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Well, even though I think she quit,

She has been subject to slander from some of our own members. I think she should be given a chance that everyone deserves. She has potential, wants to help out, and she could be a major contributor for us going forward.

She seems like a great person but she has a bad attitude when she is pushed by anyone. That just doesn't fly around here and I'm sure everyone would agree on that.

I do feel bad though that she has been slandered recently. No one deserves that.

She is current record holder 'most active threads about person in higher up sections'..

From: RISK
She seems like a great person but she has a bad attitude when she is pushed by anyone. That just doesn't fly around here and I'm sure everyone would agree on that.

I do feel bad though that she has been slandered recently. No one deserves that.

I agree. I think if she was told in a nicer-ish manner it woulda helped.

From: markus
she is current record holder 'most active threads about person in higher up sections'..

wtf man i thought it was me.

I'd be more than happy to give her a second chance and attempt to see her in a better light of who she really is, rather than the person she has recently portrayed with attitude and anger.

I'll admit though, I have de-repped her before for her attitude, telling her to 'Grow up' because of the attitude. I wish I could say sorry to her.

From: kingarabian
wtf man i thought it was me.

I doubt you'd like to be called a "schizophrenic hypersensitive attention whore."

As for RISK, its alright, at least you didn't call me a stupid bitch.


Oh and for the record, I didn't tell that kid to post on site and try to buy a script. All I wanted was to get the kid to stop messaging me so I could continue with my homework.

http://pastebin.com/q10xuwBm

IRC Log

From: DemiseScythe
I doubt you'd like to be called a "schizophrenic hypersensitive attention whore."

You never got told the entire context around that.

Demise you're a bit too high on your horse since you got SRL Member..

"Question, do I have permission to say in her face she has the personality of a junky who's out of crack? Because that's the only thing I can think of that comes close to describing it.

Tbh if I have to choose between working antirandoms or no more schizophrenic hypersensitive attention whore, I'd choose the latter."

People should just be honest and tell me to my face they want me gone instead of pretending to be someone else when I am around and back stabbing me as soon as I let my guard down. I'll leave if I am asked, its not a big deal to be honest.

From: DemiseScythe
"Question, do I have permission to say in her face she has the personality of a junky who's out of crack? Because that's the only thing I can think of that comes close to describing it.

Tbh if I have to choose between working antirandoms or no more schizophrenic hypersensitive attention whore, I'd choose the latter."

People should just be honest and tell me to my face they want me gone instead of pretending to be someone else when I am around and back stabbing me as soon as I let my guard down. I'll leave if I am asked, its not a big deal to be honest.

That's one post. I said context.

But ok, here in your face, there's a good reason I didn't. I'm Dutch, really blunt, bad at wording it the correct way. But all damage is already done so now I just want you to know it all.

Here, recent post. 100% verbatim, non-editted. Related to this thread: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=907013

From: Markus

I strongly disagree with your infraction of Bnagy, "take a chill pill" isn't really offensive language. Same with those other infractions. They aren't really insulting. Maybe even an official warning is harsh.

From: DemiseScythe
Good question, why isn't he banned yet?

Well THAT is one really clear case of back-seat moderating, which actually is an infractable offence. Those 8 words illustrate how she managed to get a large part of the community against her in those 2 months.

From: DemiseScythe
Of course you did not buy it in Villavu, I think mods would know if you did and they are on all their right to ask inquiry on a possibly leaked script. You became part of this community, you listen to those above you and follow the rules.

Again, she's not the mother of that guy! Backseat moderating.

Here, one reported post of her.

From: DemiseScythe

DemiseScythe has reported a post.

Reason:

Offtopic and I asking for requests regarding the script's topic, not on scripting advice, warning was and has been in Op

Post: DemiseSlayer [Development]
Forum: Research & Development Lounge
Assigned Moderators: Boreas

Posted by: footballjds
Original Content:

From: DemiseScythe
The DTM mastery, well DTMs is the only thing I have mastered, mainly the reason I choose to work alone, can't stand TPAs and SPSs, and others will most likely just want to use those to make this script. I work with DTMs and DTMs only besides some SRL functions.

SPS is far too slow, i can agree there. However, for walking i'd much rather use a DDTM. Because, after all if you can auto color any of your points you'll get a faster and significantly more accurate result then if you have to increase tol.

a DTM is a tpa. Seriously, it is. It's just points connected to colors. The only difference is a DTM is a TPA already put together and you cannot change it.

