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Link?
Time to put on my jackass cap.

Ahh I love Timer anyway.. Nice guy, pretty smart. I have him on MSN. I'm not going to say he's lying because I'd be unfair. Only SOME WERE like that towards him. Zytex is nice, Freddy is nice though I don't see him around much anymore, Ben is nice to me, and Wanted/Icefire is nice though I don't seem him anymore either, Markus is nice. Yeah yeah I may have missed a few names, don't hold me to it. Just mentioning some that welcomed me and argued at the same time with me.

IIRC Timer got in an argument with the staff here and got banned then came back and got banned again or something.. Got my opinions on what was right and wrong.. I say just let it be and don't bother getting involved.

A post like this will get everyone arguing who was right and wrong.. I wouldn't flame Simba though. People here are pretty nice. It's as chill of a forum as you can get. We rarely have flame wars. You're pretty free around here I guess.

Zyt3x = my favorite mod <3
Not that I don't like any of the others!

From: Sin
Link?
Time to put on my jackass cap.

http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/692591-why-do-people-hate-simbaprefer-rsbot-over-it/

there ya go

Posted as EricClapton (Old Rs name at RD Where I got F'ed over)

Idk, timer is a young kid as far as I know, he's only 15.

But truly, who is anyone to flame a working bot when they are the main coder of a not-working bot?

Simba is a long term project in my eyes, it also teaches people a lot. Reflection works 1/3 days of the week and is so easy to code you don't really gain any experience.

Found the thread btw,

http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/692591-why-do-people-hate-simbaprefer-rsbot-over-it/

If you don't trust me, as I am a newcomer so its understandable, its in bot discussion and called "Why do people hate simba/prefer RSBot over it?"

Don't flame (at least not too hard). Lets not stoop to their level.

He's just mad because he got banned here.
He's more immature than me, believe it or not.

Purely because the forums look fake

That needs fixing.. LOL I thought the same thing back then as well. It's the mainpage/Satelite layout. The threads look nothing like that. And Wizzup is already working on a Scripts Manager plugin or something that will make things easier. Just reading why they don't like Simba should only help improve it I guess.

Powerbot is a full community with 13-15 years old members.

My eyes hurt after scrolling through that thread - they got really ugly skin w/font colours.

Anyway, I remember trying to join Villavu.. nightmare. Our homepage should direct us straight to the forums.

Who cares? It's Timer. This is just him being weak and showing his frustration.

Timer has been banned (permanently) several times on this forum for purposely starting flame wars over and over. He has been very offensive in general and was rarely helpful - in contrary to what some might state about him, he's been a very unlikable person around here. Not only that, but he has been spreading lies for years, trying to get people angry with me and others.

It's only natural he makes this kind of posts; he's pathetic and knows no better way to direct his rage and anger. He's probably incapable of a more mature standpoint. I'm happy he's no longer here and doesn't represent this community.

Perhaps he's just upset that we're an ever so strong and close community that he used to be part of. :)

E:

From: Brandon
That needs fixing.. LOL I thought the same thing back then as well. It's the mainpage/Satelite layout. The threads look nothing like that. And Wizzup is already working on a Scripts Manager plugin or something that will make things easier. Just reading why they don't like Simba should only help improve it I guess.

Yes, the main page has been an issue. Hobbit was working on a nice one but I haven't spoken to him in a long time.

Lol I prefer simba simply because it gives you the opportunity to learn how to code and turns newbies like me into contributers :D unlike the leechers on rsbot who live for the "free bots"

Purely because the forums look fake

I thought that was amusing, because they looked nice to me when I joined here long ago :p

From: ibuystoof
Idk, timer is a young kid as far as I know, he's only 15.

But truly, who is anyone to flame a working bot when they are the main coder of a not-working bot?

Simba is a long term project in my eyes, it also teaches people a lot. Reflection works 1/3 days of the week and is so easy to code you don't really gain any experience.

Found the thread btw,

http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/692591-why-do-people-hate-simbaprefer-rsbot-over-it/

If you don't trust me, as I am a newcomer so its understandable, its in bot discussion and called "Why do people hate simba/prefer RSBot over it?"

