SRL Archive - News and General

news update about autoers being banned.. i laughed cuz i was just autoing when my player switched and said RS has been updated.. i read the news.. laughed even harder because i was autoing like they posted it :rolleyes: here is the news announcement(sp?) if you are lazy..

From: stupid jackex..
20 April 2006 - Rune Essence adjustment Today we have made an adjustment to rune essence mining due to players breaking rule 7 and rule 12, using macros to mine the rune essence and then selling it. As you are probably aware we have various systems in place to detect people breaking rule 7 and ban them. These systems work very effectively at detecting people breaking this rule, and make macroing a really bad way to try and train a high level character.
The problem we are now solving is not a problem with our macro detection systems which are still working well, but rather a problem with banning being an ineffective punishment against abusers who only use very low level accounts, and who have no intention of ever playing the game properly.
Over the last few weeks we have banned literally hundreds of accounts a day for macroing at the rune essence mine. However the bans were ineffective as the abusers could just create more low level accounts that they didn't care about to mine more. We also track trades so we can ban the recipiant of the illegally obtained items, but the abusers in this case were swapping the runes for gp, and then selling the gp for real world money on auction sites. Of course the person buying the gp for real world money gets banned, because we track the money they received in an unbalanced trade to a macro account, but the seller doesn't care that their customers get banned shortly after, as they have their real world money by then.
The fundamental problem is that rune essence was one of the few areas of the game which could be used to generate a reasonable amount of RuneScape money on a 'throwaway' low level free account. Normally to earn large amounts of money quickly you need to level up an account first, and then of course you care if it gets banned so our normal deterrant is effective.
We have therefore split rune essence to have 2 grades. Normal essence can only be used to make the six basic runes, whereas pure essence can be used to make any rune. You can mine both types of essence at the same place as before. The kind of essence you receive is automatically decided when you mine the rock. You will always get pure essence only if your mining is over 30 and you are on a members' world, otherwise you will get normal essence.
As a one-off event whilst we introduce this, existing essence in your bank and inventory will have been automatically converted to pure essence if you are a member or have other members-only items in your bank.
Since free players can only craft the six basic runes anyway, the normal essence is just as good for its intended purpose of letting free players do low level rune crafting. However it is not so useful for selling to members who want to make law and nature runes (who we believe buy the vast majority of rune essence in Runescape) which should reduce its price significantly and make it a much less appealing proposition for real world traders.
The only people who should be significantly affected by this are players mining very large amounts of essence on free accounts purely to sell to members. There are better way of making money on high level free accounts anyway, so this change should only really affect players trying to making large amounts of money on a low level free account - which is of course the exact idea.
We would also like to yet again remind our players NOT to break rule 12 and be tempted to buy RuneScape gold for real world money. Nearly all the gold being offered for sale in this way was generated by cheating on 'throwaway' accounts. If you buy it not only are you encouraging further cheating, but you run the very real risk of being banned yourself as the money you receive is dirty money and will be tracked. Again we have banned countless players for breaking rule 12 and fuelling this problem, and will continue to do so.
We hope most players will agree we shouldn't let rule breakers spoil this game, and we are determined to not let them do so. As well as banning, where necessary we will also make minimal changes to the game to make rule breaking unviable.

lol yep so was i (useing our fight cave one) =p lol

our macro detection systems which are still working well

my ass lol

From: JiveTonto@Gmail.com
my ass lol

gross!!.. but true xD

meany i thought we were TEAM! but hey…….

aww man…I sold 12k ess the other day…I could have sold pure ess for like…..2 times more…DAMN

aww lol there goes the essminer….

I just bought 77k pure ess.

<3 Jagex.

Now Aryan users are going to cry :)

Sorry if this has effected any of you.

hasnt affected me a bit.. i merchant feathers.. so yeah good profit for me and they really cant do much about it :D besides ban me but.. cheaters always prevail.. plus i only auto like one night out of every 5 nights.. ess sucks

i dont auto for cash i do it for fun =)

Ha. They are literally destorying Runescape with all these updates ;)

hmm how much is Pure Ess going for now lol I have 100k pure ess on my main :cool:

From: Dankness
hmm how much is Pure Ess going for now lol I have 100k pure ess on my main :cool:

Lol yeah, 77k here. :p

5k here =( can you guys give me some lol, i'd like to craft some nats formaself =(

Fuck. This dosen't just affect aryan users.

