SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

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Hello everyone, this topic is my topic where I express my theories of life, human behavior, free will, other random things I thought of over time. What I want you to do is discuss it, tell me what you think what is your opinion to the topic of your choice. When replying just tell me which (Numbered topic) you are discussing. Example

 #5, I hate your idea but I think it should be like this ...

The way this is organized is: Topic Bold and Green
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Background:
I am a christian male, my theories revolve around God/Jesus as I do believe and I do think he is the way etc. But.. you will see.

Note: These are all my ideas and please respect them, don't go around claiming they are yours etc.

Lets begin…
#1 Creationistic Evolution Theory
All throughout life all we hear "God created the world, and everything in it in 7 days" then the other argument "Everyone evolved from monkeys we are an ever improving species".

My Theory: According to the bible, God created the sun. According to science we base OUR time off the sun, now what does God base his time off of?

Read it again, take it in

Key: This symbol means Millions of years in between *M*

God creates light in all its essence, then the heavens etc. *M* Now we have the world that is submerged in water so God separates it (It has been proven the world was at one point submerged). *M* He then has Pangaea through him bringing it up with earthquakes etc. Plant life starts to grow due to perfect conditions for life *M* microorganisms begin to fester in the oceans.*M* These microorganisms EVOLVE into beasts such as the birds of the sky, fish of the sea, beasts of the earth. *M* Dinosaurs were created and killed in this period of time, finally *M*'s of *M*'s of years later humanoids are in existence through perfection of evolution. *M* Humans BAM. Now you may be wondering, what next? Well this is where I think we are heading towards plato's idea's of perfected forms the idea of something cannot be perfect like it is in your head but it will always strive towards it (Evolution in its glory).

Now you may be thinking …I think random is a little crazy, don't worry I know it has flaws but I figure this is the best way for myself to make everything fit logically.

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#2 Free will VS determinism

I will try to make this one short.

Free will does not exist, it is a myth. EVERYTHING we do is determined prior to actually doing it.

Determinism is false, as everything we do is our OWN thoughts and ideas.

Compatibilist is the thought that it is all determinism unless the action was an authentic action then it is free will.

I am a compatibilist but sometimes I have a hard time believing if it was authentic or influenced such as a parent who beats their child the child would also turn into a parent who beats or a parent who does not beat based on what their parents influenced them with. Is that authentic?

Reserve

2. I grew up as an abused child. I will forever have resentment towards my stepfather physical and mental abuse he has done to my mother, my siblings growing up, and myself. For that horrid experience growing I refuse to lay a hand on my wife and my children. Because of the experience, I am determined to give my children a better life than I was able to get. All in all, I believe its more influence than authentic.

#2

First off, I respect your views on life and I do have respect for you that you are open-minded enough to have other people discuss your life views.

However I'm not exactly sure of the message you want to convey with #2, but I think it's like what I'm going to type, so please correct me if I'm taking this the wrong route. My belief is that everyone has the possibility to make their own choices of what they want to do, when they want to do it. In my opinion there are three kinds of actions, actions which are based on social conditioning, actions to fullfill the needs and desires of the ego and the actions that arise out of your inner self, what you really want to do.

Everybody grows up with some sort of 'social conditioning'. Social conditioning is that we have learned from a very early age from everyone around us to act a certain way in certain situations. Like you are (probably) socially conditioned to believe in God I'm socially conditioned not to believe in God. I suppose you can call these actions pre-determined. My believe is however that you can look beyond this social conditioning, it's how open to other views you are and how strong your ability is to see the social mechanics of this world in action. When you have freed yourself from the bulk of the social conditioning (not everything ofcourse, you also get alot of good things from it) you can start becoming authentic in your actions. If you do follow social conditioning I think most of your actions are determinend

Also, I've got some questions out of curiousity. Do you just believe that there's a God or do you can 'feel' God, and does it make you feel good and without much worries?

As English is not my native language I do have some trouble formulating want I want to say, but I hope you can understand it :)

This with free will and how we human evolved/was created is something ive thought on too for awhile. First off I can say that I live in a society where christianity is the religion who is the major one and im a 16 y/o male. I think we all came from monkeys, theres proof of this and it kinda makes sense, species evolve and monkeys are our ancestors. However I do believe in god, not as something that brings us to heaven or hell when we die but as something that is inside us. He can hear us and answer us, not directly and not with ''signs'' or something like that but you can feel it sometimes.

With free will and opinions I think the envoirment that we live and are raised in have a HUGE impact on us both how we think and act. I think the human have free will, nothing will stop us from doing things that will chock other and even ourself, its happening everyday. All kinds of animals do have instincts and react without really thinking in certain situations, so does humans. We dont have to be threatend and it could mean life but just a question or a word could invoke a feeling that will make us act without we mean it, lets say this 'feeling' initiating a action or move we do and we do with our free will follow up and make a choice according to what we think is right.

#2 Free will VS determinism

There is also a spin off that all of this 'knowledge' of the dictated events can not be known by humans because we are limited to seeing the past even though the future is readily available. I envoy reading these kinds of things just for the sake of it. :)

PS- I actually am a Catholic even though I really find this all extremely interesting