Safe Transfers
Brown
2006-04-24 21:16:31
Many people have wanted to be able to transfer stuff to their main, from an autoer. Jagex has been reading trades, its not like it will go undetected if a lvl 3 gives a lvl 100 10k iron ore.
Here are some ways to do it safely without getting banned. (knowledge of how to use a proxy and how to have 2 runescape windows open is needed, or have 2 computers. It is best to have a trusty friend you know in real life to play on the autoer char to make the transfer.)
1. Staking.
This method is used if you have 2 member accounts somewhat close to the same level. Simply have both characters stake, one stakes the autoed goods, the other stakes something so it looks real. Then just let the main character win. I personally dont auto on any of my member accounts.
—Brown
2. Buying cheap.
If your really looking for getting it all out of what you autoed, this isnt the way for you. This way you will still turn a profit, but it with be about 25% less then other xfers. However, this one of the safest ways to xfer a lot of something. Simply make it look like the autoer char is selling his autoed goods. Then on a different computer, or a proxied window buy the autoed goods from the autoer for really cheap. Say I autoed 10k iron, they main would 'buy' the iron from the autoer for say 30 ea (300k). Then sell the iron for 100 ea (1m), that creates a 700k safe profit.
—Brown
3. Wilderness.
The method can be dangerous, and risks loosing your autoed goods, but is still a way to get by the Jaygex trade detection. Simply have the autoer char go into the wild with the goods, and have the main character kill him. The new tele system causes you to need to be extra cautious of pkers.
—Timmyboy
4. Die by NPC.
This one is simple, safe, and not too risky. Have an extreemly trustable friend (real life) play on your accnt, or have 2 computers next to each other. Have the one with the autoed goods simple die from an npc with your main standing next to it ready to pick up the items.
—Reflex
Also post any safe ways you know.
timmyboy
2006-04-24 22:42:15
Also, another way is for the autoer to go out into the wildy and get killed by the main while it's caring the goods. Be carefull for pkers though.
phantombmx
2006-04-25 11:10:59
i usually go into a building upstairs where no one is there.. drop trade.. havent got caught yet :D but lately i have just traded more money to my buyers.. like i give 200k to each autoer i have.. they buy 100k feathers.. they trade me 100k feathers for 200k more gp.. then sell for 1 mil.. tada!! continuous(sp?) process
The wilderness method is my favorite. Only takes a second anyways.
Sdcit
2006-04-26 23:51:59
err… what i do is just trade an inv of potatoes for stuff (thanks mutant XD)
JiveTonto@Gmail.com
2006-04-27 01:24:38
same i jsut use the drop trade or my other accoutn i jsut walk up to trade mill at a time but since i do it all the time (swiching items and so forth) it does not look strange for me
WT-Fakawi
2006-04-29 20:07:07
maybe there is a threshold mechanism based on value that is triggered for odd transfers? So say if you transfer 4999 Coal Ore, it wouldnt be noticed, but if you traded 5000 it would have….
This is how I trade: I have one banker at every Bank in the free world. My main only trades with these bankers. My bankers have never moved, they are all level-3, yet all their bankslots are filled with various priceless goodies. My army trades directly with these bankers, fairly uneven trades, like giving away 356 Coal and 249 Mithril ores for free, all the time :) . I have been doing this for the last year of so, never run into trouble with these bankers nor my main. (I have lost some Players yes, but that is another matter… )
o, vital detail, I always trade at very busy worlds, like 1, 3 and 29. Less obvious maybe…
BenLand100
2006-04-29 20:19:59
From: WT-Fakawi
maybe there is a threshold mechanism based on value that is triggered for odd transfers? So say if you transfer 4999 Coal Ore, it wouldnt be noticed, but if you traded 5000 it would have….