It isn't reflection… shows how much you know.

From: Chig
Lol I prefer simba simply because it gives you the opportunity to learn how to code and turns newbies like me into contributers :D unlike the leechers on rsbot who live for the "free bots"

Powerbot offers you the opportunity to learn as well. I have made a tutorial there.

Lol, alli can say is that I left their community that I have even forgot my log in details to their forums, SRL all the way

Aryan Vs SCAR + SRL
allllll over again.

One community is impatient as hell, while villavu is not. Guess its why we're still standing.

My SCAR accounts are still my main botting cash mules, My reflection chars are 6 years banned. Just sayin'

Timer I know you will read this.

GTFO butthurt kid.

When was the last time your bot was up and running for longer than a week?

From: Gripps
Powerbot offers you the opportunity to learn as well. I have made a tutorial there.

The difference is, learning is not encouraged. I'd bet almost none of the new SRL members would have learned how to script if they could just download any script they want without needing to learn a bit.

What I wrote on PB.
—

If you really must know…
Their staff are corrupt and jackasses, they act nice until they brain wash you.
Simba is a buggy, horrible replacement to SCAR, which made SRL possible.
SRL doesn't credit their origins, such as SCAR, which to date, is way better than Simba.

Honestly I have been there for more than half a year (Joined in November) Have yet to see one point of "brain washing" or "jackassness", I am greeted daily with great communication and friendliness. The staff has been nothing but helpful, a bit old fashioned but I believe that is exactly what the RS community needs at this point take us back to the roots of our success wanting what is BEST for the community, not money.
Simba is buggy? Simba can be used for more than RS, the only "Bugs" I see are in actual scripts where it is not Simba's fault but rather the Scripter's fault. (I run Simba for days at a time, so I can't imagine it is Simba) Also Everything I mean EVERYTHING is a work in progress, expect it to improve over time .
Simba does credit SCAR, it states where it came from sure not in every nook and cranny but does that really matter? As long as the general public knows where its roots are from, crediting them on every corner is not necessarily especially if anything past a certain point of time is completely unrelated to SCAR.

Let them wallow in their stupidity.

What really does this bring to the conversation at hand; shows the insecurity of some of the members of PB. This is one of the reasons I moved to SRL But don't lose hope, I know there is still a decent member base in PB who can spit value into a conversation (There are a few on this thread!) .
——
On an ending note, setting Simba up is easy. If you really need help SRL members (Like myself, are more than happy to help.)
Not trying to be cocky but just to warrant I was someone of a little importance I was an official middle man here at PB, back when we had Mybb forums (and an actual rank), and after that I was Moderator for a short period of time (elected, I wrote some essays/questions/etc.). I was also an author on rsbots.net, Moderator on Tip.it (Retired), and last but not least SRL member in SRL.

Best of luck PB , I know this community is a solid one and has a very good base I mean no disrespect I am just trying to say things as I see them.

From: R4nd0m
What I wrote on PB.
—


Honestly I have been there for more than half a year (Joined in November) Have yet to see one point of "brain washing" or "jackassness", I am greeted daily with great communication and friendliness. The staff has been nothing but helpful, a bit old fashioned but I believe that is exactly what the RS community needs at this point take us back to the roots of our success wanting what is BEST for the community, not money.
Simba is buggy? Simba can be used for more than RS, the only "Bugs" I see are in actual scripts where it is not Simba's fault but rather the Scripter's fault. (I run Simba for days at a time, so I can't imagine it is Simba) Also Everything I mean EVERYTHING is a work in progress, expect it to improve over time .
Simba does credit SCAR, it states where it came from sure not in every nook and cranny but does that really matter? As long as the general public knows where its roots are from, crediting them on every corner is not necessarily especially if anything past a certain point of time is completely unrelated to SCAR.

