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Dicing is an awsome way to gain Billion of dollars in one day but jagex remove the dice.
Many people think that we cannot dice anymore but it's false !

On this guide, i will show you the new method do dice :bart:

It's named IRC dicing.

1- Go to http://www.smokinelite.com/

2- Click on ''IRC Dicing'' button, in the top.

3- Enter your Runescape name on the case called ''nick''

4- Log into Runescape on world 2, and go on the clan chat named Smokin Mils

5- Trade the amount of money you want to dice to some1 with a rank.

6- Look at the chat ( IRC ) and when you will saw your name vs X, write ''!roll''
The bigger number won the wage.

- Also, they have their own evenement, Smokin Mils do a 500M+ drop party everyday :sasmokin:

I will add picture soon, :)

Dang… Smokin Mils… I thought they were long gone!

"Make billions of dollars in a day"

It's possible I guess… I've won 300m just before they took dicing away and I was banned from winallday… ;) lol

There is a reason why people want to take away dicing, its because they don't want gambling.

Most of people gamble just want to make some money with no skills at money making, and those people do have skills host these gambling even to take make money.

I remember my brother use to host in SwiftKit, but it's not the same. And many way more scammers out there.

From: P1nky
I remember my brother use to host in SwiftKit, but it's not the same. And many way more scammers out there.

Nearing the time they took it out, there were so many more scammers… it used to be legit if you could find a good one.

Will add picture soon, i got like 500m in like 5 hours ^^

From: alexx1156
Will add picture soon, i got like 500m in like 5 hours ^^

I used a roll predictor ;) from some website.

Oh man dicing… I remember botting like 5 accounts to make 10m and then dice it all away
over and over again.

From: Jokester
I used a roll predictor ;) from some website.

You're full of crap. There isn't an existing roll predictor. Unless you're trying to advertise your keylogger here?

Rolls can never be predicted.

From: illester
Oh man dicing… I remember botting like 5 accounts to make 10m and then dice it all away
over and over again.

This. Is why they took it out.

Trust trading is the most stupid thing you could do on rs. I cant believe people still do it not knowing the person they are "gambling" with…

From: Runescape Pro
Trust trading is the most stupid thing you could do on rs. I cant believe people still do it not knowing the person they are "gambling" with…

Nobody scam at dicing, people pay their rank 500m, why they would scam you, they keep 5% of the wage and they are happy.

i made 1b in once day from 14m dicing lol no lie

From: pown otto
i made 1b in once day from 14m dicing lol no lie

Seems legit.

I might actually try this, might be the easiest/fastest way to get cash for all buyables and gear o.O

From: shadowmarkus
You're full of crap. There isn't an existing roll predictor. Unless you're trying to advertise your keylogger here?

Rolls can never be predicted.

You sir are wrong there was a roll predictor dont be so rude next time

From: alexx1156
Nobody scam at dicing, people pay their rank 500m, why they would scam you, they keep 5% of the wage and they are happy.

I understand your first language isn't english but you are very naive. To say nobody scams while dicing is soooooo wrong.

@Everyone, don't trust anyone online.

90% are scammers the other 10% are legit until a big enough scam comes along.

From: shadowmarkus
You're full of crap. There isn't an existing roll predictor. Unless you're trying to advertise your keylogger here?

Rolls can never be predicted.

It was all based on probability. And it didn't give me the exact number. It told me whether the next roll would be high or low. And it was right 90% of the time at least.

From: Jokester
It was all based on probability. And it didn't give me the exact number. It told me whether the next roll would be high or low. And it was right 90% of the time at least.

I'm going to guess that it was using previous roll numbers to try and predict a low or high?
Sure this seems good in a perfect probability world, this issue is that the probability of a low/high roll resets itself every single time you roll, the dice is not working towards some ultimate goal of a perfect 50 average after a years worth of rolling, no it is a completely new Random(100) every time.
I'm going to agree with Markus, there is absolutely no way of predicting a roll with even the slightest of legitimate accuracy (as in not based on circumstantial luck that is worked).

This is assuming I'm not totally wrong about how the predictor works?

~Caotom

From: Caotom
I'm going to guess that it was using previous roll numbers to try and predict a low or high?
Sure this seems good in a perfect probability world, this issue is that the probability of a low/high roll resets itself every single time you roll, the dice is not working towards some ultimate goal of a perfect 50 average after a years worth of rolling, no it is a completely new Random(100) every time.
I'm going to agree with Markus, there is absolutely no way of predicting a roll with even the slightest of legitimate accuracy (as in not based on circumstantial luck that is worked).