This is how I trade: I have one banker at every Bank in the free world. My main only trades with these bankers. My bankers have never moved, they are all level-3, yet all their bankslots are filled with various priceless goodies. My army trades directly with these bankers, fairly uneven trades, like giving away 356 Coal and 249 Mithril ores for free, all the time :) . I have been doing this for the last year of so, never run into trouble with these bankers nor my main. (I have lost some Players yes, but that is another matter… )
o, vital detail, I always trade at very busy worlds, like 1, 3 and 29. Less obvious maybe…
Good lord Fakawi, you put way too much effort into this ;)
ReFLeX
2006-04-29 21:13:43
I usually run to a random spot on a lvl 3 and have a NPC kill me, while my friend is right next to me to pick everything up. Or ill just have my main sit right next to where I die and log onto him if no ones around.
phantombmx
2006-04-29 21:23:24
thats a good way reflex :D
fawki…. what ben said.. :rolleyes:
Hellfish
2006-04-30 13:48:12
I am just going to stick with drop trading. Simple. Fakawi, you have way too much time on your hands:p .
I used to use random transfers up until my main got caught out :(.
Mutant Squirrle
2006-04-30 21:18:44
or you could just trade the autoed account a potatoe haha
torrent
2006-04-30 21:24:46
they banned both my lvl 94's for drop trading.. they said the accoutn came into conflict with each other..
JiveTonto@Gmail.com
2006-05-01 00:28:35
ehhh what i do it get a firend to hold it for a while some times and then trade with them … jagex gives up after a day or two
Flyboy
2006-05-03 03:04:53
Drop trading is not safe… I love to spot someone drop trading and stand where the stuff is appearing… I've got lots of iron and coal doing that :p.
In the past I did something similar to Fakawi using a banker since free accounts never have enough room in the bank for anything… Only difference is I always trade something for something, for example: On the first trade my autoer trades 2000 coal and 600 mith for 3000 feathers, On the second trade the autoer trades 1600 coal, 550 mith, and 3000 feathers for 4500 cabage. This way its always big numbers for big numbers, and the banker never runs out or overfills with junk items to trade with. I usually have three different items I use as my bartering items.
JiveTonto@Gmail.com
2006-05-03 03:31:59
4500 cabbage lol wtf wher eu get all that rubish form?
phantombmx
2006-05-03 04:39:43
use a friend.. ;)
Wizzup?
2006-05-03 06:53:41
Fakawi's way is not time consuming at all… it is just the best way, I use it aswell.
Brown
2006-05-03 07:23:26
Heh, would my collection of 8.2k tinderboxes work in tades? :p
I just annoy the heck out of someone *cough* phantom *cough* tehn get them to jump on one of my accounts and then do the trade. I hate drop trading freaks me out when people are walkign behind you. Gets you all paranoid. Btw i sometimes even give pass out of my main so that they can do the trade. I have a lot of trust:p ;) :D
phantombmx
2006-05-03 17:24:21
yeah pyro.. i might need a favor of you too ;) you, fawki, wizzup, and a few others are prolly only ones i trust :p but yeah you guys are friendly :)
PS… im not ever offline because i just leave msn on.. i just forgot to set the away message before i went to sleep.. 2 am to 2 pm xD
Cheesehunk
2006-05-08 18:22:31
Fakawi, and Wizzup?, do you use 1 computer to do the trading?
All from 1 IP adress?
Or differnet computers, or same computer with a proxy?
torrent
2006-05-08 22:39:23
i got banned drop trading.. i did it on one comp usiing no proxy :\
Roberty Bob
2006-05-09 00:44:07
I have two monitors and run VMware
http://www.vmware.com/with a bridged network connection. (seperate IP's)
I'm running another XP Pro install as my main virtual machine.
This allows me to log in with 2 players in the same world.
I then just use middle men or go direct for a small trade (500-1k)
Its also good for autoing with the VM on my secondary screen, while i use my computer for anything I want to. The best antiban is looking at the screen every now and again while you work away at something else on the primary monitor.
I realise not everyone has access to a setup like this though… pretty cool to auto on multiple accounts with just one computer though.
I helped history on transfer…
Wizzup?
2006-05-09 08:52:21
From: Roberty Bob
I have two monitors and run VMware
http://www.vmware.com/
with a bridged network connection. (seperate IP's)
I'm running another XP Pro install as my main virtual machine.
This allows me to log in with 2 players in the same world.