What really does this bring to the conversation at hand; shows the insecurity of some of the members of PB. This is one of the reasons I moved to SRL But don't lose hope, I know there is still a decent member base in PB who can spit value into a conversation (There are a few on this thread!) .
——
On an ending note, setting Simba up is easy. If you really need help SRL members (Like myself, are more than happy to help.)
Not trying to be cocky but just to warrant I was someone of a little importance I was an official middle man here at PB, back when we had Mybb forums (and an actual rank), and after that I was Moderator for a short period of time (elected, I wrote some essays/questions/etc.). I was also an author on rsbots.net, Moderator on Tip.it (Retired), and last but not least SRL member in SRL.

Best of luck PB , I know this community is a solid one and has a very good base I mean no disrespect I am just trying to say things as I see them.

And this is why we love you. Proving them wrong one grown up step at a time :)

Thanks R4nd0m

From: xtrapsp
Timer I know you will read this.

GTFO butthurt kid.

When was the last time your bot was up and running for longer than a week?

Last week you fuck.

From: Deni_mulic


One community is impatient as hell, while villavu is not. Guess its why we're still standing.

It's because villavu/SRL is a screen scraper that doesn't pose a threat to Jagex's game because it is a color bot.

You made yet another account… Well at least I can say you never give up. /golfclap

From: Gripps
It's because villavu/SRL is a screen scraper that doesn't pose a threat to Jagex's game because it is a color bot.

Your ignorance is dumbfounding.
I know someone who makes 1.7B/day goldfarming via Simba.
Not a threat my ass.

From: Narcle
You made yet another account… Well at least I can say you never give up. /golfclap

gripps isn't timer i remember that name from another botting site

i actually saw that on pb, as i was browsing google today :O I was actually sort of in shock. as soon as i came here, i spent less and less time on other injection bot websites. and my respect for timer has gone from little to near none.

From: Sin
Your ignorance is dumbfounding.
I know someone who makes 1.7B/day goldfarming via Simba.
Not a threat my ass.

What….? I have a hard time believing that.

From: Ortiz817
gripps isn't timer i remember that name from another botting site

Yeah my mistake, so I was told on IRC as well.

From: shstiger2009
What….? I have a hard time believing that.

I definitely do not. Depends what your actually using Simba for. Lets say we have frost drag scripts that run 24/7.. Lets say you sell paid scripts on other sites and take the money and buy gold.. Lets say your script merchants and buys and sells on GE and gets a ton..

That would be the explanations.

From: Gripps
It's because villavu/SRL is a screen scraper that doesn't pose a threat to Jagex's game because it is a color bot.

I don't believe timer is this stupid enough to say something like this. Because only the current jagex is low enough to spread bs like this to its players… Unfortunately most of their legitimate players (the 30-50% of their active users) do believe it… Then again they are either 14 years old and under or they don't posses the brain to realize that the statement couldn't be further from the truth.

This is off-topic from the OP, but it's related to Gripp's post:

It's because villavu/SRL is a screen scraper that doesn't pose a threat to Jagex's game because it is a color bot.

I like to believe we're not a threat to Jagex, but I doubt they'll see it the same way. It used to be SRL really was blended so well into the RS world we were invisible. I don't believe Jagex took much notice to us (nor RiD) because of comparison between us the much-popular Java bots (RSBot, RSBuddy, EpicBot, RareBot); as well as Aryan fitting into the same category (for those of you who go back that far).

You gotta look at it from their point of view, which just happens to be profit. An over flow of bots means few legit players, state it however you want that bots means money for Jagex, in the long run this drives away real (and potentially new) players. So, bot nuking & banning are priority now, and because Jagex know it'll take a blow to their income (temporarily) they'd using any methods they can to draw in more profit.

Now that players know what can be done with color-finding & simple logic, they're given an alternative to their previous Java bots. As a result Jagex has taken much more interest in us. Of course they'll label screen-scrapers has "buggy and rubish"; they know it won't be an easy task to stop something that reads a game visually like a human, and acts upon it in the same manner. They'll do whatever they can to convince people it's steer away from it.

