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It looks like jagex is finally taking the threat that RWT poses to its game seriously, they've started taking drastic measures!! Several big Gold buyers/sellers have been hit hard by this, what jagex does is simply put, if they think you RWT they wipe your account of all gps/lock.

They used to ban RWT accounts, but it wasn't that common. Seems like they're finally taking them as the serious threat they are or they've managed to come up with a much better system of detecting it!

I recommend that all Simba users should avoid transfering cash from one account to another, as i've read people saying they got wiped for transferring as little as 2m on their noob.

To be totally honest, I'm quite happy to hear this (although i wont be transfering my backup santa from my noob onto my main for a while :P ) RWT is what made last years botting scene explode, good to see them RWTers feeling the pinch!

I went on Sythe yesterday just to check my inbox, looked at the runescape forums a little bit and this is what i saw!

4b ($2200+) lost.


First reset

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1320093

Just got wiped for 400M… Fuck…

Is there any way to prevent being wiped?

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1331762

Got wiped like 6 times this month. Just got wiped 22m (probably lowest recorded wipe), 1b, and lost another $3000 this month.

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1328871

The way Jagex is wiping your accounts is based on java files in your folders you download from the game.

IP address means nothing since they focus more on the certain computer rather than the ip address, it is very easy to track by a company its mainly used to cancel out computers which have charged back or done something which was undesirable. Jagex instead of banning the computer are using it to their advantage to remove gold and discourage undesirable members on rs. I'm positive even if you begin playing legitimately on rs you will be wiped again since it seems automated.

I tested this out by setting up a few accounts, one which was created on a computer which had an account that was wiped on it, and another account with the same ip address as the account which was wiped but created on a different computer, the account on the computer with the wiped account was created on a different ip. I transferred 20mil to the account with the wiped computer and then 100m to the account with the non wiped computer but the same ip as the wiped account, both from the same account and then returned it two times so it went to the separate accounts then back to the test accounts. I left it over night and the account which was created on the wiped computer was wiped with 20mil whereas the account which was on a different computer was left intact. It seems the system is automated rather than jagex simply targeting certain sellers.

A lot of websites use this mainly with paypal and credit cards, if you have cancelled a payment normally your entire computer system will be blocked from accessing the payment option but if you hop onto a different computer under the same ip the account will be allowed to access the payment options.

Be careful trading gold especially from a computer which is linked to an account which was wiped.

I invite people to post their stories of how they were wiped it gives us all a better understanding of how they are finding out who is continuously rwting.

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1331568

Guess it's time to delete UID/Random.dat again then?

Lol.
Looks like Fagex is finally taking a stand.
I despise RWT tbh, only botting is good for me ^.^

From: Markus
Guess it's time to delete UID/Random.dat again then?

Well people are trying that, it's not proven that it works though!

Jagex does not control all trades not even those higher then 2-4b wich I traded alot on my main and my other account before I got cleaned by staking it all.
Usually if accounts trade to multiple persons the mule's used are already marked and will be swiped.
Defenitly you only get marked if the big trades are to multiple accounts.
Most goldfarmers use mules for over months so if they actually take a different mule every month then chances were lower they get caught.
Who puts 1-4b on a lvl3 anyways so most times it's your own fault for not being carefull enough.

Finally we see jagex take some kind of action.

Fun thing the big goldfarmers are being helped by this becouse they are cautious and price will defenitly rise becouse of these goldwipes.

Bleh, got like 5-9 diff RS folders and xfered gp between my accounts all the time, none ever wiped. I think I moved 1.5b-2b total between them in last 10 days, I still got all their cash.

They have to be linking your pc's with sythe forums.

EDIT:

I only been wiped once when I got macroing minor ban for botting fruit mode at sorc garden. I had 60k bank, fagex took 45k and left me with 15k. Wtf thinks taking away 45k is going to make me cry?


Pretty sure that money didn't appear there magically ^.^

P.S. for those trying to remove RS data folders, there are copies in your main drive directory, on your personal folder, on Windows folder, might have seen them on system32 also. There is a bunch, anyways if you are going to RWT, use a VM, if it gets tagged, delete and make new 1

From: DemiseScythe
Bleh, got like 5-9 diff RS folders and xfered gp between my accounts all the time, none ever wiped. I think I moved 1.5b-2b total between them in last 10 days, I still got all their cash.

They have to be linking your pc's with sythe forums.