I then just use middle men or go direct for a small trade (500-1k)
Its also good for autoing with the VM on my secondary screen, while i use my computer for anything I want to. The best antiban is looking at the screen every now and again while you work away at something else on the primary monitor.
I realise not everyone has access to a setup like this though… pretty cool to auto on multiple accounts with just one computer though.
Use one Signed and one Unsigned java to log in in the same world.
Brown
2006-05-09 16:59:14
Would it be possible to run VM on one monitor? (Have VM taking up half the screen, space is no issure thanks to 25 in wide monitor). If it isnt possible I might aswell plug in my old monitor next to my new to run VM on.
aztek
2006-05-09 18:07:26
L0l, first of all when i auto i only do it on one charector cause thats all i got, rofl. When i do, i do it like everybody else… DROP-TRADE ……. w00t! :D
second, why does everyone like using my double posters die sig?
Brown
2006-05-09 19:35:38
Drop trading can easily get you banned, and its risky about loosing your stuff. :p
phantombmx
2006-05-09 19:42:49
just use a friend or someone trusted *raises hand to volunteer*
ill do it for 5k gp :D
Avaphi
2006-05-09 21:16:34
Make up a BS story with your main and then have your noob autoer follow into wildy, saying you will give free if you trust then kill him… makes it look good.
Brown
2006-05-09 23:41:22
^^^ Seems a bit paranoid db :p. I dont think that Jagex really records chat logs to be human checked whenever a low level looses something in the wild.
However, the wild killing technique is good, but the side story = bleh.
inferno
2006-05-14 08:57:37
Heh, I used to think drop trading was safe, did it for months and never got caught. Then I got a temp ban and had to re-think my method. So I used something like flyboys method. First trade would be Iron + Cabbage for Feathers then the next one would be Iron + Feathers for Cabbage and so on. As far as I know this never even raised suspicion, but then quite recently I forgot and drop traded again and well, my main got banned. Now I have to auto a new main.
ub3r |<1||3r*1337*
2006-05-14 09:53:37
I just auto on my main… SRL never bans me (or does it lol). That way, i dont have to do ANY risky trading :)
Cheesehunk
2006-05-14 12:36:28
Lol, uber I wouldn't suggest that…
Flat Line
2006-05-17 16:52:20
the dieing by NPC and wildy are probably the best way. but trading on busy worlds is also a way to keep THE ELECTRIC EYE away from you.
i still think its pretty stupid for jlagwex to not allow trading between characters… their reasoning seems a bit off…
Roberty Bob
2006-05-20 07:48:29
Hey Brown. sorry for long reply…
sure you can use VM ware without the second monitor… if your computer is powerful enough you can auto several SCAR bots at once.
3 is kinda my limit, but if you have a high end dual core++ / 2GB++ ram… you could run quite a few i imagine.
each virtual machine can keep autoing away without mouse focus… kinda cool. and they all have a seperate IP, just used bridge connections…
I dunno about the java suggestion, bit over my head.
Fakawi's banker idea is ok, but one of my bankers was banned… I had done a touch of autoing with them, but not for a week… so I thought perhaps the 3k iron ore transfer might have alerted them.?
Krazy_Meerkat
2006-05-20 07:59:51
I thought jagex might be paying extra attention to some aryan noobs i'd set up, so i just traded 100k ess to a random guy. I didn't miss it and nearly all of them were banned the next day..
Avaphi
2006-05-30 22:14:57
Thats it im going the fakawi/wizzup? route.
newguy45
2006-05-30 23:34:36
i have 5 comps on a pive wireless network. pluss i traded my main 10k ess more than 10 times and im still useing him
How I did it
1. commen sence
2. i traded insteed of tradeing exacty 10,000 ess i traded 10,028 to avoide exact number detection
3. i ALWAYS no matter what i was getting traded something in return such as 5 bronze pics i got on the table at barb village
leader
2006-05-31 18:38:20
Thanks for the info Brownsmycard.
I mostly use the drop method. But I haven't traded for a while.
Avaphi
2006-06-01 20:40:50
fawkzi, wizzup, Do you use proxys?
testje
2006-12-15 10:39:00
I'm using a very bad method:
I have two browsers with RS opened at the same time (both signed without uid deletion) and then I log in at the same time.
