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Demiscythe.


Home

2012-03-14 14:09:43

I'm tired of her acts to get attention. First of all she tells everyone how awsome she is. Suddenly she is total shit.

Secondly she deletes all her threads and posts because someone said something to her at IRC? Or because she can't use pornographic picture in her sig.

I think that this has come way too far and needs some actions.


~Home

Kyle Undefined

2012-03-14 14:16:52

I've just ended up ignoring her for the most part, it's getting annoying.

Markus

2012-03-14 14:52:43

It's something we can not really do something about.. Accept it, but give her some positive attention, she needs it.

Dgby714

2012-03-14 15:10:12

I have her ignored on the forums as well as the majority of her nicks ignored on IRC.

Flight

2012-03-14 21:25:31

I'm SO glad I'm not the only one who see's it from this point of view. The arrogant attitude is really annoying. Back-seat moderator, this is also against the rules and calls for an infraction. I really have little respect for people who think the world revolve around them.

A bit off topic, but I get the same "high-and-mighty" impression from Sin alot of the time.

senrath

2012-03-14 21:26:31

I'm just ignoring her, really. Why give her the attention she wants?

Kyle Undefined

2012-03-15 09:23:54

From: Flight
I'm SO glad I'm not the only one who see's it from this point of view. The arrogant attitude is really annoying. Back-seat moderator, this is also against the rules and calls for an infraction. I really have little respect for people who think the world revolve around them.

A bit off topic, but I get the same "high-and-mighty" impression from Sin alot of the time.


I tried being her friend, and she can be cool, but the latest stunt was the last straw.

Also, I feel the same way about Sin.

Home

2012-03-15 09:27:39

I find Sin a little bit High Up (Being extremely proud) But he haven't done such a tricks as Demise has done.

I know that she has some problems (Read fro other thread) But what so ever it doesn't grant her permission to act like a moron.



~Home

weequ

2012-03-15 10:45:57

I feel the same about both of them but I think that's just the way they are. It doesn't really bother me anymore.

E: What stunt are you talking about?

Kyle Undefined

2012-03-15 11:00:24

From: weequ
I feel the same about both of them but I think that's just the way they are. It doesn't really bother me anymore.

E: What stunt are you talking about?


She threatened to end her life, and when I told her not to do it she basically told me to F off and leave her alone. That's not the only time she's done it either, this was about the third time. Each time I gave in and gave her the attention that she wanted.

I've had really good friends commit suicide, so I don't take someone using that for attention lightly.

weequ

2012-03-15 11:19:20

From: Kyle Undefined
She threatened to end her life, and when I told her not to do it she basically told me to F off and leave her alone. That's not the only time she's done it either, this was about the third time. Each time I gave in and gave her the attention that she wanted.

I've had really good friends commit suicide, so I don't take someone using that for attention lightly.
Ok.

Flight

2012-03-15 12:50:18

From: Kyle Undefined
I've had really good friends commit suicide, so I don't take someone using that for attention lightly.


No kidding, that's not something you joke around with. I've also had two of my own friends commit suicide in the past, things like that leave scars on everyone, I'm sure you can understand, Kyle.

Hobbit

2012-03-15 13:12:40

So basically she is turning into another ian.
Except she actually contributed prior to the suicidal threats for attention.

Really there is not much we can do. Just don't jab at her, like a thread like this in her view. If it is really necessary for you to discuss something about her, keep it in higher boards.

Many people go through this phase, some worse than others, some more public than others. I know I went through it but I kept it to myself and very few people as it was actually a consideration and not a cry for attention. That being said, we aren't in a position to call her's a cry for attention. We can't read her mind and know her thoughts. She could be very serious but may be a public person. We all cope and deal with things in different ways.

Just try to ignore her if it bothers you and don't post anything that may set her off. Hers is a situation that needs to be handled very delicately.

cause

2012-03-15 13:13:17

Honestly thats really nice of you Kyle, but it definitely is unfair of her to put that on you.

Kyle Undefined

2012-03-15 14:14:53

From: Flight
No kidding, that's not something you joke around with. I've also had two of my own friends commit suicide in the past, things like that leave scars on everyone, I'm sure you can understand, Kyle.