In that entire thread she acted like 'RAGE RAGE RAGE DONT DARE TO SAY TPA'. The original post had in it 'Mods will remove off-topic posts'. Erhm I can decide for myself what I want to remove and what not, no need for the new gal to tell us what to do.

I wasn't prejudiced when I first heard of her. Ok that members app was crappy but worked, same with those antirandoms. "Well I could use arrays and nice seperated functions but coh3n is going to redo those anyways". Am I captain obvious when I say that rewriting wouldn't be necessary when it was done right in one go? Then they could be put in SRL right away. I'm not even starting of that ragequitting when someone told her the truth about a few things, or deleting that great (now undeleted, wanted to read it myself) DTM tutorial when Narcle said something about everyone using it nowadays and that that might not be a good thing. Idk what's going on in those brains but I can just feel there are some issues.. I'd say it to her in her face but I'm not subtle and she probably can not handle it and will think I hate her blablabla.

Everyone probably thinks now that I am on some personal crusade against Demise. I'd like to stress this is not the case. I'm just annoyed at times and would like to see it 'fixed'. There is some good character there inside, but with a few irritating traits.

edit 6986: Ask yourself, what would be the motivation of someone to leak that post. Imo it sounds like you're being used.

If that is one post, hard to imagine what else I am called way up there. Don't take this bad, I am not raging, just answering to the post's topic.

EDIT:

I am sick, I had SD for several years and I am partially bipolar. My life hasn't exactly been that pretty either yet I try my best to be positive towards others, help them in anything I can, and contribute to the community with as much as my scripting skills allow me. I try my best to keep my emotions and my work separated but sometimes stuff just slips out and bashes on people. Yet I don't believe there is more than 10 in the 330+ posts I have made. I am sorry if I hurt others, it probably wasn't what I was trying to do, I know how it feels when one gets hurt afterall and its not pretty at all. How many posts have I reported since I got a warning from that one report? How many times have I told Mods what they should do since a mod edited my post and wasn't even polite enough to send me a message?

This past week has just been shity, it has been mostly clouded if not raining. My classes are stressing me out because they are expecting too much of me. I haven't been able to eat well. I am honestly sorry if I can't control myself 100% of the time, after all I am not human.

From: DemiseScythe
If that is one post, hard to imagine what else I am called way up there. Don't take this bad, I am not raging, just answering to the post's topic.

It's one late, tired, angry example Obviously just given to you to set you up against me. Not that I care what you think of me, but I'll give you the full reasoning.
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=907020#post907020
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=904794#post904794 (I'm not fast with the banhammer at all, else Icefire would already be banned)
This one did it for me:

From: DemiseScythe

From: Runaway
Don't restrict yourself to one method; it will only harm you in the long run.

A TPA is just a more manipulable version of a DTM anyways, you're only restricting the updating/usage in the future by using solely DTMs.

I am giving future script users a choice in script content instead of just forcing certain settings on them, I AM NOT ASKING FOR SCRIPTING ADVICE SO PLEASE KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. I am tired of your kind telling me to use TPAs, that would be blasphemy, its like telling a Muslim to eat Pork.

P.S. LEARN TO READ OP THREAD, I EVEN BOLDED IT FOR YOU SO YOU WOULDN'T MISS IT.

From: DemiseScythe
Read F.A.Q. before posting to keep the amount of spam down. Any off-topic posts will be deleted by a mod. No amount of trolling will be tolerated.

- THANK YOU and please stay ON-TOPIC next time.

Have fun at OSI, I hope you can actually stand icefire/wanted. He got his own agenda.

edit: I hope you also read the editted part of the post above yours. For the full view.

From: Markus
It's one late, tired, angry example Obviously just given to you to set you up against me. Not that I care what you think of me, but I'll give you the full reasoning.
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=907020#post907020
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=904794#post904794 (I'm not fast with the banhammer at all, else Icefire would already be banned)
This one did it for me:



Have fun at OSI, I hope you can actually stand icefire/wanted. He got his own agenda.

edit: I hope you also read the editted part of the post above yours. For the full view.

This whole thread is total Bullshit.

And no point bringing IceFire into this thread. That is just pathetic.

~Home

From: Home
This whole thread is total Bullshit.