JayGex just fucked themselves over either way.

This hurts runescape's already crap econemy even more. :*( I just sold 10kk laws for 300 ea, now their price is gonna skyrocket to atleast 500 ea.

Anyways, it doesnt matter what you think, autoers kept the econemy alive by keeping prices somewhat reachable. If no one ever auted, prices for basic things would be 3x higher then they are.

let's mine 1mil of pure ess and sell for 10 ea xD

They can auto Iron or something 100 each still hé :d

JayGex stabbed themselves in the foot and lit there house on fire. Now there trying to get out. Will they get out in time? Stay tuned for episode 2!

yep with all these new radoms and sgit there adding to stop us the game is getting to over crouded with shit now

I always wonder what updates like this will really do to the economy.

If you think about it, there are only a couple of ways for money to enter the economy. One is to sell something to a shop or the general store. Another is to use high/low alch. The third is to get gold drops from mobs (item drops don't ADD money to the game, they just help money move around). And a minor amount from quests, etc.

Autoers adding millions of rune essence to the game enable alching to take place. I think alching is by far the largest source of money in the game, so this could really crush the economy. After all, if natures cost 1k each, the number of items you can alch and make money on drops significantly. Instead of making money on an 11k rune medium, you'd be losing money. So now the cost of a rune med has to drop for people to want to buy it. Instead of buying steel plates for 900 each and breaking even, you'd have to buy for 200 each. This just kills the demand for items like this. It also makes grinding out smithing levels much harder, since you'll be losing MUCH more money per xp gained if you now high alch the stuff you make.

At the same time, autoers won't have money to buy large quantities of ores, logs, whatever, so the prices of those will probably drop. So, if you're a non-autoer player doing anything BUT mining essence, this will be bad for you. The only people that this would actually benefit are people mining essence legit. It hurts everyone else, even if you've never mined essence before.

If the cost of essence goes up significantly, this is really going to suck for the game as a whole.

Yowza! Personally, I think that they are taking this way too far. Beyond the limits! However, we must respect Jackex for they are the ones who made this MMORPG for us to enjoy autoing on. If it weren't for RS, I wouldn't have had any intentions for learning Pascal/SCAR. I can see the Aryan users being pissed off on these updates, though. Oh well, they should've seen it coming. Bravo Jackex! Well played.

From: Kernel Klink
Yowza! Personally, I think that they are taking this way too far. Beyond the limits! However, we must respect Jackex for they are the ones who made this MMORPG for us to enjoy autoing on. If it weren't for RS, I wouldn't have had any intentions for learning Pascal/SCAR. I can see the Aryan users being pissed off on these updates, though. Oh well, they should've seen it coming. Bravo Jackex! Well played.

Sometimes I wonder who's side your on :p …

I for one am taking the train my pure while you wait for economy to stablize route..

Go Jaxeg! I feel that they need to step back and look at the bigger picture of the game, and not just focus on cheaters. But I think this is a step in the right direction if they want to salvage their game. Next they have to refine there random and update their JDK and I will write them a letter of appreciation.

note* I am in no way anti-cheat, although I myself do not cheat. I simple think that cheating has gotten out of hand, there need to be some responsiblity in the actions of "cheaters".

you know what… im on jackexs side on this one
…. i hate bots and i hate the bot makers… they ruin everything for the scar autoers rofl without them… we wouldnt have this problem would we…

From: Mutant Squirrle
you know what… im on jackexs side on this one
…. i hate bots and i hate the bot makers… they ruin everything for the scar autoers rofl without them… we wouldnt have this problem would we…

Glad you have seen the light :)

From: c0de
i dont auto for cash i do it for fun =)

A true autoer <3

I make scripts for fun. I rarely sign onto the client to make my scripts.

I quit playing rs since months ago. I just sign on to get coords or auto scripts. :p

those ******* bstrds … i just mine like 12k esence

It's clear from the rampant inflation that something had to be done.