EDIT:

I only been wiped once when I got macroing minor ban for botting fruit mode at sorc garden. I had 60k bank, fagex took 45k and left me with 15k. Wtf thinks taking away 45k is going to make me cry?


Pretty sure that money didn't appear there magically ^.^

Hmmm it seems some people are getting owned by jagex and some are not! Haha well i think the wipes are automatic, something must trigger the wipes!
and @jordi, those guys especially Arcus Isidar (the 4bill guy) are veteran RWTers, they know what they're doing and they still got wiped.

Just to confirm, deleting the files does nothing, they are simply reloaded and put exactly in the same place and contain the same things while the runescape client is loading. go ahead, give it a try

From: DemiseScythe

I only been wiped once when I got macroing minor ban for botting fruit mode at sorc garden. I had 60k bank, fagex took 45k and left me with 15k. Wtf thinks taking away 45k is going to make me cry?

That just means it's automatically done when they ban your account for macroing, also it's taken away by a static percentage. They CBA to remove money from your account manually, after all, their tea doesn't drink itself.

Your runescape account, and everything on it is the property of Jagex. Jagex really dislikes the idea of anyone making money from their game, so if anyone got their account wiped, it serves them right.

From: cycrosism
Your runescape account, and everything on it is the property of Jagex. Jagex really dislikes the idea of anyone making money from their game, so if anyone got their account wiped, it serves them right.

oh no the runescape police^^^

From: illuminatiswag
oh no the runescape police^^^

What he said is absolutely right. I wouldn't sell my rsgp at all. It's a game afterall, you shouldn't play it to make money! What i don't understand is who is it that's buying all the gps to sustain a black market on sythe!?



//gonna max on my main this yearr!!!! :DDD Still long way to go though :/

From: momotron
What he said is absolutely right. I wouldn't sell my rsgp at all. It's a game afterall, you shouldn't play it to make money! What i don't understand is who is it that's buying all the gps to sustain a black market on sythe!?



//gonna max on my main this yearr!!!! :DDD Still long way to go though :/

That's my question actually. Who is buying all this gold to actually create a market for it? Weird.

This is how I trade bigger amounts:
-Open two computers (idk about virtual boxes), other one could be vps.
-Connect to vpn on the other computer
-Log in a mule account on the vpn computer (This account must have never logged on your real ip)
-Log in your main account on your real ip
-Drop money or items with your main
-Collect with the noob account

Of course even better would be doing fake stakes to xfer to a mule (not level 3 in this case)

I think I'll start being more carefull even with smaller trades from now on.

From: weequ
This is how I trade bigger amounts:
-Open two computers (idk about virtual boxes), other one could be vps.
-Connect to vpn on the other computer
-Log in a mule account on the vpn computer (This account must have never logged on your real ip)
-Log in your main account on your real ip
-Drop money or items with your main
-Collect with the noob account

Of course even better would be doing fake stakes to xfer to a mule (not level 3 in this case)

I think I'll start being more carefull even with smaller trades from now on.

From what I've heard, no matter how careful people have been, they've gotten busted :S Imma be careful for the next few weeks, not gonna transfer any cash

What about dying in the wildy with your mule account to a dragon orso. The cash will be dropped and should look like a clean transfer to me.

From: okokokok
What about dying in the wildy with your mule account to a dragon orso. The cash will be dropped and should look like a clean transfer to me.

Probably yes unless you are logged in on the same ip address..

From: weequ
Probably yes unless you are logged in on the same ip address..

If two accounts in seperate browsers attempt to connect to the same server you will get an error message in the client. So no double ip use even possible?


Edit: I have traded money between my accounts lately and to Yohojo. Luckly my account is already locked, hahah.

Edit2: Maybe some type of money pouch tracking method?

From: Hero
If two accounts in seperate browsers attempt to connect to the same server you will get an error message in the client. So no double ip use even possible?

