

From: Fakawi
Returning after a ban: You may not return after a perm ban. Proxying into SRL is strictly forbidden.

Three infractions will make you miserable.

JAD

2007-04-08 14:08:19

From: bobarkinator
To quote the SRL General Rules


Still though, the problem is, its not illegal to do it is it? Or did he sign an agreement? and boreas said he came back on the same IP address, they didn't IP ban him I guess.

Cheesehunk

2007-04-08 14:16:40

From: Boreas
No I mean, he may try more devious methods if we catch him too early.

Do what Jagex does, wait a week so he can't pinpoint why he was banned..

Boreas

2007-04-08 14:18:06

Sounds good.

Ejjman

2007-04-08 14:33:11

Hm..I see it!

Ban him when he tries to help a noob with a script XD.

Sadness

Boreas

2007-04-08 14:53:50

Yea I saw that post too. He's not just doing it to help others, he doing to make himself look good. Either so that he won't get banned, or so that he can build up trust again as a good scripter, so he can caused more damage. Besides, there are plenty of people that could fill his place.

Sumilion

2007-04-08 15:23:57

Yes I agree, lets ban him in a few days :p

We wouldnt want him to suspect JAD aswell..

Yakman

2007-04-08 15:27:07

thanks for telling us JAD
iv put that converstion in code tags if you dont mind, its eaiser on the eye :)

JAD

2007-04-08 16:14:39

From: Yakman
thanks for telling us JAD
iv put that converstion in code tags if you dont mind, its eaiser on the eye :)


Actually, I do mind. I'm really pissed now! lol j/k :p np's. Happy to be of service :) I don't want him to be making any more of his "scripts"(account hackers) and posting them here, so I thought I'd help :) and thanks for not making him suspect me. We're good! :p

I think there should be a sneaky spy/james bond cup made :) lol.

Starblaster100

2007-04-08 18:23:58

Let an admin ban him, so they can ban all of his IPs and his usernames at once.

Mjordan

2007-04-08 18:31:46

Well won't he know that he's gonna get banned/ know that it's JAD that told, if he's back on the forums?

Ejjman

2007-04-08 18:36:31

From: Mjordan
Well won't he know that he's gonna get banned/ know that it's JAD that told, if he's back on the forums?


Read whole thread.

moparisthebest

2007-04-09 02:23:46

From: Starblaster100
Let an admin ban him, so they can ban all of his IPs and his usernames at once.


That is a good idea, but make sure the rest of you watch his account like a hawk so he doesn't release any more malicious scripts….

GoF

2007-04-09 07:46:46

… Umm, who is this Mage of Begu? Have i missed something?

Bebe

2007-04-09 09:22:01

He was an SRL member that released scripts with "malicious" parts in them.
Basically he had hidden procedures that would send the username and password to a site he owned.

GoF

2007-04-09 11:16:29

Ok.. Thanks.

Just ban him :p

Wizzup?

2007-04-09 15:20:02

From: Starblaster100
Let an admin ban him, so they can ban all of his IPs and his usernames at once.


Wizzy to the rescue! :p

Anyway, I will ban this guy later. ;)

JAD

2007-04-09 21:45:22

From: Wizzup?
Wizzy to the rescue! :p

Anyway, I will ban this guy later. ;)


And wizzy, while your add it, really think about that James Bond/secret spy cup :) lol. I just hope Mage doesn't figure out its my fault :)

da_professa

2007-04-10 15:06:22

From: Bebemycat2
He was an SRL member that released scripts with "malicious" parts in them.
Basically he had hidden procedures that would send the username and password to a site he owned.


damn that's low :(

syberium

2007-04-10 19:08:45

Jad why would u want a cup promoting ur a spy if u dont want MOB to know what u did to him? xD

JAD

2007-04-10 20:39:11

The cup doesn't 100% say "I told every SRL member of what you said to me on MSN!" or something like that lol. It could just mean that I'm.. a spy.. but not that I've done any spying :D lol.

Boreas

2007-04-11 00:06:00

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8219?p=88146#post88146
we have an excuse to check the 2 posters IP

da_professa

2007-04-11 02:46:05

:) Boreas I like ur thinking :P

Bam Bam

2007-04-11 18:46:03

Mage of Begu is now banned :f:

TheGodfather

2007-04-12 02:18:43

From: Bam Bam
Mage of Begu is now banned :f:



Hes been banned. Problem is that he is attempting a return at the forum under a new name. Very feeble becuase there's alot on his case.

Bam Bam

2007-04-12 15:22:15

From: TheGodfather
Hes been banned. Problem is that he is attempting a return at the forum under a new name. Very feeble becuase there's alot on his case.


Oh yeah… Embarrassing, Lol

JAD

2007-04-12 20:25:56

Not sure if anybody saw this, lol.

From: King Black Dragon
:) what does the "verdict" mean ?