This is assuming I'm not totally wrong about how the predictor works?

~Caotom

Yeah that's how it worked. And it worked 90% of the time. So there were either a huge number of coincedences or it was real.

If you dice and you are not the host you will always lose in the long run. Just saying.

From: Forward Then Backward
You sir are wrong there was a roll predictor dont be so rude next time

There might have been a program called a roll predictor, but it can't predict rolls. It can steal your bank though. So my rudeness was in place.

From: shadowmarkus
There might have been a program called a roll predictor, but it can't predict rolls. It can steal your bank though. So my rudeness was in place.

The issue with Random computer numbers is, they're not at all random. They are based off a seed, which in the end, does create patterns. It is entirely possibly to look at past rolls and 'predict' future ones. Depending how the rolling software was created determines how well the predictor works.

From: Jagex_Fagex
The issue with Random computer numbers is, they're not at all random. They are based off a seed, which in the end, does create patterns. It is entirely possibly to look at past rolls and 'predict' future ones. Depending how the rolling software was created determines how well the predictor works.

The seed is usually computer clock I think. You would need to have a pretty damn good timing to predict anything. Actually would probably be impossible because of ping and 600ms gameticks.

Edit: Forget about the gameticks. Forgot they removed dice from the game :D

Been dicing since it was out on irc :/

http://dragondyce.com/ircdice.html
^makes it easier for noobs w/o irc knowledge.
Hope I helped!

From: Runescape Pro
To say nobody scams while dicing is soooooo wrong.

You just need to know how to dice and everything going to be ok. Some people dice 1b and don't get scammed. So I dice with these host, they don't care about my little 100m, if they want to scam, they will scam the dude that risk 1b + lol.
Anyway, to be an IRC host and able to dice over 1B, the rank cost like 5B lol.

I bought a rank in #first and I never saw some1 be scammed.:spongebob:

I don't get why anyone would want to dice.

Guarenteed to lose money long-term, possible chance of being scammed, wasts your time.

Hmmm

They can rig IRC dicing all the time, got scammed so many times.

IRC Dicing is a scam.

But anyway, i got so freaky cash with this, i will post soon tip to not get cleaned and log of my profit, it's so amazing. ! I don't think I already got scammed, it's just so amazing.

From: alexx1156
But anyway, i got so freaky cash with this, i will post soon tip to not get cleaned and log of my profit, it's so amazing. ! I don't think I already got scammed, it's just so amazing.

I could go to an IRC dice clan and post 100s of loses in a row. Trust me, it's not worth it.

From: DeiJaiVui
I could go to an IRC dice clan and post 100s of loses in a row. Trust me, it's not worth it.

This is why I only do dragon dicing, 50% chance to win.

"Random" doesn't exist and that there is a cause and effect behind everything from computer dicing or real dice, you'll see random isn't really random, it's pseudorandom.

If jagex' roll algorithm was, say, based on seed number and modified by clock time like many pseudorandom number generators are and the algorithm was figured out from a ton of roll data and correlations, it could be completely possible to predict future numbers, though probably hard as hell. That would be badass to figure the algorithm, free moneyz.

From: phrenism
"Random" doesn't exist

That is not correct. The breakup of atoms is, as we know at the moment, completely random and not predictable at all. Nevertheless, I don't think jagex uses such sources to generate real "randomness" only for few games, but rather they use pseudorandomess (as you said).

If they don't use real randomness (atoms), there is a chance to predict the numbers.

Don't you cuties worry about predicting dice rolls.

Problem #1 - (Atleast at Dragon Dyce) the random generator is re-instantiated for each roll. Means you won't be predicting shit.

Problem #2 - Dice rolls are generated (whether it's dice dueling or 60x2) by a function of the nextInt(n) type, where n is the exclusive maximum generated number. This approach destroys data and it is not a feasible approach to trace these values back to the original seed.

Have a nice day pseudorandom doomsayers.

They can rig IRC dicing all the time, got scammed so many times.

IRC Dicing is a scam.

No. The only occasion of rigging have been some clans adjusting the system so that the betters stay pretty much even as far as betting goes, generating more commission to the clan.

as n3ss pointed out, roll prediction doesnt exist (unlike keyloggers). There is no way for u to gain any advantage if u r not the host.
And no, previous events dont influence future outcomes, having 10 heads in a row has no implication on whether the next toss is head or tail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomness).

Even if we assume that the host/middleman is not going to scam, you will still be losing in the long term (eg. when its 55x2, or 5% commission fee), while also wasting precious time. Gambling is a zero-sum game: if u are winning, some1 will be losing (and no host will continue to be hosts if they keep losing money, so the loser is definitely u).