Yes, I know how that feels. They were one of my closest friends and every time someone mentions doing that, all I can think about is my friend and it brings back those horrible memories.

From: Hobbit
So basically she is turning into another ian.
Except she actually contributed prior to the suicidal threats for attention.

Really there is not much we can do. Just don't jab at her, like a thread like this in her view. If it is really necessary for you to discuss something about her, keep it in higher boards.

Many people go through this phase, some worse than others, some more public than others. I know I went through it but I kept it to myself and very few people as it was actually a consideration and not a cry for attention. That being said, we aren't in a position to call her's a cry for attention. We can't read her mind and know her thoughts. She could be very serious but may be a public person. We all cope and deal with things in different ways.

Just try to ignore her if it bothers you and don't post anything that may set her off. Hers is a situation that needs to be handled very delicately.


I honestly don't know what set her off, one moment she was fine and then it was like an atomic bomb went off.

I've always been nice to her and friendly, talked to her on IRC a lot, helped her with a lot of her scripts, etc. It got to the point where if I wasn't talking because I was busy with work or out with friends, she would question if I hated her or mad at her for no apparent reason. I never gave her a reason to think like that.

It just bothers me that after everything I did for her, the shit I got for taking her side, and everything else, she uses suicide to get even more attention from me.

I still talk to her and am still friendly, but I'm not doing what I was before.

From: cause
Honestly thats really nice of you Kyle, but it definitely is unfair of her to put that on you.


I agree, and thank you.

Home

2012-03-15 15:25:51

From: Kyle Undefined
Yes, I know how that feels. They were one of my closest friends and every time someone mentions doing that, all I can think about is my friend and it brings back those horrible memories.



I honestly don't know what set her off, one moment she was fine and then it was like an atomic bomb went off.

I've always been nice to her and friendly, talked to her on IRC a lot, helped her with a lot of her scripts, etc. It got to the point where if I wasn't talking because I was busy with work or out with friends, she would question if I hated her or mad at her for no apparent reason. I never gave her a reason to think like that.

It just bothers me that after everything I did for her, the shit I got for taking her side, and everything else, she uses suicide to get even more attention from me.

I still talk to her and am still friendly, but I'm not doing what I was before.



I agree, and thank you.


I'v takes lot of crap in my life. And I'm being honest. If someone is shit to me, then I will try to be nice, but if the ship keeps coming. I will say what I say.

I'm sorry for your loss Kyle.

~Home

YoHoJo

2012-03-15 15:36:35

Someone care to say what's happened with her recently?
I noticed she deleted/removed a lot of her stuff, including her DTM tutorial.
What else? And why?

Home

2012-03-15 15:39:01

From: YoHoJo
Someone care to say what's happened with her recently?
I noticed she deleted/removed a lot of her stuff, including her DTM tutorial.
What else? And why?


I stated some reasons in OP. Someoen said something to her At IRC. Someone Kicked her from IRC. Some extremely stupid reasons.


~Home

WT-Fakawi

2012-03-16 03:23:25

Yes sounds like true bipolarity. Manic disorder resulting in upper highs and super lows, and doubts about everything all-the-time. Chemical unbalance it is. Dangereous it is too.

I will try to adress him/her tonight. Can someone briefly fill me in? (stuff she did)

Wizzup?

2012-03-16 10:36:27

From: WT-Fakawi
Yes sounds like true bipolarity. Manic disorder resulting in upper highs and super lows, and doubts about everything all-the-time. Chemical unbalance it is. Dangereous it is too.

I will try to adress him/her tonight. Can someone briefly fill me in? (stuff she did)


I fear that will only be counter productive. From what I've read/seen she doesn't appear to be reasonable.

Kyle Undefined

2012-03-16 10:54:56

She had a signature that pushed the limits really, and then basically moaned to Wizzup? on IRC that she should be allowed to have it because smurg had a link in his sig for his site. When he (Wizzup?) told her that she needed to change it, she basically melted down.

I was honestly confused about the whole situation.