Never got banned using this.
Sometimes I use a mm
sythe
2006-12-15 20:50:31
Their drop trade detection system will be pretty simple. All the ground items for a given world are probably in a serperate table in their database. Along with this information would be the quantity. It is rare that someone would 'accidentally' drop 5k coal or something. So they probably have a threashold check. If (item.totalvalue > xxx || item.quanity > yyy) report(item.previousOwner); something like this.
Obvious solution is to sell the goods while still using your auto account, get gold. Use the gold to buy a rare. Drop trade the rare, or stake for it, with your other account. Then have your other account sell the rare (you might even make additional profit). This is akin to real life money laundering so I get the feeling it will work quite well.
WT-Fakawi
2006-12-16 05:19:20
its a trade from UID<->UID, so thats ubereasy to detect, imho. I never drop-trade. Always thought this was the most easy way to detect, trading with 1 unique UID.
sythe
2006-12-16 23:36:55
From: WT-Fakawi
its a trade from UID<->UID, so thats ubereasy to detect, imho. I never drop-trade. Always thought this was the most easy way to detect, trading with 1 unique UID.
That doesn't explain why people are getting banned for trading with their sibblings but I agree thats probably another thing they watch for.
Infantry001
2006-12-17 00:43:10
Well, i have signed and unsigned applet. tahts how i trade. and i always give something in return for the stuff my autoers give me (like a couple of my 650 cut sapphires lol)
Dadeer
2006-12-18 16:15:45
i like the banker method 1 guy at every bank rofl that a good one
you could always have someone you trust at this site help you trade between characters
Sparrows
2006-12-18 21:19:24
I usually stick with using a Middle Man. Lets say you were to pay him 100k for transferring 10k iron ore. That looks legit but only pay him 50k first and then 50k when he gives back to your other account that way they are both traing items instead of giving items for free. This works well.. if you have the money?
wade11
2006-12-22 20:22:31
Nice thanks for the info!:f:
Macro_FTW
2007-01-10 18:38:31
Personally, I like a middle man, using signed and unsigned java applets on the same computer works well for me :) . A level 3 (middleman) stands there with 5 or 10 bronze picks, autoer gives 10021 (any uneven number 10k+, to avoid any confusion, wink wink) and then the middleman keeps it, trades with next auto, etc all the way down to having traded with all 20 autos, then my main trades some bronze picks for all the essence, howevermany my middleman payed and were all happy :D
be right bak
2007-01-22 17:31:01
I've been drop trading for a wile (like 5 months: havent been caught yet)… tnx for the tips ill use Fakawi's way insted of mine.
stylen
2007-02-11 20:19:25
Hey
I'm new to autoing so I'm still in the trial and error part.
My very first account got banned. I used a non SRL script.
Managed to get it to lvl 36 mining and give it a few pickaxes and stuff.
But it got banned.
My second and 3rd accounts are the ones I uses ATM. They are far from default clothes but I haven't dressed them with extras.
Going to give them both mith pick when they can wield them.
I train combat during the day. Used to get lots of randoms before but after training combat I can Mine for a few hours without a random.
I have a 4th account that is in tutorial island. Too lazy to do it and then complete the rune quest.
Will do soon though. Gonna need it.
BTW does anyone have a tutorial island script they are willing to share. Need to bring up my army. LOL
Oh about the trades.
Sorry Im new so writing a lot about me.
I'm New so I dont trade too much. I get like Max 2k Ess in 24hrs.
Never had a problem.
Use the signed and unsigned Java app to multi login and trade.
Oh and erm a very big thanks goes to Wizzup for his ess miner script.
I just earned 350k earlier today. My first payment from autoing :D
Mjordan
2007-02-11 20:39:10
well i always drop trade, and have been for about 3 years now. but i think ill go to Fawki's way
omgh4x0rz
2007-02-11 21:26:38
I don't understand Fakawi's way.
Why do you need a banker at every bank? And how is it different from any other trade between two of your characters? I don't see why it would make it any safer.
