SRL Archive - Senior News and General

[RANT] Sins and footballjds' Attitude


Kyle Undefined

2012-02-07 18:07:25

Sin:
Has anyone else noticed how much his attitude has changed since he got SRL Members? I never remember him being like this before, and the change has been recent. He was actually helpful and had good posts/threads, now, it's just a bunch of BS and trolling.

It really shows his immaturity, to me at least. He answers posts with that stupid trollface image, and it's irritating. He is acting as if the rules don't apply to him. He gives a "fuck you" attitude if you question anything about him.

Yes, he makes scripts but that doesn't mean he's above everyone else who doesn't. Becoming a Member means you earned the respect to be one, and proven yourself worthy. How many of you would of voted "Yes" on his app if he had the posts he's making now? I know I would of voted "No" if I knew this was going to happen.

EDIT: He seems bipolar at times too.

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footballjds:
His attitude towards new members or those asking for help is getting out of hand. I think some of you know may know of the latest example (http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74358), and yes, PatDuffy was not in the right either.

However, Pat hardly does it and is generally a nice/helpful person. He, on the other hand, hardly helps and just trolls everyone for no reason and seems to do it at every chance he gets. Almost every post I see is either a flame/attack, and the ones that aren't, are full of "<3"s to either Dynamite or Tickky (But those are another discussion).

He posts huge amounts of the :duh: smilies, often times taking up a whole line. He seems very bipolar from what I've seen of him, one minute he's fine and the next it's full on attack. He also gives me the feeling that he thinks he is above the rules, and can do whatever he wants.

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I guess what I'm ranting about is, do we really want people who constantly troll/flame/attack to be Members who represent SRL? All it takes is one post, and someone will judge the whole flock as assholes because of that one person. I know I wouldn't want to be judged as an asshole because of something someone else did.

Having a colored name other than green does not make you better than anyone else, it simply means you are a solid member of this community. Shouldn't we, as members of this great community, continue to welcome anyone who decides to join? We are looked up to by those who are new or need help, we should be setting an example as to who we are and what kind of people SRL is made up of. Not trolling/flaming/attacking the new members.

I am not saying that I haven't had my share of snaps and attacks, as I know I have. It's really annoying when you're doing something for someone, for free mind you, and they flame/attack because something isn't working quite right or they're too lazy to search for the answer.

I'm trying really hard to keep my attitude on the uppity up, and trying to be more understanding of someone who is new here. Everyone snaps every now and then, especially when having a bad day.

I posted this here so there wouldn't be a drama war started in the Members section. I don't hate/dislike either one of them, but their attitude is getting annoying.

cause

2012-02-07 19:12:14

Agree 100%, just started noticing S1N's attitude within the past couple days…kinda rotten. As well as I infracted footballjds for swearing the other day and his response was basically "can't stop me".

Kyle Undefined

2012-02-07 19:16:42

From: cause
As well as I infracted footballjds for swearing the other day and his response was basically "can't stop me".


It should of been a response along the lines of "Oops, sorry, I'll try not to do it again".

Richard

2012-02-07 19:20:56

Okay, I must be going crazy, because I swear I actually commented on that thread giving some help, which would have prevented the succeeding trolling. Have a look at footballjds' infractions, he has 3 whole pages. I personally think threatening him with a temp ban would sort out his attitude a little bit. I haven't noticed Sin to such an extent, I've seen him being useful in some areas of the forum. I genuinely haven't seen a single point of positive input from footballjds.

EDIT: No, my apologies, just a similar thread I thought I posted on.

Kyle Undefined

2012-02-07 19:28:29

From: Richard
Have a look at footballjds' infractions, he has 3 whole pages. I personally think threatening him with a temp ban would sort out his attitude a little bit.


Wow, I never looked at his profile, that's insane! I would hate to even get one infraction :/ I doubt a threatened temp ban will even do anything.

From: Richard
I haven't noticed Sin to such an extent, I've seen him being useful in some areas of the forum.


Yeah, it's a touch and go with him. Sometimes he is helpful, others he just posts BS.

From: Richard
I genuinely haven't seen a single point of positive input from footballjds.


Same here, and it's a shame since he is an SRL Member.

Gu3st...

2012-02-07 19:43:36

For the record; PatDuffy apologized and said he wont post such posts again via PM.
E: Also apologized in a +rep saying I was "correct completely" and that he wont do it again

Iron Man

2012-02-07 19:56:00

That thread is really depressing, it's exactly the behaviour we criticized other communities for. :/

Gu3st...

