SRL Archive - Social Studies

Joseph Kony 2012


typestyle

2012-03-06 20:47:08

Soo I'm pretty sure you all watch youtube videos and have probably come across this video but, danm did it hit me hard.

It'd be awesome if you guys could share it as much as possible, it's a huge issue which has been ignored for years now.

Every little thing makes a big difference I know it's cliche but it's danm true, anyways here is the video, hopefully you pay attention to it and spread awareness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc

I know most of you are around 10-19 ish which is not a bad thing, don't take it wrongly, probably live in a developed country and have a pretty good life overall. But put yourself on these kids shoes man, it's just sickening at how they live.

Thanks for taking your time to read and hopefully watching the whole video.

12 / 4 / 2012 / [EDIT]: Well I'm pretty sure all of you know that this was sort of a publicity stunt, but on the bright side of things this video had a huge impact on teenagers and young adults. It was like a huge wake up call and it was everywhere for a week. In a way I was glad this was posted because, in my case it really shook me from my comfort zone, I knew this sort of stuff was happening but I wasn't quite up to date on the magnitude of the issue. Thanks for posting and sharing your opinions about this issue.

[XoL]

2012-03-06 23:03:28

Thank you for posting this, was great video I shared it to a few people as well :).

lilcmp1

2012-03-06 23:51:19

It really tugs on the heart strings. I've seen it a few places and I'm glad I hope more people watch it at least to be aware.

x[Warrior]x3500

2012-03-07 01:12:33

wow… this is really good. already shared it with people

Gucci

2012-03-07 01:24:09

This is amazing and eye opening I just watched it before coming here and saw someone posted about it

Jagex_Fagex

2012-03-07 09:36:32


shstiger2009

2012-03-07 09:50:11

From: Jagex_Fagex


I lol'd in the middle of class.

The video is touching, though.

weeps

2012-03-07 10:22:40

They might catch him but then another douchebag will take over. Humans <3

Gu3st...

2012-03-07 10:24:09

From: Jagex_Fagex
Well isn't that exactly the point of this "agenda"? To RAISE awareness?

the flea

2012-03-07 15:05:29

this is an interesting addition to the video. If you are going to watch the video I recommend you read this http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/

rice

2012-03-07 15:20:44

thanks for sharing this video. I showed it to my wife aswell

Kyle Undefined

2012-03-07 15:21:40

Will check this out after I get home from the office.

Overtime

2012-03-07 19:20:06

Really is great video. I stumbled upon it after 5 hours after being released.

When I first watched it, I knew it would be viral and everyone would jump on to it.

The point is to raise awareness. But everyone is bitching that only 30% of profits go to the organization while the rest goes to staff who's working on it. I see no problem with that.

Bam Bam

2012-03-07 20:43:51

From: Overtime
Really is great video. I stumbled upon it after 5 hours after being released.

When I first watched it, I knew it would be viral and everyone would jump on to it.

The point is to raise awareness. But everyone is bitching that only 30% of profits go to the organization while the rest goes to staff who's working on it. I see no problem with that.


Hopefully if they raise significantly more than expected they would share more than 30%

'Toxin

2012-03-07 20:52:04

I feel strongly against how every time something in the world is wrong, that America, or Canada(attempt) try their best to do nothing but make it better, yet end up wasting more government money, which means higher taxes. I'm against this… plus, some don't even know how long this is going on and only NOW they're raising awareness? Like wake up people.

uz3

2012-03-07 21:33:42

[QUOTE='Toxin;954190]I feel strongly against how every time something in the world is wrong, that America, or Canada(attempt) try their best to do nothing but make it better, yet end up wasting more government money, which means higher taxes. I'm against this… plus, some don't even know how long this is going on and only NOW they're raising awareness? Like wake up people.

So what you're saying is that we shouldn't even try to save kids even if it doesn't work? We should just sit back and just do nothing? The only way to bring about change is to actually do something. Not sitting in a fucking corner thinking, "Oh gawd, my money is at risk; there is no personal gain for me!" You really value money more than peoples' lives? Sad.

Rather raise awareness about something late than never.

Hobbit

2012-03-07 21:45:27

From: uz3
So what you're saying is that we shouldn't even try to save kids even if it doesn't work? We should just sit back and just do nothing? The only way to bring about change is to actually do something. Not sitting in a fucking corner thinking, "Oh gawd, my money is at risk; there is no personal gain for me!" You really value money more than peoples' lives? Sad.