Markus

2012-03-16 11:11:53

More in general: really wants attention, easily stepped on the toes, and yes the extreme mood swings. Claims suicide attempts, but no idea how serious she is about those.
There's no evil in her. But honestly she needs (RL) help we can't give her.

Flight

2012-03-16 12:14:20

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about:

Demise makes a merchanting script. Home offers her a piece of code he created himself to better her script. He also released this function to the public to use. Also, take note that this function was already in the SRL library from aeons ago.

Demise gets upset that Home released this (his own) function to the public. She asks him not to do that because it was her idea to make a GE (merchanting) script.

From: DemiseScythe
It is back up for whoever wants to use it, Home please do not rewrite part of it and release on public forums since that will crash the profits as registered users gain the ability to make these type of scripts. I know you wish to help but keep this member+ so that the profits do not get destroyed and the RS market crashed; nothing personal Home but don't publish code inspired from my script on the public forums, thank you.


Here's my reply to that:

From: Flight

Hm wait a minute. Home never released any part of your script to the public, the closest he's come to GE-related code was giving out this function. It's basically an overhauled version of this:

function GEBuy(What, Price, Quantity: string): boolean;
var
free, x, y:integer;
begin
if not InGE then exit;
if not GEFindFreeSpot(free) then exit;

if GEBuyAt(free) then
begin
wait(50+ Random(50));

if (GetColor(231, 362) <> 23200) then //checking for Item Search
begin
Mouse(125, 117, 7, 7, true);
wait(200+random(50));
end;

TypeSend(lowercase(What));
wait(150+Random(100));

if FindColor(x, y, 23200, 66, 348, 120, 354) then //if it finds our thing
begin
Mouse(x, y, 5, 3, true);
wait(100+Random(100));
end else begin
writeln('Wrong object name');
exit;
end;

wait(100+Random(100));
if not GESetPrice(Price) then exit;
wait(200+Random(100));
GESetQuantity(Quantity);
wait(200+Random(100));
Result := GEConfirmOffer;
end;
end;

That's been in the library for ages. You can't take credit for "code inspired" from your script when actually the code and basic idea have been there all along. If that's the case, then what's to stop Rasta Magician from coming here and saying the same?

Obviously not meant to offend in any way, but do you understand what I'm saying? You can't put a lock on an idea. But if it were actual code straight from your script then yeah, you should say something about that.


Moments later she edited her post and immediately PM'd me:
From: DemiseScythe

Fine w/e, can you please remove the spam off my script thread, thank you



Seems to me like she was embarrassed from me having made that post that showed she had no right to tell Home to remove his function, and simply didn't want others to see my post. As requested I removed what I said, but it's quite obvious why she wanted it removed.

Hobbit

2012-03-16 12:20:56

Indeed, and my fear is if someone (ie: Fakawi) trys to talk to her she may take that the wrong way and melt down on that. But maybe you (Fakawi) will be the one to get through to her as you mentioned on another thread that you had a bipolar co-worker. I really do hope she will listen to you. She says she had meds for it but I believe she is either lying or not taking them, or needs to go back to her doctor for a dosage change.

It seems like weekly I have to have a lengthy conversation with her and re-convince her that the forum is not conspiring against her, amongst other things. TBH I have little time to keep having the same conversation over and over and it is starting to take a tole on my emotionally aswell. I would like to be there for her and help her, but that is really not my role. I really do not know where to go from here with her.

Kyle Undefined

2012-03-16 12:32:28

From: Hobbit
It seems like weekly I have to have a lengthy conversation with her and re-convince her that the forum is not conspiring against her, amongst other things. TBH I have little time to keep having the same conversation over and over and it is starting to take a tole on my emotionally aswell. I would like to be there for her and help her, but that is really not my role. I really do not know where to go from here with her.


That's what I have been doing, and your point about it affecting you too is exactly how I felt. It's not anyone's job to keep her from flipping out or melting down. There are doctors for a reason.

cause

2012-03-16 12:56:45

Flight she sent me the same pm, I probably was more deserving of it though

GoF

2012-03-16 13:20:10

The other day I gave him/her some money and tried to give him/her some tips on staking for rebuilding his/her bank on RS. It went somewhat well until he/she decided to suddenly go all in after I said not to. That resulted in him/her losing and pretty much flipping shit and getting angry at me, leaving and returning shortly after, and getting even more angry and dramatic at me (for something that wasn't my fault in any way).