2012-02-07 20:02:41

A heads up whenever you guys see rude posts; Report it or warn the post! If the poster has been given a warning before or has posted multiple posts then turn that warning into an infraction.

When in doubt: Report.

Hobbit

2012-02-07 21:09:28

I talked to Sin a couple days ago, he said he would try to do better. He's been having a bit of a rough time outside SRL. But he said he would try to only post when he had something nice/constructive to say.

Gu3st...

2012-02-07 21:28:48

From: Hobbit
I talked to Sin a couple days ago, he said he would try to do better. He's been having a bit of a rough time outside SRL. But he said he would try to only post when he had something nice/constructive to say.
Let's give him some time then.

TBH, I don't find his posts to be 'rude'. Not at footbaljds' level, anyways.

Coh3n

2012-02-07 21:44:46

I've disliked footballjds's attitude for a very long time.

I wouldn't be against suspending him for a few months.

Flight

2012-02-07 22:12:58

Does someone have some relevant posts to Sin's rude posts? Maybe I'm just not seeing all of them so I'd like to read them personally.

Daniel

2012-02-07 23:48:25

Another person that falls under the same category as S1N is XxX Toxin XxX. Ever since becoming apart of the SRL Member rank, I've noticed that he's been rather arrogant - especially on applications.

EDIT: Also, I agree on footballjds's attitude. I've disliked it for a very long time. When he returned after his break, he was pretty good and at least utilised the English language (not sure if everyone remembers, but when he got into members, before and after, he couldn't write properly. Although, he was mildly better than P1nky at the time [thank god he's improved too!]). And now of late, he just uses it to negatively criticise and troll people - not what I like to see.

Kyle Undefined

2012-02-07 23:52:13

From: Flight
Does someone have some relevant posts to Sin's rude posts? Maybe I'm just not seeing all of them so I'd like to read them personally.


- http://villavu.com/forum/showpost.php?p=920266&postcount=11 (Could of been a bad joke attempt)

- http://villavu.com/forum/showpost.php?p=920260&postcount=15

- http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74370

- http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=919772#post919772 (For this one, start at the one this links to and read your way down)

These are just a few examples, not going through 20 pages to find them all.

Flight

2012-02-08 01:22:51

Ah yeah I see what you mean. :/ If I'm not mistaken people have warned footballjds in the past to clean up his act, yes? I don't pay a whole lot of attention to him so I dunno if it's really working, but after a certain amount of infractions/warnings should the user not be punished? Irregardless of rank.

Sin is still new, and yeah I can tell from those posts he has become pretty arrogant, that's for sure, but just incase you guys are thinking of taking action against him I would suggest simply reminding him about the principles of SRL and how things work here. Maybe instead of straight off warning him "Hey, cool it or you're cruisin' for a bruisin'" (:garfield:) we could just have an admin / moderator send him a PM reminding him we're all friends here, and what sets us apart from other communities is we keep things at a mature level. Ya know, something like that…

Kyle Undefined

2012-02-08 02:38:07

To be honest, I think footballjds needs a temp ban for awhile. He has been given plenty of chances to change, warnings, and infractions. From the history of his Infractions, they go on from year to year, that alone should be enough prompt for a temp ban.

As for Sin, I just think he needs to be reminded how a true SRL Member is suppose to act and behave. I don't think a temp ban is needed, as of yet, but that could change. It seems it happened shortly after he got his Scripter Cup, and if I would of known he was going to have this kind of attitude, I wouldn't have ever suggested it :/

I agree with your idea Flight (As usual :p), and maybe someone should be made an example out of, just to show that the attitude isn't welcome here. I don't know, just an idea.

Markus

2012-02-08 05:05:42

About both: someone should talk to them first. Do not threaten to ban, that just makes things worse. Staff is there to be supportive of our members, we aren't just police agents.
I'll talk to them this weekend if no one else does it before.

Gu3st...

2012-02-08 05:43:57

This is how I'm thinking we should handle this: If a warning doesn't do the trick, PM him/her about it. If that doesn't do the trick, Infract him for his following offences until the 3-point temp ban due to infractions occur

cause

2012-02-08 12:28:37

Ok well I think Markus would be a good person to talk to them IMO.

Kyle Undefined

2012-02-09 20:25:36

Saw Sin attacking Scaper, warned him in the public that he needs to watch his attitude.