Because in the end all they can hope to accomplish is slow down our usage & user-base, but they won't stop us. They know this, they just don't want you to know it.


Sorry for the off-topic post. :p Just felt like elaborating on how we do pose a threat to Jagex.

From: Ortiz817
gripps isn't timer i remember that name from another botting site

TRiBot, hes a moderator.

From: NZ John
TRiBot, hes a moderator.

Yes, I am a Moderator at TRiBot. At Powerbot, I go by Ridiculousness.
I am going to possibly be hired at Epicbot as a scripter.

Yet you don't know that color bots can't be stopped…

From: elietu

LOL their bot isnt up (or wasnt last time I checked), but rather than spending their entire time on fixing their own bot they spend it writing this sort of stuff? Wow, meaning no disrespect toward the person over there (dont know him, whether he is a good or bad person,etc…) but perhaps a priority check is in order where they take care of their own Bot members needs over there rather than worrying about us over here….

Just leave it guys. Don't venture into that community, don't start flame wars. That's not what we're about at all.

The only thing that I like about Powerbot is it's goals section and it's titles. Their "Sponsor" title is sooo…pretty. Anyway, yes, Simba is different to set up. It's for the best, keeps the 10 year olds out. Think of it as a 10+ IQ test.

From: Gripps
Yes, I am a Moderator at TRiBot. At Powerbot, I go by Ridiculousness.
I am going to possibly be hired at Epicbot as a scripter.

Tribot huh? You should learn from Trilez then.. He definitely won't say something so stupid as Color bots are just screenscrapers..

From: Wizzup?
Who cares? It's Timer. This is just him being weak and showing his frustration.

Timer has been banned (permanently) several times on this forum for purposely starting flame wars over and over. He has been very offensive in general and was rarely helpful - in contrary to what some might state about him, he's been a very unlikable person around here. Not only that, but he has been spreading lies for years, trying to get people angry with me and others.

It's only natural he makes this kind of posts; he's pathetic and knows no better way to direct his rage and anger. He's probably incapable of a more mature standpoint. I'm happy he's no longer here and doesn't represent this community.

Perhaps he's just upset that we're an ever so strong and close community that he used to be part of. :)

Make an injection bot or fuck off, he is a thousand times better a programmer than anyone on this website, as soon as Jagex released cluster flutterer you all gave up.

PS: My name is Dang on RSBot if anyone wants to spam my inbox or w/e idm.

From: iCURiP
Make an injection bot or fuck off, he is a thousand times better a programmer than anyone on this website, as soon as Jagex released cluster flutterer you all gave up.

PS: My name is Dang on RSBot if anyone wants to spam my inbox or w/e idm.

LOL.. Simba was never injection so what was there to give up on? Smart had Reflection. I don't see RSBot with reflection either so..

1000x better programmer in what language? I'd love to take up that challenge on the C++ side as I don't like Java as much. Also I'm pretty sure Benland would whoop his ass. You should say that Timer is the best on MoparIsTheBest and see what they think of your opinion. I remember someone said over there that RSBot devs were asking for help. LOL..

From: Brandon
LOL.. Simba was never injection so what was there to give up on? Smart had Reflection. I don't see RSBot with reflection either so..

1000x better programmer in what language? I'd love to take up that challenge on the C++ side as I don't like Java as much. Also I'm pretty sure Benland would whoop his ass. You should say that Timer is the best on MoparIsTheBest and see what they think of your opinion.

Injection is better than reflection you spastic.

Also Timer wrote Reflection for pascal although he deleted the files i think…
https://github.com/Timer/RRL

From: iCURiP
Injection is better than reflection you spastic.

Also Timer wrote Reflection for pascal…
https://github.com/Timer/RRL

LOL I know what injection is.. Don't bother trying to teach me anything. I don't see you programming it. Secondly you cannot say injection is better than reflection. Are you kidding me? You tell me which one is cleaner then we'll talk. RRL btw was always behind in everything.. I've used it from the start. If you'd like a copy of the script then just say so but I'll warn you how bad it failed at it's job. I also asked Timer to change the extension from .txt a while back when I USED it..