Any kind of e-psychiatry probably won't do any good though, no matter what kind of silly things he/she does. Trying to diagnose someone you don't really know and have never met with something over the internet (without any kind of qualification(?)) will most likely just make things worse. At least if you start talking about bipolar etc. This could all just be a fun game for him/her. Intentionally confusing or angering people is a fairly common hobby on the internet.

noidea

2012-03-16 18:18:18

What a coincidence: this thread, then her thread. You know, just sayin'.
+ stuff has been leaked to her before from this section.

Flight

2012-03-16 19:44:59

From: noidea
What a coincidence: this thread, then her thread. You know, just sayin'.
+ stuff has been leaked to her before from this section.


I noticed the same thing…

Daniel

2012-03-16 21:54:40

From: noidea
What a coincidence: this thread, then her thread. You know, just sayin'.
+ stuff has been leaked to her before from this section.

Obviously the stupid people that leak this content to her have little regard for her health and safety.

Also do take into consideration, it could be another attempt for attention and praise.

Bam Bam

2012-03-16 22:48:08

From: Daniel
Obviously the stupid people that leak this content to her have little regard for her health and safety.

Also do take into consideration, it could be another attempt for attention and praise.


Why would anyone leak anything to her from here? And are we unsure if she's a guy/girl or something?

I just always thought she was a bitch, I didn't realise there was so much instability.

-Bam Bam

Bam Bam

2012-03-16 22:49:26

What's this crap about her being a bad human being?

NCDS

2012-03-16 23:13:58

From: Daniel

Also do take into consideration, it could be another attempt for attention and praise.

Sounds like it to me.

Daniel

2012-03-16 23:20:43

From: Bam Bam
Why would anyone leak anything to her from here? And are we unsure if she's a guy/girl or something?

It has been done before.

Home

2012-03-17 04:44:58

I'v tried help her before but I noticed that what ever I did, I did it wrong.

We have no qualification of doctors, she would need to go talk about her issues IRL.

I'm worried + Annoyed by her.

~Home

Bam Bam

2012-03-17 09:59:59

From: Daniel
It has been done before.


What has been leaked to her before?

Wizzup?

2012-03-17 10:28:34

From: noidea
What a coincidence: this thread, then her thread. You know, just sayin'.
+ stuff has been leaked to her before from this section.


I don't know anything about this, perhaps someone hinted her, but to me this sounds like problem solved. :)

Daniel

2012-03-17 20:12:00

From: Bam Bam
What has been leaked to her before?


This, among other such comments in that thread and others. Far worse than this topic, yes, but still ill-advised to leak anything to her which goes against her given her condition.

Kyle Undefined

2012-03-18 16:45:17

I remember her telling me that Markus "hated" her, she linked me to a puu.sh link that had the quote Daniel linked to.

Didn't know how she got it, or from whom, but didn't really care either.

Gu3st...

2012-03-19 08:30:47

I find it quite sad that one of our users were "bullied" off the forums like this, even though some of you found her annoying or w/e…

Home

2012-03-19 08:38:24

From: Zyt3x
I find it quite sad that one of our users were "bullied" off the forums like this, even though some of you found her annoying or w/e…


I'm extremely kind (I mean it, In real life and here. I hardly say anything even if I find it annoying) But enough is enough..


~Home

Flight

2012-03-19 08:38:39

I'm not quite following you Zyt3x. Nobody, that I'm aware of, was bullying DemiseScythe. If anything, the discussions about her were kept here in the SSRL section (unless it's true someone's leaking info from here). I've seen some posts in the past in like the public section, some harsh comments were made about her, but that was quite a while in the past. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this thread not focused on her behavior as of late only?

Gu3st...

2012-03-19 13:58:43

From: Flight
I'm not quite following you Zyt3x. Nobody, that I'm aware of, was bullying DemiseScythe. If anything, the discussions about her were kept here in the SSRL section (unless it's true someone's leaking info from here). I've seen some posts in the past in like the public section, some harsh comments were made about her, but that was quite a while in the past. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this thread not focused on her behavior as of late only?
Yes, that's why I put "bullied" instead of bullied.