Rather raise awareness about something late than never.


Do not attack other members. Keep this discussion civil or it will be ended.

Why judge him for that? Is it not the reason that the US did not intervene sooner over the last 26 years? They even admit it.

nickrules

2012-03-07 22:10:56

I had this in my signature before it was mainstream :p

But, on a more serious note, this article does a decent job of summing up most of the arguments for both sides.

plus, some don't even know how long this is going on and only NOW they're raising awareness? Like wake up people.

They've actually been working on it for several years now. I suppose it really just takes someone who knows about it, who has the will to do something about it, and a plan to get it done. But these are hard people to come by, which is likely part of why it took so long.

NotReligious

2012-03-08 03:32:31

Reading some of the youtube comments makes me so bloody angry…

Here are a few; "White people are only doing this so that they could claim that they helped the black people." …
"Yeah, teach us that black people are bad!" (wtf is up with that logic anyway)
"This is only propaganda!" … FOR WHAT? The USA could go to any African country where they are braking human rights any time they want just for this reason. They don't need this film, so it is pretty darn obvious that they just did not want to go untill people cared.


… Some people just see bad in everything. There were also some comments about this being a Jew / Freemason set up. .. This world that we live in could use a healthy dose of logic every now and then.


[QUOTE='Toxin;954190]I'm against this… plus, some don't even know how long this is going on and only NOW they're raising awareness? Like wake up people.

This has indeed been going on for a long time. And it was mentioned in documentaries, (which I have seen long before this film) and human rights movements kept talking about it. But virtually no one listened to these types of things.

As said in the video, sharing things in the internet can do wonders..

the flea

2012-03-08 07:04:45

the main problem is that many high ranking officials in the US army have admitted there is very little they can do to help.
How do you fight a war against an army of children? They can't command their soldiers to shoot at them can they? Think of what people would be saying if that was the case.

Flight

2012-03-08 07:20:17

From: the flea
the main problem is that many high ranking officials in the US army have admitted there is very little they can do to help.
How do you fight a war against an army of children? They can't command their soldiers to shoot at them can they? Think of what people would be saying if that was the case.


A good point. What we need here is some Michael Weston. :stirthepot:

NotReligious

2012-03-08 07:31:08

From: the flea
the main problem is that many high ranking officials in the US army have admitted there is very little they can do to help.
How do you fight a war against an army of children? They can't command their soldiers to shoot at them can they? Think of what people would be saying if that was the case.



They do shoot at them. And in this case I think it is understandable, I mean anyone who is pointing a gun at you is dangerous. Of course they try to get the children to surrender, but if the kids are really young or drugged they wont fear anything. Thus they will die. (and this is one of the reason children are used, they are easy to manipulate and there are always more of them)

As you said, it is not easy.

[Nathan]

2012-03-08 08:53:24

From: Bam Bam
Hopefully if they raise significantly more than expected they would share more than 30%

Do you really believe a charity with a history of fraud would? Raising more money just means more money in their pocketbooks…

vasse

2012-03-08 16:00:20

they only give 30% of their incomst to children in uganda and they works with the military in uganda this video is very fake

DeiJaiVui

2012-03-09 05:10:16

''American war machine propaganda plain and&#65279; fucking simple. There are thousands of Konys in South America, the Middle East and Africa. Anyone hear about the recent oil wells discovered in Uganda?

Yeah. This whole thing spread too fast, too far and too feverishly, like an epidemic of bullshit propaganda. Believe it if you want but it's just one persons view. I'd like to see Konys video, to hear Konys side of the story, before I legitimize an invasion or attempts to assassinate him.''

- Supaduck0

slushpuppy

2012-03-09 05:50:40

From: Overtime
Really is great video. I stumbled upon it after 5 hours after being released.

When I first watched it, I knew it would be viral and everyone would jump on to it.

The point is to raise awareness. But everyone is bitching that only 30% of profits go to the organization while the rest goes to staff who's working on it. I see no problem with that.


Giving money to the Ugandan government isn't going to change 1 bit at all. If a group of people are committed to really helping those kids, I rather they take the first step themselves and create a non profit organization based in Uganda rather than in the safety of their own homeland

Sin

2012-03-09 10:27:27

One does not simply depose a Ugandan Warlord by posting on a forum..

I'll post the meme later, at school atm.

