SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

Money


TomTuff

2012-04-19 01:41:56

It has gotten to the point where it is incredibly difficult to make money quickly in this game. There are several ways that money can be made at a very fast rate:
  • Staking
  • Gambling hosting (dicing, flowers)
  • "illegitamate" methods (ddosing, scamming, luring)

(I'm discounting gold farming - this post should be thought of as more from a "legit" player's view)

Outside of this, there is only really bossing, gathering, and skilling for profit. Bosses that are quickly accessible (i.e. you don't need to get a team together to get there) (e.g. Graardor, kree'ara, tormented demons, glacors) are not profitable enough (BCP/Tassets at 11-12m, arma hilt at 22m, acp/arma skirt at 10-12m, claws at 12-13m) simply aren't good enough anymore. Even for bosses like Nex/Corp, you have to take the time to assemble a team or find one on the forums/with clan mates, which can take 15+ mins to get together. Past that, a lot of luck is required (drop rates on corporeal beast are rumored to be less than 1 in 5000 on sigils, only 4 of 10 of Nex's drop are over a 25m split on a 6 man team) to get decent drops. Gather/skilling for profit are less than 3m an hour (usually) so lets not even go there.

The 3 things listed above all are only open to select groups of people or require luck/knowledge that a normal player doesn't have. Staking is all luck unless you can perform glitches to get the edge (or maybe there's something I'm missing?), gambling hosting can cost several bil to get a rank in a clan where you will actually get bets, and ddosing/scamming/luring takes very special knowledge to do (and in regards to luring, it's really not that great of money - I can tell you that from personal experience).

Maybe Jagex should consider this. In order for someone to get enough money to max out their account at a reasonable speed and afford all the good items (nex sets, spirit shields), they need to either have a ridiculous amount of time on their hands to sit at bosses or picking flax, or be able to get on to the other side of things and do the things in the "fast money" list (which is hard).

Maybe I'm just bad at scape.
not really sure where I was going with this thread.

Grihmm

2012-04-19 01:46:18

3m an hour isn't something to scoff at.

TomTuff

2012-04-19 01:47:31

From: Grihmm
3m an hour isn't something to scoff at.


~750 hours to afford a max cape and a full Nex set and divine spirit shield. And besides, 3m an hour is at the very best rate of skilling, I'm not sure if you can even do that anymore (grenwalls maybe?)

Neznam

2012-04-19 01:47:35

At flowers ive made anywhere from 10-50M a day.
Sadly recently I lost 500m to a "friend" so its a little harder getting people interested in betting with you when you dont "look" rich.

I was a pretty good host.
I had both red mask and blue mask. When someone would call cold on a 1m+ only bet id change mask to blue and say "for extra luck", if the call was hot id change to red mask. It was a pretty good way of attracting people, you know put on a lil show I suppose.

Biggest bet I had was 16m, and the girl won, the she won an 8m bet, luckly I still had a 30m profit that day. Oh well, gatta start over again.

Total

2012-04-19 01:51:08

From: TomTuff
~750 hours to afford a max cape and a full Nex set and divine spirit shield. And besides, 3m an hour is at the very best rate of skilling, I'm not sure if you can even do that anymore (grenwalls maybe?)


Well I think thats the point of the nex gears and divine/ely spirit shield. It is a goal that is hard to achieve. As for cash/hr if you have 95 slayer cannoning ganodermic beasts is actually 3m+/hr if you do it correctly.

Grihmm

2012-04-19 01:54:45

750 hours is only 31 days of play. That seems pretty realistic and fair to me.

Sir Ducksworthy

2012-04-19 02:48:55

Botting's still the $h1z, I'm making 2.5M an hour on 10 Trial acc's running at once which is pretty Leet over 24 hrs it adds up to 55m a day lol

begginer

2012-04-19 03:37:20

Yeah. They should consider this too. Making money. Should be little easier.

sm321

2012-04-19 03:55:14

Staking can be a VERY profitable money making method. A blue party hat stake takes ~2 minutes, and in that time you can make 2.1B…The downside however, if you lose you have lost 2.1B. That's where glitches are involved ;) So staking is probably one of the best methods on there, aslong as you switch styles, and know when to stop.

Caotom

2012-04-19 04:06:21

The issue that Jagex would run into if they tried to make anyway of making profit via skilling/bossing is one of two things, both stem from the fact that the profitability of any item is driven by the in game market (supply/demand).
If a new, great, way of money making came out (like a boss) the item would quickly fall into a value category based on the difficulty and requirements of the boss, and would most likely fall in time after that due to novelty/rarity falling and the item may be outdated.