Our discussions about her on this forum made her leave. It doesn't really matter if it was in SSRL or not, the simple fact is this: we made her leave because we made her feel uncomfortable here.
And those posts cannot have been "quite a while in the past" as she hasn't really been an active member of the forum for "quite a while"… :p

I've seen a couple of pure flame posts against her and I do not like it, that's all; I wish this weren't done the way it was and that she wouldn't have left the forum.

Home

2012-03-19 17:19:01

From: Zyt3x
Yes, that's why I put "bullied" instead of bullied.

Our discussions about her on this forum made her leave. It doesn't really matter if it was in SSRL or not, the simple fact is this: we made her leave because we made her feel uncomfortable here.
And those posts cannot have been "quite a while in the past" as she hasn't really been an active member of the forum for "quite a while"… :p

I've seen a couple of pure flame posts against her and I do not like it, that's all; I wish this weren't done the way it was and that she wouldn't have left the forum.


I don't mean to troll or anything just bringing up the facts. She didn't leave..
She made that thread, mabey just to say sorry. She has not left.


~Home

WT-Fakawi

2012-03-20 03:20:31

Sry, I didnt contact Demise after all srysry, but I did scroll through his/her legend. She/he is emotionally unstable, she/he draws a lot of attention, and is highly frustrated with her/his life's situation. The constant: I am supercool vs. I am nothing is also typical of bipolarity (as she/he states having). This will not change and will continue to be a problem. Removing the thread about DTM's was very immature and based of wrong assumptions and these kinds of odd things can be expected from him/her in the future.


tl;dr: medication!. I will talk to him/her.

Daniel

2012-03-20 04:25:40

From: WT-Fakawi
Sry, I didnt contact Demise after all srysry, but I did scroll through his/her legend. She/he is emotionally unstable, she/he draws a lot of attention, and is highly frustrated with her/his life's situation. The constant: I am supercool vs. I am nothing is also typical of bipolarity (as she/he states having). This will not change and will continue to be a problem. Removing the thread about DTM's was very immature and based of wrong assumptions and these kinds of odd things can be expected from him/her in the future.


tl;dr: medication!. I will talk to him/her.


Place a circle around all the "her's".

Also, I've tried. The only way I could get through to her (the same as another bipolar friend) was to avoid trying to be nice, but instead tell them the truth as it is. She really appreciates that. (Note: This was from several months ago, when the magnitude of her situation was significantly larger).

Flight

2012-03-20 06:24:04

From: Daniel
Place a circle around all the "her's".

Also, I've tried. The only way I could get through to her (the same as another bipolar friend) was to avoid trying to be nice, but instead tell them the truth as it is. She really appreciates that. (Note: This was from several months ago, when the magnitude of her situation was significantly larger).


That didn't work out so well for me. I tried telling her that it wasn't her right to tell Home he couldn't release his own code because it was related to one of her scripts, she PM'd me and told me to remove the post ("spam" in her words). :/

To you and I it's the truth, to her it's a personal attack.

@Zyt3x:
Actually our discussions should not have been the reason she left (on a side note she never left, I see her online & posting daily) because our discussions are kept here in this section. Do you not find it a little odd that the day after (was it the day after or the same day?) this topic was made she made, yet again, created another "Apology & leaving" post?

Daniel

2012-03-20 07:38:00

From: Flight
That didn't work out so well for me. I tried telling her that it wasn't her right to tell Home he couldn't release his own code because it was related to one of her scripts, she PM'd me and told me to remove the post ("spam" in her words). :/

To you and I it's the truth, to her it's a personal attack.


Well, she came talking to me, and then I was like "okay, I'm just going to be completely honest with you". And said things to her as they were, with a bit of a harsh tone, without trying to be nice about it. After I told her why some applications have 1 yes on them if they are completely horrid because she was asking why. Now she does it to pretty much all applications, and states it too with a "why not ^.^" :-/

She does listen and pick up what you have to say if you just be honest to her without trying to be nice and sweet.