P1nky

2012-03-09 13:37:23

Not going to lie, all my friends are starting to hype this up.

the flea

2012-03-09 18:16:53

Kony puts the infant in infantry ;)

I found this on youtube today thought some people might be interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdBcypx1DfE its an interview with Joseph Kony.

Sin

2012-03-09 18:19:48


And LOL @ Flea's comment

Silentcore

2012-03-09 18:25:52

I've shared that video a lot during the past week. Maybe jagex will get an idea from this and make a "bot nuke 2012" campaign. Lol.

Rubiyath

2012-03-09 22:21:37

This guy is just as worse as hitler and stallin.

Jagex_Fagex

2012-03-09 23:57:52

From: Overtime
Really is great video. I stumbled upon it after 5 hours after being released.

When I first watched it, I knew it would be viral and everyone would jump on to it.

The point is to raise awareness. But everyone is bitching that only 30% of profits go to the organization while the rest goes to staff who's working on it. I see no problem with that.


Let me break it down for you. Roughly 37% goes to directly helping the Ugandan kids. Of this 37%, about one third goes towards their Legacy Scholarship Program, which in itself is a good idea. However, this only helps 6 - 800 kids, explain how this is fair?

Of the remaining 63% of money made, around one half goes to "awareness programs". These are creating websites and full production videos, like the one linked in OP. What a waste of money… Spend a little less on video production(IIRC, it was something like $800, 000 spent last year on video's).

The remaining roughly 30% goes straight to the people running this organisation.

On the first day of the video posted, around 7,000,000 watched it. If even 1%(70,000) people donated the $15 a month they ask for, they are receiving $1,050,000 a month (They earnt around $11m last year, so this is quite feasible).

So that means that $388, 500 goes towards directly helping the ugandan kids.

Since around 1/3rd goes towards the Legacy program, that means $128, 205 goes towards helping 600-800 people. While $256, 410 goes towards the other tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of kids. Again, explain how this is fair?

Roughly $330, 750 is going into making websites, movies etc. This could seriously help more children. Why do they need such expensive movies and websites?

This then also means roughly about $330, 750 is going to the people who run Invisible Children.

NOTE: These are rough MONTHLY figures, now tell me who the good and bad guys are. Not to mention Kony left about 6 years ago.

I am not against the cause, but rather, i am against the means to the ends. Why spend so much money on other things, that could be directly helping the children.

PS. The government is corrupt and Africa has allowed itself to be like this. You remove Kony and another will just take his place. Also, how do you feel about the army of children being decimated by a real army trying to capture Kony. Is so many childrens deaths worth the capture of one mans?

EDIT: I just realised, the video is also now up to 60, 000, 000. This means more money every month to waste on videos and salaries.

lilcmp1

2012-03-10 01:20:33

From: Jagex_Fagex

I am not against the cause, but rather, i am against the means to the ends. Why spend so much money on other things, that could be directly helping the children.

PS. The government is corrupt and Africa has allowed itself to be like this. You remove Kony and another will just take his place. Also, how do you feel about the army of children being decimated by a real army trying to capture Kony. Is so many childrens deaths worth the capture of one mans?

EDIT: I just realised, the video is also now up to 60, 000, 000. This means more money every month to waste on videos and salaries.


Considering 1/3rd of their campaign is based around awareness it makes sense why 1/3rd of their budget is advertising. I agree that number seems high for advertising but they want to start with awareness. If people are not into a non profit organization that spends money on ads they simply shouldn't donate.

From their site
Invisible Children&#8217;s mission is to stop LRA violence and support the war-affected communities in East and Central Africa. These are the three ways we achieve this mission; each is essential:

1) Make the world aware of the LRA. This includes making documentary films and touring them around the world so that they are seen for free by millions of people.

2) Channel energy from viewers of IC films into large-scale advocacy campaigns to stop the LRA and protect civilians.

3) Operate programs on the ground in LRA-affected areas that provide protection, rehabilitation and development assistance.

As you will see, we spend roughly one third of our money on each of these three goals. This three-prong approach is what makes Invisible Children unique. Some organizations focus exclusively on documenting human rights abuses, some focus exclusively on international advocacy or awareness, and some focus exclusively on on-the-ground development. We do all three. At the same time. This comprehensive model is intentional and has proven to be very effective.

slushpuppy

2012-03-10 01:43:05

From: lilcmp1
Considering their whole campaign is based around awareness it makes sense why 1/3rd of their budget is advertising. I agree that number seems high for advertising but they want to start with awareness. If people are not into a non profit organization that spends money on ads they simply shouldn't donate.