How are you defending stuff you've never touched?

He's an adolescent kid who hasn't had his brain fully developed yet. Powerbot was the joke of the botting community before the first bot nuke and it always will be afterwards. Unless they find a new developer. One who can actually create a bot with professional standards.

From: iCURiP
Injection is better than reflection you spastic.

Also Timer wrote Reflection for pascal although he deleted the files i think…
https://github.com/Timer/RRL

No it definitely isn't. Ever heard of NeXus? Only injection bot that came close to it was rsbuddy.

From: Brandon
LOL I know what injection is.. Don't bother trying to teach me anything. I don't see you programming it. Secondly you cannot say injection is better than reflection. Are you kidding me? You tell me which one is cleaner then we'll talk. RRL btw was always behind in everything.. I've used it from the start. If you'd like a copy of the script then just say so but I'll warn you how bad it failed at it's job.

How the fuck would you know if I can write an injection/reflection bot?, and if I couldn't we are talking about Timer.

Injection is far better and less detectable by far, if you think otherwise your far worse a moron than you appear.

The fact still stands that Timer wrote it, I don't see any of the so called programmers here getting even close to implementing "inflection"

From: Gripps
Last week you fuck.

lolololololololololololol umad because im right :3


if the fags from PB wanna be childish. So will I


Im EricClapton ex mod of Runedream. I know a thing or two about corrupt communities xD

From: iCURiP
How the fuck would you know if I can write an injection/reflection bot?, and if I couldn't we are talking about Timer.

Injection is far better and less detectable by far, if you think otherwise your far worse a moron than you appear.

The fact still stands that Timer wrote it, I don't see any of the so called programmers here getting even close to implementing "inflection"

I know because of the amount of crap you are talking..

Inject has to inject code into the client to get what it wants.. What makes you think that is more safe than reflection you moron.
Injection is better in speed but your trying to tell me detection? Pft go read a programming tutorial.

Secondly. Timer isn't God.. He isn't the best programmer. Like I said, back your words up and let him know I'll take up a C++ challenge against him anyday. Java I know I may lose but I won't bet on it.

Last but not least. what part of colour bot don't u understand? The algorithms that go into a colour bot is far more complexed than that which goes into an injection bot that feeds you all the data you need. Scripting in colour is far more complexed than it is for Reflection and Injection. All your shitty API's are there for you already. Your not inventing anything. Just sucking off another guy's work.

Colour vs Injection. I might as well go over there too and ask "Why the F does RSBot not have bitmap Finding" "I don't see the shitty devs over there with BitmapFinding"

"Where is my TPA's"..

Geez what a moron. Oh and I read IceFire's post. It was pretty accurate for his situation. Anyway you need to read my first post. Timer is a good guy but he's definitely not the best. If your challenge is still standing by the time these flame wars are done, you can PM me and I'll be sure to take it up with him on MSN.

From: iCURiP
Make an injection bot or fuck off, he is a thousand times better a programmer than anyone on this website, as soon as Jagex released cluster flutterer you all gave up.

1: Jagex already released cluster flutter. The next bot nuke is called optimus.
Also when they released cluster flutter, all the other bots ( except for Rid, scar and simba) bend over in seconds.
This is a recording of simba working literally minutes after jagex released cluster flutter.
[youtube]1szB3mYDBmI[/youtube]
Look at the date : October 25th 2011. And you can see the graphics change as result of cluster flutter aswell.


2:Timer was a member here aswell. He has talent and I still respect him. But he doesn't need you to make him look like a complete showoff.

From: iCURiP
Injection is far better and less detectable by far, if you think otherwise your far worse a moron than you appear.

3: If you have brain, you just have to think about it. By using color, simba is controlling runescape as any human do and without modifying it in any way.

If you are using injection. You are SENDING PACKETS to the rs client and read the value afterwards. Jagex can detect this, and done it before to RSBOTS. When there was just massive ban hammers back in 2008-2009 and people were leaving that place asap. At the moment, they just can't afford to lose any more membership money, which is why they are leaving yall behind.