When I started playing about 6 months ago coal was 120 and steel bars were 500. Now they're 200+ and 600+.

As they continue fighting autoers, the only way to make money is through drudgery. You can't make money from smithing, because the ores cost too much. If steel costs 600, a steel plate body would cost 3000 to make. You can buy it cheaper than that from a shop. And high alch is 900? It's just a joke.

Same for Rune. Even if you got to 99 smithing, you would make very little money. Ore costs 10k+ each, plus 1.6k worth of coal. Then you sell a scimitar for 25k and make a whopping 2k on the whole deal. And you have to stand on the corner and play salesman for hours or days to try to sell large numbers of them.

Now, if you want to do the drudgery of hiking out to mine the stuff, then you can make money. If you want to go through the drudgery of standing in Varrock or Edgeville and selling them one by one, you can make money. If you want to walk back and forth and back and forth and back and forth to a rune shrine, you can make money.

Jagex needs to try to curb the monotony in the game at the same time that they crack down on autoers. Autoers are a symptom of the drudgery problem.

One big first step would be to re-balance the high/low alch amounts to better reflect the cost of materials. If a Nature rune costs 300, you're not going to waste it high alching scimitars or shields, or axes, etc. The only way to get 'bang for your buck' is to alch pl8 bodies, and then only steel or higher. Yes, I know I'm rambling. :)

I agree. The ecomony is getting a bit messed up, and being a cheater seems to be the best way nowadays.

From: tarajunky
It's clear from the rampant inflation that something had to be done.

When I started playing about 6 months ago coal was 120 and steel bars were 500. Now they're 200+ and 600+.

As they continue fighting autoers, the only way to make money is through drudgery. You can't make money from smithing, because the ores cost too much. If steel costs 600, a steel plate body would cost 3000 to make. You can buy it cheaper than that from a shop. And high alch is 900? It's just a joke.

Same for Rune. Even if you got to 99 smithing, you would make very little money. Ore costs 10k+ each, plus 1.6k worth of coal. Then you sell a scimitar for 25k and make a whopping 2k on the whole deal. And you have to stand on the corner and play salesman for hours or days to try to sell large numbers of them.

Now, if you want to do the drudgery of hiking out to mine the stuff, then you can make money. If you want to go through the drudgery of standing in Varrock or Edgeville and selling them one by one, you can make money. If you want to walk back and forth and back and forth and back and forth to a rune shrine, you can make money.

Jagex needs to try to curb the monotony in the game at the same time that they crack down on autoers. Autoers are a symptom of the drudgery problem.

One big first step would be to re-balance the high/low alch amounts to better reflect the cost of materials. If a Nature rune costs 300, you're not going to waste it high alching scimitars or shields, or axes, etc. The only way to get 'bang for your buck' is to alch pl8 bodies, and then only steel or higher. Yes, I know I'm rambling. :)

You ramble wisley :)

yeah the only good way to make money is to auto though otherwise u end up wanting to kill urself cuz ur bored out of ur mind the only person i know who is legitly rich… is a pot head… who gets high and sits there all night rofl

From: Mutant Squirrle
yeah the only good way to make money is to auto though otherwise u end up wanting to kill urself cuz ur bored out of ur mind the only person i know who is legitly rich… is a pot head… who gets high and sits there all night rofl

Ownt irl…

Haha, Mutant..

Isn't today 4/20?? Hehe:p
Just a coincidence.

I havent' been around much lately. I have been busy playing legilty on my main!:D

Anyways, I'm looking into finishing my script some time soon…:rolleyes:

From: Cheesehunk
Haha, Mutant..

Isn't today 4/20?? Hehe:p
Just a coincidence.

I havent' been around much lately. I have been busy playing legilty on my main!:D

Anyways, I'm looking into finishing my script some time soon…:rolleyes:

I've been too busy owning on my pure, which will be updated soon :)

Anyone seen starblaster since the ess update?

i seen him sign in once or twice on msn.. but havent talked to him

From: tarajunky
I always wonder what updates like this will really do to the economy.