Just saw a post from Sin about calling Scaper a 12 year old, just sent him the following PM:

From: Kyle Undefined
From: Sin
I initially did exchange a hand of friendship to Scaper, but like the twelve year old he is, he declined.


This comment really isn't necessary, it makes you look immature and just brings up drama that this forum doesn't need.

There has been an increase in peoples attitudes towards each other, and if there isn't any change, there will be consequences in the future.

Please keep that in mind :)


So he has been warned twice already, next time it will be an infraction. I'm tired of this.

Markus

2012-02-11 10:08:03

Someone link me to some recent posts illustrating the excessive trolling. No need in talking when unprepared.

cause

2012-02-28 01:38:06

footballjds is starting to annoy me:

Gu3st...

2012-02-28 04:52:18

He always finds enjoyment of annoying other people. Just ignore him :/

BraK

2012-02-28 16:59:32

lol footballjds derepped me earlier for closing a thread about donating to get into members. I really lol'd at him about it.

cause

2012-02-28 18:27:29

Can we give him a temp ban? Just a week or so?

Markus

2012-03-03 13:19:34

"Fuck yea" is real swearing yes.

Bam Bam

2012-04-12 23:31:06

Is it just me or has Sin's attitude been improving lately? A few weeks ago he pissed me off and I vowed to stalk him around the forums but since I've given up on that :D it seems like his attitude has improved a bit.

[opinion]I still think he's a dumbass[/opinion]

-Bam Bam

Kyle Undefined

2012-04-13 00:09:09

He has his moments, but I think it's just because he's 15 and teenagers can be annoying. :p

cause

2012-04-13 02:29:33

Yeah Sin has definitely improved!

Bam Bam

2012-04-13 12:18:41

From: Kyle Undefined
He has his moments, but I think it's just because he's 15 and teenagers can be annoying. :p


I just didnt like seeing them troll the new members.

Daniel

2012-07-10 12:02:49

Going to continue this, especially after seeing this thread. Absolutely disgusting behaviour towards an individual of this community. I am divided as to whether or not infract him, DESPITE it being in the BBQ pit..

Both of their attitudes are a negative asset to this community, completely unneeded and reputation damaging.

And it's not like they can talk, either! They have next to no scripting ability of their own.

/me angry.

Flight

2012-07-10 13:22:33

From: Daniel
Going to continue this, especially after seeing this thread. Absolutely disgusting behaviour towards an individual of this community. I am divided as to whether or not infract him, DESPITE it being in the BBQ pit..

Both of their attitudes are a negative asset to this community, completely unneeded and reputation damaging.

And it's not like they can talk, either! They have next to no scripting ability of their own.

/me angry.


I'd normally see this as an opportunity to throw some insults your way, Daniel (:garfield:), but in this case I truly agree ya. Does anyone else find it odd that both of their attitudes took a nose dive at (or in?) around the same time frame?

They're not exactly who I would nominate to represent that rank as a whole.

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-10 17:45:26

I've learned to just ignore them, really. That's the only thing you can do. I hate how they post pictures of their rep and glorify getting derepped.

/me infracts Daniel for gravedigging :p <3

Bam Bam

2012-07-11 00:22:56

You won't get rid of them by banning them so it's best just to keep an eye on them as they are in my opinion.

Daniel

2012-07-11 05:02:39

They are a scourge to this community, and should be dealt with sooner rather than later!

/me readies the pesticide.
/me readies the mouse trap.
/me readies the poison.

Gu3st...

2012-07-11 16:56:27

Got several PMs today regarding Shay:

I was wondering if you could do something abut Shay and reply back to this. His attitude is really something he needs to change because im getting sick of it, and it just isnt me who is sick of it, check out what he posted here and you'll see other who go against his childish behavior.
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85809

thank you.


I am sorry if this is coming across as whining or whatever you want to view it as, but can you explain to me why Shay hasn't been infracted or at least sternly warned for his attitude?

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85809

I have seen so many threads like the one above where he is just "stirring up trouble, or poking the fire". I feel like so many of his posts are in direct violation of the misbehavior, insulting other members, and bask-seat moderating rules.

I know I am just a nobody here on the forums, so why should anyone listen to me but I really do enjoy coming to this website everyday and I hate seeing people like Shay demoralize people like me and, even worse, people who are just getting started on this forum.

I know you mods are very busy people, and I really appreciate you taking the time to read this. Thanks.

-Andrew

YoHoJo

2012-07-11 17:02:16

I have also been getting many PMs over time regarding Sahy, exactly/similar to the ones above.

His 4 pages of warnings/infractions have done nothing change him.