If you aren't using your brain thus doesn't believe what I am saying. Here is a clip of a defcon talk about game hacking and botting techniques.

[youtube]HXGSCMFAGwQ[/youtube]
Look at 14:50

*The speaker is a highly experienced game security profession and has been working in the industry before the existence of runescape.*

From: iCURiP
Injection is better than reflection you spastic.

4: Hurray! The first semi accurate post..

While injection can be more accurate and powerful than reflection, it is still a lot easier to detect. Thus making it the most dangerous option of them all.

From: iCURiP

The fact still stands that Timer wrote it, I don't see any of the so called programmers here getting even close to implementing "inflection"

5: Am pretty sure powerbot doesn't use reflection anymore. Which is what inflection means: injection + reflection.
Also, is it even up?





Communities like RSBOTS, RSBUDDY, Powerbot, epic bot, runedream are all profit driven. They see their money more than their community. Which is why when the bot is gone, the community went dead.

Villavu is a open source community where we share the interest in scripting color based bots for fun and pleasure. Simba is a powerful compiler that has some wonder features and can be used in 1 TRILLIONG More ways than other java bots.

We won't spam you on inbox. Because its not worth our time, effort and we don't want to create an account on a community that might try to hack its users. But you may feel free to go back to them. Because if you stay here with that altitude, you'll be laughed at and might even be banned.

Cheers :)

Stop the hostilities. There is absolutely no need for it.

I commend you for being such a passionate supporter of a different botting platform… but would not your effort be better spent OVER THERE helping YOUR community get YOUR bot back up 100% rather than trying to "stir the pot" over here?

Seems like (and I dont know you so I will take your word at face value for the moment) since you care so much for YOUR community that THAT should be your top priority…..spending even ONE more post over here would definitely force you to lose credibility as far as your sincere love for your botting platform.

From: Brandon
I know because of the amount of crap you are talking..

Inject has to inject code into the client to get what it wants.. What makes you think that is more safe than reflection you moron.
Injection is better in speed but your trying to tell me detection? Pft go read a programming tutorial.

Secondly. Timer isn't God.. He isn't the best programmer. Like I said, back your words up and let him know I'll take up a C++ challenge against him anyday. Java I know I may lose but I won't bet on it.

Last but not least. what part of colour bot don't u understand? The algorithms that go into a colour bot is far more complexed than that which goes into an injection bot that feeds you all the data you need. Scripting in colour is far more complexed than it is for Reflection and Injection. All your shitty API's are there for you already. Your not inventing anything. Just sucking off another guy's work.

Colour vs Injection. I might as well go over there too and ask "Why the F does RSBot not have bitmap Finding" "I don't see the shitty devs over there with BitmapFinding"

"Where is my TPA's"..

Geez what a moron. Oh and I read IceFire's post. It was pretty accurate for his situation. Anyway you need to read my first post. Timer is a good guy but he's definitely not the best. If your challenge is still standing by the time these flame wars are done, you can PM me and I'll be sure to take it up with him on MSN.

You will most definitely lose..
You couldn't out program dang nor me.

From: iCURiP
Make an injection bot or fuck off, he is a thousand times better a programmer than anyone on this website, as soon as Jagex released cluster flutterer you all gave up..

I've been sitting here for about 10 minutes, listening to this beautiful song and I can't find the words to explain to you how wrong and misguided you are. I don't think I'll even try to explain what a programmer really is about and how it's not about cracking a client.

You should however know that all this client hacking started with a few of our members here (and on mitb), including BenLand100, who created the foundation for client hacking as you know it today. Speljohan and others picked it up; what's left right now are just a few pathetic groups still building on this and trying to reap whatever money they can.

You won't find any of the grand (if we can say there are grand programmers in RS cheating) programmers at powerbot; you'll find them here and on MITB.

Any further crap by you will result in a ban.

Locked.

@Brandon, just let them praise Timer. Hahaha.

How about you all just grow up ok? It's clearly a troll and you all felt for it.

/thread.