Boreas
2007-02-11 21:33:54
One at every bank is for convenience, for walking. Autoer to banker, banker to main, means autoer never contacts main. Banker acts as a buffer.
omgh4x0rz
2007-02-11 22:16:07
But couldn't they still ban your main, banker and autoer all for trading between accounts owned by the same person?
stylen
2007-02-12 13:46:36
Yes they can.
But it takes them 1 character longer.
SubiN
2007-02-12 14:14:22
From: WT-Fakawi
maybe there is a threshold mechanism based on value that is triggered for odd transfers? So say if you transfer 4999 Coal Ore, it wouldnt be noticed, but if you traded 5000 it would have….
This is how I trade: I have one banker at every Bank in the free world. My main only trades with these bankers. My bankers have never moved, they are all level-3, yet all their bankslots are filled with various priceless goodies. My army trades directly with these bankers, fairly uneven trades, like giving away 356 Coal and 249 Mithril ores for free, all the time :) . I have been doing this for the last year of so, never run into trouble with these bankers nor my main. (I have lost some Players yes, but that is another matter… )
o, vital detail, I always trade at very busy worlds, like 1, 3 and 29. Less obvious maybe…
u better make sure jagex dont read this lol :P..
stylen
2007-02-12 14:21:34
even if they do. there is nothing they can do.
to be able to auto detect that they'd have to have to impletent some preety heavy rules and it would eat too much processor.
So i doubt you've be getting caught easily.
Evil_Pker
2007-02-23 01:11:41
lol i drop trade a lot
how do u think i got 4k lob cages and 10k haproons?
Camouflage
2007-02-25 01:54:10
What i do…
I have a Main
A sub-main
A Staker
And hella loads of autoers :)
I trade the autoed goods to my staker… who stakes my sub-main (who lvls stuff to make it look like theyre his anyways) and then i pass them onto my main :D i aint ever been caught or anything.
pingiphatminer
2007-03-06 17:17:05
Wow brown. Lmfao.
legendaryhero90
2007-03-06 19:20:21
just have one trade the other…
one unsign and the other signed
trade the good stuff (cooked lobbies) and bad stuff (burned lobbies) back and forth
case closed:google:
i have 2 computers, if i log into my autoers for one comp, then trade stuff to a banker on the other comp, then trade the bankers stuff to my main will i get banned?
Harry
2007-04-14 17:02:50
I use a Virtual Machine make RS on both push trade then trade back… etc… I haven't been banned yet =)
-Harry
well, i just traded 12mill, and 20k death runes for a inv full of potatoes. I used 2 computers(how i always trade) and a proxy, so We'll see how that works out.
Macrosoft
2007-08-18 13:42:59
Nice guide!
I think the one where you attack the npc is really good, one of the best ideas i have seen
Hugolord
2007-08-18 13:57:45
From: Macrosoft
Nice guide!
I think the one where you attack the npc is really good, one of the best ideas i have seen
06-28-2007, 09:45 AM
GRAVEDIGGER!
Macrosoft
2007-08-18 15:33:37
From: hugolord
06-28-2007, 09:45 AM
GRAVEDIGGER!
whats that, is my noobyness showing??
warrockownz
2007-08-18 16:22:08
yes it bloody well is..
8arry 5tinkt
2007-08-18 17:01:31
i always go to the zammy monks take the wine and wait to die my brother keeps the door locked and my other brother takes my stuff
Macrosoft
2007-08-18 18:42:35
no, but whats a gravedigger?
Hugolord
2007-08-18 18:45:41

thats not it
In forums a gravedigger is an individual who spam a thread that is already a few moths old meaning the last post before yours was a few months old and its pointless because sometimes a thread most die.
Macrosoft
2007-08-18 20:51:41
OH , didn't notice that, I just thought it was a good guide. I myself hate it when i get like 300 views and 10 replys, so I decided to say how much i liked it, thats what everyone else was doing. I wasn't spamming…was i?
ChrisGA
2007-10-12 17:20:53
kinda hate to grave dig but dont wanna make a new post. How likely will it be for me to get banned using 2 computers but it logs same ip. Im under same network???? Should I change my IP often if its detectable? Dont wanna get my main banned for mining on same ip on different comp. Thanks