We all know his attitude started when he got SRL Members. Let's take the rank away and make him a Jr member. And not only until he just 'fakes' being nice and holds back. Let's make him a Jr member for AT LEAST one month and see what that changes.

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-11 18:46:50

From: YoHoJo
I have also been getting many PMs over time regarding Sahy, exactly/similar to the ones above.

His 4 pages of warnings/infractions have done nothing change him.

We all know his attitude started when he got SRL Members. Let's take the rank away and make him a Jr member. And not only until he just 'fakes' being nice and holds back. Let's make him a Jr member for AT LEAST one month and see what that changes.


I totally agree, and it's very annoying. That "should" teach him a lesson.

While we are at it, why not do something similar to fjds?

Flight

2012-07-11 22:33:04

From: Kyle Undefined
I totally agree, and it's very annoying. That "should" teach him a lesson.

While we are at it, why not do something similar to fjds?


I'm for this.

Daniel

2012-07-11 22:37:41

From: kyle undefined
i totally agree, and it's very annoying. That "should" teach him a lesson.

While we are at it, why not do something similar to fjds?


+9001

noidea

2012-07-12 00:03:36

From: YoHoJo
We all know his attitude started when he got SRL Members. Let's take the rank away and make him a Jr member. And not only until he just 'fakes' being nice and holds back. Let's make him a Jr member for AT LEAST one month and see what that changes.


Not even bullshitting, thats brilliant.
IMO, I don't think fjds will change without a break from this community. He's been like this for forever :/

Daniel

2012-07-12 00:09:45

From: noidea
Not even bullshitting, thats brilliant.
IMO, I don't think fjds will change without a break from this community. He's been like this for forever :/


He used to be a bit better than this. I mean, he never used to attack new members, but he still swore a lot. Then he went on break for some time, came back and was all nice and mature, then turned into what he currently is.

Bobarkinator

2012-07-12 00:35:52

Sending him back to juniors would really just give him attention wouldn't it? Isn't that probably what he wants?

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-12 00:38:39

From: Bobarkinator
Sending him back to juniors would really just give him attention wouldn't it? Isn't that probably what he wants?


No matter what we do, he's going to try and gain attention. So why not give him a reason to finally run his mouth.

Narcle

2012-07-12 03:18:43

From: Kyle Undefined
No matter what we do, he's going to try and gain attention. So why not give him a reason to finally run his mouth.


Ah ha! A distraction, quick around the back!

(serious here too)

YoHoJo

2012-07-12 04:05:49

I don't recall 100% but I think Football will just never change, I think he's been banned many a time before and no change.

Shay we should give Jr rank to and see what happens.

Home

2012-07-12 04:31:53

From: YoHoJo
I don't recall 100% but I think Football will just never change, I think he's been banned many a time before and no change.

Shay we should give Jr rank to and see what happens.


I agree with you all, I just came back from holiday and checked all those links, Shays (S1N's) attitude is very bad, and hurts community, he is an attention whore, nothing we can do, if Yohojos trick works I will be amazed but this is our last chance in my opinion before ban.

~Home

ReadySteadyGo

2012-07-12 05:55:45

Please do the Shay to Junior member thing. Perhaps it's childish of me to want to see him get wound up, but the amount of time I've wasted reading all his BS, and the way I've seen him attack people, I think he really deserves it.

He will kick up a fuss but we could just handle it in a sincere way and say that we don't think that he is good enough/right to represent the community.

Flight

2012-07-12 06:53:10

From: ReadySteadyGo
Please do the Shay to Junior member thing. Perhaps it's childish of me to want to see him get wound up, but the amount of time I've wasted reading all his BS, and the way I've seen him attack people, I think he really deserves it.

He will kick up a fuss but we could just handle it in a sincere way and say that we don't think that he is good enough/right to represent the community.


Indeed, it will go one of two ways. The first (and hopefully this is what happens) is he'll find out first hand that his attitude isn't going unnoticed and action had to be taken; enough to make him take our warnings seriously. Other than that he'll blow up, make some hateful posts towards the staff, and probably leave back to his forum (where I imagine he'll do some flaming).

'Tis a delicate situation, we can only hope he takes it as a message rather than a threat.

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-12 10:04:21

From: Narcle
Ah ha! A distraction, quick around the back!

(serious here too)


Haha :p

From: YoHoJo
I don't recall 100% but I think Football will just never change, I think he's been banned many a time before and no change.

Shay we should give Jr rank to and see what happens.