If you think about it, there are only a couple of ways for money to enter the economy. One is to sell something to a shop or the general store. Another is to use high/low alch. The third is to get gold drops from mobs (item drops don't ADD money to the game, they just help money move around). And a minor amount from quests, etc.

Autoers adding millions of rune essence to the game enable alching to take place. I think alching is by far the largest source of money in the game, so this could really crush the economy. After all, if natures cost 1k each, the number of items you can alch and make money on drops significantly. Instead of making money on an 11k rune medium, you'd be losing money. So now the cost of a rune med has to drop for people to want to buy it. Instead of buying steel plates for 900 each and breaking even, you'd have to buy for 200 each. This just kills the demand for items like this. It also makes grinding out smithing levels much harder, since you'll be losing MUCH more money per xp gained if you now high alch the stuff you make.

At the same time, autoers won't have money to buy large quantities of ores, logs, whatever, so the prices of those will probably drop. So, if you're a non-autoer player doing anything BUT mining essence, this will be bad for you. The only people that this would actually benefit are people mining essence legit. It hurts everyone else, even if you've never mined essence before.

If the cost of essence goes up significantly, this is really going to suck for the game as a whole.

Soon there won't be enough ess for nat makers thus not enough nats to go around, thus more people waiting at mage guild for precious nats thus jagex increasing rune prices to meet player demands thus alching being utterly worthless(I mean common, with 300 per nat you only make 68gp per alch of a yew longbow), thus thousands of angry mages complaining about it.

Either way magic is screwed and Gayex is screwed because I know *ALOT* of people that alch. Gayex will be forced to change it yet again, alowing autoers to still get a profit and still some angry mages.

Win win for us.

im glad jagecks did this. I agree that autoing was getting way outta control. Just the other day I seen a dude with over 2 mil ess wanting to sell it in edge bank.

From: ruler
Anyone seen starblaster since the ess update?

hi im here, i've been on holiday for 10 days and i've just come back a few hours ago :)

Skiing is great!

and my ess miner is still working good :)

Arg, I hate you Star! I wanted to go Ski-ing. :p Can't believe you left without me in your suitcase.

I ski-board, skiing is for fags, so is snow boarding, ski-boarding is the only true way to go on teh snow.

lol am i a noob?

hey i want one of those p0wr minres to gert coal i wanna be cool like yodu poe;lpe!

gay stats in my sig! will not work! :mad:

@hy71194, why would you bump a post thats almost a year old??? and there are few reasons your stats arent working, and im sure one of these is the reason. have you even signed up at SRL stats? and have you even autoed with a script that has stats in it?

From: ReFLeX
im glad jagecks did this. I agree that autoing was getting way outta control. Just the other day I seen a dude with over 2 mil ess wanting to sell it in edge bank.

2 mill isnt much, i saw a level 6 reg clothes crap name and he was saying:

"Selling 392 mill ess, 30 ea!"

I was like FTW?

why are you guys bumping postS?? thats spamming:fiery:

From: legendaryhero90
why are you guys bumping postS?? thats spamming:fiery:

lol exactly what i said. this thread is almost a year old….

Grave digging ftl.
But hey Pure ess didnt turn out so bad

PROGGY!
Rune Essence Mined and Banked:1960.
Worked for 5 Hours, 33 Minutes and 24 Seconds

Flawless script i wud say thanx alot :)

From: Myzilla
PROGGY!
Rune Essence Mined and Banked:1960.
Worked for 5 Hours, 33 Minutes and 24 Seconds

Flawless script i wud say thanx alot :)

Ok somebody bumped this once. He got flamed (sorta). And then you do it again. You on crack or something?

Must be the start of a tradition or something :p

Maybe, should we flame him in Tradition again?

hah i remember this change. the funny thing is, at the time i was one of the people using aryan, abusing the ess lolz.

From: markus
Maybe, should we flame him in Tradition again?

Sounds like the right thing to do, don't you think?

Brings out the flamethrower.

From: Myzilla
PROGGY!
Rune Essence Mined and Banked:1960.
Worked for 5 Hours, 33 Minutes and 24 Seconds

Flawless script i wud say thanx alot :)

What the hell? bumping a year old thread? And this topic isn't even for the script - post progress reports in the actual thread, please.