2 computers and vpn on another should atleast work. You can't use regular http proxy to play runescape.

i created 15 new accounts like 2 weeks ago, my goal was not goldfarm but to buy uncut sapphires with them because they were crashing and in bulk they can be sold easly for 300plus gps profit ea, i transfered from my main to ea of the new acc(used 2 pcs) the amount of money need to buy 6k sapphires which was 24hrs

when i logged on the other day i found out about the new trade limit(i didnt realized they imposed this in then end of nov/dec) for new f2p accounts and that i couldnt trade either cash or items with more than 25k value, i thought i could drop trade, wrong, then i thought of dieing in wilderness

found out that if you die with noted items they will not appear to anyone besides you, wow, but i found out that if you die with the cash outside the money pouch u can

so i sold all the sapphires(made a good profit because they rose) and simply took the cash from money pouch and died to the skeletons in the beginning of wilderness since was a lvl 3, bit risky but i safely did this with all accounts with of course picking the cash

thats how i found out how to trade money even from a lvl3 f2p with the new trade limits, oh and you can die with fire runes since they arent noted :p

From: wister1
i created 15 new accounts like 2 weeks ago, my goal was not goldfarm but to buy uncut sapphires with them because they were crashing and in bulk they can be sold easly for 300plus gps profit ea, i transfered from my main to ea of the new acc(used 2 pcs) the amount of money need to buy 6k sapphires which was 24hrs

when i logged on the other day i found out about the new trade limit(i didnt realized they imposed this in then end of nov/dec) for new f2p accounts and that i couldnt trade either cash or items with more than 25k value, i thought i could drop trade, wrong, then i thought of dieing in wilderness

found out that if you die with noted items they will not appear to anyone besides you, wow, but i found out that if you die with the cash outside the money pouch u can

so i sold all the sapphires(made a good profit because they rose) and simply took the cash from money pouch and died to the skeletons in the beginning of wilderness since was a lvl 3, bit risky but i safely did this with all accounts with of course picking the cash

thats how i found out how to trade money even from a lvl3 f2p with the new trade limits, oh and you can die with fire runes since they arent noted :p

Oooh, that's interesting, thank you! ;)
Rep+.

~Eerik.

meh alot of people dont know this just giving my contribution :p

I just traded 300m between 3 accs in 10 minutes at ge, not worried tbh.

I own all of them and neither is lvl 3, they probably look at those accs with the minimum levels because it is obvious they are money jaks. I used VMWare and Ubuntu on the account that held the items.

I just transferred 20m in items through trade (Same pc.) (Level 3, brand new)
Lets see what happens :P.

I will stay posted.

This will make gold prices plummet, and probably only thing it may bring is the goldfarmers botting more and more accounts to try and minimize the loss :s

From: nokiafan1
This will make gold prices plummet, and probably only thing it may bring is the goldfarmers botting more and more accounts to try and minimize the loss :s

It will actually do the opposite. Gold prices will go up as Gold Sellers need to recuperate the loss they get from rollbacks.

L0l, luckily I sold 2.03b like week ago so I have nothing to worry about :)

Why doesn't jagex just sell gold lmao.. think of the money they'd make.

i think this is good i mean im sick to death of cocky 7-10 year olds bragging about how ruch they are when all they did was use their dad's credit card to buy their pixel wealth..

Gold farming and RWT will always exist. Even when trade limit was around it existed lol.

Also am I ok xfing like 50m between my two accounts once and a while? :S

From: I Bot Phats
Gold farming and RWT will always exist. Even when trade limit was around it existed lol.

Also am I ok xfing like 50m between my two accounts once and a while? :S

if the 2 of them are decent lvls then you should be fine, jagex are mainly after strong accounts transfering to lvl 3 or close or the way around

I bet that you can still transfer without them noticing if you use tact. I always have been able to.
Not that I am RWTing right now. I just think it's always going to thrive -.-

From: based
Why doesn't jagex just sell gold lmao.. think of the money they'd make.

They want people to play RuneScape for the social aspect of it, to talk to other people and make friends. That is one of the main reasons they cracked down on bots. If they started selling gold people would buy that, buy all the items they need and then soon get bored of the game. They wouldn't need to work for anything instead they would just buy it.

This cant be the end of rwt'ing people will always find a way theres always someone who is to lazy to work for the things they want themselves.

This is actually the smartest tactic to fighting the RWT markets. I mean, personally, if I lost more than $150 I would completely stop buying. I do feel for those who lost $2,000.

Do you think this has anything to do with jagex receiving the customer files from impsoft? and maybe they are watchign those accounts linked to the impsoft registered emails?

I think Gold farmers will always find a way to profit. If Jagex devalue their inventory by eliminating FWT, they just find other ways to scam, they will be forced to phishing and hacking a lot more accounts and resell them to compensate for their greedy coffers.

Instead, Jagex should protect their players by adding a Separate set of pins in the trade screen and or GE, that way Gold farmers won't be able to rob and clean you out.