He posted that in the Mage of begu verdict thread :p

Hobbit

2007-04-12 20:26:20

lol he just posted in his verdict thread askign what verdict ment

Edit: augh JAD you psoted right before me again >.< :p

JAD

2007-04-12 20:46:17

Lol! You can't beat these mad fingers of pure typing speed! :p

Ejjman

2007-04-12 21:45:39

heh, noticed this earlier.
who said :google:

i got a kick out of that

Bobarkinator

2007-04-12 22:28:45

Such a great scripter. I mean look at his app. No "no's". Then to get banned and make another account. This might have been what went through his head

"I got kicked out of a cheating community for cheating(kinda)"
"I've got it, I'll cheat my way back in"

Hobbit

2007-04-12 22:30:55

there is a difference between cheating and deception…what he is doing isnt cheating its deceptive

Boreas

2007-04-13 15:30:51

Lol he keeps posting on that thread, trying to reinforce the idea that KBD isn't MOB with the old 'if you see clark kent and superman at the same time, they can't be the same'.

Hobbit

2007-04-13 15:52:01

but we arent seeing him at the same time :confused:..MOB is banned… so that doesn't really help his case does it? :p

Boreas

2007-04-13 15:53:42

He asked a question on a thread about him. Although I guess clark kent talking about superman in the third person would be closer.

Hobbit

2007-04-13 16:00:13

yes. very true. though what he's doing is jsut making himself more suspicious in my mind. its like when you fall through ice, to more you stuggle and scramble to get out the worse it gets and more likely you are to die. But if you calmly pull yourself out flat onto the ice, you should be fine, well out of the water atleast. so right now hes just scrambling to get a piece of yh ice and it keep breaking off.

Boreas

2007-04-13 16:02:02

Well if you didn't know KBD=MOB then it would just seem like another noob posting on the thread.

Hobbit

2007-04-13 16:05:02

True. But to us, who have suspicions about it, would notice these things more and put peices together and would make us more suspicous of the situation.

omgh4x0rz

2007-04-13 17:24:32

yea, what pisses me off is that the asshole is probably sitting there laughing his head off, thinking we have no idea that he is KBD. Everytime he posts a smiley I want to smack that grin off his face.

c0de

2007-04-13 17:37:04

And I can't say KBD STFU I KNOW WHO YOU ARE… I can hardly refrain from doing that :(

Maybe let him build up reputation and when he applies for SRL Membership have everyone reply with a NO! Without any explanation etc.. :D

Hobbit

2007-04-13 17:54:26

yah! lol thats awsome…we should just keep letting him believe we're clueless

JAD

2007-04-13 18:02:41

Heres an idea. If we ban him, or ban all of his IPs, he'll just proxy his way in or just reset his modem to change his IP right? So, heres what I think we should do. Not ban him, not tell him we know who he is. We just keep a close eye on all of his posts, and if he posts any malicious material, we'll delete it. Because if we ban him and he changes his IP, there maybe no way of finding out who he is again without me needing to do this dirty work :D Better to know where he's at then not know at all.

omgh4x0rz

2007-04-13 18:06:46

From: JAD
Better to know where he's at then not know at all.


Thats why I think we shouldn't tell him we know. If he finds out we know what his account is (regardless of whether we IP ban him or tell him we know) then he will just proxy his way in and we've lost track.

As painful it is to read his posts and think of his smug smile behind the screen, we should just keep an eye on him and reject his apps.

Hobbit

2007-04-13 18:12:52

or we could just keep making his account have "unforseen" errors on this site till he get so pissed off he leave and dont come back

JAD

2007-04-13 18:42:19

But he may figure out we did that to his account.. and go make a different one.. :p

Hobbit

2007-04-13 19:05:58

well then just get his new account and tell him that there was a post in member section that they found him out through his ip

JAD

2007-04-13 19:16:13

From: Hobbit
well then just get his new account and tell him that there was a post in member section that they found him out through his ip


The point is, if he were to use a proxy server to get in, the ip would not match with his old one. So that means there would be no way of finding him At all So we need to keep him on that account, where we know where he is, as long as possible (in my opinion of course :p).

Hobbit

2007-04-13 20:39:12

so then whats the point to banning him in the first place? if we're just gonna let him stay

JAD

2007-04-13 20:44:46

There is no point at all to banning him, he would just make another account with a different IP address and there would be no possible way of ever finding out what account is mage of begu's ever again. So, if we ban him, theres no way to monitor him in any way once he makes a new account.

Smartzkid

2007-04-13 20:53:03

That's why we're gonna let him stay, then deny all of his member app's for an unknown reason

Boreas

2007-04-13 22:09:46

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.

Bobarkinator

2007-04-13 23:25:04

Wise words from Boreas. I like the unknown errors idea. Plus why did he pick the name KBD? Doesn't that kind of give away that he's been around the forums before?