From their site


1/3 of their money on each goals.. there are 3 goals;)

Toby1

2012-03-11 10:19:11

I have come to the conclusion that this is a complete fake/scam. Uganda own a lot of oil that the west want, the truth is Joseph Kony is innocent, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_W7hQVfkwA

n3ss3s

2012-03-13 22:27:11

If someone in the US Government started this whole Kony crap for getting people to support a war which in reality is for oil… That's some genius fucking politics. Pure genius. Kony will be "hiding in the mountains" and the U.S. will be pumping.

Jfalko

2012-03-14 21:38:33

The u.s has known about this for almost 12 years+ and hasn't done anything. But about 2 weeks ago they found a oil reserve, and now we are going to help? Damn our Gov. are some greedy bastards, i mean come on..

hemeny

2012-03-15 02:47:06

From: NotReligious
Reading some of the youtube comments makes me so bloody angry…


"This is only propaganda!" … FOR WHAT? The USA could go to any African country where they are braking human rights any time they want just for this reason. They don't need this film, so it is pretty darn obvious that they just did not want to go untill people cared.


This has indeed been going on for a long time. And it was mentioned in documentaries, (which I have seen long before this film) and human rights movements kept talking about it. But virtually no one listened to these types of things.

As said in the video, sharing things in the internet can do wonders..


you want another war ? why don't you sign up my friend, the americans cannot willy nilly go to war with any country they need permission from the U.N. (legally) of-course even if denied they can just go through N.A.T.O. which is a ridiculous cheat, the U.N. does absolutely nothing.

they go from Iraq to Afghanistan to Libya and now you want them in uganda ? there is NO NEED for military occupation when every news organization already Tell's you kony has fled from Uganda and his whereabouts are unknown.

this video is talking about UGANDA not AFRICA, learn the difference. btw SOUTH Africa is doing just fine and has no human rights violations that im aware of.

haven't watched the film because i don't care, why don't you go and donate to the charity that comes on every day asking for a dollar a day ? because your all little lemmings.

so follow follow little lemming, follow your friend over that cliff.

hello world

2012-03-15 03:01:46

in feb 2012 alot of oil was recently discovered in uganda. in 2006 kony fled uganda along with his army. tell me, who are we raising all this money to stop again?

JuKKa

2012-03-15 04:45:59

20 years ago they arranged peace with kony, and kony hasnt been active since. looks like to me they needed a "passport" to enter uganda.. for what? Oil perhaps?

'Toxin

2012-03-15 11:24:10

From: JuKKa
20 years ago they arranged peace with kony, and kony hasnt been active since. looks like to me they needed a "passport" to enter uganda.. for what? Oil perhaps?


Stupid american government will always be a stupid american government if you ask me.

n3ss3s

2012-03-15 16:39:15

From: JuKKa
20 years ago they arranged peace with kony, and kony hasnt been active since. looks like to me they needed a "passport" to enter uganda.. for what? Oil perhaps?


Like I said it's genius of them to make the whole thing a viral sensation…

eduardo230

2012-03-15 17:47:56

not intend to be against anybody believes, but im gonna try to see this issue a more critical way.
First of all im not giving any good or bad judgement. and all this is going to be from my point of view

the point of the whole video is to appeal to people feelings instead of their rational part.
this story of the friend is very convincing, although i dont have any proof.
how can a person that killed 30k people can be the number 1 on the list if thay are other people that kill even more families children. like narcotraffic especialy: Diego Beltran Leyva or the chapo guzman in mexico this narcotraffic organization have killed hundreds of K of people including kids. they also own the children prostitution and drugs bussiness in latinamerica. (im not trying to say he is a "good guy" or a saint, but im shure he is not the number one in the list (ora that he should not be the number 1)

The way i see the U.S. (not intended to attack any nation, but only the way i see histor) perform before a war is to give an excuse to attack people on other places. like the Irack war is being excuse with terrorist. i wouldn't be surprised if U.S. send an invation to Uganda soon to attack this guy. (only ex peculation)

the rumors of oil in Uganda. (not trying to state anything, only seeing the external factors)

the problems of extraction of that oil. ( LRA is being involucred in this also many other army groups)

they are also rumors that Kony is safe in the Congo and not in Uganda.

and the last thing, why do the U.S. army should be involve in this? why not Swiss army or the army of japan?