And no point bringing IceFire into this thread. That is just pathetic.

~Home

Not really. He had access to that post and suddenly she is OSI dev with just 2 posts there.

From: Markus
Not really. He had access to that post and suddenly she is OSI dev with just 2 posts there.

So? Doesn't that belong to Scar Divi forums / OSI forums. He can make any of us to Developer if he want's.

~Home

From: Home
So? Doesn't that belong to Scar Divi forums / OSI forums. He can make any of us to Developer if he want's.

~Home

Yes but in this case it's adding 1 and 1. As you know, he wants to push OSI and for that you need both talented scripters and users. You also know how he's going to do that second part and Demise is perfect as scripter, offer someone who was quite controversial a good dev position means you got a talented scripter hooked, especially if you show a few posts that makes it look like we want to get rid of her or whatever bullshit they can come up with.
Unless I'm missing something here?

From: Markus
Yes but in this case it's adding 1 and 1. As you know, he wants to push OSI and for that you need both talented scripters and users. You also know how he's going to do that second part and Demise is perfect as scripter, offer someone who was quite controversial a good dev position means you got a talented scripter hooked, especially if you show a few posts that makes it look like we want to get rid of her or whatever bullshit they can come up with.
Unless I'm missing something here?

Yes it's called as manipulating. But what are we doing at the moment?
Are we really at the same level. No I don't think so. As for my self I have nothing against Ice etc.

But for your own sake stop talking about which one is better OSI / SRL or who gots most best Devs, who is stealing from who's camp.

And no you are not missing anything.

~Home

From: Home
Yes it's called as manipulating. But what are we doing at the moment?
Are we really at the same level. No I don't think so. As for my self I have nothing against Ice etc.

But for your own sake stop talking about which one is better OSI / SRL or who gots most best Devs, who is stealing from who's camp.

And no you are not missing anything.

~Home

I don't really care about those include wars. I just don't want people to hate me too much for the wrong reasons.

I am actually just a Spanish section moderator because I know how to script and I speak Spanish. They changed me to OSI Dev so I had permission to go in the OSI forums and see the Su~ thread.

hxxp://forums.scar-divi.com/forumdisplay.php?74-Spanish

If knowing Spanish and helping spanish people who hardly know any English is a crime, please let me know.

EDIT:

That "Fast with the ban-hammer" was something either you or someone else said in IRC around the time I was asking you what you did in SRL. It is not my personal opinion of you and was certainly just a friendly joke.

lol'd @ "This section is reserved for speaking Dutch, any other language will not be tolerated here. You are only allowed to post Dutch threads and posts in this section, no where else on the forums." You forgot to update it a bit ;)

From: Markus
I don't really care about those include wars. I just don't want people to hate me too much for the wrong reasons.

Who is hating you currently? I know that if someone says something BS about, you don't care because you are above that.

Demise stop being attention whore. You are more than welcome here, but you must face the fact that you are NOT the best scripter here, yet you and your DTM's are not best for every situtation.

Thanks.


~Home

From: Home
Who is hating you currently? I know that if someone says something BS about, you don't care because you are above that.

Demise, obviously.

From: Markus
Demise, obviously.

Hating? That, sorry I didn't know that you count that as hating.

She is being immature, that's all.


Little addition for Demise: No one here hates you either. it's just extremely sad that you push people away from you when they are just trying to help.



~Home

From: Markus
lol'd @ "This section is reserved for speaking Dutch, any other language will not be tolerated here. You are only allowed to post Dutch threads and posts in this section, no where else on the forums." You forgot to update it a bit ;)

Yea, aparently I didn't read the English part at all.

I think she is alright.. But I guess I get hated on as well.

I just noticed this part.

From: DemiseScythe
I am sick, I had SD for several years and I am partially bipolar. My life hasn't exactly been that pretty either yet I try my best to be positive towards others, help them in anything I can, and contribute to the community with as much as my scripting skills allow me. I try my best to keep my emotions and my work separated but sometimes stuff just slips out and bashes on people. Yet I don't believe there is more than 10 in the 330+ posts I have made. I am sorry if I hurt others, it probably wasn't what I was trying to do, I know how it feels when one gets hurt afterall and its not pretty at all. How many posts have I reported since I got a warning from that one report? How many times have I told Mods what they should do since a mod edited my post and wasn't even polite enough to send me a message?