We still need to figure something out for fjds…

As for Sin/Shay, doo eet, doo eet nao!

From: ReadySteadyGo
Please do the Shay to Junior member thing. Perhaps it's childish of me to want to see him get wound up, but the amount of time I've wasted reading all his BS, and the way I've seen him attack people, I think he really deserves it.

He will kick up a fuss but we could just handle it in a sincere way and say that we don't think that he is good enough/right to represent the community.


I completely agree with this.

From: Flight
Indeed, it will go one of two ways. The first (and hopefully this is what happens) is he'll find out first hand that his attitude isn't going unnoticed and action had to be taken; enough to make him take our warnings seriously. Other than that he'll blow up, make some hateful posts towards the staff, and probably leave back to his forum (where I imagine he'll do some flaming).

'Tis a delicate situation, we can only hope he takes it as a message rather than a threat.


I hope he goes the first route, and see that attitude does in fact matter.

EDIT: I was thinking, if we are going to demote Sin, we need to do something to Fjds at the same time. That way, it's fair. I say just demote both of them at the same time.

Bam Bam

2012-07-12 14:23:38

Demote them please.

weequ

2012-07-12 15:45:08

How about a 2 week or 1 month suspension? That way they probably wouldn't gain the attention they probably want.

Gu3st...

2012-07-12 18:58:44

Shay sent me this image;
pertaining to this thread
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86211

apparently footballjds hacked him? maybe he was hacked by rsbuddy or whatever?

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-12 19:04:09

I honestly doubt fjds hacked anyone, he seems to have no interest at all for RS. If he let fjds see his computer through TeamViewer, he would of noticed something going on.

Also, when people say they were hacked here, they always say they never used anything else but Simba. That is never the truth. I bet he used a java client at some point.

Gu3st...

2012-07-12 20:57:22

Yes, most likely it's his own fault, just though I'd post it here newertheless

Daniel

2012-07-12 23:08:59

Also keep in mind that S1n might kick up a stink if footballjds remains a member, and vice versa.

Kyle Undefined

2012-07-13 02:52:08

From: Daniel
Also keep in mind that S1n might kick up a stink if footballjds remains a member, and vice versa.


You noob, you didn't read my post D:

From: Kyle Undefined
I was thinking, if we are going to demote Sin, we need to do something to Fjds at the same time. That way, it's fair. I say just demote both of them at the same time.

Daniel

2012-07-13 02:59:24

From: Kyle Undefined
You noob, you didn't read my post D:


Who even bothers to read your posts? ;)

Bobarkinator

2012-07-17 11:23:47

We should not be flaming these guys in public threads. That makes us look just as bad as them. Yes, their attitudes get on our nerves, obviously that's true or we wouldn't have these threads. But it doesn't help anything to flame them in public.

This forum has always been lax on discipline, and that doesn't help things here. But we just need to infract the guy (which we've been doing), so we need to have some administrators talk to him, then temp ban if necessary. The goal isn't to kick people, it's to correct so they'll act better.

cause

2012-08-22 10:40:06

I'm pm'ing football about removing the GIF of someone doing drugs via nasal in his sig, however I'm not active enough to ensure he removes it. Could someone check on it in a day or two?

He has kindly asked that a mod please pm him to have him change it, and has informed me that it is not drugs, but pixie dust aka sugar.

Gu3st...

2012-08-22 13:31:28

From: cause
I'm pm'ing football about removing the GIF of someone doing drugs via nasal in his sig, however I'm not active enough to ensure he removes it. Could someone check on it in a day or two?

He has kindly asked that a mod please pm him to have him change it, and has informed me that it is not drugs, but pixie dust aka sugar.
I'll PM him

cause

2012-08-22 15:42:08

Thanks Axel :)

masterBB

2012-08-22 17:35:05

It seems sin is looking more like a srl member lately. I don't think a ban would suit him.

At this moment football is again searching for the edge with a terrible attitude:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88880

BraK

2012-08-22 18:09:27

Brandon I went ahead and deleted all those comments as the were pointless to the thread. Try not too get into a pissing match with them on the lower boards it looks bad all around. If possible try to keep it in PM or report it. But I agree with what you were saying there.

cause

2012-09-17 16:48:06


Is this infractable?? Obvs he is pushing the limits (yet again)
Considering he hates me, I'd prefer if someone else infracted him (if they feel it is just)
link: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89782

Gu3st...

2012-09-17 18:14:43

Yes it is, swearing outside of BBQ