well i think that many armys should be involve in this not only Us. and have a country that can moderate the issue.

please be civilized and we can start a debate in this (not a fight of opinions) also if you think i have incorrect information or my opinions aren't stable enough please let me know
Btw if this is real im also srry for the kids, becouse in mexico we see many issues involving kids and i now how it feels





Edit: i had found this vide and if this persons is the real kony he seems really good person. but it can be aacted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_W7hQVfkwA

you can compare it with th e other video

the flea

2012-03-16 20:38:00

this is funny read this http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/kony-2012-filmmaker-arrested-san-diego-205649394.html

probably going to cause some trouble for this project

lilcmp1

2012-03-16 20:42:27

From: the flea
this is funny read this http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/kony-2012-filmmaker-arrested-san-diego-205649394.html

probably going to cause some trouble for this project


That is nuts lol. Thanks for sharing

I can't believe he would do that, jeopardizing all their work. What a fool. I hope he is ashamed.

Convex

2012-03-16 20:57:37

Don't donate to invisible children like 30% of the profits go to Kony2012 and 70% of the profits go to them, google it:p

lilcmp1

2012-03-16 21:11:48

From: Convex
Don't donate to invisible children like 30% of the profits go to Kony2012 and 70% of the profits go to them, google it:p


Well that's not the whole truth

http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/images/breakdownofexpenses.jpg

Roughly 16% goes to management. The rest is their programs.

kingarabian

2012-03-16 21:16:23

The director just got hospitalized for running around in his under-wear and screaming…

josh81193

2012-03-16 21:22:14

From: kingarabian
The director just got hospitalized for running around in his under-wear and screaming…


I thought he was arrested

kingsleyeng

2012-03-16 21:25:25

video is extremely exaggerated and fake

invisible children is a scam:only 35% of profits go to the search for him

his army is only 250 man strong
he is currently not in uganda

they are just trying to exploit ugandas resources

Zockuito

2012-03-17 01:32:23

He was probably tripping balls on something hahaha. I read that this morning. :O

x[Warrior]x3500

2012-03-17 01:41:42

dude my friend just showed me this vid. sooo funny :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7NRCkxivwo

Zockuito

2012-03-24 10:35:57

It turns out it was a big hoax. Kony hasn't been public for about 6 years.. He might be dead actually. I think we should focus on things like the sex slave trade.

TheWord

2012-03-27 02:15:31

[YOUTUBE]k1FKS1SHSsc[/YOUTUBE]

kingsleyeng

2012-03-27 03:20:01

kony is real
invisible children is a scam

MrWicked

2012-03-27 23:34:34

I like how the dude saying he would have kony in jail by the end of 2012, was put in jail a week later for rage quitting naked in the middle of the street lol..

What an epic fail.

Imanoobbot

2012-03-30 17:00:59

From: kingsleyeng
kony is real
invisible children is a scam


Thats true,
he is real and he is a reallistic problem. He might not be in uganda since 2003 or something like that i think. He went through lots of countries and he did lots of very very very bad things. He definietly has to get stopped but there are lots of problems beeing in my opinion more important. As Cannabis should be legalized… It is definietly not a drug and just kidding ;).

Imanoobbot

2012-03-30 17:12:35

I think it is very hard that we are in a point where to government lies and want to appear in our humanity to go over to africa and steal their recources. Kony is definietly what we call a Warlord and he will get stopped.


From: TheWord
[YOUTUBE]k1FKS1SHSsc[/YOUTUBE]


Really loving that video. Haha

Google

2012-03-30 18:55:52

Kony 2012 is a HUGE FRAUD just so we can stick our noses in, steal other countrys gold and make these nobody warlords with about 80 followers with only machine guns as huge nation security threats to the u.s. And we haven't seen him in over what like 8 years and hes in the jungle somewhere I mean cmon the guy is most likely dead already.

^ You should really research some of the crazy shit thats going on with our government recently, including some pretty illegal stuff obama is pulling and getting away with.

Toby1

2012-04-08 19:36:34

Agreed with GOOGLE, but I think there was already corruption in the government long before Obama came… I also noticed as soon as people started commenting things like "OIL,OIL,OIL!" "This is for oil!", they actually disabled posting comments on I think the majority of there videos. :/

Echo_

2012-04-11 21:10:14

Old but still funny


b_lone

2012-04-16 20:41:16

…everyone seems so surprised and shocked by this..like..it's never ever happened before…