If Jagex tried to force it so that skillers/bossers could make more money, all they would be realistically doing would be inflating the market and causing the 'value' of gp to go down.

Honestly I can't see much that Jagex could do, besides 31 days gameplay seems perfectly normal to 'semi-complete' a grind game like runescape.

~Caotom

Gillzo

2012-04-19 12:38:08

i remember years ago i used to buy harpoons from fish shop in fally for 50gp ea and bank at deposit box then re-sell them to ge and realised they sold for 1kea so i started merching them. made 20m+ a day from merching harpoons lol this was about 2years ago tho now merching is to common hardly works

Sin

2012-04-19 12:40:59

Tom, if you'd like, you can come on a Corp trip with me sometime.
I have a method (Toxin can vouch for it ;)) where you get almost a guaranteed sigil every trip. It takes about 3-4 days of planning though.

P1nky

2012-04-19 12:42:56

I beleive it has became easier… Take risk by gambling well than start merchanting.

Back when I use to cut yews legitly for money, that was when earning RSGP was hard.


Think about it Mate :)

Sirenia

2012-04-19 12:48:17

From: TomTuff


and in regards to luring, it's really not that great of money - I can tell you that from personal experience.


Its very good money - I can tell you that from personal experience.

TomTuff

2012-04-19 16:11:43

From: Sirenia
Its very good money - I can tell you that from personal experience.


It's also stressful and the periods of time where you don't get anything are frustrating.

ssshhhaaa

2012-04-19 16:52:47

From: TomTuff
It's also stressful and the periods of time where you don't get anything are frustrating.

I can second that :/

Neznam

2012-04-19 17:03:18

From: Sin
Tom, if you'd like, you can come on a Corp trip with me sometime.
I have a method (Toxin can vouch for it ;)) where you get almost a guaranteed sigil every trip. It takes about 3-4 days of planning though.


Hmm.
Ive gone due corp with a friend. Out of the 100 times we've killed it, nothing above a 2m drop. A sig almost every trip and takes days to plan? Sounds fishy, but oh well, perhaps there are ways unknown to the rest that are legit. Damn I sure could use a sig drop for my 99 prayer, oh well perhaps sticking to killing corp with a friend may get us one…

Cerylin

2012-04-19 17:05:55

You can make money from merchanting although sadly they've made changes to prevent people from flipping which is really annoying.

Er1k

2012-04-21 00:15:58

Honestly I agree that aside from staking/gambling I don't see a good way out to get cash quickly on a "legit" basis.

For someone like me who's not even half experienced at PVM let alone PVP, I only see the way out with botting. I guess it's slightly better than buying a 138 and then scamming people by hosting lol…

Recursive

2012-04-21 01:00:56

Botting is the only way I can make money in the game without loosing my mind. Seriously after 5 years of playing this game, botting skills is the most fun I've ever had. But now, what do people bot nowadays to make money? My last exam is tomorrow, then I can start playing on a desktop with a mouse; I might try some luring or staking.

b_lone

2012-04-21 01:43:49

Best LEGIT money making I can think of from scratch is Grenwall hunting…..it's 1.2m-ish an hour…but com' on…1.2m is NOTHING and not to talk about the requirements…forever poor~

EDIT: .6 = 1m so if you were to legit play…you'd be making $0.60 an hour…fk legit play…no longer worth it…easier to get a job making $8 an hour and buy gold tbh…

Er1k

2012-04-21 04:20:13

From: b_lone
Best LEGIT money making I can think of from scratch is Grenwall hunting…..it's 1.2m-ish an hour…but com' on…1.2m is NOTHING and not to talk about the requirements…forever poor~

EDIT: .6 = 1m so if you were to legit play…you'd be making $0.60 an hour…fk legit play…no longer worth it…easier to get a job making $8 an hour and buy gold tbh…


Good comparison when you equate that to IRL cash. Screw legit playing. Only skills can't be bought instantly except with that stupid wheel, so I guess the way to go is to buy rsgp, bot skills :D

alexes

2012-04-21 07:42:26

You can try merching it's a really good way to make money. A friend made 500m in a week :P

Er1k

2012-04-21 07:45:21

From: alexes
You can try merching it's a really good way to make money. A friend made 500m in a week :P


What do you merch? Merch clan speculation or just flipping?

litoris

2012-04-21 10:35:01

Don't know about members but you can get quite a lot of money legit in f2p compared to the crazy botting era. I got 1m in 5 days(monday-friday) playing 2-3 hours every night, and I got 800k xp in different skills while earning the money.

If you compare the cash flow to real life, runescape is fo course down by a factor of 10. You can just buy the RSGP if you want.