This past week has just been shity, it has been mostly clouded if not raining. My classes are stressing me out because they are expecting too much of me. I haven't been able to eat well. I am honestly sorry if I can't control myself 100% of the time, after all I am not human.

About that message: I thought I was already too harsh to you in your members application which was a few days before. You don't/didn't know me, so your first impression of me would be someone who dislikes your scripting, posts, like someone who got some personal grudge against you. I didn't want to leave such an impression so I asked (not completely in vain but I didn't know that) if someone else could talk to you a bit, also related to those reports. Didn't want to do it myself because then it would be 'Markus v. Demise' again. It's new for me that someone actually talked to you about those reports. Hereby my apologies.
Partially bipolar, I guessed that already due to the sudden mood changes. I wish I could help you with your irl issues..

Demise, can I please ask you two final questions?
Do you plan on just leaving like this, removing your major contributions? It would be a shame.
And will you accept my apologies and forgive me for what I've done?

From: Markus
Demise, can I please ask you two final questions?
Do you plan on just leaving like this, removing your major contributions? It would be a shame.
And will you accept my apologies and forgive me for what I've done?

As much as I'd like to leave right now, I know my view on all of this will change once I stop crying and my mind clears. As stated before, I will only leave if I am directly asked to by anyone of higher position than myself. I already told Coh3n to use what I wrote so far whether I left or not since I don't believe the general public should be affected by my personal issues. I wrote this last night, http://puu.sh/eZvK, I know Coh3n will clean it up for me not only because I asked him the favor, but because he wants to have the entire Antirandoms uniformily written and cleaned up. I personally like the way he writes code and I admire him for it. Those rude posts above, if you look at he actual thread, I editted them once I was myself again and even apologized on a couple. I am sorry and apologize for any troubles my personal issues might have brought upon. People could try to understand that I am not a man and my feelings get hurt easily. I admit I don't usually get jokes but thats because I am ESL and its hard to me to get jokes which are in another language other than my own. I am not sensitive to the Sudoku issues and the Include Wars, I simply was not around and I don't have any prejudices regarding any issue relating to those. I don't use the code I make for SRL on OSI and I don't use the code I make based on OSI on SRL. Just like I try not to mix my personal life with my work, I try not to mix OSI and SRL with eachother. For the Sudoku, I said I was going to make one because I wanted something challenging to make, not because I wanted to get rich or to intentionally crash the method. I, however, find it hard to understand why in less than 3 seconds I get threatened with bans. I was not leaking the precious SSRL version, SRL doesn't have a patent on Sudoku solvers, the method is no secret to anyone, I was not going to even use SRL nor Simba for it; yet someone made a crude comment about myself not having the scripting skills to make something that actually threatened the method itself. I know I am not the best scripter in the world, nor do I claim to be, but I don't want people telling me what to do either because I enjoy discovering things for myself. How did you learn to walk? Did someone tell you what to do or did you kept on trying and failing until you learned it by yourself. I preffer discovering things because then, those things would be second nature to me and I would not have to think much to know them. How many of you think about how you going to walk compared to how many just go ahead and walk? I am in no way being conceited nor thinking I am superior to anyone, I just got a different philosophy. As for that crude comment, it got someone with the skills required to make it to create it from scratch using this http://www.ecclestoad.co.uk/2005/06/sudoku-solver-in-three-lines-explained. Worked hard on it 9-14 hours for three days and created something as fast as the SSRL version but that doesn't solve the hardest puzzle yet. I myself believe that conflict is pointless and I am taking steps to remove the root of this conflict so that neither side has anything to fight for anymore. Feel free to bring back the tutorial again, afterall, nothing is ever deleted off these boards. The pictures and videos are still hosted on my puush, so it will not be glitchy if restored.

As for the last question, I accept your apologies and I got nothing to forgive. I have never thought you hated me on my Application; I considered you my friend which is why it hurt so much when I learned about those messages. Yet, I didn't hate you, I hated myself for not being able to distinguish between who wanted to be my friend and who didn't.

Either way, please forgive me for letting my life issues affect everyone of you. It is sure hard to deal with both physical and emotional pain but I should had known better and I should had kept myself under control. May be I will just keep to myself from now on, it is really just hard to think about the future when my mind tells me there is no future. I appreciate having met those who treated me well and sticked their necks out to defend me. Thank you for being true friends and being there for me. To everyone else, good luck with your lives and futures.