JAD

2007-04-14 00:49:54

From: bobarkinator
Wise words from Boreas. I like the unknown errors idea. Plus why did he pick the name KBD? Doesn't that kind of give away that he's been around the forums before?


It does, but there are a LOT of people to register, no way of telling its him unless you have a super secret spy like me, or ip matches :p

Hobbit

2007-04-14 01:44:34

lol true. yah i think we should jsut harrass him with 'errors' between his accoutn and the webbie

Secet

2007-04-14 05:58:38

Just ban he and his IP, if he comes back with proxy or different Ip and re-registers just take a call to his ISP and say he is spreading keyloggers in our forums.

Boreas

2007-04-14 06:04:08

Yea but we won't know that.

Ejjman

2007-04-14 14:12:04

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8510

Pentti

2007-04-14 14:40:33

From: Ejjman1
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8510

I bet those are the stuff he stole…

Ejjman

2007-04-14 15:08:13

From: Pentti
I bet those are the stuff he stole…


Yes, why would he have them in his inventory..?? Cuz he was multi logging and trading. N00b. *Disgusted*

Bobarkinator

2007-04-14 16:20:45

Wow that's a ton of stuff just from scamming people. It's sad.

Smartzkid

2007-04-14 18:00:56

BAH! I always forget to refresh the thread before I post

:(

JAD

2007-04-14 18:52:20

Pentti, he tells me he knows you in real life. That true? If so, does he even have a brother? Lol :p You could probably get more information on him then anybody else could :p

Edit: And the way he probably got that stuff, was people auto mined Iron,copper…etc. and then he stole there accounts to take it.

Pentti

2007-04-15 03:18:55

From: JAD
Pentti, he tells me he knows you in real life. That true? If so, does he even have a brother? Lol :p You could probably get more information on him then anybody else could :p

I dont know him in real life! I only know him from msn, and from these forums, but hes from Finland like me. And yes, I think I can get pretty much information from him, even if I don't know him on real life.

JuKKa

2007-04-15 05:16:04

anyone knows where about from finland he is, (city), maybe i could meet him and punch him in the face..?

Pentti

2007-04-15 06:08:02

From: JuKKa
anyone knows where about from finland he is, (city), maybe i could meet him and punch him in the face..?

I know in what city he lives in. :D

(JuKKa, tiiän muute sen mikseri.net:n käyttäjänki, sil on siel musaa. Mut sil ei todellakaa oo rytmitajuu:D)

c0de

2007-04-15 06:19:33

http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/rs2-srl-bobert5696s-p90077.html#post90077
Another scammer, not sure if it's him but…

Pentti

2007-04-15 06:35:55

From: c0de
http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/rs2-srl-bobert5696s-p90077.html#post90077
Another scammer, not sure if it's him but…

Omfg, another SRL member trying to do same what Mage of Begu did. I think that guy there is not Mage of Begu, I can see it on his longevity bar. But style how he hides password sending looks a bit same what Mage of Begu had in his script.

c0de

2007-04-15 08:49:15

But how come people aren't suspicious when they see ''You have to allow to connect to blabla. It's for this and that…'' I mean wtf… It's like giving yourself out right away.

omgh4x0rz

2007-04-15 09:13:18

Nice job! Who discovered that begu and the other asshole were scamming?

Edit:
From: c0de
But how come people aren't suspicious when they see ''You have to allow to connect to blabla. It's for this and that…'' I mean wtf… It's like giving yourself out right away.


But some scripts legitimately have to connect to check version numbers and auths etc.
Besides the last guy only had getpage() which can't send anything, right? It just returns text…

Smartzkid

2007-04-15 13:30:24

it sent the data in the url

Edit by Sumilion :

Dont give people ideas pl0x.

omgh4x0rz

2007-04-15 14:19:28

Are you guys sure you're not just on a witch hunt now? I got his version he posted on mopar's, and I'm 90% sure it isn't sending passwords or user-names anywhere. The post said it hadn't been updated since March, so I don't think he quickly removed the old version and put up a clean one.

Sumilion

2007-04-15 14:52:08

Trust me, this version was definately stealing passes.

I looked at his mopar script too and it seems to be clean. If you want a cave fighter then i suppose it wouldnt hurt using the one on mopars. Just make sure he didnt edit it.

Secet

2007-04-15 15:32:06

I also checked Moparversion, it is clean (unless changed it now). But I also didn't find the code that was stealing passwords, I used Ctrl + F and typed Username. It went to spot where updating part was, but however there wasn't anything to do with Username, is it hidden somehow?

omgh4x0rz

2007-04-15 15:32:24

Thats okay Sum, I don't usually use other people's scripts exactly for this reason. I just wanted to make sure this guy was actually guilty and we aren't now just on a witch-hunt to ban anyone whose script interacts with the internet.

@secet
yea, that's why I wanted to make sure they had proof cause I didn't see any from his one on mopar's. I guess the version here was different.