Gambling is not and never a good money making method (more like the best money losing method). The only time u shd gamble is when the opportunity cost is 0. Eg. when u have 5mil, and this 5mil cannot buy anything you want, and that u will not accumulate any additional wealth any time soon, and that 10mil can buy something that you want, hence having 5mil/0mil will not make any difference (once again, assume that u cant do anything with 5mil), but having 10mil will allow u to buy something (like a fury) that u need.

And lol @ "Billion of dollars in one day", why i couldnt find u here?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_billionaires_(2011)

i wouldnt dice in rs why would i do it outside? its just a pyramid scam

From: wister1
i wouldnt dice in rs why would i do it outside? its just a pyramid scam

I don't think you know what a pyramid scam is.

From: wister1
i wouldnt dice in rs why would i do it outside? its just a pyramid scam

It's the second time in my entire life I've heard someone call gambling a pyramid scam (and sadly it was on these forums both times), please look it up…

From: n3ss3s
Don't you cuties worry about predicting dice rolls.

Problem #1 - (Atleast at Dragon Dyce) the random generator is re-instantiated for each roll. Means you won't be predicting shit.

Problem #2 - Dice rolls are generated (whether it's dice dueling or 60x2) by a function of the nextInt(n) type, where n is the exclusive maximum generated number. This approach destroys data and it is not a feasible approach to trace these values back to the original seed.

Have a nice day pseudorandom doomsayers.



No. The only occasion of rigging have been some clans adjusting the system so that the betters stay pretty much even as far as betting goes, generating more commission to the clan.

+1, i have NEVER been scammed, it's the best way to do money if you KNOW how to dice, i bought a full torva in 1 day of dicing ( 20 hours, was a little no-life ^^ ) and i started with 10m …

From: alexx1156
+1, i have NEVER been scammed, it's the best way to do money if you KNOW how to dice, i bought a full torva in 1 day of dicing ( 20 hours, was a little no-life ^^ ) and i started with 10m …

Pics or didnt happen.

From: RightClick
+1, i have NEVER been scammed, it's the best way to do money if you KNOW how to dice, i bought a full torva in 1 day of dicing ( 20 hours, was a little no-life ^^ ) and i started with 10m …

There's no "right" way to dice. You lose longterm everytime.

If you're so good, go hit up roulette at the casino, you have even more equity on each roll too. Tell us how it turns out.

Smokin elite hosts are legit… tbh i wouldn't want to risk my cash but it would be great to have a rank cause those hosts make bucketloads.

From: Cerylin
Smokin elite hosts are legit… tbh i wouldn't want to risk my cash but it would be great to have a rank cause those hosts make bucketloads.

You have to pay billions to get a rank though don't you?

See the trick is to only bet 1-5m every time. So if you lose then no big deal. Surely you can come out on top and end up making at least a few mills in an hour, which is better money then botting.

Smokin mills is legit, i've made around 5m in like 10 minutes today. Also lost 4m straight at first though before i decided to bet a few more mills and take the chance.

From: shadowmarkus
Rolls can never be predicted.

not so… generally speaking most system use pseudo random number generator, which by definition is NOT random

if you want random, there is a good source of true random numbers that i like to use - it's based off the background cosmic radiation and you can get some true randoms from random.org

but on computer? nope, the random generators are sometimes way too predictable, depending on complexity of implementation

since we all deal with pascal script - here is an extensive analysis on pseudo random number generator as used by borland in their pascal based products from while back http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pas-rand.htm

From: Caotom
I'm going to guess that it was using previous roll numbers to try and predict a low or high?
Sure this seems good in a perfect probability world, this issue is that the probability of a low/high roll resets itself every single time you roll, the dice is not working towards some ultimate goal of a perfect 50 average after a years worth of rolling, no it is a completely new Random(100) every time.
I'm going to agree with Markus, there is absolutely no way of predicting a roll with even the slightest of legitimate accuracy (as in not based on circumstantial luck that is worked).

This is assuming I'm not totally wrong about how the predictor works?

~Caotom

Everything will eventually form a pattern, and rolls, with a large enough database, are semi-predictable. the way that the roll system works, is a RNG (Random Number Generator) and to this day the only truly random RNG i've ever seen was based on using a webcam pointed at a lava lamp, and using the camera, and the position of the fluids inside, to create a number.

IRC rolls, are predictable to an extent. it may take millions, if not billions of rolls to begin to find the pattern, but eventually, a pattern will be found in things.