I recently lost a dear bipolar friend, who took her own life Christmas eve. She was very talented, hyperactive, very present, and hard to beat. She was a Director and I am the Sound Designer. We sat next to each other for hours/days at a row, producing commercials. We got along tremendeously well, because I liked her open hearted unfiltered ever honest stream of thoughts-without-giving-it-a-thought. Her personality was split by raging storm of thoughts everywhere all the time. Her laugh was overwhelming and so was everything about her personality. She was bipolar. I loved her. And in rage of negativeness she suffered almost daily, she killed herself around Christmas eve.

I say: we give Demise a break and try to help her now we know this about her, ok?

DemiseScythe: Stay a little longer… please?

Accept my apologies too Dem.
I just don't know what else to say.

I'm sorry.

Thanks.

Yours, Home.

From: WT-Fakawi
I recently lost a dear bipolar friend, who took her own life Christmas eve. She was very talented, hyperactive, very present, and hard to beat. She was a Director and I am the Sound Designer. We sat next to each other for hours/days at a row, producing commercials. We got along tremendeously well, because I liked her open hearted unfiltered ever honest stream of thoughts-without-giving-it-a-thought. Her personality was split by raging storm of thoughts everywhere all the time. Her laugh was overwhelming and so was everything about her personality. She was bipolar. I loved her. And in rage of negativeness she suffered almost daily, she killed herself around Christmas eve.

I am sorry for your loss, Wt-Fakawi…

holy fuck you guys need to calm down, I didn't think you all were capable of halfwit drama I see all over other boards for the past decade, unfathomable.. really

Soap opera shitt right here ;P

From: Markus
I don't really care about those include wars. I just don't want people to hate me too much for the wrong reasons.

I hate you Markus, you know why? Because I can't use Simba to fix my bike; it clearly must be your fault.

From: WT-Fakawi
I recently lost a dear bipolar friend, who took her own life Christmas eve. She was very talented, hyperactive, very present, and hard to beat. She was a Director and I am the Sound Designer. We sat next to each other for hours/days at a row, producing commercials. We got along tremendeously well, because I liked her open hearted unfiltered ever honest stream of thoughts-without-giving-it-a-thought. Her personality was split by raging storm of thoughts everywhere all the time. Her laugh was overwhelming and so was everything about her personality. She was bipolar. I loved her. And in rage of negativeness she suffered almost daily, she killed herself around Christmas eve.

I say: we give Demise a break and try to help her now we know this about her, ok?

DemiseScythe: Stay a little longer… please?

Then I guess you really have a good idea what DemiseScythe might be going through right now. On a side note, I'm deeply sorry for your loss of a dear friend; I too have lost a couple close friends, yet both from depression. It's not worth going into details here but man I know how deep it cuts, just the painful feeling of being powerless to change what has happened.

I surely agree with pretty much everyone else in the thread. DemiseScythe I do respect you for taking different routes when it comes to your scripting techniques. I put up with similar putdowns when we had the old reflection library. Even applying for membership I got got some negative feedback simply for using reflection for walking and such. I always thought; "We have these great tools at our fingertips to make scripting easier and more efficient, why should we be downgraded for utilizing them?". Doesn't make much sense does it? Same deal here with DTMs, if they work for you then who are we to tell you you can't use them or they're incorrect?

Nobody hates you, I can promise you this. You shouldn't for one moment think this. You're among friends, you always have been. So I'm personally hoping you reconsider and stick around, I'd sure like to see how far you can go with your DTM-style scripting.

For the record there is one guy on Villavu I don't like, at all. Anyone remember Fruit Bat? Oh yeah and Grats, he's just plain noob, absolutely froob, a real nub.

I have never hated you DemiseScythe. I think I have only hated scammers online. I really hope you stay :)
Ah and I hate it when you release a free script and then people start bashing it because they don't know how to set up.

I haven't really Spoke to DemiseScythe the only time was when I asked about DTM walking and she was very helpful :)
Mat

Sounds good guys, were making progress :).

Wow a whole thread made for one person loooks like alot of people care.

From: SubiN
Wow a whole thread made for one person loooks like alot of people care.

We would do the same for you ;).

From: Markus

And will you accept my apologies and forgive me for what I've done?

Awww <3 Luff yhew :')
and Demise, this community has a place for everyone